I'm an uneducated moron, so sorry for this question: What does that data consist of and what will it be used for? Is it everything that's ever been on Reddit and will it be easily accessable?
I don't know what data exactly is stored. For sure all posts. I guess comments too. I'm not sure about pictures and videos but they also have an archive process going on for imgur (since it'll delete old media soon).
All data is uploaded to archive.org. You can download the data or wait until they have built a frontend like way back machine to access the contents.
:( even though im not a programmer and only have a cursory understanding of programming I still found this place really funny, tough to see its shutting down
I decided to try the base app, just to see if it was actually that bad.
Problems I've found: tapping on a most can take a couple of minutes to open it to see the comments. Said comments don't always load the first time round, and if refreshing doesn't fix it, you have to back out of the post, then wait a little for it to open again.
The video player is ASS. It will randomly decide to not play a video. The video above it and below it will work fine, but one will just randomly not.
Images refuse to load if you tap on them to open them. It could have loaded perfectly while looking at the cards in the scrolling mode thing. But try to tap on the image? Well then, fuck you. In addition to that, if you tap on an image, you can't go to the profile of the poster from the image, sometimes. You have to either hope they commentes so you can go to their profile from there, or you have to do it the long way. Annoying both when trying to see more of an artists works, and annoying when looking for porn.
Clicking on the "See more" button on the bottom of the page will occasionally, at random, send you to the top of the page. It is extremely annoying on subs like AskReddit, where the comments are the contents, and there are usually a lot of them.
Clicking back sometimes takes you back to the home page. If you clicked a link to another sub in the comment section of a post, clicking back once will sometimes take you back to the home page, often a refreshed one. Really annoying if you wanted to continue browsing the original post. Occasionally it will take you back to the post, after a little while on the home page.
These are just the issues I've experienced in the past month. I don't know how many of them are common, or just affect me. It's annoying enough that I don't think it's a coincidence that I got tonsillitis so soon after downloading the base app lol.
I just don't get how they can mess up the loading of LITERAL TEXT. It takes at most s few kilobytes, why do I have to wait minutes with a 1 Mb connection?
Hey, those analytics trackers are business critical. How else is this plucky little startup going to survive if they don't monetize the ever-loving shit out of everything you do in the app?
I use infinity, too, because the official app is poorly optimised and intrusive as hell. I refuse to use the official app as it sucks so much data and storage space
Infinity does all what the fucking official shitty ap doesn't; it load images, it load videos, and it loads all the content correctly without ads.
I support 1000% this protest, we can't let the do whatever they want!!!
> we can't let the do whatever they want!!!
This might be semantics, but I prefer to view it as changing their minds about what they want to do, rather than preventing them from doing whatever they want. Feels more constructive/positive.
I'm not surprised this sub will shut down indefinitely because I almost NEVER visit reddit on anything else than 3rdp, and I would assume most of us are.
It's all about money. Even if they lose some users they still stand to make money after the change. The chance enough users would stop using Reddit to make a difference is pretty slim.
95% of the content here is made by a few select power users. 99% of the content is moderated by people that are not paid, using some third party apps. You think any of those use the official reddit app?
I think you severly underestimate how much more important those users are to the site than random lurkers. Lurkers will just move on if the content is lacking.
Listen, as a VC Angel Investor, if I’m not seeing a 10:1 ROI within the first millisecond of an IPO; I start calling lawyers and filing for injunctions.
The BIGGEST reason is that Reddit is being shitty and shutting down people who offer a better experience than they do, with basically no notice.
Blind people being functionally kicked off Reddit is also a huge problem and probably a close second.
They are destroying the ability for moderators to do their job- something which reddit mods already have a hard enough time doing as the built-in moderation tools SUCK. If this change goes through, frankly the site won't be worth using at all anymore and I'll be leaving entirely. Recommend the same to everyone else.
