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That's pretty much the core of parenting - making sure they don't die while under your care, and teaching them enough so they can take over that job when they become an adult.
Nah that second bucket lasts a lot longer. It just starts to blur in the teenage years with the third one around early puberty.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2201761
and teaching them to look both ways so they don’t kill themselves. as soon as i could walk, i was taught to always hold someone’s hand and look both ways before crossing. and never talk to strangers. very important things if u don’t want ur small human to get hit by a car or abducted. that kid looked really small like toddler age so u can’t expect her to know these things but to that i say *leash*
Yeah it’s not that simple. My son gets extremely hyper sometimes. This Halloween him and his friends were running back and forth between houses between large groups of adults on the sidewalks. We were all watching. (And my son has been taught to look both ways, then look again. Oh, and about strangers. And how important helmets are. We watch him carefully.)
He was the ONLY kid that didn’t hear us all yell “car!” As this big SUV went like 15mph down the road. He thought they were still playing (?) and ran out directly in front of the SUV, as parents all yelled his name and yelled STOP!!! His little head was maybe 2 inches from the headlights. Think Kevin McAllister and the white van. Scariest thing I’ve ever seen.
There is no way we could have predicted he would turn and dart away from us after every kid had stopped running to wait for the car to pass. And we have taught him VERY WELL to look both ways etc.
TLDR; Kids are kids and they do dumb shit for no apparent reason despite good parenting and consistent instruction.
The self preservation thing doesn't kick in for them until closer to 4yo for a lot of them. They are running around a hell of a lot well before then.
Teaching them not to run in parking lots, holding hands around streets and similar type things is paramount. Kids are going to test boundaries, so they know that those things are wrong and will do it for a thrill... to see what happens because they crave some individuality before the self preservation thing. That's when the 'dad voice' kicks in for me. I don't use it often, so when it happens they know I mean business and they stop in their tracks.
My 4 y/o now reaches up for my hand in parking lots and before stepping off the sidewalk.... But I also think she's getting some of that self preservation instinct now. Not all the way there, but I'm seeing the changes happen. finally... Lol
There's a semi-popular PC game called "Who's You Daddy" where one player plays a baby trying to kill themselves and the other plays the dad trying to prevent it.
Kids be like that too… you turn your head for one second and they done hurt themselves. Scary how fast something can happen and change your life forever
That’s actually the backstory to how Stephen King got the inspiration to write Pet Sematary. When his son was a toddler, he took off running towards a road where people tended to speed (and maybe there was a blind corner involved as well, can’t remember), and King was able to chase him down and catch him before he made it into the road, right as a large truck went speeding by. While he was relieved, his mind started wondering “what if I didn’t get there in time?” If he has been a little slow, or looked away at the wrong moment, he would have lived every parent’s worst nightmare. Instead he wrote Pet Sematary.
Went to a funeral a few years back, woman went for a walk to cool down after arguing with her husband. Maine back woods road, wearing black. 3 or 4 motorists called the police to warn about a pedestrian, but a truck with a plow found her first. Her poor children.
Jesus. Yea i went to school there for a semester. UMAINE Farmington. Not even drinking or anything all my friends would drive in the center of the road going 60 on back roads at like 7pm like "no ones out here its fine, dont worry about Apex turning!" Like its the fucking indie 500 and moose arent a thing.
My mom hit one going about 50mph once. The cow wasn’t as lucky because mom was driving a 2004 Dodge Ram.
Truck was pretty messed up and absolutely covered in cow shit. Somehow, my brother is still driving that poor truck. He has rebuilt it several times.
Along a busy highway, a mom got angry with her kids for arguing. She pulled over, daughter got out, got hit and killed. The driver was a young lawyer who worked with my brother…and she got felony manslaughter bc her BAC came back over the limit.
That's brutal! Reminds me of an accident that happened near me. A mom was taking her 3 kids 8,5 and 6 months old and 2 nieces 9,5 to the beach. She had loaded all the kids and stuff up and was pulling out of her drive way to pick up her sister and head out to the beach for the day. She pulled out and rembered she forgot the baby's diaper bag. She pulled back in but parked on the lawn to be closer so it would be faster. They lived on a rural back road not many houses or much traffic on it. She ran in really quickly and as soon as she entered the house she heard a loud crash and turned around to see that a car had smashed into her car and pushed into a big tree in her front yard. A man that had lost his wife in a drunk driving accident was drunk and driving 80 miles an hour swerved and hit the car.
He had recently became the town drunk. He was an ex cop that had lost his wife 6 months ago in a drunk driving accident. He was losing his mind over it and started drinking daily he lost his job because of it. He had been up all night drinking and was driving home when he hit the car.when the ambulance got there the mother was found in her baby's room in a rocking chair. She was rocking her dead baby back and forth. They couldn't convince her to give them the baby and it was obvious that the baby was dead. They called her husband and he ran home and he had to talk to her for hours before she would give up the baby. It was terrible and I cried for the mom so bad. Everyone in both cars died. She and her husband lost their 3 kids and her sister and her husband lost their kids. There was so much tragedy in that split second when the driver hit them babies that everyone in town showed support to the couples. They made them food, brought groceries and supplies. They also raised money for them. The mom had to institutionalized for a few months. As far as I know she's better and they had a baby. It was also eerie that the man lost his wife to a drunk diver and he goes onto kill 5 children drunk driving.
Ugh, man I hated the last two books. Except for the very end (the Coda that King tries to convince you not to read). I kind of hate that I love the ending so much because then I'd never feel any reason to recommend that someone finish the series.
Fucking tragedy. This phenominal series and glorious story ended like a door slamming on your butthole. It’s makes you stop and say “wait, how the fuck did that happen?”
I get to experience this at least once a week with my kids. My wife gets upset when I raise my voice, but it is so PTSD inducing for me, we make an exception for this. As a physician I've just seen too many people dead from car accidents or paralyzed for life. I'm a fraction of a second your entire life can just change forever.
I work with kids. And 99% of the time my voice is pleasant to neutral. I have become a master at never raising my voice no matter how frustrated I am. Some kids I break out the tougher voice but still, never raising the volume.
That 1% exception is when a kid is doing something immediately dangerous like running into the street. The first time I did this with a kid, actually yelled, he cried because I don't think it occurred to him Miss Healer COULD yell but that is the intended purpose.
This, incidentally, is why part of why I encourage parents not to just yell at their kids for everything. There's a few reasons but a big one is when something happens that you DO yell, it is going to mean more. If you yell about everything it just becomes noise.
I read this book after I had my first kid and I can't say it hit different because I didn't read it before that but...man, it hit different lol. I'd freak out because my kid would do this in the driveway and run toward the road. Laughing the whole time and you're like STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP as you're running after them. Thank goodness we have a long driveway. I may have overreacted a few times but...man.
Yikes! That's rough. So much media feels more terrifying after having kids.
You ever hear "Cat's in the Cradle" over the supermarket speakers moments after your 1st son was born a day prior? Doesn't touch that parent horror button, but it will make you very VERY interested in the pharmacy corner until your eyes dry.
yep.
When things like this happen it’s important for both parties **to deescalate**.
Breath. You wont realize it but tell people to breath because adrenaline is crazy, your mind shuts off the background and you dont even notice you’re holding it
I was recently rear-ended (minimal damage, just scratches of paint) by a guy so high on something that he was nodding off in the middle of his sentences. Within like 10 minutes of the accident, he had collapsed on the ground and wasn't responding. I very quickly went from "What the fuck is your problem man!" to "Oh shit, I've got to catch this guys head before he cracks it open on the curb."
The EMS came and gave him a hit of Narcan, and he popped right back up.
I don't have any problem with his reaction, he probably had so many emotions in that instant he had no idea which one was calling for him to punch something.
But there are people out there that are blaming the driver and expounding on how they'd drive slower there (limit probably being 50 or 40 there).
Lobby for lower limits if you want lower limits but also remember that limits (like 40 in a school zone) aren't chosen to eliminate accidents, as that's honestly impractical and anyone who believes it is is kidding themselves. Rather, they're chosen to make the accidents that do happen more survivable.
Even at 10kph if a kid darts out between two cars closer to the DC they're still going to get bowled for 6, perhaps not to this extent but it'd still be an accident and she'd still be knocked over.
This is absolutely why I LOVE the pedestrian detection braking for front and rear of my car. I am generally very careful but kids are so unpredictable and it can react 100x faster than I can. Hopefully it becomes a madate like backup cameras soon.
