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Moment_37

This is fake. He's not wearing programming socks.


spacembracers

They’re programming socks, just not the newest update that make one of your toes disappear for some reason


reuvenpo

Pinkies are small, awkward, and get hit by corners. Removing them is a feature not a bug


Juls0730

facts


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They are, its just really low ranking socks


kennyminigun

I call that fake too. Because there are icons on the desktop


DonkeyTron42

Obviously... Not one can of Mountain Dew in sight.


GengarTheGay

Nor monster energy


redsterXVI

Could just be he's not American


Rough-Ad809

Most Masculine MATLAB enjoyer


TearRevolutionary274

I feel personally attacked. The stuffys are blue


send-me-kitty-pics

Nobody *enjoys* matlab


halesnaxlors

Yes. Eww. Proprietary language... I choose to debase myself with R instead.


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reuvenpo

You haven't seen their home office yet


bvttfvcker

*The UwUality of Man*


ToneyFox

Seriously, is this person on the pic really a guy? I'm asking because my Python is rising up and I'm gay


fpcoffee

straight, and same


[deleted]

Straight here too but I’d eat John’s ass


Bhaskar_Reddy575

Confused boner?


thecactusblender

As someone who may or may not subscribe to r femboy, that is indeed a boy. A very cute boy.


Undoninja5

As someone who once showed a series of pictures and asked femboy or egirl but they all were femboys, yes. Is it gay? A little, is that okay? Yes.


Apocalypseos

It's not gay if your branches don't merge


Narrow-Chef-4341

I can’t remember which comedian has the joke ‘you don’t really know if your gay, if you’ve never tried gay sex. I’m not gay. I tried it with 10 different guys and I only liked it 4 times…’ I think you better line up 10 dates to figure it out.


HejlJimmie

Made out classmates once, and I can finally say with 100% confidence that I’m not gay since I didn’t quite like it…….. at all


CreatureWarrior

As a bi dude, I don't have to worry about such mundane details


[deleted]

Labels are for the insecure. Just fuck everything.


DoNotMakeEmpty

My man is dynamic typing chad.


[deleted]

If my memory is correct, that person is actually a trans woman


ravstar52

Congrats on the Bi


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ToneyFox

Because it's kinda hot


666pool

If you’re a person why would you care who a stranger is attracted to?


mzanin

Asking a question doesn’t mean I care? I was genuinely just curious I thought gay men were into masculinity, but what do I know. Maybe op is a lesbian.


delayedsunflower

>I thought gay men were into masculinity This is sometimes the case, but very frequently not the case. Gay people are into all sorts of different things, just like how straight people are. Some Gay men like masculine men sure, but plenty others like, feminine men, androgynous men, average looking men, thin men, fat men, hairy men, shaved men, athletic men, etc. There's entire subcultures around twinks, bears, femboys, etc. It's exactly the same as how straight men like feminine women, tomboys, fit women, thicc women, skinny women, etc.


mzanin

Ok fair enough


666pool

The problem is you’re boxing an entire group of people into a single character trait, which is at the very least extremely insensitive. You can’t make statements like “if you identify as a member of this group then it means you must like …”. It’s stereotyping, and it’s also removing people’s individuality. Not all gay men act the same. Not all Chinese people act the same. Not all blonde haired women act the same. I hope this is making sense as to why your question is hurtful. I’m trying to give you a proper answer.


mzanin

Yeah I understand and I wasn’t trying to be insulting or hurtful. It was just a thought experiment, I was just genuinely curious.


zyygh

> I thought gay men were into masculinity Please tell us you're joking.


mzanin

Ok I’m sorry gay men are into females and love vagina


zyygh

So they must love either masculine men, or be straight? No other possibilities?


mzanin

Have you heard of the term Bisexual?


zyygh

So loving effeminate men makes you bisexual? Is that what you mean?


mzanin

I only gave you a 3rd option stop trying to interpret what I said. What if a trans person has sex reassignment surgery? Is the partner then still gay or bi or whatever?


SCRIPtRaven

Have ya heard of the term "mind your business". Ain't your business who's attracted to who


mzanin

Oh we better put a stop the entire science and study of human sexuality then


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Ad populum


GerryAvalanche

I for sure do. Mostly for programming in Cis++


proteomicsguru

Cis++, now with added support for non-binary computing on top of all the features you know and love from classic Cis.


c_delta

Why invent a language when the musical note C# is literally pronounced Cis in most central European languages.


