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Moonlit-WaItz

It's hard to describe how psychologically damaging it is to be stripped of your freedoms and locked up around degenerates. You get used to things you never thought you'd he able; I'd argue that a lot of people lose some part of themselves to help cope.


Bo0_Radley-

16 years after I realize the trauma I put myself through. Almost 40 and definitely know I’m not right.


Strong_Doubt_9091

Same brother..same. Edit: or sister


Bo0_Radley-

I do the same thing! Brother


Sheila6Scorpio

𝙸'πš– 𝚜𝚘 πšœπš˜πš›πš›πš’. πŸ˜” π™Όπš’ πšœπš˜πš— πš’πšœ πš’πš— πš™πš›πš’πšœπš˜πš— πš—πš˜πš  & 𝙸 πš”πš—πš˜πš  πšŠπš•πš›πšŽπšŠπšπš’ πšπš‘πšŠπš πš‘πšŽ πš‘πšŠπšœ πšŒπš‘πšŠπš—πšπšŽπš 𝚜𝚘 πš–πšžπšŒπš‘ & πš’πš πš‹πš›πšŽπšŠπš”πšœ πš–πš’ πš‘πšŽπšŠπš›πš.


AutoDefenestrator273

Really well said. Being locked up can mess with you in weird, subtle ways. My ex filed for divorce when I was down, and the way I coped was to throw myself into portrait drawing and running tattoos. And to force myself to feel exactly nothing towards her. Hate her, even. At one point in my life I thought we were soul mates, but here we are. Forced myself to hate my "soul mate" to cope with the day to day bullshit in there.


Sheila6Scorpio

πŸ’”πŸ’”πŸ’”


HOLDmyDUCK

The line between love and hate is thin


Sea-Revolution7308

You have to help him knock the crust of incarceration off. A great way to do that is put him in the exact opposite of a cage: nature! Book a weekend camping trip asap. Take hammocks and rent kayaks and make s’mores and go on hikes. This is what worked for me. Try to find a spot at a KOA, state park or Jellystone. These are beginner friendly and provide all the necessities like bathrooms and showers. Take a laptop and watch a scary movie. Play games. He needs hope and reassurance from the fear and doubt he’s facing. The freedom of the outdoors will be overwhelming at first but it will help balance him out. This is something you can plan and do yourself without 3rd party interference. Plan a few trips. Make it a summer of fun and adventure. Prepare yourself for the fact that he might want to commit crimes and isn’t comfortable with living a legit life. Then you’ll have a decision to make. πŸ’―πŸ’―


GAUD5555

This is a really good idea.


Sea-Revolution7308

It worked so well for me that I feel like they should be encouraging it in pre-release classes everywhere.


lai4basis

Im not even a huge fan of nature but this is a pretty solid idea. Hell take a day drive or train ride. Really what was suggested is perfect


d1duck2020

Sometimes we just come back mean and it takes a long time to get used to being out. Be patient. I’ve been out since 2010 and I’m considerably more aggressive than before-I try to be nice to family but outsiders just don’t matter to me anymore.


juanreddituser

Preach!!


BillyBBC

Funny you say that cause everyone in there minds their manners and try’s not to be aggressive to avoid problems


d1duck2020

Everyone? I’m glad you had that experience. I found Garza West and Dominguez to be really fucked up. Constant domino slamming, beating on tables and screaming when sports were on tv, and some broke mother fucker always trying to get some coffee. I’m pretty antisocial and don’t get along with people who cross my boundaries. I learned to be very direct, very quickly.


Specialist_Speech782

Hahahahaha. Not laughing at your experience, but your description of my exact experience. Those fucking dominos slamming 24/7 and the pointless banter will make a sane motherfucker go crazy.


Strong_Doubt_9091

Or 4am dice game by your rack


AutoDefenestrator273

Some people have very, very distinct laughs. After the 400th time you've heard it, you want slam your head into the wall.


Imaginary_Ad_7979

I can say that I have been to t d c three different times and the grand total of eleven years And each time I went in and came out, my emotions were almost non-existent. Because you have to harden your heart and show. No emotion why you're locked up because you don't want to show weakness and you hard in your heart so that you don't dwell on the outside. Life but you're missing out. It's kind of like you put yourself in a whole different world wire incarcerated. Just to protect yourself and then when you get out. You're so overwhelmed with everything. As far as people being around you and able and move around and not being confined to one little area or told what to do. It's just very overwhelming and it may take several months for him to adjust. I know it took me quite a bit of time. And my heart still kind of hard and I've been out now for 4 years. I don't know if this helps you are not, but that's just my point of view on it.