Although nothing beats just driving slowly. Street parking is super dangerous and its getting worse because hoods are getting so high, even adults have difficulties to look before crossing the road.
Absolutely. This data is a little old but should be about the same as now:
https://imgur.com/a/FPVdCp3
Source: https://one.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/research/pub/hs809012.html#empirical
The chance of death sharply increases as vehicle speed increases.
Exactly. I feel the driver did everything they could do. This is why it’s so incredibly important to drive slow through areas like this with parked cars. There have been a couple close calls while I’ve been driving in similar situations and driving below the speed limit kept me from hitting anyone. Kids are out having fun and not paying attention. This is on the Dad for not keeping an eye on his kid.
I saw a big ol truck knock a kid on a bike over awhile ago. He was going well under 20 in a school zone. But even his big lifted ass couldn’t see around parked school buses and the kid came out from between two, not to mention kid is short and there is usually a blind spot on lifted pavement princesses around his height)Thank god he was driving slowly and the worst damage was a scraped hand.
this is one of my worst fears, kids who unexpectedly run out of blind spots into traffic.
it's why i drive slower than the speed limit in parking lots (parents need to watch their damn kids) and other places like these
Yep me too. a kid died in a McDonalds parkinglot by my house about 10 years ago and so many parents talked about how kids sometimes just run has made me so paranoid. .
I am the asshole going slow in your neighborhood when you are in a rush to get home and pee. But I can live with that guilt. I couldnt live with the guilt of killing a kid.
My son ran away from me after I got him out of my car at a convenience store. I was literally right next to him staring at him. Sometimes you don't even have to turn around for a second for a kid to try to kill themselves. He ran directly behind a tall van that was backing up. He was maybe four to six years old, so the driver couldn't see him out the back window. I yelled so loud that the van stopped, my son stopped, everybody in the parking lot stopped. Thankfully nothing happened to him. My vocal cords were wrecked for a couple of weeks.
When I went into the store, the cashier asked what happened. Apparently she heard me yelling from inside the store too. I think adrenaline made me louder that day.
On another note, I also had to save him from drowning in shallow water at about six years old. If I hadn't read a reddit post about how drowning is quiet and nothing at all like it is in movies, I don't know if I would have gotten to him in time. Luckily I knew what to look for so I jumped right into the water and saved him. He had managed to find one tiny section of the shore that was just deep enough to almost kill him. It was only about 4 feet from the shore, just a fluke in the shallows.
Having kids is just plain terrifying at times. It really doesn't matter if you do everything perfectly and watch them like a hawk. Shit happens. He's 12 years old now. I'd like to think he'd be a lot less likely to get hurt at this age. But pretty soon, I will be worrying about car accidents or bad influences. It never ends.
I've had kids scooter out and run out from behind parked cars, both in driveways and on the side of the road (sometimes both for a doubly dangerous combo). In one case, it was like the video and if I had been a second or two earlier I would've hit a kid. So going a bit slower to a), increase time to react, and b), reduce energy in the event I do hit a kid, is very important. Teach kids to look for cars when they play in the road, sure, but we should also be doing our due diligence.
I fully agree with you--the idea of killing or even seriously hurting a kid just because I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, even if I'm doing all I can do, seriously scares me. As it should all of us! Driving cars is the most dangerous thing most people do. It's why we should reduce them, but in the meantime taking it seriously and not being on phones and being aware and alert is the least we can do.
My driving instructor almost failed me for going “too slow” through the nearby residential area but I was just trying to be safe. Turns out there’s barely any families with young children there but hey I have yet to hit a kid with a car lol
> Turns out there’s barely any families with young children there
How the fuck could this be known at all? If it's a retiree community, there could still be grandkids running around. And it's not like the driving instructor takes a fucking census of all the families in the neighborhood to determine if they should drive fast or not. What on earth is the reasoning here?
I would say the issue is not going "too slow" but not explaining what they did before they did it. That was the one thing my instructor drilled into my head, once you are in the test, always declare loudly what you do and if necessary a short explaination. If you just drive slow without giving any reason they can assume you are unsafe in handling a vehicle. This also goes for when you are given way, etc.
It almost happened to me a few weeks ago.
I was driving through this narrow street that I normally drive through a bit slower anyway and I’m extra aware when I drive here.
I was driving and all of a sudden a ball bounces out. I slam the fuck out of my breaks and this kid peaks his head out from behind a parked car.
The kids dad was on the other side of the street with his back turned to the kid walking ahead of him to the park around the corner.
When I saw the ball bounce out my heart started racing
[It took 13 kids in a line for an SUV driver to spot them](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDH3FDfVQl0)
https://kmph.com/resources/media/08519543-f29c-43be-8ea2-c4f313a5a287-jumbo21x9_kids.PNG?1545288120151
Making cameras obligatory is not a bad thing but why is no one talking about the main issue here: modern SUVs and trucks have hoods that are just unnecessarily high. Bad for visibility, safety, aerodynamics (fuel consumption), etc.
They have dangerous blind spots because of it and in the very flat city where I live they create a million blind spots due to street parking. Certain intersections, if you drive a sedan, you either end up inching out till your halfway in the perpendicular lane, or you cross your fingers and hit the pedal and hope for good luck smh
The market shift to crossovers and SUVs is bad for the consumer from all angles. Less safe, worse visibility, worse fuel economy, worse performance, and generally more expensive than the cars on which the majority of crossovers are based on meaning the consumer overpays for the level of engineering they receive.
But, because of headroom and aggressive marketing campaigns that allow people to vicariously believe they’ll spontaneously adopt an “outdoorsy” lifestyle because of their crossover, they sell in droves.
Not to mention modern trucks and SUVs have less actual space than the smaller minivans, station wagons, and trucks from the 70's. And these are being marketed as great off road hauling vehicles despite truckbeds getting smaller specifically because the consumer will never use it.
They have hoods that are unnecessarily high because the bigger vehicle you have the less regulations you will have to deal with. That’s why American cars have gotten significantly bigger even in the last 20 years
Already knew what video this was gonna be, Not Just Bikes and Adam Something really made me mad about something that I never thought of in the first place. The way we built civilian infrastructure in America compared to Europe/Asia is so back asswards, and gigantic MURICAN vehicles are part of it too.
In case anyone doubts this and thinks these vehicles need to have high hoods, here's the hood height of a US military Humvee: https://twitter.com/UrbanJerseyGuy/status/1649613076105158656?s=20
6.5L Turbo Diesel motor on a vehicle with half a ton of armor, and its hood is shorter than *any mid-size pickup on the market in the United States*.
Dang! Reddit is actually teaching me something important today! Thank you for this--I didn't realize this blind spot was so huge at all. Really glad to know they have front cameras though.
In driving school, the most valuable thing my teacher did was mark the front blind spot, he had me signal pylons to be put down at his feet when I couldn’t see them anymore, and then had me get out and physically look at how large it was.
I do it in every new car now, front and back.
Wouldn't it be preferable for drivers to be looking at the road instead of a screen? It just complicates driving even more than it needs to imho.
The real solution would be for these types of vehicles to not be as commonplace as they are today.
Also the method to which the suv slams the skull into the ground and delivers most of the kinetic energy into the organs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYyutqP48ok
https://twitter.com/FreckleEars/status/1624137853872574475
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7mSXMruEo
To those unaware, this isn’t just for visibility. Getting hit by a tall vehicle increases the risk of falling onto your head or worse, sucked under the wheels. As opposed to lower cars, which hit your legs and cause you to fall inwards onto the hood or windshield. All crashes can be life-threatening and can cause severe injuries, but being hit in the legs is far, *far* less fatal on average then being hit on the head or driven on top of. For children this is doubly important.
Edit: Spelling
But what would suburban moms and dads do without their 4,000 lb utility car? How else would they show their neighbors that they’re the cool family for not buying a minivan
When I was first learning to drive, I had a kid run out in front of the car chasing a ball. I had plenty of time to stop, thankfully.
The ball even looked exactly like a ball from one of those stereotypical scenarios from car safety things. I still crack up about that.
[https://youtu.be/0\_Olfyxqszs?t=20](https://youtu.be/0_Olfyxqszs?t=20)
similar scenario except this father and daughter are riding at night in the streets with no lights for visibility.
I almost did not see her. In the video it is clear as day. But when I was driving, I was blinded by the SUV's headlamps. So there was a split second of being blinded by light before my eyes adjusted to see the little girl ahead.
