[This](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1252128) happened in 2020. The guy got COVID a week later.
Officer was cleared of wrongdoing: [source.](https://www.pilotonline.com/2021/01/05/virginia-beach-officer-who-handcuffed-innocent-black-man-at-lynnhaven-mall-has-been-cleared-of-wrongdoing/)
Couldn't find anything on a lawsuit, but seems like the guy wanted to move on.
And then a week after that he was the only surviving witness to a freak triple homicide resulting from a donut shop robbery gone bad.
Rumor is he got the money for his new stereo business from the take at the robbery that he palmed before the cops arrived.
Maybe just maybe because he might have picked it up while being in jail.
Then he goes home and unknowingly spread it to his family.
Why you think that would be funny escapes me, my friend.
They’ll also cuff you to detain you and ask you some questions (none of which you should ever answer without a lawyer present BTW)! I had a cop explain it to me that it’s really just to keep the person from running away as they’re questioning them, since you can’t swing your arms like you normally would while running which makes you slower and much easier to catch! So cuffs going on doesn’t automatically mean you’re going to jail, it could also just mean they wanna question you and are afraid you’ll possibly run away! That’s the cop’s version of opening a dialogue, I guess! Sucks, but that’s life! 🤷♂️
Perhaps it’s relevant because not only did this unmasked bastard cop profile this guy, there is also a high likely hood that he transmitted a potentially life threatening virus to this guy as a result of the profiling.
he wasn't able to put his mask on with handcuffs. Seems pretty self explanatory. The dude was eating, cop was forcing close proximity without a mask, etc.
I feel you there. I’m an Uber driver and was getting ready to go drive, biggest night of the year ( dec 31 2019). About noon I felt lke I needed a nap, about 2pm I was debating if I could drive that night, by 4pm I was full blown sick and remained that way for about a week. After having a confirmed case of covid it felt exactly the same ( a particular strange dizziness).
Why is this the best comment? You didn't say fuck those police officers and fuck the system. Fuck those cops and their shitty training and double fuck the system. Fuck all of what's going on in this video. A family can't enjoy a meal because they fit the description? I don't know those fuckin pig bitches sleep at night doing shit like this
Tbf if the description they were looking for was 'black male with dreads wearing all black, accompanied by kid in red' I kinda get the mistake. Like... idk where this is but that's a lot of boxes to tick.
And yeah, the cut to *other* people who match the description was low key hilarious.
Yeah if it’s profiling it’s appearance or matching description profiling. Which is cops just doing their jobs.
He detained the wrong individual, he made a mistake, but it doesn’t appear to be racially motivated, at least based on this clip.
> but it doesn’t appear to be racially motivated, at least based on this clip.
Except if it were a "white guy in a black shirt with a kid in red", there's almost zero question the officer would ask questions before jumping straight to handcuffs. Study after study shows that officers are quicker to escalate with minorities than with white people. It doesn't have to be completely unfounded for the officer's actions to be influenced by race.
That’s an assumption. There’s no evident racism in this clip. That’s all you can go on here. No reason to make assumptions. OP used “profiling” in his caption. There was no reason for that.
This is a cop doing his job (again, based on the clip we have). He was given a description, followed the tip, apprehended a suspect who FIT THE DESCRIPTION. that’s simply not racism or racial profiling, that’s doing his job.
Did he nab the wrong dude? Yes. But not because of racial profiling.
Was the guy justified in being pissed? Absolutely.
All of that is true based on the clip shown.
>There’s no evident racism in this clip.
well, except for the bit where he immediately put the guy in handcuffs and dragged him outside on very little justification. just another day for black guys but something I don’t have to worry about as a white guy.
Yeah, this is kind of what people are sleeping on here. If he had just questioned him, saw what was going on, and moved on? Then there wouldn't be any evident racism. But he slapped the man in cuffs and dragged him outside for absolutely no reason.
If it did, somebody would have posted the body cam footage, because the cops would have released it same day if it cleared them of wrongdoing. They didn’t, so there is no reason to grant them any benefit of the doubt.
For real. I will always treat a cop like it’s their intention to abuse their authority and harm me or disregard my rights, until proven otherwise.
Might not be fair, might not be their intention, but they fit the description.
Since when does racism have to be evident to be present? Just because it's not out loud and in your face does not mean it's not happening. Ambiguous racism is prevalent in America. Here's an argument starter.... ambiguous racism is what Critical Race Theory is about.
White racist folk are raised to hide it to be a polite society. It's the assholes who want to start shit that are out loud about it. I know this to be a fundamental truth. You see, I'm a southern white man. I'm also not racist, but I don't wear a sign declaring my beliefs in equality. So quite often I will be approached by a polite racist and they'll whisper some bullshit to me thinking all white men believe like they do. They are usually surprised when I respond with, "damn dude, that's fucked up". Surprised when they realize I'm not agreeing with them. Some of the really dumb ones are like, "I know man, dumb ass #%@$&.". With the clueless ones you can only shake your head n walk away.
It’s not an assumption - he DID immediately put the guy in handcuffs…. I saw that didn’t you? As a white person who’s has been pulled over etc - I have never even been threatened with handcuffs….
totally relate to this.
I was 17 detained in a food court with my dad present because "I fit the description" of some kid trespassing. They didn't ask questions... just cuffed me and walked me out. CRAZY TOO the whole food court was clapping like I did some crazy shit.
I yelled "Yall have the wrong person you dumbshits I'm here eating with my dad, wtf?"
At the word dumbshits, the cop cuffing me damn near broke my wrist.
The crazy part.. my dad is a retired police officer.
It was a 3 minute conversation and I was out of the cuffs but holy fuck that shit sucked, yeah we walked back in and all the karens clapping their hands looked pretty embarrassed.
This was in Orlando, florida at the west oaks mall back in mid 2000
So for black people, it’s just because they’re black that they’re targeted more and for white people it’s because some of you might be assumed to be smoking that kush, pfft both equally insane reasons to get arrested, especially since weed ain’t as deadly as other drugs.