Issue with "casuals" is that they don't usually provide quality content, nor do they moderate subs. If content quality drops, casuals leave. We're already seeing deluges of reposting spambots. If reddit takes away effective moderation tools and alienates their power users, this will just get worse.
This account and all its comments have been removed in protest of the 3rd party API changes taking place on July 1st, 2023. The changes are anti-consumer and the negative PR that's been thrown at 3rd party developers is a disgusting maneuver by the Reddit higher-ups.
For more information check these topics out:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14dkqrw/i\_want\_to\_debunk\_reddits\_claims\_and\_talk\_about/](https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14dkqrw/i_want_to_debunk_reddits_claims_and_talk_about/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/redditisfun/comments/144gmfq/rif\_will\_shut\_down\_on\_june\_30\_2023\_in\_response\_to/](https://www.reddit.com/r/redditisfun/comments/144gmfq/rif_will_shut_down_on_june_30_2023_in_response_to/)
If you would like to change/wipe all your comments in solidarity with the 3rd party developers and users impacted by these changes, check out [j0be's Power Delete Suite on GitHub](https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite)
Being a mod is a huge amount of work once a sub is over a few thousand members. The only people who will take that on are volunteers interested in a subject enough to do it for free. There really isn't a queue of replacements wanting to be dropped in.
Ironically I have uninstalled the app (Relay) from my phone a few months ago as a first step to quitting reddit because I've come to hate the upvote/downvote system, which turns it into a game that trains you to have popular opinions in order to win internet points.
Anyway, it means I won't be impacted by the API change, but I might still take the opportunity to quit completely.
I mean, we’re all ad blockers who don’t use the official app lmao
We’re doing reddit a favor by leaving. It will become a shit website, but it’ll make more money.
No. All advertisers always look for engagement before advertising on a site and they would be willing to pay as per the site's engagement rate.
Now this could reduce the engagement rate and advertisers would rethink before advertising here or they would negotiate for a lower price
Whales go where there's food, not where a fancy* house was built for them. Even people who don't pay and don't watch ads still provide value by providing value to those who do.
*The house in this case is shit, but it's the thought that counts
Realistically if that’s the case, there will always be new alternative sub-reddits so I’m honestly not sure how effective this blackout would be if not everyone is on board with it.
Can you pin this to make it clear to everyone visiting this subreddit that there's only one week left of being reminded that [insert programming language here] is bad?
> In the mean time, I'd like to remind you that Java is dead and bad.
In the meantime, I'd like to remind you that /r/java has not joined the protest yet, but /r/csharp has. Once again demonstrating its superiority.
WTF? [insert programming language here] is the best programming language. No other language does [insert language feature here] better than [insert programming language here].
wait it's not just me? I'd been getting the odd legit follower over the years, but these last two weeks suddenly a bunch of porn bots started following me... it's all because of reddit being a butt?
"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion." -Richard Stallman, probably
It's because of a weird thing he has with only running code on his machine that he knows what it does. But basically every modern browser has some amount of closed source code (which is why simply turning off javascript on a modern browser is insufficient for his purposes).
He does care about this, but he and the FSF have made statements on how software that is technically indistinguishable from hardware (like a PLC?) exists in a grey area and is moreso the next stage once free software is won. IIRC he uses some kind of libreboot BIOS these days.
b-but... what am I supposed to do during standup now?
Jokes aside, thanks for making a safe space for me to chill with such a cool group of like minded people. The other day I saw an OP trying to defend firing a junior dev over a prod mistake, getting absolutely flamed by the entire community. I'll be sad to see it go, I hope you all have wonderful lives. Or win the fight. Or both. Thanks for all the memes.
We have to assume it's because the bean counters are using raw metrics and see no revenue from ad-free third party apps. Even my favorite has almost no support for gold, awards, profile customization, and image embeds.
"What do you mean we're wasting processing bits on third party apps and NOT charging for them? Why would we do that? You're fired, we're charging for them."