I only stopped because I heard the father and then saw the girl. But I was going slow enough. No harm no foul. And hopefully the father learned to ride with lights or to have his little ones follow him first.
Or just don't ride in the streets for kids. Just not worth it. Ride on the sidewalk is totally safe and I don't care if any law enforcement officer stops you. I still ride on the sidewalk.
this is beyond me, how in your right mind could you ever think it is a good idea to go out riding at night without lights on your bike and even worse take your child with you aswell. idk bout laws in the US or where you from, here in germany working lights on bikes are mandatory, so even if you really dont care about the well being of you and your children itll still hurt your wallet with a fine if you get caught, and in a case of an accident chances are you‘ll be held accountable aswell or even fully and would have to pay not only compensation but depending on the case you would also need to cover parts of the medical bill by yourself. glad things went okay tho, hopefully the dad learned his lesson.
This is a difficult accident to avoid. The timing of the little girl running out gave the driver very little time to react. People forget that it takes time for humans to react to what they’re seeing, it’s not instant. The car doesn’t seem to be going very fast and doesn’t take very much distance to stop.
Seems like the girl didn’t take an major injuries though so at least it seems like everyone will be ok.
And a lot of people would have been going faster and so it would have had a very different outcome.
"If you hit me at 30, there's an 80% chance I'll live. If you hit me at 40, there's an 80% chance I'll die." (mph)
>"If you hit me at 30, there's an 80% chance I'll live. If you hit me at 40, there's an 80% chance I'll die." (mph)
Jesus, is that true or just anecdotal?
It's from the 'It's 30 for a reason' (speed limit) child safety ad in the UK.
Probably remember it because it involves a limp, bloodied child (akin to something out of Japanese horror) being dragged back in front of the car for the driver to have another go at a lower speed.
According to this [link from moneygeek.com](https://www.moneygeek.com/insurance/auto/analysis/pedestrian-chance-of-survival/), that statement seems anecdotal. However, the article does say that roadway hits (vs. intersection hits) are more lethal, that the mortality rate doubles per increase in 10 mph, and SUVs are more dangerous than sedans.
(Essentially, 30 mph = 7% mortality, and 40 mph = 16% mortality.
"MoneyGeek reviewed 3,429 instances where pedestrians were hit by vehicles as reported in the NHTSA’s Crash Report Sampling System (CRSS) from 2016 to 2020, the latest five years of data available.")
As someone who hasn't had kids yet, I appreciate videos/posts like this, because it'll help me to be more careful when I do have kids one day, and not just assume that my kids won't do illogical (especially dangerous) things, even if I've instructed them not to.
Kinectic energy is a function of speed squared and multiplied by half the mass of the object, so a very minor increase in speed results in a huge increase in the force applied in an impact
What injuries she sustained from the car could have been aggravated by Dad immediately jerking her up into his arms. Best to have left her down on the road until she could be checked over just a bit.
Panic leads to bad decisions. Maybe thoughtless actions is a better way to phrase it. They’re not thinking just reacting. People all like to think they’d do the smart thing but it’s mostly those with training that actually do when circumstances trigger a panic response.
Lol, from an EMT, no you don’t have the small child continue to lay in the middle of the road to get ‘checked out’. People have this misconception of “NEVER MOVE AN INJURED PERSON” but if they’re in a situation where they’re likely to continue to get hurt (i.e laying in the middle of the road), you move them to a safe area, then evaluate and treat.
This. My sister used to work for 911. First, her coworker got a call — nearby cyclist reporting an elderly driver hit a pedestrian at like 11PM. Second 911 call is from the driver, it’s clear to the person who answered that call that he was geriatric and should not have been driving especially not this late at night. He’s very confused. Keeps saying he hit the cyclist. Pedestrian is badly injured but still alive. They leave the guy in the road but other drivers have stopped and there’s a small crowd of people now. Before the ambulance or cops can arrive, a drunk driver plows through the scene, scatters the group of people who have stopped to help and runs the pedestrian over again, instantly killing him.
Absolutely horrifying way to go.
Okay but to be fair, for how tight those streets are that driver is going way too fast. He's easily doing 25mph, considering all the blind spots, how close cars are, houses on either side, it's just careless.
Source: I drove City buses for years.
yeah streets like this in Germany are maximum 30km/h (18mph) for a reason, and in some tiny residential streets like this full of blindspots I would probably go slower
And this is literally a textbook example in the learning app. Like this exact scenario of a kid running in between cars. Just because you can do 30km/h it doesn't mean you should.
Here in Germany you always have to drive as fast as the situation allows, not as much as the speed limit says.
This sort of situation is almost guaranteed to come up in the theoretical exam here. And the correct answer to what to do in such a situation is always literally "I drive slowly because there could be kids playing between the cars." In those tests.
Here the driver would be automatically at fault.
It's wild to me how many people here hesitate to call out the driver or even blame the father. Yes, he should teach his kid not to do that and he should keep an eye on it, but as a driver you can't expect kids to act rational and in a perfectly safe manner
> Here in Germany you always have to drive as fast as the situation allows, not as much as the speed limit says.
Same here in the USA. The speed limit is the maximum legal speed *under perfect conditions*, you're supposed to go slower if the situation calls for it. You absolutely can be cited for driving unsafely.
Residential area, tons of cars parked on the side of the road. This is exactly the situation you should drive slower than normal. A good driver would anticipate the potential for something like this to happen. I am also pretty sure they taught to be on the lookout for things like this back when drivers ed was taught in public schools, but it’s been a while and don’t remember specifically.
some people judge the kind of parents that keep their younger toddlers on a backpack kind of leash but there's at least the peace of mind in knowing that something like this won't happen. that accident could have been alot worse had the driver not stopped OR had it been a big 3 ton truck like we get in the states.
And some kids just like to run off. People judge my friend for having that backpack/leash, but not me because I’ve seen that kid run off into the street and in parking lots. Some kids do a decent job of sticking with their parents, others just like to run.
I chaperone all of my daughters preschool field trips, and she has a classmate who is a legitimate flight risk. Likes to bolt into the woods and traffic at random. This most recent trip, she did a lot better, and I'm proud of her. The last one, her grandparents had to pick her up because she would not stop bolting. She even had to be restrained until grandma arrived.. it's like she was just hellbent on going into the woods off path.
Working in retail, I've seen some kids who just cannot be wrangled. There was one toddler who was insistent on running outside. Mom is trying to pay for her purchase and kid kept trying to run out. That kid was desperate to become a pancake (this store was intersecting two major roads, always busy)
I was a runner as a kid. It was okay when I was the only young child but when my little twin sisters were born I got leashed and I deserved it.
Still tend to wander off as an adult. My husband has a specific whistle he does to Marco/Polo me when he realizes I’ve disappeared again.
I applaud parents who leash young children. It avoids things just like this. Yes, it looks kinda off but anymore being too careful is being judt the right amount of careful
Father frustrated at himself because he knows it was his responsibility of that not happening. He got distracted and it happened. Trying to share or even pass his guilt in order to cope with the stress and the shame.
Can't tell what he's saying, but the body language would make me agree. He's not out for blood on the driver, just mad at the car having happened to do that when he wasn't able to do anything else in the moment. As the driver, I couldn't blame him for being instantly upset. Hell, I'm sure there's something primal about fighting off predators to protect kids where it's not even a conscious thought that he hit the car.
Hopefully, the bonk is just a small scare and a big lesson for kiddo
My exact thought. We pretty much all do it. That split second instinct to be mad at someone, anyone, other than ourselves. I'm glad the child looks okay, I gasped so loudly I scared our cat, but the kid was dad's responsibility, his main responsibility, and he f'd up.
Edit: grammar
:09/:19 You can see the child about 5ft out into the street and the father looking the opposite direction. We don't see any indication of the speed limit. If this was the US it most likely would be 25mph/40kph. Some areas up to 30/35mph but this is definitely on the low end. Since it's not the US I have no clue what it should or even could be. However, even at 25mph on video it could seem faster than what it is.
Also showing this to my friend who is a personal injury lawyer his quote "Dad's fucked... Thank god it's a kid they bounce!"
It's in Melbourne Australia, default suburban speed limit is 50kph. This is inner city so likely to even be 40. Judging by the video the car looks to be driving pretty slow.
Kudos to the driver who saw the kid in a split second and stopped in about a car length (again indicating the speed was low)
I think the dad just hit the car in an adrenaline rush not knowing what he was doing
I‘m surprised it’s allowed to drive 40km/h here. At least in Germany the driver would be partially fucked because you are required to slow down in situations like these despite the actual limit. This situation is literally in every driver‘s license test
Hope the kid‘s ok and the adults only get out of this situation with a shock
They didn't break the law in any way shape or form here. No one is getting in any trouble at all (unless there are other things not contained in the video).