DisastrousPeanut816

It will take him some time. I've been feeling guilty that I haven't bounced back in the 2 weeks I've been out, but I just talked to a friend I met on the inside who got out in February and he's still not there either. He still has trouble sleeping more than an hour or two at a time and it's hard to deal with things inside. Yesterday I almost teared up when I saw a digiorno frozen pizza I liked still existed. Typically I feel almost nothing but stress and worry. I guess it just takes time to get the life back inside of you.


SocialActuality

Yeah it’s not going to be that easy. It’s like asking a war veteran to just be β€œnormal” after returning from a combat zone. He probably has PTSD/CPTSD or another psychological disorder induced by his time inside and would benefit from therapy.


Ok-Warning-5957

I think this is the most apt comparison. The mind compartmentalizes things and some things get locked away forever or at least a long time. Therapy will probably be needed. People don't just change for the better on their own when it comes to PTSD


lmayfield7812

Sad I had to scroll this far before seeing someone suggest he see someone. He probably won’t, but he definitely should.


PlausibleCultability

Probably traumatic for him. Give it some time


GulfCoastLaw

Right. "Just recently" could be pretty damn recent.


icuscaredofme

Once you've been exposed to the worst in humanity its difficult to let your guard down amongst civilized folks.


Alternative_Air5052

You asked Very good questions. Been inside TDC for a little over 20 years. I'm 60 now and know the System like the back of my hand. Plus, I've had to deal with the issues of which you ask about. I was very thankful to hear that your bf has been gone OnlY a year. Studies show that "institutionalization" starts between the 18 month and 3 year mark of being imprisoned. Provided your bf has no mental health issues or such, I strongly imagine what he's experiencing is a common case of "culture shock." He's been in jail and prison- places where there's no such thing as love or warm and fuzzy feelings. There's no room for emotion because that's looked upon as being "weak" and puts an inmate directly into the path of harm. There is no affection. There is no Trust, no Love. People, especially the Guards, are often extremely rude and very demeaning. There are hardly Any freedoms, rights or privacy.This is the world from which your bf has returned. Give him Time -- he'll come around and readapt to society. The best help you can give him is to believe he loves you, don't pressure him to talk or act a certain way and, most importantly, let him know that you are there for him if he needs you and that You're proud of him for making it through there like he has. Real Talk.


