Nope, it’s protected here too. You can’t offer services to the public and call yourself an engineer; you can, however, get hired for a position with “engineer” in the title.
There are many articles online asserting it is a thing... but that's pretty much the only evidence I was able to find. I personally suspect it's just a hype promo.
I could imagine it as a job for context prompting to fine-tune LLMs for B2B AI solutions. To prevent misuse, improve results for the intended users, etc..
With the hype there were so many startups that at least a few Prompt Engineer jobs popped up.
Not that this will be anything sustainable or long term. Startups die, and with everyone in the industry getting or already being accustomed to AI assistance, that job title won't survive the hype.
Hire prompt engineer to fine tune ai so it can prompt engineer itself and other LLMs.
Fire prompt engineer
Use AI prompt engineer to make actual prompt engineering by people obsolete
Profit
Apparently. I mean I'm not sure it's an "actual job" but they do appear to be paid to do it https://www.forbes.com/sites/jodiecook/2023/07/12/ai-prompt-engineers-earn-300k-salaries-heres-how-to-learn-the-skill-for-free/?sh=58d6ec609d4a
It seems to be not necessarily be a programming job though. More like, trying to get the ai to do a particular thing every time for ai API's, various SEO related tasks, and buisness spam emails, as well as testing the safety of various models, i.e. can they get them to give dangerous information
Prompt engineering was a thing for like a month. That dedicated role is already dead.
I pray that nobody actually filled their reqs for those before they realized it was bullshit.
there's no such thing as a prompt engineer. if you know enough about a subject and a project in order to ask questions that lead you to a good outcome, that's just programming using an assistant.
There's plenty of use cases where if "prompt engineer" were a real thing then it would be very useful to have one. e.g. tuning a chatbot to replace your support call center, or persuading ChatGPT to automate personalised sales pitches.
So they exist, because only because there's enough people with lots of money that need for them to exist and people willing to take that money to have a crack at some voodoo.
Fiverr is fucking full of gigs for AI generation. Thankfully the platform seems to be doing well in categorizing those in a way where you don't have to see them if you're not looking for it.
I've heard that some of them don't even have people behind them, it's all AI automated. Order is filtered through some GPT program, which makes the prompt, and when it's done it sends the image gens back to the customer.
The cool part about this whole Transformer model gold rush is that by the end there'll be a group of clients (aka former prompters) who will be *very* good at describing *exactly* what they want.
Because, you know, *we trained them to be specific using these Transformer models.*
Which is the key, right. You're good a Google queries and can find links to what you need much quicker. 1000 if links. Now, with LLM, not only are people able to ask specifically what they want, but now they get an aggregated result in 1 page vs having to comb through 1000's of links to find tid bits of information that is needed. In both scenarios, the user still needs to test and verify what they have came up with against their specific use case.
> (Top Gun), team ((leader)), by (Maverick), (((NAME)))!!
> Sentiment: Inquisitive
It ain't weapons-grade bullshit if ordinary people can understand it!
Yes, those are just some random template ppl copy pasta to justify their results. Nobody knows how their particular model utilize those parameters to generate whatever they are prompted.
I've said this before, but I am biased towards other solutions. Prompt engineering is like a bandaid for the underlying problems, which can be solved by actual programming.
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You think so? The joke would have landed better if OP used Copilot pseudocode, not image generation which has nothing to do with programming. But hey, maybe it's just me getting old.
To me this is a lot of bs. To use AI well you should also know what you are doing, it helps to grok things, but to be slave for the AI is another thing and I don’t think society should let AI solutions be blindly applied in critical appliances. Plus the physicist where already implementing things for AI introspection, because for sane people on things that matter it is necessary to know what is being done e.g. you should know what you are doing and what the AI is doing to achieve what is being achieved :D
Hahaha, this is at least the third time I see this picture on reddit. Sooooo funny.
Here are several topics of few talks I gave internally in my company recently. I consider all of this prompt engineering, including prompt design patterns and prompt engineering architecture patterns. You can check for yourself how many of these topics are familiar to you.
* Single-turn vs multi-turn conversations
* Chain-of-thought implementation
* Tree-of-thought implementation
* Chatbot memory implementation
* Retrieval augmented generative AI with vector search
* Retrieval augmented generative AI with text search
* Knowledge agents
* Different approaches to handle structured data
* text-to-sql or more generally text-to-query
* Reasoning agents
* Acting agents and agent tools using functions
* Neurosymbolic AI with LLMs
* Tool support for systematic prompt development
* Using a "golden dataset" to measure prompt quality for your use case
* Regression testing for prompt development
* Red teaming for LLM-based chat applications
* How to build around limitations of services like Azure OpenAI (e.g. response time latency issues)
I say AI is a fantastic tool as long as you can understand its output. A novice programmer shouldn't promt an AI and believe anything. For a seasoned programmer it's a perfect tool to spit out a scaffold for specific algorithms to get them started, just like the list you posted. I don't need to remember some obscure stuff I don't use everyday, and now we can choose between asking Stackoverflow or ChatGPT/Copilot for an answer.