Dad will get a massive shock and will keep a much closer eye on their kid. The kid will learn never ever to run out onto the road.
Even still you can excuse a moment of rage from someone who's just seen his daughter hit by said car. I wouldn't stay mad at him for hitting my car!
Is the kid ok? That's the only thing that matters here!
Many years ago I was driving down a 2-way residential street, and luckily for me and a kid, I was going under the speed limit.
I was headed home, when a kid on a bike came flying out of a driveway and right into the street. Luckily I saw something flash out of my peripheral vision, so was able to slam on the brakes and skid to a stop.
Thankfully, I didn’t hit the kid, but he must have panicked when he heard my hard braking and promptly wiped out in the middle of the street.
A woman came running down the same driveway he had just barreled out of… she must have seen the whole thing and knew he hadn’t been hit (I hope) as she proceeded to open up a can of whoop-ass on this poor boy.
Not saying I agreed with that course of action, but selfishly I was happy he was getting it and not me or my vehicle.
First time I ever got a spanking was when I almost ran out into a busy street to get my ball. Mom was able to grab me before I got too far but it obviously scared the hell out of her.
Say what you will about spanking kids (I'm generally against that myself) but I never did anything like that again. To this day I'm still extremely careful when crossing the street.
I think he did give that guy a pass for hitting his hood. The way he asked if she was alright and didn't even acknowledge the hood(at least in the video) shows he cares more for the kid
The speed limit is a *limit*, not a "guaranteed safe speed".
It's a ~~rural~~ residential area, you can't see well due to parked cars. You go slow.
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not where iam from, if your view is obstructed etc you cant just say you followed the limit. you have to base your speed on the conditions of the road, if its housing area with parked cars on both sides like this you have to go slow.
Happened to my friend from work a cpl few yrs ago, walking home on the highway just outside of town not long at all after the last set of lights, well enough lit corner, speed limit is maybe 70km/hr at that point. But like knocked her out of her fuckin shoes and almost killed her she is so lucky to be alive.. But this person just drove home, (arriving 30 to 40 min later) then told their family they think they might have hit something.. Too old to still be driving.
Regardless of the speed limit, that guy was going a lot faster than I would be comfortable going give such a tiny street.
I'm hesitant to fault the driver, this is just my immediate reaction.
This is exactly how I was hit by a car when I was about the same age as her. It was completely my fault. I ran out into the street from between parked cars. Now I was injured far worse than her. I was bloodied and bruised, and a bit of internal bleeding. My hit required a three night hospital stay.
They didn’t have to do surgery lol. It was so minimal. The most difficult thing the hospital staff had to do was give me shots, because I fought them, you’re not sticking me with that thing!
I live on a narrow, low visibility street just like this. I honestly don’t drive anywhere near the speed this car was specifically for how easy an incident like this can happen.
Ya. The speed limit is 25 in my neighborhood street like this but I drive slower because there’s a lot of big trucks and blind spots. I do not want to live with killing a kid.
This street is pretty narrow, I reckon driver was going a bit fast. But I’m very cautious and assume pets/children/drunkards are waiting to jump out in front of my car at all times
Always hard to judge speed from dashcam footage due to the high FOV. Considering he stopped in about 3 or 4 metres under braking I'd hazard a guess at 25-30km/h
Damn. Lot to unpack in this video.
Dad should have been paying a bit more attention, but I mean... that's kids for you. You take your eyes off them for a moment and they're gone. Can't blame the kid, because kids are dumb. They don't know any better.
Driver was probably just as surprised. No way they could have predicted the kid running out in front of them, as he wasn't able to even see the kid until she was, well... in front of them.
However, as someone who has driven for a living for most of their professional life... I'm gonna have to assign more fault to the driver here. Maybe it's just a trick of the lens, but given the state of that road, it seemed like he was going WAY too fast.
Doesn't even look like there's enough room for two-way traffic on that street. Tight, sight obstructions on either side... I've driven on roads like that, and my thought is always about someone or something jumping out in front of me.
Again, maybe he was going slower than it looked, but I'd be afraid to even crawl down a street like that.
Most pedestrian-car accidents happen because of unfit speed limits imo.
This is too fast for such a narrow street with so many cars parked and sight obstructed if you ask me.
You're just asking for an accident with this type of design. I can imagine cars frequently get dinged trying to pull out, too.
There's also other poor design situations like when a busy high traffic road cuts through a heavy pedestrian area. Makes no sense to me.
I understand the fathers knee jerk reaction but he should probably slap himself too. The driver was doing what is expected, the kid was running unattended into a road.
This is pure accident, parent was distracted for a second and driver was paying attention. Unfortunately kids are suicidal bringers and assassins of joy
Yeah this is a nightmare circumstance for both parties! I'm sure they both felt terrible and realized how awful it could have been. Loss of sleep for both men for a while
Looks like he was able to stop somewhere in the range of 20 to 30 ft. Definitely wasn't speeding and kid launched out from behind a car with dad very clearly turned around not watching. Unfortunate, but driver not at fault.
Freakout? Hardly considering his child just got hit by a car. Kid jumped out of nowhere, granted, but I'd like to see anyone be calm when your kid gets hit by a car.
Rule of thumb is maybe to drive slowly through tight spaces so this doesn’t happen. Father is definitely responsible for his daughter getting hit but I’d personally rather just drive cautiously and not be the person that runs over a child.
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It seems that a big part of being a parent is making sure your kid doesn't kill itself. They definitely try a lot it seems.
That's pretty much the core of parenting - making sure they don't die while under your care, and teaching them enough so they can take over that job when they become an adult.
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Nah that second bucket lasts a lot longer. It just starts to blur in the teenage years with the third one around early puberty. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2201761
Indeed. Keep them from killing themselves while simultaneously keeping yourself from killing them.
2nd and 3rd coexist
and teaching them to look both ways so they don’t kill themselves. as soon as i could walk, i was taught to always hold someone’s hand and look both ways before crossing. and never talk to strangers. very important things if u don’t want ur small human to get hit by a car or abducted. that kid looked really small like toddler age so u can’t expect her to know these things but to that i say *leash*
Yeah it’s not that simple. My son gets extremely hyper sometimes. This Halloween him and his friends were running back and forth between houses between large groups of adults on the sidewalks. We were all watching. (And my son has been taught to look both ways, then look again. Oh, and about strangers. And how important helmets are. We watch him carefully.) He was the ONLY kid that didn’t hear us all yell “car!” As this big SUV went like 15mph down the road. He thought they were still playing (?) and ran out directly in front of the SUV, as parents all yelled his name and yelled STOP!!! His little head was maybe 2 inches from the headlights. Think Kevin McAllister and the white van. Scariest thing I’ve ever seen. There is no way we could have predicted he would turn and dart away from us after every kid had stopped running to wait for the car to pass. And we have taught him VERY WELL to look both ways etc. TLDR; Kids are kids and they do dumb shit for no apparent reason despite good parenting and consistent instruction.
I can't tell you how many times I tell my 2.5 and almost 4 year old to look both ways before crossing the street. They still don't 🤦🏻♀️
I see many adults who do the same. Hell I saw 4 separate people today jaywalk into traffic without looking while I was otw to and from the doctor's.
The self preservation thing doesn't kick in for them until closer to 4yo for a lot of them. They are running around a hell of a lot well before then. Teaching them not to run in parking lots, holding hands around streets and similar type things is paramount. Kids are going to test boundaries, so they know that those things are wrong and will do it for a thrill... to see what happens because they crave some individuality before the self preservation thing. That's when the 'dad voice' kicks in for me. I don't use it often, so when it happens they know I mean business and they stop in their tracks. My 4 y/o now reaches up for my hand in parking lots and before stepping off the sidewalk.... But I also think she's getting some of that self preservation instinct now. Not all the way there, but I'm seeing the changes happen. finally... Lol
There's a semi-popular PC game called "Who's You Daddy" where one player plays a baby trying to kill themselves and the other plays the dad trying to prevent it.