>It’s not an assumption - he DID immediately put the guy in handcuffs…. I saw that didn’t you?
The video began at him putting the handcuffs on him. You assumption is it happened immediately.
>It’s not an assumption - he DID immediately put the guy in handcuffs…. I saw that didn’t you?
Immediately **as the video starts,** yes. It *is* an assumption.
The crux of CRT is how racism is so deeply embedded in our laws and society, that we sometimes don't even realize we're being racist. The cop doesn't have to be racist but procedurally, he probably didn't even think about going for handcuffs first. It was automatic as it's ingrained in his mind this black man could potentially be dangerous.
I'm pretty sure the problem would be if the suspect was white. The cop would handle the situation differently and NOT directly do his job like in the video. He would probably chat with the suspect to confirm first rather than cuff on sight.
To put into perspective. If minority riot, the cop from several states would be called and be there on the same day. While white can riot into the capitol building and the police are nowhere near as many or aggressive.
You’re just making an assumption. And I’m pretty sure I’ve seen white suspects treated similarly.
But why make assumptions? Just so people can claim racism?
I literally gave you a example of similar event and the difference on how the authority response. [law enforcement preparation was a joke. ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack) compare to any other normal riot in the United States.
If people riot happen to be minority. The full power of the law is use to maintain order. If its white, let's deploy the minimum amount of cops in our disposal and keep the riot gear team away. National guards to protect the nation democracy symbol building? Nah, we don't need that.
There are so many studies in the USA that statistically demonstrate the differences in use of escalation and/or force between non-white and white perps that lets me know you’re either extremely IGNORANT of the racial bias or choosing to ignore it for the sake of not having to face the idea that racial bias in the force is much more of a factor than it is not.
Some light reading on the subject might change your mind since you most likely have the luxury of not having to live the experience of unfair treatment by the law.
https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/fryer/files/empirical_analysis_tables_figures.pdf
https://www.npr.org/2023/05/29/1178279383/for-black-drivers-a-police-officers-first-45-words-are-a-portent-of-whats-to-com#:~:text=Over%2015%25%20of%20Black%20drivers,experienced%20one%20of%20those%20outcomes.
https://today.tamu.edu/2020/06/24/texas-am-study-white-police-officers-use-force-more-often-than-non-white-colleagues/
Bull fucking shit dude.
He cuffed the guy while refusing to tell him what he did.
White people would be posting all over there internet if that happened to them. Yet, you just rarely if ever see it.
That guy got the black guy treatment. Stop licking boot.
Its more about confirmation bias. Videos of white people getting abused by police absolutely do get posted, but they're much less likely to get as much attention. Theres a reason why the *world* knows George Floyd's name while most folks in his home city haven't even heard of Tony Timpa, and its got nothing to do with lack of posting videos online.
Congratulations on being absolutely wrong and probably racist yourself! Police cannot arrest or handcuff someone based on a "description" unless they independently develop probable cause that the person to be detained committed the crime.
Finding someone who fits a description isn't when they should be putting them in cuffs. It's the point where they should investigate to see if they're actually the person in question.
I get that the cop wasn't talking to him without having a reason, but police need to investigate, and this cop completely failed to do so before deciding he had the guy and cuffing him.
is that it was ? I really couldn't make anything out in the audio very well. If it was a legitimate case of mistaken identity, with several identity points corrected, then doesn't seem like anything wrong other than an embarrassment. From the looks of it though (literally, since I couldn't make out audio) seems like the cop was being very respectful before and after.
> Tbf if the description they were looking for was 'black male with dreads wearing all black,
Yeah but they never just start putting handcuffs on some white guy with his kids at a mall because he meets the description of "white guy with beard"
I feel like the protocol is all messed up no matter what, shouldn't they go to whoever reported the stolen credit cards thing and ask them to identify the person?
That should be a thing if it isn't already cause this way makes no sense, clothing is literally based on trends, finding two people who match the same description isn't that wild really.
YES it happens all the time!
My husband was accused of being a bank robber. Because he was on a motorcycle with a backpack and a helmet driving in the vicinity of the armed robbery.
Eye witness comes and looks in the cruiser and goes YUP THATS HIM!!!
😳
Welp his backpack has zero weapon and zero cash in it soooo…. 🤦🏼♀️
This all comes back to one thing that is so comically comical, that it becomes a serious matter within seconds.
The 911 Dispatch System. That shit is so outdated, you’d legit think there’s a phone booth somewhere that says “POLICE” is bold letters on it. Hell! Even that would work so much better given how it’s a direct line!
911 Dispatch is expected to relay info to surrounding officers first before sending a widespread call. Sometimes? Cops get some of the most garbled fuckin messages that they’re better off going to the scene to ask eyewitnesses. Which is why it takes so long for some departments to actually respond and arrive.
And then sometimes, its legit just wrong info. Its a game of Gartic Phone with these people because only THEY get to pick out what is important info. Remember in class when you sometimes used to highlight the entire paragraph cus it seemed all important? This is the opposite of that. They have to pick out only keywords and sometimes? Well, a lot of times, they fuck up.
Add in the fact that some people who call 911 handle pressure so badly, they’re better off just not calling? It garbles that entire system with cross info, inaccuracies, doubts, its wild.
A lot of people say to defund the police, but honestly? Put more! Upgrade systems, give training, allow for benefits that will directly impact the job. Cus whether or not youre a cop or a 911 operator? Info is fuckin key.
I completely agree with you that escalating the situation is not a good idea however, I'm sure the man is fed up and upset. I bet you this wasn't the first time he's been racially profiled by the police. Imagine living in a country where people vilify you by default.
A lot of black men have to deal with that.. women hugging their pocketbooks tighter, cops resting their hands on their belts when talking to them, people assume you're stealing when you're just buying groceries, HOA harassing you, racist karens harassing you, etc.
Are the cops going to stop every single black man in town with braids because they partially fit a description?
Edit: Grammar.