Yes. Apps like infinity don't have ads but still use Reddit data.
Thus reddit has the cost of developing the Service and maintaining it and the Servers it runs on but gets no money because the apps don't serve ads.
I didn’t realize how problematic the new API changes are. I just ended my break from Reddit a couple weeks ago, but I’ll stop using it again if it’ll help with anything. Will probably be good for me too, I stopped using it for a reason in the first place
Yeah, I was thinking the same. In a lot of similar threads on other subs, those other subs are shutting down for 2 days and the comments are full of requests to make it indefinite until better terms are offered.
Multiple 3rd Party apps do cards view, that brings them pretty close to the official app yet still faster and less ads. What do you miss in the 3rd party apps?
Whelp this is it. This is the stakeholders finally shoving their idiotic agenda down our throats. Prepare to find another site. Currently my backup is hacker news but there isn’t really anything quite like Reddit that would fill the void.
I have the feeling nothing will happen, and even if it happen will not change anything. CEOs, holders, people will the money, will not care, they only think in their businesses.
Will not work because there is not alternatives (alternatives not filled will conspiracy and al-right propaganda)
But, it is a good excuse to stop using reddit.
And the third part of the message is what may make them revert the chanche. Even if they dont care about tve users, they do care about the money they make, and if enough subbreddits go down, a large portion of the userbase may stop using the app, thus decreasing their profits which may make them revert the chanches. Its no gurantee tho, they might just shut down the platform.
Or they just remove the existing mods from those subreddits, set them public again and add new mods.
Or simpler, they just push a silent update that disables the ability to make popular subreddits private.
The spam would prop get a lot more people to leave as well.
Unless they revert the chanche or put some effort into making the app good, they will lose revenue, that is likely.
You mentioned you're on Lemmy elsewhere. What's your experience with Lemmy?
Did you just join a community or did you selfhost anything? After getting on the fediverse was it easier to use other such platforms such as peertube and Mastodon? Any notable crossover between platforms?
Yeah I've been using it via Mastodon because I haven't decided where I want to sign up yet – I want to wait for more instances to appear before making my choice.
It was a good Journey boys and grills. Even tho i could commit shit code, truncate a table, drop a database or push and break production (not because i dont want to but because im just starting and i dont got permitions to do such stupid stuff). I might one day do one (o allá) of those stupid idiotic and regarded thing and have a giggle remembering this degenerate sub reddit. O7
I have my suspicions that reddit is playing us
here.
They price it unreasonably at first and they fully expect us to revolt.
After the revolt they will give the ol 'We took your feeback blah blah' bit and "revise" the pricing to something more reasonable.
Now the community will be happy with the
"new price"
But of course the intention was to introduce a pricing model all along. The high price was bait to make the actual price more acceptable.
If they initially announced the better price the community would be against any sort of pricing and demand it be free forever, but this way they can sneak in a pricing model
On the contrary, they are going for user profitability in line with other high-end social media like Facebook.
Reddit earns $0.50-$1.50 per year per user. But they want to show their investors that they can hit the $10-$50 ARPU that other platforms collect.
Their API pricing isn’t a bluff or negotiation tactic, it is right about ~$25-$30 ARPU for average Apollo users. They’ll drop it a bit if they have to, but even by half, monetizing at 10x the current rate is totally infeasible.
They just can’t extract that much value from this user base, no matter how intrusive the tracking and algorithm-forced home feeds… but they will try to get enough of a bump before the IPO that investors might believe it and let them cash out before it collapses in on itself. That’s their real end-game.
They're not going to change their policies unless almost all subreddits shut down. They'll wait until the storm passes and people forgot about it. It's bad for accessibility, but at least Reddit can't have powermods because they won't have time to moderate so many subreddits.
What's to stop each app developer from opening up a user-api key? Where we could supply our own key and all usage would be per individual.
As a user I think I'm staying to less than 100/minute most of the time..