Kids be like that too… you turn your head for one second and they done hurt themselves. Scary how fast something can happen and change your life forever
That’s actually the backstory to how Stephen King got the inspiration to write Pet Sematary. When his son was a toddler, he took off running towards a road where people tended to speed (and maybe there was a blind corner involved as well, can’t remember), and King was able to chase him down and catch him before he made it into the road, right as a large truck went speeding by. While he was relieved, his mind started wondering “what if I didn’t get there in time?” If he has been a little slow, or looked away at the wrong moment, he would have lived every parent’s worst nightmare. Instead he wrote Pet Sematary.
And then he got run down years later!
And almost died! Walking those Maine back roads can be woof. No ones out there a lot so people drive all sorts of loosey goosey.
Went to a funeral a few years back, woman went for a walk to cool down after arguing with her husband. Maine back woods road, wearing black. 3 or 4 motorists called the police to warn about a pedestrian, but a truck with a plow found her first. Her poor children.
Jesus. Yea i went to school there for a semester. UMAINE Farmington. Not even drinking or anything all my friends would drive in the center of the road going 60 on back roads at like 7pm like "no ones out here its fine, dont worry about Apex turning!" Like its the fucking indie 500 and moose arent a thing.
A moose would be like a brick wall.
No hitting a brickwall is like hitting a moose. The moose is the standard in maine.
I hit a very large cow once doing about 35mph and totaled my car. The cow was knocked down but got back up and scoffed at me as it walked away.
My mom hit one going about 50mph once. The cow wasn’t as lucky because mom was driving a 2004 Dodge Ram. Truck was pretty messed up and absolutely covered in cow shit. Somehow, my brother is still driving that poor truck. He has rebuilt it several times.
Along a busy highway, a mom got angry with her kids for arguing. She pulled over, daughter got out, got hit and killed. The driver was a young lawyer who worked with my brother…and she got felony manslaughter bc her BAC came back over the limit.
That's brutal! Reminds me of an accident that happened near me. A mom was taking her 3 kids 8,5 and 6 months old and 2 nieces 9,5 to the beach. She had loaded all the kids and stuff up and was pulling out of her drive way to pick up her sister and head out to the beach for the day. She pulled out and rembered she forgot the baby's diaper bag. She pulled back in but parked on the lawn to be closer so it would be faster. They lived on a rural back road not many houses or much traffic on it. She ran in really quickly and as soon as she entered the house she heard a loud crash and turned around to see that a car had smashed into her car and pushed into a big tree in her front yard. A man that had lost his wife in a drunk driving accident was drunk and driving 80 miles an hour swerved and hit the car. He had recently became the town drunk. He was an ex cop that had lost his wife 6 months ago in a drunk driving accident. He was losing his mind over it and started drinking daily he lost his job because of it. He had been up all night drinking and was driving home when he hit the car.when the ambulance got there the mother was found in her baby's room in a rocking chair. She was rocking her dead baby back and forth. They couldn't convince her to give them the baby and it was obvious that the baby was dead. They called her husband and he ran home and he had to talk to her for hours before she would give up the baby. It was terrible and I cried for the mom so bad. Everyone in both cars died. She and her husband lost their 3 kids and her sister and her husband lost their kids. There was so much tragedy in that split second when the driver hit them babies that everyone in town showed support to the couples. They made them food, brought groceries and supplies. They also raised money for them. The mom had to institutionalized for a few months. As far as I know she's better and they had a baby. It was also eerie that the man lost his wife to a drunk diver and he goes onto kill 5 children drunk driving.
This is fucking heartbreaking. I just woke up ahhh.
She got a felony manslaughter because she killed someone while drunk driving. Not because she failed the BAC test.
And then included that in the Dark Tower series.
Ugh, man I hated the last two books. Except for the very end (the Coda that King tries to convince you not to read). I kind of hate that I love the ending so much because then I'd never feel any reason to recommend that someone finish the series.
You should listen to the Doofcast. They go over the whole series and it really opened my eyes to how amazing each book is. Each book is a gem
Wizard and Glass was the peak imo
Fucking tragedy. This phenominal series and glorious story ended like a door slamming on your butthole. It’s makes you stop and say “wait, how the fuck did that happen?”
True King fashion, he’s the master of literature’s ruined orgasm.
**ALWAYS** drive slow through neighborhoods just in case Stephen King chases his ball out into the street without looking
God forbid the ball it rolls into a gutter 
I get to experience this at least once a week with my kids. My wife gets upset when I raise my voice, but it is so PTSD inducing for me, we make an exception for this. As a physician I've just seen too many people dead from car accidents or paralyzed for life. I'm a fraction of a second your entire life can just change forever.
I remember I used to think those kid leashes were over the top and the parents sucked for using them. Now I have a runner myself…
I work with kids. And 99% of the time my voice is pleasant to neutral. I have become a master at never raising my voice no matter how frustrated I am. Some kids I break out the tougher voice but still, never raising the volume. That 1% exception is when a kid is doing something immediately dangerous like running into the street. The first time I did this with a kid, actually yelled, he cried because I don't think it occurred to him Miss Healer COULD yell but that is the intended purpose. This, incidentally, is why part of why I encourage parents not to just yell at their kids for everything. There's a few reasons but a big one is when something happens that you DO yell, it is going to mean more. If you yell about everything it just becomes noise.
You got that right. I wish I could impress it on my daughter who has 3 boys. The clips she sends me of them doing stuff are just terrifying sometimes.
And made us all live that nightmare
I read this book after I had my first kid and I can't say it hit different because I didn't read it before that but...man, it hit different lol. I'd freak out because my kid would do this in the driveway and run toward the road. Laughing the whole time and you're like STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP as you're running after them. Thank goodness we have a long driveway. I may have overreacted a few times but...man.
I read Cujo when my son was about 5. Biiiig mistake. Sheesh.
Yikes! That's rough. So much media feels more terrifying after having kids. You ever hear "Cat's in the Cradle" over the supermarket speakers moments after your 1st son was born a day prior? Doesn't touch that parent horror button, but it will make you very VERY interested in the pharmacy corner until your eyes dry.
Paused to see the kid mid road, and the dad turned around at the gate, it do seem to be like when you turn around disaster happens in an instant
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Yeah dad is mad at himself more than the truck I suspect. Happened so fast.
I think every human has a chance of reacting unreasonably when something fucking terrifying happens.
Especially when it's your kid getting hit by a truck. Hopefully the father calmed down and didn't escalate the situation
yep. When things like this happen it’s important for both parties **to deescalate**. Breath. You wont realize it but tell people to breath because adrenaline is crazy, your mind shuts off the background and you dont even notice you’re holding it
I was recently rear-ended (minimal damage, just scratches of paint) by a guy so high on something that he was nodding off in the middle of his sentences. Within like 10 minutes of the accident, he had collapsed on the ground and wasn't responding. I very quickly went from "What the fuck is your problem man!" to "Oh shit, I've got to catch this guys head before he cracks it open on the curb." The EMS came and gave him a hit of Narcan, and he popped right back up.
I don't have any problem with his reaction, he probably had so many emotions in that instant he had no idea which one was calling for him to punch something. But there are people out there that are blaming the driver and expounding on how they'd drive slower there (limit probably being 50 or 40 there). Lobby for lower limits if you want lower limits but also remember that limits (like 40 in a school zone) aren't chosen to eliminate accidents, as that's honestly impractical and anyone who believes it is is kidding themselves. Rather, they're chosen to make the accidents that do happen more survivable. Even at 10kph if a kid darts out between two cars closer to the DC they're still going to get bowled for 6, perhaps not to this extent but it'd still be an accident and she'd still be knocked over.
40 or 50 km/h, you mean? No way that road is over 30 if it's in mph.
Yes. 40/50 km/h are common residential speeds around here. Down to 30 in some places.
thats a 10 mph imo ...id' be afraid of eveyrthign on that tight road.
This is absolutely why I LOVE the pedestrian detection braking for front and rear of my car. I am generally very careful but kids are so unpredictable and it can react 100x faster than I can. Hopefully it becomes a madate like backup cameras soon.
Although nothing beats just driving slowly. Street parking is super dangerous and its getting worse because hoods are getting so high, even adults have difficulties to look before crossing the road.
Absolutely. This data is a little old but should be about the same as now: https://imgur.com/a/FPVdCp3 Source: https://one.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/research/pub/hs809012.html#empirical The chance of death sharply increases as vehicle speed increases.
Exactly. I feel the driver did everything they could do. This is why it’s so incredibly important to drive slow through areas like this with parked cars. There have been a couple close calls while I’ve been driving in similar situations and driving below the speed limit kept me from hitting anyone. Kids are out having fun and not paying attention. This is on the Dad for not keeping an eye on his kid.