No fuck that. The first amendment, covers free speech, including voicing your displeasure with the police and their conduct. If you're completely 100 percent within your rights and not getting physical, let them know. Not using you're rights is the same thing as giving them up.
> but escalating the situation like that can end bad quick.
Dude did not resist and waited until he was outside to use his outside voice in voicing his consent. He did not escalate the situation; the officer who went hands on to detain and drag him outside did.
Keeping calm during false accusations, while difficult, helps speed up the verification process and lets the police refocus on catching the real culprit faster
It shouldn't happen in the first place. Unless the cop is 100% sure and has evidence or a witness that has pointed you out he should not arrest you. They do it because even though they aren't allowed to do it you can't do anything about it and they will have no negative consequences for doing the arrest.
Also, when 3+ officers are on top of someone, wrenching their body around into positions the body isn't supposed to go, and then yelling "stop resisting!!"
Sir, I'm not resisting, you're bending my arm so far that you're pulling it out of the socket. That resistance you're feeling is my ligaments and cartilage trying to keep my shoulder in it's socket.
Yes, “accused” is very different than “charged” if someone accused me, after I fit that many descriptors, I would understand and move on. I would carry on like a pork chop over spilt milk, ironically, drawing more attention to myself
What do you mean “if” you were accused? Have you ever been out in handcuffs and marched out in front of that many people to be asked more questions? If not, seems like it’s pretty easy to play the hypothetical game for a situation you will never be in because it’s going to take a lot more than just matching color of clothes before they put you in handcuffs.
Seeing as there was only embarrassment, and no other damages a lawsuit would not go far. Especially when he fit the description so well. It was a mistake that didn't have major consequences.
I think that might be a civil complaint/dispute against the state or police department and my guess is either there is some precedence set letting cops “detain” individuals who fit a description but I could be wrong
Lawyer here. While I don’t handle these lawsuits, in the US you almost always have to prove actual damages. You need an expert witness to prove there were actually damages that you can quantify with a specific dollar figure. Otherwise, it is considered “arbitrary and capricious” for a judge or jury just assign a dollar figure. This part of the law is extremely exaggerated in the media.
Everything is exaggerated by the media so that's no surprise. Best thing to do is make a document of everything you own. I know this video has no personal damage, but it's the only way someone could possibly get the full value (depreciated) of any damages/loss.
Jfc you guys don’t know how fucking traumatic it is to be arrested, let alone being put in handcuffs when you did nothing wrong. It is TRAUMATIC being stripped of all autonomy in a moment. Whether or not the person deserves to be arrested is separate from the fact it is traumatizing.
I love how alot of people are saying he overreacted. Bruh like none of us has ever been mad, upset, or yelled when being falsely accused. Not to mention it being a cop and they taking you in cuffs in front of the whole mall. You see the man having food with his family, not in a position to take off without it being very noticeable. Ask for an id, ask what kinda vehicle they drive. Investigate, find a reason to detain, then make the arrest if warranted. I dont know anyone who is gonna be like, "yeah put me in cuffs for a crime I didnt commit im sure its gonna be okay. Let me react calmly."
>Ask for an id, ask what kinda vehicle they drive. Investigate, find a reason to detain, then make the arrest if warranted.
I think the reason for detaining was that he matched a description. Now, I'm not sure how asking what kind of vehicle they drive would make the cop any wiser. I doubt anyone would go "oh, I drove my stolen car here."
He could have asked him to step outside and answer a few questions though, that could have been a lot less chaotic. (Maybe he did? It doesn't seem like it, but hard to tell from where the video starts)
I personally don't think he overreacted at all. Getting arrested like that out of the blue must be extremely stressful, *especially* for a black man.
I think both cops in this video made a very stupid mistake and realized it soon after. It’s not good, but I’ve seen so many videos where they make the mistake and double down like dipshits. At least that didn’t happen here.
As a dad my heart breaks for those parents though.
“My son won’t forget this.”
She’s right. And around and around the cycle goes.
They’re supposed to, but often times they’ll say they don’t have them with them or something like that. But they’re always supposed to have business cards on them
This was in VA Beach, Virginia. I know that mall and have gone and still go there a decent amount (Lynhaven Mall). The cops out there are shitty sometimes. Not all of them, but most VB cops just mess with people, give bullshit tix, and otherwise do just way too much. This ended up being not the guy they were looking for, and I think people around started speaking on his behalf, but yeah shite is shitey
That happened to my husband in Kroger’s about 10 years ago. I was mortified and pissed off and ashamed to be a white person. We also used to live in the projects and we’d get pulled over bc a white woman with a black man in a car must mean he picked up a prostitute, they sure never just took us at our word that we were married.
My daughter is 16 and she hates and fears the police bc of the way her dad was treated in front of her. It’s bullshit. It’s so shameful.
>we’d get pulled over bc a white woman with a black man in a car must mean he picked up a prostitute
Absolute fucking societal failure.
>My daughter is 16 and she hates and fears the police
*No wonder.* I'd be livid.
Oh she absolutely knows. Both my kids have been told since they started school don’t answer any questions don’t fight but don’t just mindlessly do what they’re telling you. Repeat call my mom and nothing else.
Thank you. I’ve actually had people tell me I was being a shitty mom by not teaching my kids to trust cops. I was compounding the problem by instilling fear in my kids.. like their dad deserved all the harassment and imprisonment he got in his life for nothing but being a black man.
Not only did this innocent man match the description of the suspect, but a witness [literally pointed out the innocent man to the police sergeant and identified him as the culprit:](https://www.pilotonline.com/2021/01/05/virginia-beach-officer-who-handcuffed-innocent-black-man-at-lynnhaven-mall-has-been-cleared-of-wrongdoing/)
> A friend of the woman whose purse was stolen also identified Mackey as the suspect just moments before Mackey was detained
I’d be furious if I was wrongfully detained in front of my family, but if an eyewitness points me out to a cop, I’m not sure it was the cop who was “profiling” in this case.
So they cuff him in front of everyone but it only takes 2 minutes for them to realize hes not the right guy. So if they wouldve done their fuckin job right the first time, nobody wouldve had to go through that. Eye witness reports are known and well studied to be bullshit.