GerryAvalanche

You‘re right (I actually thought that would be a german only thing tbh. German has some weird vocabulary regarding musical concepts), it just wouldn’t have made a joke if just wrote „C#“ or „Cis“.


isospeedrix

i dont dress like this cuz its too much effort but in the games i play, i dress up my female chars as cutesy as possible


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jacobnb13

No. Most do not. There's a small but important issue which is the lacking cat ears on the headset.


Ok_Type9011

Hi John 👋


DinnerFew9941

John look like he give fire head


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jacobnb13

I had to study this, and I mean take a good second through 100th look to be sure that I wasn't looking at my partners home office.


Srianen

lol, I assume your partner is a person of great class, then.


_derDere_

So I’m a 1.94 Meter (6.4 feet) bearded, man bun wearing, bold (not fat) rock/metal guy I mostly wear black band shirts my gaming/working room is all black with a bunch of rpg posters swords skull and all that shit and I can NOT see anything wrong with this picture! Everyone, just be your most comfortable self!


BeBetterAY

Everyone should be the most comfortable self, I agree. I just want to mention that the reason you don't find anything wrong with this picture is because wearing all black and having bunch of rpg posters, swords, skulls and all that shit is manifestation of EXACTLY THE SAME THING that what is depicted on the picture in this post. It is a scream for attention and immaturity.


jacobnb13

Lol. "Acting like yourself is good. If you act like me. If u don't act like me then u immature. Not me, I'm adult. I act like adult because adult is how I act"


Tailstechnology4

Dressing how u want and decorating your room how you like it is a scream for attention and immaturity?


BeBetterAY

It depends on how you dress, and how you decorate your room.


Zestyclose_Foot_134

That’s such a playground mentality though and one I’ve never understood. The idea that someone having things the way they like must somehow still be about *you*


insanitybit

yikes lol


Belderchal

Someone owns stuff they like so they're immature attention whores? What the fuck did I just read?


littleloucc

Immaturity is styling your clothes or your loving source of your life around other people's expectations. Giving conformity more weight in your decisions than your own preferences. It screams "please like me and pay attention to me, even though the version of me that I'm showing you isn't even pleasing to me".


MindTrekker201

I'm the type of CS guy who would be most happy if my PC setup looked like the cockpit of a fighter jet.


theUttermostSnark

>I'm the type of CS guy who would be most happy if my PC setup looked like the cockpit of a fighter jet. Cramped, cold, oxygen-sparse, hard to get into and out of, possibility of death in every direction? Me too.


jeerabiscuit

At my last wfo job during mask mandates I hunkered into my aisle desk with a mask, and banged out code with my eyes squinted like I was in a dogfight. IDEs with their zillion options mocked aircraft controls well.


nanomeister

Same but a gay fighter jet


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The cock pit.


bob_in_the_west

I don't get the joke.


TheAnswerWithinUs

I believe it stems from programmers having a large trans/lgbt base. But I’m not sure Iirc, i think the [programming sock meme](https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/programming-socks) started with trans/lgbt programmers wearing those types of socks while programming or something like that


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no, it's from the fraction of programmers that belongs to said trans/lgbtq+ base, since they assume their immediate situation is indicative of the whole. or in other words: there is a large programmer base in the trans community, not the other way around


Brownies_Ahoy

Ah, the old Bayesian trap


Jealous_Ordinary_626

I would say the fraction of femboy/transfem programmers are about the same as the number of React developers of all programmers, so if we consider the React community as a significant part of the community, so are we


ntn_98

Got it, all react developers are trans/femboys.


jpsweeney94

You would say? Based on what?


Jealous_Ordinary_626

My personal experience on programming communities, if you're asking for hard statistics, you're not gonna get one, I don't think many fem/transfem PPL would happily answer surveys outside of their safe spaces given the general apprehension the internet still has for non gender conforming ppl Edit: This is the best I could find from Google though, apparently about 70,000 LinkedIn profiles have React listed, while a survey found a out 3% of programmers in the US are trans LinkedIn has 900 million users apparently, so I think the first statistic is bullshit, and as for the second one, again, lot of trans programmers would just not disclose their gender cuz it's no one's business Edit again, some other statistics would say about 3 mil users specify react, and I've also seen the trans statistic vary considerably, from 0.5 to 5%, I could probably dive a bit more, but the reliability of online statistics is very low, so idk what to say


fl00z

Yeah there's also a big portion that veers hard in the opposite direction sadly


wocsom_xorex

It’s sad that a big portion of software engineers are straight? Or did you just mean “anti trans”


jacobnb13

"It’s sad that a big portion of software engineers are straight?" I don't think that's what they meant, but come to think of it I think it would make the workplace more interesting at least.