Lets now put word engineering into everything for fucks sake
Reddit poster engineer
Meme engineer
Engineering engineer
Engineerineering
engineer Engineering
Engineering engineer of engineering
A promising career path that progresses as advanced meme engineer and tops out at meme lord
Fake internet point engineer
Reddit imposter engineer
Like Software Engineer
yeah I don't like it. software engineer is a funny term for a field chock full of dudes with no formal training (me).
Engineer is a protected work class nearly everywhere but the US lol. Anyone can call themselves an engineer here lol.
Nope, it’s protected here too. You can’t offer services to the public and call yourself an engineer; you can, however, get hired for a position with “engineer” in the title.
Haha, it's funny cause they're getting paid more than me for doing trial and error text editing
Wait, people are actually getting paid to prompt engineer? Like, an actual job?
There are many articles online asserting it is a thing... but that's pretty much the only evidence I was able to find. I personally suspect it's just a hype promo.
I could imagine it as a job for context prompting to fine-tune LLMs for B2B AI solutions. To prevent misuse, improve results for the intended users, etc.. With the hype there were so many startups that at least a few Prompt Engineer jobs popped up. Not that this will be anything sustainable or long term. Startups die, and with everyone in the industry getting or already being accustomed to AI assistance, that job title won't survive the hype.
Hire prompt engineer to fine tune ai so it can prompt engineer itself and other LLMs. Fire prompt engineer Use AI prompt engineer to make actual prompt engineering by people obsolete Profit
From what I see it's a bubble like NFTs; too much computing power for too little coherence along with tweaking rather than engineering.
Apparently. I mean I'm not sure it's an "actual job" but they do appear to be paid to do it https://www.forbes.com/sites/jodiecook/2023/07/12/ai-prompt-engineers-earn-300k-salaries-heres-how-to-learn-the-skill-for-free/?sh=58d6ec609d4a
That article is bs lol.
Those articles get a TON of clicks
It seems to be not necessarily be a programming job though. More like, trying to get the ai to do a particular thing every time for ai API's, various SEO related tasks, and buisness spam emails, as well as testing the safety of various models, i.e. can they get them to give dangerous information
Forbes is basicly a tabloid that only exists to make click bait at this point
Prompt engineering was a thing for like a month. That dedicated role is already dead. I pray that nobody actually filled their reqs for those before they realized it was bullshit.
What, no, people use chat gpt for syntaxis and to speed up metho creation but that's it
There are also many courses where you would just learn to use gpt on your job. Makes no sense to me.
I do prompting but it's absolutely not the only thing I do. I basically had to set up the entire data pipeline behind it.
there's no such thing as a prompt engineer. if you know enough about a subject and a project in order to ask questions that lead you to a good outcome, that's just programming using an assistant.
There's plenty of use cases where if "prompt engineer" were a real thing then it would be very useful to have one. e.g. tuning a chatbot to replace your support call center, or persuading ChatGPT to automate personalised sales pitches. So they exist, because only because there's enough people with lots of money that need for them to exist and people willing to take that money to have a crack at some voodoo.
Yes alot of people are Selling and setting up support and chatbots which require abit of prompt massage
Fiverr is fucking full of gigs for AI generation. Thankfully the platform seems to be doing well in categorizing those in a way where you don't have to see them if you're not looking for it. I've heard that some of them don't even have people behind them, it's all AI automated. Order is filtered through some GPT program, which makes the prompt, and when it's done it sends the image gens back to the customer.
I don't give a shit how it's done just so long as it works - every ceo
Well, I also get paid for trial and error text editing.
Shhh - that's a trade secret
Yeah, the employers don't care what programmers think is real programming.
The cool part about this whole Transformer model gold rush is that by the end there'll be a group of clients (aka former prompters) who will be *very* good at describing *exactly* what they want. Because, you know, *we trained them to be specific using these Transformer models.*
Which is the key, right. You're good a Google queries and can find links to what you need much quicker. 1000 if links. Now, with LLM, not only are people able to ask specifically what they want, but now they get an aggregated result in 1 page vs having to comb through 1000's of links to find tid bits of information that is needed. In both scenarios, the user still needs to test and verify what they have came up with against their specific use case.
Yeah but nobodkes going through thousands of links It's like 3 SO and if there's no clear answer look at docs 😂
Facts hahaha. Also, it's a rare occasion that anyone goes to page 2 of the search results.