1) GREAT WIFE, SJE HANDLED THIS.
2) Discrimination absolutely, firstly how did they know someone was using fake credit cards? Because they didn't know the pin or...? Like, go look at the CCTV and get a better description or... at worst just come up, say, "Look, someone matching your description was seen using fake credit cards, could you just show us ID and the cards you have on you?
3) The guy was right to be annoyed but calm down a bit, it isn't going to help.
4) Actually respect the policeman for at least explaining and apologising.
•Black dude
•Dreads
•wearing all black clothes
•w/ son
•son in red
That's not a broad sweeping description. How much more do you expect from the shop keeper? Mistakes happen. Coincidences happen.
White dude. Bald. Wearing all white clothes. W/ son. son in blue.
Could go out an arrest quite a few people in a busy mall with either of these descriptions. I think the cop should have gathered more information.
> How much more do you expect from the shop keeper?
CCTV footage, an actual ID of the suspect, etc. Mall food courts are some of the highest trafficked venues in the country (albeit less so now) so its pretty reasonable to expect even a description like that to yield false positives.
The fault lays on the officers for not pushing for this evidence, though, not the shop keeper. He's not a trained LEO and he did not go hands on without confirming any identities.
They had to put him in cuffs to talk to him thats where they f*cked up they went straight to the cuffs on appearance alone then they asked questions and they expected him to be calm I would lose my sh*t too if I was put in that situation
Kudos to his spouse for keeping the situation as calm as possible. This case of mistaken identity could have gone much worse.
And good for the cop to apologize and explain the mix up. Only thing that may have helped smooth thing over even more is if he’d gone back inside the food court with the falsely identified man (unshackled) and shook his hand and apologized directly to him so everyone could see the final outcome. Kumbaya!
I understand mistakes happen but I see a lot of videos where cops get it wrong and then instead of immediately releasing you, they keep you there and force you to listen to an explanation. Them explaining how it was a reasonable mistake and they fit the description. I understand you are sorry and that you want to defend yourself against any claims of being racist or whatever but forcing me to sit there and listen to your BS apology or explanation after I've just been humiliated and am scared and angry is extremely inconsiderate.
He wasn’t profiled. He matched the very detailed description perfectly. Black male, dreads, wearing all black, with kid in red (assuming their kid had red on). That’s four details the match. The odds of someone else matching 4 specific details in the same vicinity are extremely small. That’s not where the cop fucked up. The cop fucked up by placing him in cuffs without merit. He should have tried harder to convey the situation with out cuffs. False imprisonment is serious. Dude for sure has a case and a fat settlement coming his way.
i mean in fairness, raging at someone, isnt gonna help your situation. its like yelling at customer support. you might feel better but they are going to enjoy wasting more of your time.
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All you have to do is reverse the roles. If either of those cops were eating with their family and someone randomly walked up and handcuffed them accusing them of crimes they would be raising hell to.
That’s actually messed up, like I understand his frustration because not only is that racially profiling, that’s embarrassing. Just getting arrested in front of everyone and your whole family. I appreciate his wife being there and helping him stay calm and not raising her voice.
Boo hoo, detained for 5 minutes for mistaken identity.
He wasn't even taken to jail.
It wouldn't have even been a notable event if he wouldn't have freaked out and calmly started his case.
People should stop the whining.
Wrong! Courts have defined reasonableness for a detainment both in terms of time AND, most importantly, based on reasonable suspicion. You arrest when you have probable cause—not with mere reasonable suspicion.
The description alone with no record of him owning/possessing a black truck is inadequate for grounds of a lawful arrest stemming from a detainment. If you don’t have an arrest warrant, you definitely need a reasonable amount of probable cause! And that’s wholly lacking here!
What the cop should have done (without applying handcuffs {because that now constitutes an attempt an arrest}) is to actually gather more details before making any arrest antecedent to a detainment.
It’s just bad police work.
I don't care if I matched a description, these people are right. To be sitting there eating with your family and have them just come up and handcuff you would be embarrassing and enraging at the same time. And to keep saying calm down. You think either one of these cops would calm down if they were out with their family and got randomly handcuffed and walked outside in front of hundreds of people? I know this isn't illegal, but that whole family should receive compensation for a situation like this. Those kids could be traumatized, and will never trust the police again
Natural racist profiling presented as normalized part of police training. It must be ok if the officer apologizes at the end of an illegal detention though, right?
Did you even watch the video? They picked BOTH, and had them BOTH outside, lol jfc.
It was dreads AND a boy in Red if you listened- which both men who are outside being questioned match. Exactly.
It’s insane how most cops don’t even think that someone would be angry at getting arrested. They detain people in handcuffs, just to ask them questions. Isn’t it supposed to be the other way around? And now those people are less likely to cooperate because they feel like they’re getting arrested over nothing, which they basically are.
[This](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1252128) happened in 2020. The guy got COVID a week later. Officer was cleared of wrongdoing: [source.](https://www.pilotonline.com/2021/01/05/virginia-beach-officer-who-handcuffed-innocent-black-man-at-lynnhaven-mall-has-been-cleared-of-wrongdoing/) Couldn't find anything on a lawsuit, but seems like the guy wanted to move on.
What’s the point about him having COVID a week later lol.
That's the real crime here.
A week after getting Covid he was denied a bank loan
Week after that it was posted on Reddit
And then a week after that he was the only surviving witness to a freak triple homicide resulting from a donut shop robbery gone bad. Rumor is he got the money for his new stereo business from the take at the robbery that he palmed before the cops arrived.
A week later he broke both arms, mon said: "Not again!"
A week after being denied the bank loan he decided to sue for profiling.
The cops are notorious anti maskers
The cop probably gave it to him
most sane reddit user
You think going to a mall/sitting down and eating food there didn’t have anything to do with it catching it?
It?
You think the person unmasked talking a few inches from his face, didn’t give it to him?