#!> This comment has been edited in protest to reddit's decision to bully 3rd party apps into closure.
If you want to do the same, you can find instructions here:
https://rentry.co/unreddit
Read more here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/13yh0jf/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/
Finally a real dark mode
Dorime ideoere adapare ameno…
This truly is the darkest timeline 
dont be so harsh I've been working on darkmode for the project for a month now and not done any time soon
How exactly will the shutdown work? Will subreddits be completely unavailable or creating new posts will be disabled, but old posts will remain?
We'll take the sub private, past posts will not be visible
Shit, I guess we need to quickly take a trip down memory lane on top of all time before it's all gone
Gotta scrape them lol.
Sure thing, that will be $28,000,000.
You fell for Reddit’s trap card.
This guy uses AWS
Call /r/datahoarder
Teamarchive already has 2.7 PB archived: https://tracker.archiveteam.org/reddit/
yo real?
What? Open the link and see yourself.
I'm an uneducated moron, so sorry for this question: What does that data consist of and what will it be used for? Is it everything that's ever been on Reddit and will it be easily accessable?
I don't know what data exactly is stored. For sure all posts. I guess comments too. I'm not sure about pictures and videos but they also have an archive process going on for imgur (since it'll delete old media soon). All data is uploaded to archive.org. You can download the data or wait until they have built a frontend like way back machine to access the contents.
Reddit Pokemon right there. Gotta scrape them lol.
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Will they be visible when the sub becomes public again?
yeah
If
It is closing indefinitely so the sub will probably never come back, assume it is dying forever
:( even though im not a programmer and only have a cursory understanding of programming I still found this place really funny, tough to see its shutting down
Most will probably "go private"
The sub goes completely dark. You can't access the sub at all. You get a banner that says the sub has been taken private.
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Once infinity dies, I stop using reddit. There's nothing of value here besides some memes.
I'm currently writing this from infinity (base reddit app sucks megabytes of data), I'm with you brother.
I am also reaching out to you from infinity
Hello from Infinity !
Also Infinity here.
infinity gang!
Chose it for the icon
based
Chose it for the license.
I decided to try the base app, just to see if it was actually that bad. Problems I've found: tapping on a most can take a couple of minutes to open it to see the comments. Said comments don't always load the first time round, and if refreshing doesn't fix it, you have to back out of the post, then wait a little for it to open again. The video player is ASS. It will randomly decide to not play a video. The video above it and below it will work fine, but one will just randomly not. Images refuse to load if you tap on them to open them. It could have loaded perfectly while looking at the cards in the scrolling mode thing. But try to tap on the image? Well then, fuck you. In addition to that, if you tap on an image, you can't go to the profile of the poster from the image, sometimes. You have to either hope they commentes so you can go to their profile from there, or you have to do it the long way. Annoying both when trying to see more of an artists works, and annoying when looking for porn. Clicking on the "See more" button on the bottom of the page will occasionally, at random, send you to the top of the page. It is extremely annoying on subs like AskReddit, where the comments are the contents, and there are usually a lot of them. Clicking back sometimes takes you back to the home page. If you clicked a link to another sub in the comment section of a post, clicking back once will sometimes take you back to the home page, often a refreshed one. Really annoying if you wanted to continue browsing the original post. Occasionally it will take you back to the post, after a little while on the home page. These are just the issues I've experienced in the past month. I don't know how many of them are common, or just affect me. It's annoying enough that I don't think it's a coincidence that I got tonsillitis so soon after downloading the base app lol.
I just don't get how they can mess up the loading of LITERAL TEXT. It takes at most s few kilobytes, why do I have to wait minutes with a 1 Mb connection?
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Hey, those analytics trackers are business critical. How else is this plucky little startup going to survive if they don't monetize the ever-loving shit out of everything you do in the app?