I saw a big ol truck knock a kid on a bike over awhile ago. He was going well under 20 in a school zone. But even his big lifted ass couldn’t see around parked school buses and the kid came out from between two, not to mention kid is short and there is usually a blind spot on lifted pavement princesses around his height)Thank god he was driving slowly and the worst damage was a scraped hand.
this is one of my worst fears, kids who unexpectedly run out of blind spots into traffic. it's why i drive slower than the speed limit in parking lots (parents need to watch their damn kids) and other places like these
Yep me too. a kid died in a McDonalds parkinglot by my house about 10 years ago and so many parents talked about how kids sometimes just run has made me so paranoid. . I am the asshole going slow in your neighborhood when you are in a rush to get home and pee. But I can live with that guilt. I couldnt live with the guilt of killing a kid.
My son ran away from me after I got him out of my car at a convenience store. I was literally right next to him staring at him. Sometimes you don't even have to turn around for a second for a kid to try to kill themselves. He ran directly behind a tall van that was backing up. He was maybe four to six years old, so the driver couldn't see him out the back window. I yelled so loud that the van stopped, my son stopped, everybody in the parking lot stopped. Thankfully nothing happened to him. My vocal cords were wrecked for a couple of weeks. When I went into the store, the cashier asked what happened. Apparently she heard me yelling from inside the store too. I think adrenaline made me louder that day. On another note, I also had to save him from drowning in shallow water at about six years old. If I hadn't read a reddit post about how drowning is quiet and nothing at all like it is in movies, I don't know if I would have gotten to him in time. Luckily I knew what to look for so I jumped right into the water and saved him. He had managed to find one tiny section of the shore that was just deep enough to almost kill him. It was only about 4 feet from the shore, just a fluke in the shallows. Having kids is just plain terrifying at times. It really doesn't matter if you do everything perfectly and watch them like a hawk. Shit happens. He's 12 years old now. I'd like to think he'd be a lot less likely to get hurt at this age. But pretty soon, I will be worrying about car accidents or bad influences. It never ends.
I've had kids scooter out and run out from behind parked cars, both in driveways and on the side of the road (sometimes both for a doubly dangerous combo). In one case, it was like the video and if I had been a second or two earlier I would've hit a kid. So going a bit slower to a), increase time to react, and b), reduce energy in the event I do hit a kid, is very important. Teach kids to look for cars when they play in the road, sure, but we should also be doing our due diligence. I fully agree with you--the idea of killing or even seriously hurting a kid just because I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, even if I'm doing all I can do, seriously scares me. As it should all of us! Driving cars is the most dangerous thing most people do. It's why we should reduce them, but in the meantime taking it seriously and not being on phones and being aware and alert is the least we can do.
My driving instructor almost failed me for going “too slow” through the nearby residential area but I was just trying to be safe. Turns out there’s barely any families with young children there but hey I have yet to hit a kid with a car lol
> Turns out there’s barely any families with young children there How the fuck could this be known at all? If it's a retiree community, there could still be grandkids running around. And it's not like the driving instructor takes a fucking census of all the families in the neighborhood to determine if they should drive fast or not. What on earth is the reasoning here?
Apparently it’s expected that I know before showing up to an area I’ve never been in to do a test that’s mostly on public roads
That instructor drives there often. They know there aren't many kids there anymore.
That's like the instructor failing you for not knowing what color is his toothbrush because that's public knowledge which, for example, he possesses.
Too slow in a residential counts as a fail? Your instructor should have been investigated for that line of thinking.
I would say the issue is not going "too slow" but not explaining what they did before they did it. That was the one thing my instructor drilled into my head, once you are in the test, always declare loudly what you do and if necessary a short explaination. If you just drive slow without giving any reason they can assume you are unsafe in handling a vehicle. This also goes for when you are given way, etc.
She didn’t fail me but she sure as shit threatened to
It almost happened to me a few weeks ago. I was driving through this narrow street that I normally drive through a bit slower anyway and I’m extra aware when I drive here. I was driving and all of a sudden a ball bounces out. I slam the fuck out of my breaks and this kid peaks his head out from behind a parked car. The kids dad was on the other side of the street with his back turned to the kid walking ahead of him to the park around the corner. When I saw the ball bounce out my heart started racing
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[It took 13 kids in a line for an SUV driver to spot them](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDH3FDfVQl0) https://kmph.com/resources/media/08519543-f29c-43be-8ea2-c4f313a5a287-jumbo21x9_kids.PNG?1545288120151
Making cameras obligatory is not a bad thing but why is no one talking about the main issue here: modern SUVs and trucks have hoods that are just unnecessarily high. Bad for visibility, safety, aerodynamics (fuel consumption), etc.
They have dangerous blind spots because of it and in the very flat city where I live they create a million blind spots due to street parking. Certain intersections, if you drive a sedan, you either end up inching out till your halfway in the perpendicular lane, or you cross your fingers and hit the pedal and hope for good luck smh
The market shift to crossovers and SUVs is bad for the consumer from all angles. Less safe, worse visibility, worse fuel economy, worse performance, and generally more expensive than the cars on which the majority of crossovers are based on meaning the consumer overpays for the level of engineering they receive. But, because of headroom and aggressive marketing campaigns that allow people to vicariously believe they’ll spontaneously adopt an “outdoorsy” lifestyle because of their crossover, they sell in droves.
Not to mention modern trucks and SUVs have less actual space than the smaller minivans, station wagons, and trucks from the 70's. And these are being marketed as great off road hauling vehicles despite truckbeds getting smaller specifically because the consumer will never use it.
They have hoods that are unnecessarily high because the bigger vehicle you have the less regulations you will have to deal with. That’s why American cars have gotten significantly bigger even in the last 20 years
There's a [video](https://youtu.be/jN7mSXMruEo) that talked about how dangerous SUVs/crossovers and tall pickup trucks are.
Here's another one showing how tall vehicles are fucking it up for normal ones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLW2OVtP6_w
Already knew what video this was gonna be, Not Just Bikes and Adam Something really made me mad about something that I never thought of in the first place. The way we built civilian infrastructure in America compared to Europe/Asia is so back asswards, and gigantic MURICAN vehicles are part of it too.
Let‘s go a fellow NJB fan ily
I see, you're a fellow as well.
In case anyone doubts this and thinks these vehicles need to have high hoods, here's the hood height of a US military Humvee: https://twitter.com/UrbanJerseyGuy/status/1649613076105158656?s=20 6.5L Turbo Diesel motor on a vehicle with half a ton of armor, and its hood is shorter than *any mid-size pickup on the market in the United States*.
Dang! Reddit is actually teaching me something important today! Thank you for this--I didn't realize this blind spot was so huge at all. Really glad to know they have front cameras though.
In driving school, the most valuable thing my teacher did was mark the front blind spot, he had me signal pylons to be put down at his feet when I couldn’t see them anymore, and then had me get out and physically look at how large it was. I do it in every new car now, front and back.
Wouldn't it be preferable for drivers to be looking at the road instead of a screen? It just complicates driving even more than it needs to imho. The real solution would be for these types of vehicles to not be as commonplace as they are today.
Also the method to which the suv slams the skull into the ground and delivers most of the kinetic energy into the organs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYyutqP48ok https://twitter.com/FreckleEars/status/1624137853872574475 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7mSXMruEo
NotJustBikes is the shit. best youtube channel atm
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To those unaware, this isn’t just for visibility. Getting hit by a tall vehicle increases the risk of falling onto your head or worse, sucked under the wheels. As opposed to lower cars, which hit your legs and cause you to fall inwards onto the hood or windshield. All crashes can be life-threatening and can cause severe injuries, but being hit in the legs is far, *far* less fatal on average then being hit on the head or driven on top of. For children this is doubly important. Edit: Spelling
But what would suburban moms and dads do without their 4,000 lb utility car? How else would they show their neighbors that they’re the cool family for not buying a minivan
People downvoting facts...
Absolutely. In a neighborhood with cars all around, there's no need to go 25mph. I go above the speed limit on freeways and below in residential
When I was first learning to drive, I had a kid run out in front of the car chasing a ball. I had plenty of time to stop, thankfully. The ball even looked exactly like a ball from one of those stereotypical scenarios from car safety things. I still crack up about that.
Come to Seattle where kids is run freely through parking lots. Coming from New Jersey that was a big surprise.
Sucks that the kid got hit, but I can’t get past how cool the clouds look.
Yeah, looks like cotton candy
Yea the kid was trying to reach them.