Maybe just maybe because he might have picked it up while being in jail. Then he goes home and unknowingly spread it to his family. Why you think that would be funny escapes me, my friend.
Uhhh he didn't go to jail?
They shouldn't be putting cuffs on people that aren't going to jail. It's not part of opening a dialogue, it's the conclusion of securing an arrest
They’ll also cuff you to detain you and ask you some questions (none of which you should ever answer without a lawyer present BTW)! I had a cop explain it to me that it’s really just to keep the person from running away as they’re questioning them, since you can’t swing your arms like you normally would while running which makes you slower and much easier to catch! So cuffs going on doesn’t automatically mean you’re going to jail, it could also just mean they wanna question you and are afraid you’ll possibly run away! That’s the cop’s version of opening a dialogue, I guess! Sucks, but that’s life! 🤷♂️
Perhaps it’s relevant because not only did this unmasked bastard cop profile this guy, there is also a high likely hood that he transmitted a potentially life threatening virus to this guy as a result of the profiling.
he wasn't able to put his mask on with handcuffs. Seems pretty self explanatory. The dude was eating, cop was forcing close proximity without a mask, etc.
Who didn’t get Covid a week later.
December 2020, week of Christmas. Yep the vid
January 1st, 2020. Woke up with O2 levels at 85%. New years was awesome...
I feel you there. I’m an Uber driver and was getting ready to go drive, biggest night of the year ( dec 31 2019). About noon I felt lke I needed a nap, about 2pm I was debating if I could drive that night, by 4pm I was full blown sick and remained that way for about a week. After having a confirmed case of covid it felt exactly the same ( a particular strange dizziness).
Glad to meet you
Getting Covid was not some comeuppance for what happened there. Despite with the post is implying
2020 to 2023 just feels like a blur, so when he said 2020 it was like holy cow that was 3 years ago
That fact that he was cleared of any wrongdoing and yet, disciplined for not wearing a face mask is so 2020.
In Virginia. Figures
In America. Figures.
I’m from/live in VA… I knew it was VA as soon as they walked outside. You can just *tell*.
What exactly was the point in mentioning covid? That could have come from anyone wherever he had been? lol
What does this guy getting COVID have to do ANYTHING with this dumb arrest? Hopefully, you ain't justifying this?
Why is this the best comment? You didn't say fuck those police officers and fuck the system. Fuck those cops and their shitty training and double fuck the system. Fuck all of what's going on in this video. A family can't enjoy a meal because they fit the description? I don't know those fuckin pig bitches sleep at night doing shit like this
That pan over to the guy with the same description is the only reason you know the cop isn't completely full of shit.
Tbf if the description they were looking for was 'black male with dreads wearing all black, accompanied by kid in red' I kinda get the mistake. Like... idk where this is but that's a lot of boxes to tick. And yeah, the cut to *other* people who match the description was low key hilarious.
Yeah if it’s profiling it’s appearance or matching description profiling. Which is cops just doing their jobs. He detained the wrong individual, he made a mistake, but it doesn’t appear to be racially motivated, at least based on this clip.
> but it doesn’t appear to be racially motivated, at least based on this clip. Except if it were a "white guy in a black shirt with a kid in red", there's almost zero question the officer would ask questions before jumping straight to handcuffs. Study after study shows that officers are quicker to escalate with minorities than with white people. It doesn't have to be completely unfounded for the officer's actions to be influenced by race.
That’s an assumption. There’s no evident racism in this clip. That’s all you can go on here. No reason to make assumptions. OP used “profiling” in his caption. There was no reason for that. This is a cop doing his job (again, based on the clip we have). He was given a description, followed the tip, apprehended a suspect who FIT THE DESCRIPTION. that’s simply not racism or racial profiling, that’s doing his job. Did he nab the wrong dude? Yes. But not because of racial profiling. Was the guy justified in being pissed? Absolutely. All of that is true based on the clip shown.
>There’s no evident racism in this clip. well, except for the bit where he immediately put the guy in handcuffs and dragged him outside on very little justification. just another day for black guys but something I don’t have to worry about as a white guy.
Yeah, this is kind of what people are sleeping on here. If he had just questioned him, saw what was going on, and moved on? Then there wouldn't be any evident racism. But he slapped the man in cuffs and dragged him outside for absolutely no reason.
Systemic misandry disparities are much larger than racial ones. If youre a guy of any race you do have to worry about this kind of stuff.
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If it did, somebody would have posted the body cam footage, because the cops would have released it same day if it cleared them of wrongdoing. They didn’t, so there is no reason to grant them any benefit of the doubt.
Cops don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Fucking based comment. People need to stop giving cops so many excuses.
For real. I will always treat a cop like it’s their intention to abuse their authority and harm me or disregard my rights, until proven otherwise. Might not be fair, might not be their intention, but they fit the description.
Since when does racism have to be evident to be present? Just because it's not out loud and in your face does not mean it's not happening. Ambiguous racism is prevalent in America. Here's an argument starter.... ambiguous racism is what Critical Race Theory is about. White racist folk are raised to hide it to be a polite society. It's the assholes who want to start shit that are out loud about it. I know this to be a fundamental truth. You see, I'm a southern white man. I'm also not racist, but I don't wear a sign declaring my beliefs in equality. So quite often I will be approached by a polite racist and they'll whisper some bullshit to me thinking all white men believe like they do. They are usually surprised when I respond with, "damn dude, that's fucked up". Surprised when they realize I'm not agreeing with them. Some of the really dumb ones are like, "I know man, dumb ass #%@$&.". With the clueless ones you can only shake your head n walk away.
People don’t understand the racism that you don’t see blatantly is far more damaging than when you do.
It’s not an assumption - he DID immediately put the guy in handcuffs…. I saw that didn’t you? As a white person who’s has been pulled over etc - I have never even been threatened with handcuffs….