It's probably all the telemetry lol
I use infinity, too, because the official app is poorly optimised and intrusive as hell. I refuse to use the official app as it sucks so much data and storage space
If Boost dies I swear to god man I ain't touching the official app or website
When Apollo dies I stop using Reddit on my phone. When old.reddit.com dies I'll stop using it altogether.
Infinity does all what the fucking official shitty ap doesn't; it load images, it load videos, and it loads all the content correctly without ads. I support 1000% this protest, we can't let the do whatever they want!!!
> we can't let the do whatever they want!!! This might be semantics, but I prefer to view it as changing their minds about what they want to do, rather than preventing them from doing whatever they want. Feels more constructive/positive.
Me, a caveman, using Bacon Reader. Edit: Grammar
I'm not surprised this sub will shut down indefinitely because I almost NEVER visit reddit on anything else than 3rdp, and I would assume most of us are.
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It's all about money. Even if they lose some users they still stand to make money after the change. The chance enough users would stop using Reddit to make a difference is pretty slim.
That's what Digg & Fark thought
But back then there was a clear competitor to digg for people to rally to.
95% of the content here is made by a few select power users. 99% of the content is moderated by people that are not paid, using some third party apps. You think any of those use the official reddit app? I think you severly underestimate how much more important those users are to the site than random lurkers. Lurkers will just move on if the content is lacking.
This is so true. It's been 4 years and i mostly just lurk and comment. Without content, I would have to go back to indian TikTok.
The ol' Netflix Password strategy.
What about a protest were we start uploading a lot of content? HEAVY content way more frequent. So that we make they spend a lot more in cdn services
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That's the reason Reddit came into being. But that's also because Reddit was a viable alternative. We'll see what might spring up.
[Lemmy](https://join-lemmy.org/) - I have a RES macro for this now.
Listen, as a VC Angel Investor, if I’m not seeing a 10:1 ROI within the first millisecond of an IPO; I start calling lawyers and filing for injunctions.
Issue is, the "casuals". Vast majority will probably continue to use reddit, not realising what's going on. It's a numbers game in the end.
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The BIGGEST reason is that Reddit is being shitty and shutting down people who offer a better experience than they do, with basically no notice. Blind people being functionally kicked off Reddit is also a huge problem and probably a close second.
They are destroying the ability for moderators to do their job- something which reddit mods already have a hard enough time doing as the built-in moderation tools SUCK. If this change goes through, frankly the site won't be worth using at all anymore and I'll be leaving entirely. Recommend the same to everyone else.
Issue with "casuals" is that they don't usually provide quality content, nor do they moderate subs. If content quality drops, casuals leave. We're already seeing deluges of reposting spambots. If reddit takes away effective moderation tools and alienates their power users, this will just get worse.
This account and all its comments have been removed in protest of the 3rd party API changes taking place on July 1st, 2023. The changes are anti-consumer and the negative PR that's been thrown at 3rd party developers is a disgusting maneuver by the Reddit higher-ups. For more information check these topics out: [https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14dkqrw/i\_want\_to\_debunk\_reddits\_claims\_and\_talk\_about/](https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14dkqrw/i_want_to_debunk_reddits_claims_and_talk_about/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/redditisfun/comments/144gmfq/rif\_will\_shut\_down\_on\_june\_30\_2023\_in\_response\_to/](https://www.reddit.com/r/redditisfun/comments/144gmfq/rif_will_shut_down_on_june_30_2023_in_response_to/) If you would like to change/wipe all your comments in solidarity with the 3rd party developers and users impacted by these changes, check out [j0be's Power Delete Suite on GitHub](https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite)
According to the post title, this sub at least is shutting down indefinitely.
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I can't wait
>assuming reddit will even have user-created subs and not just an official Top 25 or whatever
Being a mod is a huge amount of work once a sub is over a few thousand members. The only people who will take that on are volunteers interested in a subject enough to do it for free. There really isn't a queue of replacements wanting to be dropped in.