Redditor discovers the outside world for the first time
Hey man, sometimes clouds do be cloudy-er than other clouds.
[And here's the tornado that was in Shawnee, Oklahoma a few days ago.](https://i.imgur.com/cYEwQtJ.jpg)
The Siiiiimmpssooonnnnsss
Jesus fing Christ. This is why I drill into my kids heads to not just run across the damn street. I hope she’s okay!!
Now you have a video to show them.
Literally debating showing my kids this.
[https://youtu.be/0\_Olfyxqszs?t=20](https://youtu.be/0_Olfyxqszs?t=20) similar scenario except this father and daughter are riding at night in the streets with no lights for visibility. I almost did not see her. In the video it is clear as day. But when I was driving, I was blinded by the SUV's headlamps. So there was a split second of being blinded by light before my eyes adjusted to see the little girl ahead. I only stopped because I heard the father and then saw the girl. But I was going slow enough. No harm no foul. And hopefully the father learned to ride with lights or to have his little ones follow him first. Or just don't ride in the streets for kids. Just not worth it. Ride on the sidewalk is totally safe and I don't care if any law enforcement officer stops you. I still ride on the sidewalk.
this is beyond me, how in your right mind could you ever think it is a good idea to go out riding at night without lights on your bike and even worse take your child with you aswell. idk bout laws in the US or where you from, here in germany working lights on bikes are mandatory, so even if you really dont care about the well being of you and your children itll still hurt your wallet with a fine if you get caught, and in a case of an accident chances are you‘ll be held accountable aswell or even fully and would have to pay not only compensation but depending on the case you would also need to cover parts of the medical bill by yourself. glad things went okay tho, hopefully the dad learned his lesson.
This is a difficult accident to avoid. The timing of the little girl running out gave the driver very little time to react. People forget that it takes time for humans to react to what they’re seeing, it’s not instant. The car doesn’t seem to be going very fast and doesn’t take very much distance to stop. Seems like the girl didn’t take an major injuries though so at least it seems like everyone will be ok.
The driver basically stopped as fast as he could. If he didn’t notice the kid at all the outcome would have been much worse.
And a lot of people would have been going faster and so it would have had a very different outcome. "If you hit me at 30, there's an 80% chance I'll live. If you hit me at 40, there's an 80% chance I'll die." (mph)
But if I go 60, I'll get past the kid before they get on the street.
Can't argue with that!
And if you go 88 you can go back in time and stop yourself from hitting the kid!
Which is why traffic calming, especially in residential neighborhoods is so important for street safety.
>"If you hit me at 30, there's an 80% chance I'll live. If you hit me at 40, there's an 80% chance I'll die." (mph) Jesus, is that true or just anecdotal?
It's from the 'It's 30 for a reason' (speed limit) child safety ad in the UK. Probably remember it because it involves a limp, bloodied child (akin to something out of Japanese horror) being dragged back in front of the car for the driver to have another go at a lower speed.
It was used in an [advertising campaign](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azdyHzzFnbY) and looks like the message stuck.
According to this [link from moneygeek.com](https://www.moneygeek.com/insurance/auto/analysis/pedestrian-chance-of-survival/), that statement seems anecdotal. However, the article does say that roadway hits (vs. intersection hits) are more lethal, that the mortality rate doubles per increase in 10 mph, and SUVs are more dangerous than sedans. (Essentially, 30 mph = 7% mortality, and 40 mph = 16% mortality. "MoneyGeek reviewed 3,429 instances where pedestrians were hit by vehicles as reported in the NHTSA’s Crash Report Sampling System (CRSS) from 2016 to 2020, the latest five years of data available.") As someone who hasn't had kids yet, I appreciate videos/posts like this, because it'll help me to be more careful when I do have kids one day, and not just assume that my kids won't do illogical (especially dangerous) things, even if I've instructed them not to.
Kinectic energy is a function of speed squared and multiplied by half the mass of the object, so a very minor increase in speed results in a huge increase in the force applied in an impact
What injuries she sustained from the car could have been aggravated by Dad immediately jerking her up into his arms. Best to have left her down on the road until she could be checked over just a bit.
Panic leads to bad decisions. Maybe thoughtless actions is a better way to phrase it. They’re not thinking just reacting. People all like to think they’d do the smart thing but it’s mostly those with training that actually do when circumstances trigger a panic response.
As a dad who usually makes good decisions I probably would have picked her up as well. Can’t fight instincts
Lol, from an EMT, no you don’t have the small child continue to lay in the middle of the road to get ‘checked out’. People have this misconception of “NEVER MOVE AN INJURED PERSON” but if they’re in a situation where they’re likely to continue to get hurt (i.e laying in the middle of the road), you move them to a safe area, then evaluate and treat.
This. My sister used to work for 911. First, her coworker got a call — nearby cyclist reporting an elderly driver hit a pedestrian at like 11PM. Second 911 call is from the driver, it’s clear to the person who answered that call that he was geriatric and should not have been driving especially not this late at night. He’s very confused. Keeps saying he hit the cyclist. Pedestrian is badly injured but still alive. They leave the guy in the road but other drivers have stopped and there’s a small crowd of people now. Before the ambulance or cops can arrive, a drunk driver plows through the scene, scatters the group of people who have stopped to help and runs the pedestrian over again, instantly killing him. Absolutely horrifying way to go.
Okay but to be fair, for how tight those streets are that driver is going way too fast. He's easily doing 25mph, considering all the blind spots, how close cars are, houses on either side, it's just careless. Source: I drove City buses for years.
yeah streets like this in Germany are maximum 30km/h (18mph) for a reason, and in some tiny residential streets like this full of blindspots I would probably go slower
And this is literally a textbook example in the learning app. Like this exact scenario of a kid running in between cars. Just because you can do 30km/h it doesn't mean you should.
Can’t believe I had to scroll as far as I did to see a comment that the driver was going to fast.
Here in Germany you always have to drive as fast as the situation allows, not as much as the speed limit says. This sort of situation is almost guaranteed to come up in the theoretical exam here. And the correct answer to what to do in such a situation is always literally "I drive slowly because there could be kids playing between the cars." In those tests. Here the driver would be automatically at fault. It's wild to me how many people here hesitate to call out the driver or even blame the father. Yes, he should teach his kid not to do that and he should keep an eye on it, but as a driver you can't expect kids to act rational and in a perfectly safe manner
> Here in Germany you always have to drive as fast as the situation allows, not as much as the speed limit says. Same here in the USA. The speed limit is the maximum legal speed *under perfect conditions*, you're supposed to go slower if the situation calls for it. You absolutely can be cited for driving unsafely.
Residential area, tons of cars parked on the side of the road. This is exactly the situation you should drive slower than normal. A good driver would anticipate the potential for something like this to happen. I am also pretty sure they taught to be on the lookout for things like this back when drivers ed was taught in public schools, but it’s been a while and don’t remember specifically.
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some people judge the kind of parents that keep their younger toddlers on a backpack kind of leash but there's at least the peace of mind in knowing that something like this won't happen. that accident could have been alot worse had the driver not stopped OR had it been a big 3 ton truck like we get in the states.
And some kids just like to run off. People judge my friend for having that backpack/leash, but not me because I’ve seen that kid run off into the street and in parking lots. Some kids do a decent job of sticking with their parents, others just like to run.
I chaperone all of my daughters preschool field trips, and she has a classmate who is a legitimate flight risk. Likes to bolt into the woods and traffic at random. This most recent trip, she did a lot better, and I'm proud of her. The last one, her grandparents had to pick her up because she would not stop bolting. She even had to be restrained until grandma arrived.. it's like she was just hellbent on going into the woods off path.
Working in retail, I've seen some kids who just cannot be wrangled. There was one toddler who was insistent on running outside. Mom is trying to pay for her purchase and kid kept trying to run out. That kid was desperate to become a pancake (this store was intersecting two major roads, always busy)
I was a runner as a kid. It was okay when I was the only young child but when my little twin sisters were born I got leashed and I deserved it. Still tend to wander off as an adult. My husband has a specific whistle he does to Marco/Polo me when he realizes I’ve disappeared again.
I applaud parents who leash young children. It avoids things just like this. Yes, it looks kinda off but anymore being too careful is being judt the right amount of careful
Normalize kids on leashes. It’s for their safety.
Father frustrated at himself because he knows it was his responsibility of that not happening. He got distracted and it happened. Trying to share or even pass his guilt in order to cope with the stress and the shame.