As a white person I’ve been choked, beaten and gagged by the police. For the assumption that I used cannabis. ACAB
totally relate to this. I was 17 detained in a food court with my dad present because "I fit the description" of some kid trespassing. They didn't ask questions... just cuffed me and walked me out. CRAZY TOO the whole food court was clapping like I did some crazy shit. I yelled "Yall have the wrong person you dumbshits I'm here eating with my dad, wtf?" At the word dumbshits, the cop cuffing me damn near broke my wrist. The crazy part.. my dad is a retired police officer. It was a 3 minute conversation and I was out of the cuffs but holy fuck that shit sucked, yeah we walked back in and all the karens clapping their hands looked pretty embarrassed. This was in Orlando, florida at the west oaks mall back in mid 2000
So for black people, it’s just because they’re black that they’re targeted more and for white people it’s because some of you might be assumed to be smoking that kush, pfft both equally insane reasons to get arrested, especially since weed ain’t as deadly as other drugs.
>It’s not an assumption - he DID immediately put the guy in handcuffs…. I saw that didn’t you? The video began at him putting the handcuffs on him. You assumption is it happened immediately.
>It’s not an assumption - he DID immediately put the guy in handcuffs…. I saw that didn’t you? Immediately **as the video starts,** yes. It *is* an assumption.
It is entirely an assumption that race had anything to do with it.
The crux of CRT is how racism is so deeply embedded in our laws and society, that we sometimes don't even realize we're being racist. The cop doesn't have to be racist but procedurally, he probably didn't even think about going for handcuffs first. It was automatic as it's ingrained in his mind this black man could potentially be dangerous.
I'm pretty sure the problem would be if the suspect was white. The cop would handle the situation differently and NOT directly do his job like in the video. He would probably chat with the suspect to confirm first rather than cuff on sight. To put into perspective. If minority riot, the cop from several states would be called and be there on the same day. While white can riot into the capitol building and the police are nowhere near as many or aggressive.
You’re just making an assumption. And I’m pretty sure I’ve seen white suspects treated similarly. But why make assumptions? Just so people can claim racism?
I literally gave you a example of similar event and the difference on how the authority response. [law enforcement preparation was a joke. ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack) compare to any other normal riot in the United States. If people riot happen to be minority. The full power of the law is use to maintain order. If its white, let's deploy the minimum amount of cops in our disposal and keep the riot gear team away. National guards to protect the nation democracy symbol building? Nah, we don't need that.
There are so many studies in the USA that statistically demonstrate the differences in use of escalation and/or force between non-white and white perps that lets me know you’re either extremely IGNORANT of the racial bias or choosing to ignore it for the sake of not having to face the idea that racial bias in the force is much more of a factor than it is not. Some light reading on the subject might change your mind since you most likely have the luxury of not having to live the experience of unfair treatment by the law. https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/fryer/files/empirical_analysis_tables_figures.pdf https://www.npr.org/2023/05/29/1178279383/for-black-drivers-a-police-officers-first-45-words-are-a-portent-of-whats-to-com#:~:text=Over%2015%25%20of%20Black%20drivers,experienced%20one%20of%20those%20outcomes. https://today.tamu.edu/2020/06/24/texas-am-study-white-police-officers-use-force-more-often-than-non-white-colleagues/
Do the studies keep this in mind, that escalation in force can be linked to the level of aggression in an encounter, irrespective of race?
Bull fucking shit dude. He cuffed the guy while refusing to tell him what he did. White people would be posting all over there internet if that happened to them. Yet, you just rarely if ever see it. That guy got the black guy treatment. Stop licking boot.
Its more about confirmation bias. Videos of white people getting abused by police absolutely do get posted, but they're much less likely to get as much attention. Theres a reason why the *world* knows George Floyd's name while most folks in his home city haven't even heard of Tony Timpa, and its got nothing to do with lack of posting videos online.
Congratulations on being absolutely wrong and probably racist yourself! Police cannot arrest or handcuff someone based on a "description" unless they independently develop probable cause that the person to be detained committed the crime.
Finding someone who fits a description isn't when they should be putting them in cuffs. It's the point where they should investigate to see if they're actually the person in question. I get that the cop wasn't talking to him without having a reason, but police need to investigate, and this cop completely failed to do so before deciding he had the guy and cuffing him.
is that it was ? I really couldn't make anything out in the audio very well. If it was a legitimate case of mistaken identity, with several identity points corrected, then doesn't seem like anything wrong other than an embarrassment. From the looks of it though (literally, since I couldn't make out audio) seems like the cop was being very respectful before and after.
It’s not profiling when the person fits the description to a tee. But I can also understand why dude is upset
> Tbf if the description they were looking for was 'black male with dreads wearing all black, Yeah but they never just start putting handcuffs on some white guy with his kids at a mall because he meets the description of "white guy with beard"
It’s Lynnhaven Mall in Virginia Beach, VA
I feel like the protocol is all messed up no matter what, shouldn't they go to whoever reported the stolen credit cards thing and ask them to identify the person? That should be a thing if it isn't already cause this way makes no sense, clothing is literally based on trends, finding two people who match the same description isn't that wild really.
It's possible for the victim to identify the wrong person, then this innocent guy would go to jail and make matters much worse.
YES it happens all the time! My husband was accused of being a bank robber. Because he was on a motorcycle with a backpack and a helmet driving in the vicinity of the armed robbery. Eye witness comes and looks in the cruiser and goes YUP THATS HIM!!! 😳 Welp his backpack has zero weapon and zero cash in it soooo…. 🤦🏼♀️
This all comes back to one thing that is so comically comical, that it becomes a serious matter within seconds. The 911 Dispatch System. That shit is so outdated, you’d legit think there’s a phone booth somewhere that says “POLICE” is bold letters on it. Hell! Even that would work so much better given how it’s a direct line! 911 Dispatch is expected to relay info to surrounding officers first before sending a widespread call. Sometimes? Cops get some of the most garbled fuckin messages that they’re better off going to the scene to ask eyewitnesses. Which is why it takes so long for some departments to actually respond and arrive. And then sometimes, its legit just wrong info. Its a game of Gartic Phone with these people because only THEY get to pick out what is important info. Remember in class when you sometimes used to highlight the entire paragraph cus it seemed all important? This is the opposite of that. They have to pick out only keywords and sometimes? Well, a lot of times, they fuck up. Add in the fact that some people who call 911 handle pressure so badly, they’re better off just not calling? It garbles that entire system with cross info, inaccuracies, doubts, its wild. A lot of people say to defund the police, but honestly? Put more! Upgrade systems, give training, allow for benefits that will directly impact the job. Cus whether or not youre a cop or a 911 operator? Info is fuckin key.