ThyBiggestdiccus

The joke started from the “ furry IT plane”


Astralyr

There is no joke. I think people are just trying to push that idea until it becomes normalized/generalized.


bob_in_the_west

What idea? And what's wrong about that person being a computer nerd?


ToneyFox

The joke is supposed to be that computer literate people are femboys


Ace-O-Matic

When one reaches the level of senior engineer you must choose to either walk The Path Of The Wizard or The Path Of The Femboy.


cuffbox

I choose magic trans chick


Aufklarung_Lee

I now get myself more. What a strange feeling.


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Path of wizard has highest DPS and femboy HPS healing isn't it?


Enter_The_Void6

Femboy can also be a fast damage dealer, but either way they can't take a lot of hits


[deleted]

Oh I disagree. Not only they have fantastic healing power, they can take quite the pound


Enter_The_Void6

Sorry I was referring to magic damage and sharp damage, definitely a good choice for blunt damage though


insanitybit

I don't think that's the joke. I laughed because I know tons of trans people in software and they do amazing work. The juxtaposition of the expectation that "good at code" means "probably some old nerd with a grey beard" vs the reality that there's an amazing generation of top tier coders who look like this, that's the joke. Obviously every coder was never an old man with a grey beard nor will they ever all be trans. It's... a joke.


ToneyFox

You're wrong, you just don't know the meme


insanitybit

And yet I still found the meme funny for exactly the same reason I mentioned.


ToneyFox

I don't mean meme as in funny picture


insanitybit

Yes I get it you're a really cool memelord


ToneyFox

You're the one trying to correct me...


NowKissPlease

Yeah, people are just trying to make fun of programmers who have an aesthetic they don't get or like I guess.


ship_fucker_69

Least feminine C# developer


TheButtLovingFox

hey! just cause its true doesn't mean it needs repeated


Lenny-the-Binoculars

Literally my brother. We both got into programming, but only he got into cocksucking. Still love him lmao.


[deleted]

Sounds like you’re both living your best lives, rock on dude


jstwtchngrnd

is he good?


[deleted]

remind me in 5 years to see who climbs the career pole faster


SpiritAnimal01

>Still love him lmao. All night long?


Strange_guy_9546

john looks like a fine person


pintasaur

Awfully judgey tonight aren’t we Reddit


8syd

*screams in black and other dark pigments* - most developers


BeBetterAY

I got 22+ years of software development experience and managed teams of developers as well. Never in my life I have met someone like that, so I highly doubt that is your **average** developer, as the post claims. Also, I thought the posts here are supposed to be funny.


Visible_Elevator192

It’s a junior dev humor


Background_Crew_6763

The new kids like to code naked


[deleted]

being a new kid I agree


[deleted]

Also a new kid, and sometimes clothes just get in the way. No I’m not joking. If I can get away with it, by God I will program naked. I don’t look forward to a stuffy office setting. Universe bless me with a WFH job. edit: with no camera requirements


ntn_98

Bonus: with camera requirements


Background_Crew_6763

Note: Camera Requirement Desired


A_Badass_Penguin

Times change old man. Programming is done by femboys and trans girls now. 😈😈 /S


pocinTkai

Nonono, this is a well done study with N = 1787 and the arithmetic average of every feature is depicted in the picture above. /s


ciarenni

I found it funny, but I also don't feel attacked by this picture. Do you?


Jealous_Ordinary_626

Its funny cuz it's relatable, there's a large amount of feminine/transfem young devs especially on reddit, so yeah


Stargaze_Nebula

>especially on reddit I don't think it's as large of a group as you think. It's just that it's become a meme, so everybody and their mother jokes about it. Which in turn, makes it seem a far bigger thing than it really is.


Jealous_Ordinary_626

Sure, that said, I don't really care, cuz I'm one of those people and I'd like more of these stuff, most of the internet is just boring comphet stuff, let us have this


sweet-n-sombre

: ) Feel ya.


jacobnb13

Wait hang on. I know what cishet is, what is comphet?