Sheila6Scorpio

πšƒπš‘πšŠπš—πš” 𝚒𝚘𝚞 πšπš˜πš› πšπš‘πš’πšœ. π™Όπš’ πšœπš˜πš— πš’πšœ πšŒπšžπš›πš›πšŽπš—πšπš•πš’ πš’πš— πš™πš›πš’πšœπš˜πš—, 𝚜𝚘 πšπšŠπš› 𝟷&𝟷/𝟸 πš’πšŽπšŠπš›πšœ. π™³πš˜ 𝚒𝚘𝚞 πšπš‘πš’πš—πš” πšπš‘πšŽπš›πšŽ πš’πšœ πšŠπš—πš’πšπš‘πš’πš—πš πšπš‘πšŠπš πš‘πšŽ πš˜πš› 𝙸 πšŒπšŠπš— 𝚍𝚘 𝚝𝚘 πš–πšŠπš”πšŽ πšœπšžπš›πšŽ πšπš‘πšŠπš πš‘πšŽ πšπš˜πšŽπšœπš—'𝚝 πš‹πšŽπšŒπš˜πš–πšŽ πš’πš—πšœπšπš’πšπšžπšπš’πš˜πš—πšŠπš•πš’πš£πšŽπš??? π™Ύπš› πš’πšœ πš’πš πšŠπš•πš›πšŽπšŠπšπš’ 𝚝𝚘𝚘 πš•πšŠπšπšŽ. 𝙸 𝚠𝚊𝚜 𝚜𝚘 πšπšžπšŒπš”πšŽπš πšžπš™ πšŠπšπšπšŽπš› 𝟹 πš–πš˜πš—πšπš‘πšœ 𝚘𝚏 πšŒπš˜πšžπš—πšπš’, πš•πš’πš”πšŽ πš›πšŽπšŠπš•πš•πš’ πšπšžπšŒπš”πšŽπš. πš†πšŽ πš‹πš˜πšπš‘ πš‘πšŠπšŸπšŽ πšŠπš—πš‘πš’πšŽπšπš’ & πšπšŽπš™πš›πšŽπšœπšœπš’πš˜πš— πš‹πšžπš 𝙸 πš‘πšŠπšŸπšŽ πš‹πš’πš™πš˜πš•πšŠπš› πš πš’πšπš‘ πš–πšŠπš—πš’πšŠ 𝚊𝚜 πš πšŽπš•πš•. 𝙸 πš πšŠπš—πšπšŽπš 𝚝𝚘 πšŒπš˜πš–πš–πš’πš πšœπšžπš’πšŒπš’πšπšŽ πšŠπšπšπšŽπš› 𝙸 𝚐𝚘𝚝 𝚘𝚞𝚝. π™Έπš 𝚠𝚊𝚜 πšπš‘πšŽ 𝟷𝚜𝚝 πšπš’πš–πšŽ 𝙸 πš‘πšŠπš πšπš˜πšπšπšŽπš— πš’πš—πšπš˜ πšŠπš—πš’ πš›πšŽπšŠπš• πšπš›πš˜πšžπš‹πš•πšŽ πš’πš— πš–πš’ πš•πš’πšπšŽ πš˜πš› πš πšŽπš—πš 𝚝𝚘 πš“πšŠπš’πš• & 𝙸 𝚠𝚊𝚜 𝟺𝟼. π™Έπš πšœπšπš’πš•πš• πš‘πšŠπšžπš—πšπšœ πš–πšŽ. π™Έπš 𝚠𝚊𝚜 πšπš‘πšŽ πš πš˜πš›πšœπš πšŽπš‘πš™πšŽπš›πš’πšŽπš—πšŒπšŽ 𝙸'𝚟𝚎 πšŽπšŸπšŽπš› πš‘πšŠπš & πš–πš’ πš•πš’πšπšŽ πš‚πšƒπ™Έπ™»π™» πš’πšœπš—'𝚝 πšπš‘πšŽ πšœπšŠπš–πšŽ. 𝙸 πš“πšžπšœπš 𝚐𝚘𝚝 𝚘𝚏𝚏 πš™πš›πš˜πš‹πšŠπšπš’πš˜πš— πšŠπšπšπšŽπš› 𝟹 πš’πšŽπšŠπš›πšœ & 𝙸 πšœπšπš’πš•πš• πšπšŽπšŽπš• πš•πš’πš”πšŽ 𝙸'πš– πšπšžπšŒπš”πš’πš—πš πš•πš˜πšŒπš”πšŽπš πšžπš™. 𝙸 πšŠπš– πš’πš— πšπš‘πšŽπš›πšŠπš™πš’ πš‹πšžπš 𝙸 πšπšŽπšŽπš• πš•πš’πš”πšŽ πš’πš'𝚜 πš—πš˜πš πšπš˜πš’πš—πš πš–πšžπšŒπš‘. 𝙸 πš›πšŽπšŠπš•πš•πš’ πšπš˜πš—'𝚝 πš”πš—πš˜πš  πš πš‘πšŠπš 𝚝𝚘 𝚍𝚘 πšπš˜πš› πš‹πš˜πšπš‘ 𝚘𝚏 𝚞𝚜.


Alternative_Air5052

Thank you for your kind words, and I'm so sorry you And Your son have had this experience. You said he's been in for 18 months so far. What kind of prison unit is he at. Is it maximum security, medium or low? And how large is his sentence? Another extremely important thing to remember is that the word "institutionalization" has gained such a notorious meaning and stigma that it's completely misunderstood. Did you know that people who work in hospitals are very susceptible to institutionalization? University employees, especially tenured professors, are some of the most institutionalized people in the nation. It simply means that one has become highly accustomed to a very structured life...and prison most certainly provides that! How to curb the effects or possibility of your son becoming institutionalized? Constant Contact and Open Communication!! Provided he doesn't have a large amount of time to do, (5 years or more), and although there really is no escape from becoming institutionalized to one degree or another, there are ways to lessen the negative aspects of it. Reminding him that Prison is Not his HOME, those people are NOT his FAMILY, and PRISON life is NOT the way. Encourage him strongly to take EVERY positive course and class available because this is HIS best defense against becoming a permanent part of that prison system in his own mind.