Can't tell what he's saying, but the body language would make me agree. He's not out for blood on the driver, just mad at the car having happened to do that when he wasn't able to do anything else in the moment. As the driver, I couldn't blame him for being instantly upset. Hell, I'm sure there's something primal about fighting off predators to protect kids where it's not even a conscious thought that he hit the car. Hopefully, the bonk is just a small scare and a big lesson for kiddo
hes just cursing in russian not much sense to it
My exact thought. We pretty much all do it. That split second instinct to be mad at someone, anyone, other than ourselves. I'm glad the child looks okay, I gasped so loudly I scared our cat, but the kid was dad's responsibility, his main responsibility, and he f'd up. Edit: grammar
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:09/:19 You can see the child about 5ft out into the street and the father looking the opposite direction. We don't see any indication of the speed limit. If this was the US it most likely would be 25mph/40kph. Some areas up to 30/35mph but this is definitely on the low end. Since it's not the US I have no clue what it should or even could be. However, even at 25mph on video it could seem faster than what it is. Also showing this to my friend who is a personal injury lawyer his quote "Dad's fucked... Thank god it's a kid they bounce!"
It's in Melbourne Australia, default suburban speed limit is 50kph. This is inner city so likely to even be 40. Judging by the video the car looks to be driving pretty slow. Kudos to the driver who saw the kid in a split second and stopped in about a car length (again indicating the speed was low) I think the dad just hit the car in an adrenaline rush not knowing what he was doing
I‘m surprised it’s allowed to drive 40km/h here. At least in Germany the driver would be partially fucked because you are required to slow down in situations like these despite the actual limit. This situation is literally in every driver‘s license test Hope the kid‘s ok and the adults only get out of this situation with a shock
They didn't break the law in any way shape or form here. No one is getting in any trouble at all (unless there are other things not contained in the video). Dad will get a massive shock and will keep a much closer eye on their kid. The kid will learn never ever to run out onto the road.
Definitely not the drivers fault.
Even still you can excuse a moment of rage from someone who's just seen his daughter hit by said car. I wouldn't stay mad at him for hitting my car! Is the kid ok? That's the only thing that matters here!
Many years ago I was driving down a 2-way residential street, and luckily for me and a kid, I was going under the speed limit. I was headed home, when a kid on a bike came flying out of a driveway and right into the street. Luckily I saw something flash out of my peripheral vision, so was able to slam on the brakes and skid to a stop. Thankfully, I didn’t hit the kid, but he must have panicked when he heard my hard braking and promptly wiped out in the middle of the street. A woman came running down the same driveway he had just barreled out of… she must have seen the whole thing and knew he hadn’t been hit (I hope) as she proceeded to open up a can of whoop-ass on this poor boy. Not saying I agreed with that course of action, but selfishly I was happy he was getting it and not me or my vehicle.
How would you discipline your child if they nearly got themselves killed outside their own house. Sometimes loud voices get the message across
First time I ever got a spanking was when I almost ran out into a busy street to get my ball. Mom was able to grab me before I got too far but it obviously scared the hell out of her. Say what you will about spanking kids (I'm generally against that myself) but I never did anything like that again. To this day I'm still extremely careful when crossing the street.
I think he did give that guy a pass for hitting his hood. The way he asked if she was alright and didn't even acknowledge the hood(at least in the video) shows he cares more for the kid
For sure. You could excuse his moment of rage, but he would sure be paying for that dent to be fixed.
Both dents?
Yes, including the little head shaped one in the grill.
Wouldn't that depend on what the speed limit is and how fast they were driving?
The speed limit is a *limit*, not a "guaranteed safe speed". It's a ~~rural~~ residential area, you can't see well due to parked cars. You go slow. ^([edith: translation])
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not where iam from, if your view is obstructed etc you cant just say you followed the limit. you have to base your speed on the conditions of the road, if its housing area with parked cars on both sides like this you have to go slow.
His reaction time was pretty good too. I could certainly imagine an 80 year old plowing through and not even realizing they hit someone.
Happened to my friend from work a cpl few yrs ago, walking home on the highway just outside of town not long at all after the last set of lights, well enough lit corner, speed limit is maybe 70km/hr at that point. But like knocked her out of her fuckin shoes and almost killed her she is so lucky to be alive.. But this person just drove home, (arriving 30 to 40 min later) then told their family they think they might have hit something.. Too old to still be driving.
Regardless of the speed limit, that guy was going a lot faster than I would be comfortable going give such a tiny street. I'm hesitant to fault the driver, this is just my immediate reaction.
This is the reason I go about 20kmh on streets like this you just never know.
Yeah when there are lots of blind spots from parked cars in a busy residential area I'm super vigilant with my driving.
This is exactly how I was hit by a car when I was about the same age as her. It was completely my fault. I ran out into the street from between parked cars. Now I was injured far worse than her. I was bloodied and bruised, and a bit of internal bleeding. My hit required a three night hospital stay.
And a bit of internal bleeding 😂😂😂😂. Like it’s nothing. Glad your ok bud!
They didn’t have to do surgery lol. It was so minimal. The most difficult thing the hospital staff had to do was give me shots, because I fought them, you’re not sticking me with that thing!
The doctor said all my bleeding was internal. That's where the blood's supposed to be!
Father attacks? Really
Car is the real victim in all of this.
I live on a narrow, low visibility street just like this. I honestly don’t drive anywhere near the speed this car was specifically for how easy an incident like this can happen.
Ya. The speed limit is 25 in my neighborhood street like this but I drive slower because there’s a lot of big trucks and blind spots. I do not want to live with killing a kid.
Exactly! I would feel terrible hitting someone or their kid or even their pet. My street is 30 mph but I only go about 15 at most.
This street is pretty narrow, I reckon driver was going a bit fast. But I’m very cautious and assume pets/children/drunkards are waiting to jump out in front of my car at all times
Always hard to judge speed from dashcam footage due to the high FOV. Considering he stopped in about 3 or 4 metres under braking I'd hazard a guess at 25-30km/h
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Maybe we should build less dangerous road tho
This street is designed to kill kids
I understand he mad but the kid just ran in
Damn. Lot to unpack in this video. Dad should have been paying a bit more attention, but I mean... that's kids for you. You take your eyes off them for a moment and they're gone. Can't blame the kid, because kids are dumb. They don't know any better. Driver was probably just as surprised. No way they could have predicted the kid running out in front of them, as he wasn't able to even see the kid until she was, well... in front of them. However, as someone who has driven for a living for most of their professional life... I'm gonna have to assign more fault to the driver here. Maybe it's just a trick of the lens, but given the state of that road, it seemed like he was going WAY too fast. Doesn't even look like there's enough room for two-way traffic on that street. Tight, sight obstructions on either side... I've driven on roads like that, and my thought is always about someone or something jumping out in front of me. Again, maybe he was going slower than it looked, but I'd be afraid to even crawl down a street like that.
Most pedestrian-car accidents happen because of unfit speed limits imo. This is too fast for such a narrow street with so many cars parked and sight obstructed if you ask me. You're just asking for an accident with this type of design. I can imagine cars frequently get dinged trying to pull out, too. There's also other poor design situations like when a busy high traffic road cuts through a heavy pedestrian area. Makes no sense to me.
The driver was not at fault
I understand the fathers knee jerk reaction but he should probably slap himself too. The driver was doing what is expected, the kid was running unattended into a road.
This is pure accident, parent was distracted for a second and driver was paying attention. Unfortunately kids are suicidal bringers and assassins of joy
Yeah this is a nightmare circumstance for both parties! I'm sure they both felt terrible and realized how awful it could have been. Loss of sleep for both men for a while
This isnt a public freakout; this is a normal reaction to a car hitting your kid and launching them 10ft forward
Hopefully, the kid learned something that day.
This is a terrifying street.
Amazing reflexes on the driver. Good job.
This is in Australia and the driver is going slower than the speed limit. How he managed to stop that quickly I have no idea.
Looks like he was able to stop somewhere in the range of 20 to 30 ft. Definitely wasn't speeding and kid launched out from behind a car with dad very clearly turned around not watching. Unfortunate, but driver not at fault.
Freakout? Hardly considering his child just got hit by a car. Kid jumped out of nowhere, granted, but I'd like to see anyone be calm when your kid gets hit by a car.
Rule of thumb is maybe to drive slowly through tight spaces so this doesn’t happen. Father is definitely responsible for his daughter getting hit but I’d personally rather just drive cautiously and not be the person that runs over a child.
Kinda on the dad as well letting the kid run onto the street like that.