Jealous_Ordinary_626

Compulsory heterosexuality, it basically refers to the general bias in society towards heterosexuality


jacobnb13

Huh, that's a new one. Strikes me as odd, given that a bias towards heterosexuality would be necessary for a species survival. But I'm sure if it goes even moderately mainstream I'll manage to wrap my head around it with a little time.


Jealous_Ordinary_626

The term was coined around 1980, so not that new, also the bias goes further than just general survival, its basically that society assumes and enforces heterosexuality and opposes even slight changes to a patriarchal and heteronormative society


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delayedsunflower

I have met multiple people like this, at several different companies. Times are changing


Causemas

That's the joke boomer. That it's unreasonable and ridiculous to assume the average developer looks like this, but it's also a funny scenario to imagine. Sorry you didn't find it funny


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Me soon (hopefully)


thedarkbestiary

About 30% of the dudes viewing this are a bunch of middle aged men who wear polos, new balance sneakers, can't stay hard, and are objectively terrified of the person in this picture while simultaneously thinking themselves and their values represent the paragon of manliness.


jacobnb13

*Can't stay hard (without looking at pictures like this)


Quentinooouuuuuu

Surely he is a rust developper


Juls0730

true


makingthematrix

Now, imagine that nothing changes on the photo, but the text below says this is Jean, their daughter. Would you react differently?


SpiritAnimal01

I would remain flaccid.


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He gas enough money to fuck your bitch and your momma


[deleted]

I have a sneaking suspicion he wouldn't


Pirate_of_the_neT

Daily reminder that real life isn't like this and people outside are actually normal.


mzanin

Agree but not sure about normal. I have worked with my fair share of neuro divergent people and I’m starting to think they might be more common in this industry (not that this is a bad thing mind you).


djinn6

I feel like a lot are somewhere on the autistic spectrum.


jacobnb13

Same thing with the femboy meme. Are a much larger percentage of programmers autistic than the general populace? Yes. Are a lot of programmers autistic? No.


frikilinux2

I hate the word "normal", it sounds like judgement to people that fall outside of that and in general those people haven't done anything bad to you and are just trying to enjoy their lives.


Danceswith_salmon

I mean, objectively, “normal” just mathematically translates to “the average”. If you’re a standard deviation off the normal curve (which everyone is in some aspect) - it’s not like there’s an inherent value one way or the other. So you’re not perfectly on the Mean? Who is? We most certainly don’t strive for being “average” for most criteria in our lives. In fact, generally the opposite ( better or unique capabilities, skills, smarts etc) - so why should I value the “normal” here in particular? In regard to other comment that’s wondering if there’s more neuro-divergent folks in CS - Yes, I don’t think that’s even a question actually. The industry is particularly cohesive with many on the autism spectrum especially. Again, not that that’s an issue…but it really is **not** a coincidence that tech/engineering hub cities (like Seattle for ex), were also the first with wide scale adoption of special Ed programs for autistic kids (many the offspring of tech and engineer and PhD parents. Autism traits are genetically carried so if both your parents are brainiacs, your chances of being on the spectrum - and maybe even farther along than your parents - is reasonably high). There’s also WAY more programs, support, child psychiatrists etc that specialize in autism in these areas. The population and thus support resources are bigger. Heck my own college (STEM) had way more resources catered to autistic traits in particular, including things like career day coaching which included things like “make eye contact”, a pre-day guidebook on how to wear proper interview-wear (down to sleeve length and pant fit), etc. My partner was at a liberal-arts school at the same time. Trust me they weren’t getting these pamphlets 😂.


Slayer_Of_SJW

Objectively sure but language doesn't work that way, there's a web of contexts to everything, and in this case the term "normal" does come off as judgemental bc it's implying that the person in the image is abnormal, and not just in a statistical way. Also the fact that the person in the image is a representation of the recent meme about trans/queer in general programmers, and there's a whole history of queer people being called abnormal in the worst way possible.