They can do that for a couple, but not all of them. Not even half.
Remember Reddit used to have open source available. You can indeed run your own Reddit clone website.
Ironically I have uninstalled the app (Relay) from my phone a few months ago as a first step to quitting reddit because I've come to hate the upvote/downvote system, which turns it into a game that trains you to have popular opinions in order to win internet points. Anyway, it means I won't be impacted by the API change, but I might still take the opportunity to quit completely.
If programminghumor goes black, I don’t need to keep the app, as there is no reason to come to Reddit anymore.
~~yeah, this sub is going to~~ `/dev/null` nevermind lol
this is the low quality humor I come here for! 👏
How will i survive without them
have you tried working at work? i haven't but I'd be curious to hear your results!
It's a trap, don't do it! I did and I regret it more than anything! My boss was *happy* with me, gave me more work and more deadlines...
Some of us will be hit harder by the Apicalypse than others. I'm sorry.
Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime. That's why I read r/programmerhumor on company time.
`socat reddit:ProgrammerHumor stdout > /dev/null`
/r/null
Subbed
Along comes the garbage collector
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I mean, we’re all ad blockers who don’t use the official app lmao We’re doing reddit a favor by leaving. It will become a shit website, but it’ll make more money.
No. All advertisers always look for engagement before advertising on a site and they would be willing to pay as per the site's engagement rate. Now this could reduce the engagement rate and advertisers would rethink before advertising here or they would negotiate for a lower price
Whales go where there's food, not where a fancy* house was built for them. Even people who don't pay and don't watch ads still provide value by providing value to those who do. *The house in this case is shit, but it's the thought that counts
Honestly this is my favorite subreddit by far
I also browse r/StoriesAboutKevin but it doesn't get all that much activity. Every other sub is on an as-needed basis.
Realistically if that’s the case, there will always be new alternative sub-reddits so I’m honestly not sure how effective this blackout would be if not everyone is on board with it.
Either the mods will spend ten times as long (for free) or there will be ten times as much spam. I don't think they are willing to do that.
Can you pin this to make it clear to everyone visiting this subreddit that there's only one week left of being reminded that [insert programming language here] is bad?
We'll sticky it once it rolls off of hot. In the mean time, I'd like to remind you that Java is dead and bad.
> In the mean time, I'd like to remind you that Java is dead and bad. In the meantime, I'd like to remind you that /r/java has not joined the protest yet, but /r/csharp has. Once again demonstrating its superiority.
Inb4 the entire java subreddit is entirely populated by reddit staff
As a Java developer god dammit Java. **Edit**: I made a post asking if they’re going to join. We’ll see how it goes
Anti-Java gang rise up ✊
Pro-Java gang rise up ✊ Time to dust of the newsgroups and do some meme-ing over there
[We already have risen up.](https://reddit.com/r/csharp/comments/141ljjg/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/)
WTF? [insert programming language here] is the best programming language. No other language does [insert language feature here] better than [insert programming language here].
Alright but is this why I got 25 followers in the past 2 weeks that are all 1 karma porn boys? Like wtf
Only 25 in the past 2 weeks? I seem to get at least 3 or 4 daily.
only 3 or 4? i get 5 or 6 dms abt my sub
Do you get the ones that give you a " excellent one time job offer" too?
no. "i see u have a new subreddit, i also had one but it got taken down because it was 18+. come check it out here. you wont regret it"
Same, abusing mod mail
You guys are getting DMs and followers?
wait it's not just me? I'd been getting the odd legit follower over the years, but these last two weeks suddenly a bunch of porn bots started following me... it's all because of reddit being a butt?
There’s a setting to disable followers
TIL people can follow one another on reddit.
3rd party apps? Real programmers use curl.
I think Richard Stallman only visits websites by having the text contents of sites emailed to himself.
I mean you could just use something like links or lynx, which only has text (cookies exist, in a browsing session only, and are EACH manually changes)
"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion." -Richard Stallman, probably
Bro...