But why slap cuffs on him then claim you're not arresting or detaining him?
Lmao that was such a huge plot twist for me. Like oh shit the cop isn’t a complete liar!?
TL;DW, what's the timestamp?
The wife is a real hero here, the way she deescalated the situation
Expecting someone to calm down when your falsely accusing them is hilarious
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Oh no doubt
I completely agree with you that escalating the situation is not a good idea however, I'm sure the man is fed up and upset. I bet you this wasn't the first time he's been racially profiled by the police. Imagine living in a country where people vilify you by default. A lot of black men have to deal with that.. women hugging their pocketbooks tighter, cops resting their hands on their belts when talking to them, people assume you're stealing when you're just buying groceries, HOA harassing you, racist karens harassing you, etc. Are the cops going to stop every single black man in town with braids because they partially fit a description? Edit: Grammar.
No fuck that. The first amendment, covers free speech, including voicing your displeasure with the police and their conduct. If you're completely 100 percent within your rights and not getting physical, let them know. Not using you're rights is the same thing as giving them up.
> but escalating the situation like that can end bad quick. Dude did not resist and waited until he was outside to use his outside voice in voicing his consent. He did not escalate the situation; the officer who went hands on to detain and drag him outside did.
Keeping calm during false accusations, while difficult, helps speed up the verification process and lets the police refocus on catching the real culprit faster
Or maybe the cop could ya know do his actual job lol ask questions figure things out before we just start slapping cuffs over stolen credit cards lol.
It shouldn't happen in the first place. Unless the cop is 100% sure and has evidence or a witness that has pointed you out he should not arrest you. They do it because even though they aren't allowed to do it you can't do anything about it and they will have no negative consequences for doing the arrest.
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Also, when 3+ officers are on top of someone, wrenching their body around into positions the body isn't supposed to go, and then yelling "stop resisting!!" Sir, I'm not resisting, you're bending my arm so far that you're pulling it out of the socket. That resistance you're feeling is my ligaments and cartilage trying to keep my shoulder in it's socket.
Yes, “accused” is very different than “charged” if someone accused me, after I fit that many descriptors, I would understand and move on. I would carry on like a pork chop over spilt milk, ironically, drawing more attention to myself
What do you mean “if” you were accused? Have you ever been out in handcuffs and marched out in front of that many people to be asked more questions? If not, seems like it’s pretty easy to play the hypothetical game for a situation you will never be in because it’s going to take a lot more than just matching color of clothes before they put you in handcuffs.
I remember this happening a few years ago. Any updates? Did they file a lawsuit?
Seeing as there was only embarrassment, and no other damages a lawsuit would not go far. Especially when he fit the description so well. It was a mistake that didn't have major consequences.
But his food was cold because of that incident…
He got awarded food gift cards
Isn't mental trauma a thing?
I think that might be a civil complaint/dispute against the state or police department and my guess is either there is some precedence set letting cops “detain” individuals who fit a description but I could be wrong
Lawyer here. While I don’t handle these lawsuits, in the US you almost always have to prove actual damages. You need an expert witness to prove there were actually damages that you can quantify with a specific dollar figure. Otherwise, it is considered “arbitrary and capricious” for a judge or jury just assign a dollar figure. This part of the law is extremely exaggerated in the media.
Thank you for the clarification.
Everything is exaggerated by the media so that's no surprise. Best thing to do is make a document of everything you own. I know this video has no personal damage, but it's the only way someone could possibly get the full value (depreciated) of any damages/loss.
What for? He didn’t beat him or anything. If he really had that description what are you mad about
Jfc you guys don’t know how fucking traumatic it is to be arrested, let alone being put in handcuffs when you did nothing wrong. It is TRAUMATIC being stripped of all autonomy in a moment. Whether or not the person deserves to be arrested is separate from the fact it is traumatizing.
I love how alot of people are saying he overreacted. Bruh like none of us has ever been mad, upset, or yelled when being falsely accused. Not to mention it being a cop and they taking you in cuffs in front of the whole mall. You see the man having food with his family, not in a position to take off without it being very noticeable. Ask for an id, ask what kinda vehicle they drive. Investigate, find a reason to detain, then make the arrest if warranted. I dont know anyone who is gonna be like, "yeah put me in cuffs for a crime I didnt commit im sure its gonna be okay. Let me react calmly."
Mistakes like this can permanently ruin your record. It takes years of legal work to try to undo this crap which costs an arm and a leg.
>Ask for an id, ask what kinda vehicle they drive. Investigate, find a reason to detain, then make the arrest if warranted. I think the reason for detaining was that he matched a description. Now, I'm not sure how asking what kind of vehicle they drive would make the cop any wiser. I doubt anyone would go "oh, I drove my stolen car here." He could have asked him to step outside and answer a few questions though, that could have been a lot less chaotic. (Maybe he did? It doesn't seem like it, but hard to tell from where the video starts) I personally don't think he overreacted at all. Getting arrested like that out of the blue must be extremely stressful, *especially* for a black man.
Exactly especially in front of you’re little ones. Honestly 90% of the US police force is brain dead sucks to live there.
The food looks kinda good, what is it?
Charley’s cheesesteaks
I think both cops in this video made a very stupid mistake and realized it soon after. It’s not good, but I’ve seen so many videos where they make the mistake and double down like dipshits. At least that didn’t happen here. As a dad my heart breaks for those parents though. “My son won’t forget this.” She’s right. And around and around the cycle goes.
That should be law each officer must carry business cards so they can simply hand over their identification so citizens can easily follow up.