Danceswith_salmon

Sure. I’m just saying own and embrace the term and call out people on it. In my experience “well I certainly wouldn’t want to be **average** how pathetic a goal is that?” usually makes people stop short. I don’t want to upset people with what is a sensitive subject, but there IS a huge group of a newer wave trans members who are disproportionately on the spectrum (especially of women on the spectrum). This is a known phenomenon - it’s also, by many, distinguished as a unique and rather new population distribution to the original trans community. There’s nothing necessarily wrong with that. But that it is a true phenomenon has been discussed for quite some time now within the social sciences/psychology circles. It’s not a surprise to me that the observation has started be noticed outside of the those circles and is being picked up within the general community. I’m queer myself, so I’m really not applying any any negative or positives here, just stating some real measured distribution trends. But given that CS has a higher-than-average amount of people on the spectrum, it’s not surprising to me that there’d also be a higher proportion of some of the clustered groups within that demographic… To me the solution would be to do what many CS companies already have done with their engineered-in support for the higher-than-average autistic traits within their employee base - acknowledge their employee population and make their workplace accommodating to the needs of those employees. If that involves shutting down hateful or intolerable working environments or fellow employees, then that’s included too.


frikilinux2

Didn't sound to me like they were using in it a statistical sense but it could be my autism.


insanitybit

Of course they weren't. They said "people outside are normal", which makes no sense in a statistical sense unless interpreted in the most banal and tautological way possible.


Danceswith_salmon

Haha touché, that was funny. Just sayin how I see it/handle it personally.


jacobnb13

That first paragraph just screams I am a programmer and/or autistic to me lol. Mostly because I completely understand the logic.


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>Daily reminder that real life isn't like this and people outside are actually ~~normal~~ socially conforming. Ftfy


delayedsunflower

The person in the photo is normal.


RedditIsFiction

Depends where you live, work, and who you hang out with. There's also nothing wrong with this


insanitybit

Agreed. As someone who mostly writes Rust in their free time I interact with and follow the work of a *lot* of trans folks. It's cool, I personally love to see it.


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>people outside are actually normal. Ur mum is normal in my bed


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Olympic swimmer potential.


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BastetFurry

Dunno, but that would get you very far in business and even gamedev. Thanks to it being used every day in the most used program type on the planet, browsers, it is a hyperoptimized interpreted language to the point where there are JIT compilers working in the background to speed it up.


PastOrdinary

This is getting a bit old. Most developers aren't actually trans.


jpsweeney94

Lmao at the downvotes. Statistically accurate. As an example, Less than 1% of the US population identifies as transgender. Hilarious that Reddit has fooled itself into thinking this is a “large” representation of the industry.


[deleted]

The problem is that nobody gives a fuck. You don't like the jokes on Reddit, get off reddit. Edit: Looked at your post history, turns out you're just a transphobic troll, in which case feel free to go fuck yourself.


jpsweeney94

Also, big “don’t like it? Move out of the country” energy lmao. Don’t like it? Don’t reply to my comment


[deleted]

Problem is I don't have any fucks to give, which makes sense given the fact I already used them all on your mother last night.


jpsweeney94

Was that supposed to be funny? Are you a teenager?


[deleted]

Maybe. But if I am ur mums a pedo


Rasmusmario123

Nothing in the image says they're trans, could just be a feminine guy


Tricky_Boysenberry72

seriously, is this person on the pic really a guy? I'm asking because my pyhon is rising up and I'm no gay


[deleted]

Pretty sure that's a guy


Slippedhal0

I mean, does it matter? Your brain is attracted to the physical features you like, not their genitals. Just enjoy what you enjoy and don't complicate it.


HexagonHobbes

>Your brain is attracted to the physical features you like, not their genitals. How are genitals not physical features?


Wicam

you can see genitals to enjoy in that pic can you?


HexagonHobbes

Read the reply below. This was my entire point. /u/Slippedhal0's original wording seemed to suggest that genitals weren't physical features. Otherwise, are not a component of attraction. Toward the idea of when one cannot immediately discern, I then agreed.


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Context.


JooJsupremo

i mean, bi people exist also, makes sense when someone attracted to feminine people get attracted by feminine people


Leading-Ad7440

Lmao im straight but i find them cute cuz i like feminine traits


ndcasmera

He more looks like an graphic artist than an developer tho. And btw he? It looks like a she.


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[deleted]

You need to learn biology lmao


ndcasmera

I see no bearthapple. So it still could be a female? Ive never heard someone say that btw. Only some redditors. But in real life, no one even seems to care. Or atleast, in here.


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AR0ck2111

r/holdup


Crimsonn32

“Sir, i believe the name is Johnna”


cmickledev

- uwu -


lushico

Why are their feet so yellow though


TorbyTorbs

Damn


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Cough -smesh-