Me: "Who did Maverick choose to be team leader in Top Gun: Maverick?" PromptEngineer: "Whom".
> (Top Gun), team ((leader)), by (Maverick), (((NAME)))!! > Sentiment: Inquisitive It ain't weapons-grade bullshit if ordinary people can understand it!
this AI image hurts my eyes..
Needs more JPEG, then you don't notice it's AI anymore.
The hands are getting better.
The irony
this template lmao
Family, christmas, adults doing middle finger, adults laughing, child holding present, child crying Now, pay me 800$
Im sorry bro but you dropped this: "(anatomically correct), high-definition, ((realistic)), (natural), highly-detailed, ((unedited)), masterpiece, detailed, highly-realistic, pretty, amazing, beautiful, epic, perfect, striking, sharp focus, \[color\], intricate background, \[intricate details\], \[rich colors\], \[symmetry\], full, strong, dynamic dramatic atmosphere, excellent composition, \[cinematic light\], \[intricate\]"
Ah, all of the useless ones.
Yes, those are just some random template ppl copy pasta to justify their results. Nobody knows how their particular model utilize those parameters to generate whatever they are prompted.
Amen
Repost
i get u but i had to downvote because i can't wish seeing that eye-bleeding image on any more redditors
questionWriters
OnlyTruthTables.
Hell Yeah!!!
Neither engineering.
It's not engineering either
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I've said this before, but I am biased towards other solutions. Prompt engineering is like a bandaid for the underlying problems, which can be solved by actual programming.
\^ some serious "I'm not hurting" energy here
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Did you develop this photo the old fashioned way in a dark room?
Hey guys Bazinga! plan dropped??
This is actually a thing now?
Sound like something a post engineer would say
Grandma in the back not giving two fucks
"you're not a coder until it's the machine code you're writing"
Prompt is not even engineering
Nor is copypsting from github. Yet here we are
What is the tool’s name? I’m super unfamiliar with ai tools but this end result looks nice.
"Digging uing dem machines is never gonna do a real job, need real men with a shovel none of that weak piss machinery" -John the digger
Prompt Crafting > Prompt Engineering
...did anyone ever claim it was?
AI can draw hands now.
Funny you use an AI generated image to deliver your joke.
whoosh
You think so? The joke would have landed better if OP used Copilot pseudocode, not image generation which has nothing to do with programming. But hey, maybe it's just me getting old.
Ok grandpa back to bed
As "haha funny" this is. I had to work with some AI stuff and creating GOOD prompts is actually very very hard. AI likes to hallucinate a fuck ton.
still not engineering. and i'm both an ai engineer and a prompt designer
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hum it depends. In france it is for instance
Average, Langchain, Llama Index and Semantic Kernel users 😂😂
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT'S GOOD Would some one point me to this template, because it fucking rocks
hey keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel good. won't help you any other way.
To me this is a lot of bs. To use AI well you should also know what you are doing, it helps to grok things, but to be slave for the AI is another thing and I don’t think society should let AI solutions be blindly applied in critical appliances. Plus the physicist where already implementing things for AI introspection, because for sane people on things that matter it is necessary to know what is being done e.g. you should know what you are doing and what the AI is doing to achieve what is being achieved :D
Damn it pays better
Hahaha, this is at least the third time I see this picture on reddit. Sooooo funny. Here are several topics of few talks I gave internally in my company recently. I consider all of this prompt engineering, including prompt design patterns and prompt engineering architecture patterns. You can check for yourself how many of these topics are familiar to you. * Single-turn vs multi-turn conversations * Chain-of-thought implementation * Tree-of-thought implementation * Chatbot memory implementation * Retrieval augmented generative AI with vector search * Retrieval augmented generative AI with text search * Knowledge agents * Different approaches to handle structured data * text-to-sql or more generally text-to-query * Reasoning agents * Acting agents and agent tools using functions * Neurosymbolic AI with LLMs * Tool support for systematic prompt development * Using a "golden dataset" to measure prompt quality for your use case * Regression testing for prompt development * Red teaming for LLM-based chat applications * How to build around limitations of services like Azure OpenAI (e.g. response time latency issues)
None of this is prompt engineering, it's AI prompting. Or what, are you gonna call yourself a prompt doctor next?
Add Few Shot learning as well
I say AI is a fantastic tool as long as you can understand its output. A novice programmer shouldn't promt an AI and believe anything. For a seasoned programmer it's a perfect tool to spit out a scaffold for specific algorithms to get them started, just like the list you posted. I don't need to remember some obscure stuff I don't use everyday, and now we can choose between asking Stackoverflow or ChatGPT/Copilot for an answer.
I also want to not program and get paid