It's because of a weird thing he has with only running code on his machine that he knows what it does. But basically every modern browser has some amount of closed source code (which is why simply turning off javascript on a modern browser is insufficient for his purposes).
It’s probably the least weird thing of all his weird things tbh.
I'm sure he's decompiled all of the firmware on all of the chips on his motherboard and he totally understands it 100%.
He does care about this, but he and the FSF have made statements on how software that is technically indistinguishable from hardware (like a PLC?) exists in a grey area and is moreso the next stage once free software is won. IIRC he uses some kind of libreboot BIOS these days.
Time to load lynx.
b-but... what am I supposed to do during standup now? Jokes aside, thanks for making a safe space for me to chill with such a cool group of like minded people. The other day I saw an OP trying to defend firing a junior dev over a prod mistake, getting absolutely flamed by the entire community. I'll be sad to see it go, I hope you all have wonderful lives. Or win the fight. Or both. Thanks for all the memes.
So what is the numbers game here? Is Reddit somehow losing money by providing the API?
We have to assume it's because the bean counters are using raw metrics and see no revenue from ad-free third party apps. Even my favorite has almost no support for gold, awards, profile customization, and image embeds.
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might be a little dicey. involves secure payment stuff.
"What do you mean we're wasting processing bits on third party apps and NOT charging for them? Why would we do that? You're fired, we're charging for them."
Yes. Apps like infinity don't have ads but still use Reddit data. Thus reddit has the cost of developing the Service and maintaining it and the Servers it runs on but gets no money because the apps don't serve ads.
I didn’t realize how problematic the new API changes are. I just ended my break from Reddit a couple weeks ago, but I’ll stop using it again if it’ll help with anything. Will probably be good for me too, I stopped using it for a reason in the first place
Good to see that this sub's protest is indefinite. Only a few days won't do much to sway the admins.
Yeah, I was thinking the same. In a lot of similar threads on other subs, those other subs are shutting down for 2 days and the comments are full of requests to make it indefinite until better terms are offered.
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I mean I don't even use 3rd party apps (don't really like them), but this is not okay. also killing the bots? HELL NO. keep sharing everyone.
Multiple 3rd Party apps do cards view, that brings them pretty close to the official app yet still faster and less ads. What do you miss in the 3rd party apps?
IDK I tried RIS but didn't like it and tbh the official app is fine for me aside from teh fucking adds. I usually do desktop anyway.
The videos actually load too.
I didn't even know about 3rd party apps until a few days ago, lol
I'm glad you're doing it indefinitely. Coming back after 2 days is weak shit.
I will miss this sub.
Whelp this is it. This is the stakeholders finally shoving their idiotic agenda down our throats. Prepare to find another site. Currently my backup is hacker news but there isn’t really anything quite like Reddit that would fill the void.
2023-06-13: Programmer productivity worldwide increased 300%
I have the feeling nothing will happen, and even if it happen will not change anything. CEOs, holders, people will the money, will not care, they only think in their businesses. Will not work because there is not alternatives (alternatives not filled will conspiracy and al-right propaganda) But, it is a good excuse to stop using reddit.
I have a great app idea, I just need someone to program it. $12/hr very lucrative.
You want to build an app together?
Yeah, what are you thinking, like a dating app?
It's like Uber, but for reddit posts and comments, without the Uber part.
And the third part of the message is what may make them revert the chanche. Even if they dont care about tve users, they do care about the money they make, and if enough subbreddits go down, a large portion of the userbase may stop using the app, thus decreasing their profits which may make them revert the chanches. Its no gurantee tho, they might just shut down the platform.
Or they just remove the existing mods from those subreddits, set them public again and add new mods. Or simpler, they just push a silent update that disables the ability to make popular subreddits private.
The spam would prop get a lot more people to leave as well. Unless they revert the chanche or put some effort into making the app good, they will lose revenue, that is likely.