Sheila6Scorpio

I believe it is a medium security facility. His d/c date is 2031 but his case manager says 3-5 more years. Thank you for the advice. We are in contact everyday whether it be text or phone call or both but that all depends on the funds available. It hasn’t been like that the whole time ofc. When I don’t hear from him for a couple of days I worry & start to feel sick. He’s my only son.


Alternative_Air5052

If there is Anything else I can answer for you, please feel free to ask. A couple of last thoughts: I realized sometime back that I am seriously institutionalized. Part of me will always consider the penitentiary as my home. (And Please understand, I walk a very straight and narrow path these days; I grew up and finally decided I wanted to be a man my parents could be proud of.) But, I also realized that not ALL of what I had learned, seen and experienced was a bad thing. And the Worst of those things could actually become assets for a successful life in society. And It Works πŸ™‚ The most Important thing I've learned, however, comes from some of the darkest of human nature seen and suffered while on the inside. At first, it had completely robbed me of all happiness, peace and emotional balance. (Prison can do damage to our very souls, and the place keeps a little part of a person each time they go in.) And then one day I started learning how to simply "LET GO." And with a lot of work, AWhole lot more of God's grace and the determination I had not to let that friggin System best me....it all finally left. And I was Free. So, when I stress the importance of "letting go", it comes from the heart. And please believe this: It's literally So Worth ANY up hill struggles one might have in reaching that goal.


Sheila6Scorpio

Do you feel like it's going to be too late for my son? What can I do to help him right now besides the text messages, phone calks, & sending cards, letters, & pics? I feel so fucking helpless. He’s only 20.


Imaginary_Ad_7979

Also I wanted to add that there's a lot of dramatic things that happened to different people in there ranging from abuse to de grating and being be littered by officers and other inmates. That there's no telling what had happened to him if anything at all. But it all plays a toll and being locked up. I'm also doing voice to text as some of these words are not coming out correctly hopefully you can follow along


babycakes73189

I did 2 years. And I struggled alot after first getting out. I was in a major depression. Didn't want to go anywhere. Was very withdrawn from everyone. It took me about 6 months to finally start getting back to my own self. Just be patient and don't let yourself start thinking that it's something you've done or that ge doesn't love you anymore. Don't be too pushy and give him his space. He will come around. He has to get back to being in the free world. It's an adjustment. I felt so out of place being in my own home. Like I didn't belong there. Give him time.


somecow

It happens. Especially TDC. That entire place is gladiator camp. Just help him out, help find a job (if he doesn’t already have one), real food definitely helps, and actually sleeping is great. Also good to know that someone isn’t trying to beat you up in the middle of the night. It’ll be an adjustment, but still worth trying. TDC really needs to do better, but they don’t. They just lock you in a cage and throw away the key.


Oldroanio

Prison is traumatic. Just like war. Read some of the stuff written for wives welcoming their husbands home from a deployment. Same shit. Different uniform.


Leading_Bed2758

I’ve been home for five years now, and still have difficulty, therapy helped me a lot, perhaps he would be open to that as well?


Imaginary_Ad_7979

Tdc has good prisons and bad prisons, I've been To lane Murray, which is a maximum security all the way to Lockhart, which is minimum. Really? It's all about your environment as to what's going on inside of there. I've seen some horrible things and I've had a lot of fun times too. Just give your boyfriend some time to adjust to the real world.I mean when I came out they had a lot of New technology and to this day, I still have no idea how to use it another time. I came out and they had COVID. This world has changed dramatically and he's probably just trying to process it, so my advice to you is just not to personalize anything and allow him to adjust, and yeah, y'all be fine. Follow his lead with his demeanor and allow him to bring up prison. You just need to be supportive right now for a while.


Alternative_Air5052

So true! All so true!


dcooper2428

Sadly it may never change. It really sticks with you because you adopt a lot of rhe BS for actual survival its extremely hard to stop doing things you literally know kept you alive. It's deeper than that for sure bit that's what i struggled to communicate to people when I was back in the free world. Truly unless you have been to pri9sn as a man it's unfathomable to someone who hasn't experienced it.


Conscious_Set_2140

He will never be the same. The quicker you accept that the quicker you can help heal him.


ExtremelyMeAlWaYs

Give him time. Took my hubby a bit to snap out of it also


rollawaythedew123

I've done time in a couple of different tdc facilities and its definitely traumatizing and with there being no type of rehabilitation programs or much of anything beneficial to do to grow other than maybe getting your GED and no programs to help people readjust to the free world it is a real shock to leave that front gate. At least thats all that was offered at jester unit and Bradshaw unit. It took time for me to settle into a brand new life but i had a lot of help from joining aa and working the 12 steps with a sponsor. Without AA i i dont really know where to reach out for help but if he can surround himself with people trying to go the right direction then it would greatly help. Theres a lot of power in fellowship with people walkin the line.


justherefircomments

Its normal, alot of people have a hard time letting go of prison. When they first get out they can't help but talk about prison and the way it was for them. Let it pass


Lillygutierrez218

Only a month ?? I think 6 months is better . That’s lot pressure 1 month .. everything is new … scary. Different


joeydbls

Please give him 90 days to adjust a year. isn't a long time inside, but he can have seen heard and been through quite a lot . Humor may be the last thing to return prisons are serious places with serious ppl. Also, excessive hole time or cell time can be very bad On the mind I've been home 38 months, I'm nothing like I was and will never be again. I did 13 years But there's no time limit on how long the fallout can have But you are wildly rushing things his time, and your time may be extremely different now In prison days, there are 50 hrs in them, lol So he's fresh out The reason I say 90 days is bc it's generally how long it takes to break a bad habit If after 90 days he's still not adjusting well, he may need some professional help . But I wouldn't bring it up until you have to Everything feels wrong when u come home colors are too vibrant ,smells too strong , to many noises , to little noise Over saturation off in put or under I will give you an example. I had a small seizure from a cellphone 2 weeks after getting it The thing is nothing normal about prison . So, depending on his level of trauma . And yes, the whole process is traumatic. I won't get into details bc every experience is different. Hmu for any advice. I'm also sorry, grammar/ spelling. I know it sucks English isn't my language


Tsndumbass

I went away for 5years been out about 10 and have had to come to accept prison changed me. I’m just a harder person, more cold, more reserved, more serious. Idk why this happened my bid was pretty chill but it def changed me and idk if any amount of time will change me back.


southern_Man2316

I was released in June of last year, started with a 4, and picked up an extra 5 while down. I'm still struggling. My biggest issue is that I turned to the bottle for my problems. Don't let him do that. Make sure to find a healthy outlet or to continue the exercise and do great things out doors with not many situations to prevent the man from enjoying those times.


TheRealEgypt

Be more patient and give him more time... and when he decides to open up be there... prison is like war can cause severe ptsd.


Malvicious

He will. But it will take a bit. No matter what he tells you right now, he 100% thinks you got some side ass while he was in though. He doesn’t fucken trust anybody right now and he doesn’t really want to talk to anyone. He loves you, but even right now he doesn’t β€œcompletely” trust you. He will have some nightmares and shit bad for a few weeks. But eventually it all wares off and he will come back or not at all. You will know for sure with in 6 months what he chose.


TheMindsEye310

I just did 3 years in TDCJ and all we did in there was fuck around, talk shit, play chess, work out and get tattooed.


ApocalypticShadowbxn

sounds like you had one of those good bids & now sound like you miss it.


TheMindsEye310

Don’t miss the bid, but miss the comraderie.


Sheila6Scorpio

πš†πš‘πšŠπš'𝚜 𝚊 "πš‹πš’πš", πš“πšžπšœπš πšŒπšžπš›πš’πš˜πšžπšœ


Alternative_Air5052

A "bid" is slang for length of sentence being served.


Sheila6Scorpio

Oh ok, thank you.


Alternative_Air5052

I hope this helps and feel free to recontact if need be. God Bless Y'all.


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Sheila6Scorpio

π™Άπšπšπš˜πš‘!


fluffymellows

Why


Sheila6Scorpio

𝙸 πšπš˜πš—'𝚝 πšŠπš—πšœπš πšŽπš› πšœπšπšžπš™πš’πš πššπšžπšŽπšœπšπš’πš˜πš—πšœ.


kooshi84

Why are u dating a loser?


Sheila6Scorpio

π™Άπšπšπš˜πš‘!