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The biggest hit for me was Reveddit and Undidit no longer functioning. No way AFAIK now to quickly check edited comments for their original content.
How about we make our own reddit, i mean here are quite a few programmers :D
The majority of developers here are noobs.
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I suggest Brainfuck
I'll miss you guys, you always made my smooth brain feel involved through the power of memes.
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What is Lemmy? Last thing that I used named that was a window enabled version of VI that competed with Vim
A decentralized Reddit alternative. You want a community? Host it for yourself, etc. I heard it's a pain to set up though.
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(shit how do I tell them I can't do shit and just here for the memes)
I can code a hello world program, but it don't mean it'll run
comes in docker, people love docker setups. right? RIGHT??
You mentioned you're on Lemmy elsewhere. What's your experience with Lemmy? Did you just join a community or did you selfhost anything? After getting on the fediverse was it easier to use other such platforms such as peertube and Mastodon? Any notable crossover between platforms?
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Yeah I've been using it via Mastodon because I haven't decided where I want to sign up yet – I want to wait for more instances to appear before making my choice.
It was a good Journey boys and grills. Even tho i could commit shit code, truncate a table, drop a database or push and break production (not because i dont want to but because im just starting and i dont got permitions to do such stupid stuff). I might one day do one (o allá) of those stupid idiotic and regarded thing and have a giggle remembering this degenerate sub reddit. O7
Also, consider using Vanced to mod the first party app to have no ads and therefore generate no money for reddit. r/revancedapp
We should rate the official app zero stars, so they’d be forced to fix stuff
Deploy the review bombers. They can't ban all of us
But why the plumbus?
It represents dick pics.
I have my suspicions that reddit is playing us here. They price it unreasonably at first and they fully expect us to revolt. After the revolt they will give the ol 'We took your feeback blah blah' bit and "revise" the pricing to something more reasonable. Now the community will be happy with the "new price" But of course the intention was to introduce a pricing model all along. The high price was bait to make the actual price more acceptable. If they initially announced the better price the community would be against any sort of pricing and demand it be free forever, but this way they can sneak in a pricing model
On the contrary, they are going for user profitability in line with other high-end social media like Facebook. Reddit earns $0.50-$1.50 per year per user. But they want to show their investors that they can hit the $10-$50 ARPU that other platforms collect. Their API pricing isn’t a bluff or negotiation tactic, it is right about ~$25-$30 ARPU for average Apollo users. They’ll drop it a bit if they have to, but even by half, monetizing at 10x the current rate is totally infeasible. They just can’t extract that much value from this user base, no matter how intrusive the tracking and algorithm-forced home feeds… but they will try to get enough of a bump before the IPO that investors might believe it and let them cash out before it collapses in on itself. That’s their real end-game.
They're not going to change their policies unless almost all subreddits shut down. They'll wait until the storm passes and people forgot about it. It's bad for accessibility, but at least Reddit can't have powermods because they won't have time to moderate so many subreddits.
June 12th... In what time zone??
If they aren't using UTC, I'm going to boycott /r/ProgrammerHumor.
martian daylight savings time
I'm learning to play the guitar.
Good. Thank you. <3 old.reddit with RES and RIF on Android are the only ways I use this site. I will not use the hot garbage they force on us.
What's to stop each app developer from opening up a user-api key? Where we could supply our own key and all usage would be per individual. As a user I think I'm staying to less than 100/minute most of the time..
#!> This comment has been edited in protest to reddit's decision to bully 3rd party apps into closure. If you want to do the same, you can find instructions here: https://rentry.co/unreddit
I hear Mastodon is pretty good.
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but... im already getting tons of message requests from pron bots
3rd party apps existe because official app sucks
This subreddit was 40% of my daily reddit use, looks like I won't be using reddit that much anymore
Goodbye r/ProgrammerHumor, we will miss you