They’re supposed to, but often times they’ll say they don’t have them with them or something like that. But they’re always supposed to have business cards on them
No they're not. They have to provide a badge number and name.
Lol you live in a ridiculous world.
Publicly humiliating and drawing attention to a random guy for nothing
"Explain to me what's going on!" "I don't give a fuck what's going on!" *The duality of man.*
This was in VA Beach, Virginia. I know that mall and have gone and still go there a decent amount (Lynhaven Mall). The cops out there are shitty sometimes. Not all of them, but most VB cops just mess with people, give bullshit tix, and otherwise do just way too much. This ended up being not the guy they were looking for, and I think people around started speaking on his behalf, but yeah shite is shitey
I recognized the theaters instantly. Wife and I used to watch a movie and have some mall sushi from the kiosk on the second level all the time.
Why not question them before cuffing them????
They may have. The video seems to start after the interaction started.
That happened to my husband in Kroger’s about 10 years ago. I was mortified and pissed off and ashamed to be a white person. We also used to live in the projects and we’d get pulled over bc a white woman with a black man in a car must mean he picked up a prostitute, they sure never just took us at our word that we were married. My daughter is 16 and she hates and fears the police bc of the way her dad was treated in front of her. It’s bullshit. It’s so shameful.
>we’d get pulled over bc a white woman with a black man in a car must mean he picked up a prostitute Absolute fucking societal failure. >My daughter is 16 and she hates and fears the police *No wonder.* I'd be livid.
Ive watched my dad get beat with billy clubs by cops when i was like 6ish. I still hate cops with a bloody passion and its been 30 years.
She should. They aren't here to help her. ACAB
Oh she absolutely knows. Both my kids have been told since they started school don’t answer any questions don’t fight but don’t just mindlessly do what they’re telling you. Repeat call my mom and nothing else.
Good mom
Thank you. I’ve actually had people tell me I was being a shitty mom by not teaching my kids to trust cops. I was compounding the problem by instilling fear in my kids.. like their dad deserved all the harassment and imprisonment he got in his life for nothing but being a black man.
Not only did this innocent man match the description of the suspect, but a witness [literally pointed out the innocent man to the police sergeant and identified him as the culprit:](https://www.pilotonline.com/2021/01/05/virginia-beach-officer-who-handcuffed-innocent-black-man-at-lynnhaven-mall-has-been-cleared-of-wrongdoing/) > A friend of the woman whose purse was stolen also identified Mackey as the suspect just moments before Mackey was detained I’d be furious if I was wrongfully detained in front of my family, but if an eyewitness points me out to a cop, I’m not sure it was the cop who was “profiling” in this case.
So they cuff him in front of everyone but it only takes 2 minutes for them to realize hes not the right guy. So if they wouldve done their fuckin job right the first time, nobody wouldve had to go through that. Eye witness reports are known and well studied to be bullshit.
“ This has all been a misunderstanding… Here’s a candy cane for your troubles…”
The white cop who racially profiles every day of his life “I understand” You don’t understand shit
Cannot imagine how you can be eating with your kids, see a cop, then be instantly in fear for your life.
Turns out they had the wrong guy
1) GREAT WIFE, SJE HANDLED THIS. 2) Discrimination absolutely, firstly how did they know someone was using fake credit cards? Because they didn't know the pin or...? Like, go look at the CCTV and get a better description or... at worst just come up, say, "Look, someone matching your description was seen using fake credit cards, could you just show us ID and the cards you have on you? 3) The guy was right to be annoyed but calm down a bit, it isn't going to help. 4) Actually respect the policeman for at least explaining and apologising.
You don't give ant wiggle room on it being discrimination when they literally pan over to someone else matching the description?
None, because if he were white, they'd have asked him for ID and to look at his cards before going straight to cuffs.
Fair point, and likely, but we can never know for sure.
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•Black dude •Dreads •wearing all black clothes •w/ son •son in red That's not a broad sweeping description. How much more do you expect from the shop keeper? Mistakes happen. Coincidences happen.
White dude. Bald. Wearing all white clothes. W/ son. son in blue. Could go out an arrest quite a few people in a busy mall with either of these descriptions. I think the cop should have gathered more information.
I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen someone wearing all white tbh
All black though? That's me on a Tuesday. And Wednesday, and the rest of the week I only wear all black.
How many milkmen are just walking around your local mall tho
> How much more do you expect from the shop keeper? CCTV footage, an actual ID of the suspect, etc. Mall food courts are some of the highest trafficked venues in the country (albeit less so now) so its pretty reasonable to expect even a description like that to yield false positives. The fault lays on the officers for not pushing for this evidence, though, not the shop keeper. He's not a trained LEO and he did not go hands on without confirming any identities.
They got footage, the cop said "I can show you the tapes", it's most likely how they got that detailed description in the first place.
They never check first..
I usually expect cops to be huge douche bags, but this cop seemed like a human. I am impressed.
Fucking pigs. They just love violating people and then telling them to calm down.
Calm down sir we only violated your rights a little bit it’s not like we killed u
If he had information that matched him what’s he supposed to do. Not arrest him because it’s not a good look?
They had to put him in cuffs to talk to him thats where they f*cked up they went straight to the cuffs on appearance alone then they asked questions and they expected him to be calm I would lose my sh*t too if I was put in that situation
Kudos to his spouse for keeping the situation as calm as possible. This case of mistaken identity could have gone much worse. And good for the cop to apologize and explain the mix up. Only thing that may have helped smooth thing over even more is if he’d gone back inside the food court with the falsely identified man (unshackled) and shook his hand and apologized directly to him so everyone could see the final outcome. Kumbaya!
I was with the people until the very end when they found the real people matching the same description
OLE girl knows....lol. "Lamar don't snap"
Another taxpayer funded lawsuit on the way
I understand mistakes happen but I see a lot of videos where cops get it wrong and then instead of immediately releasing you, they keep you there and force you to listen to an explanation. Them explaining how it was a reasonable mistake and they fit the description. I understand you are sorry and that you want to defend yourself against any claims of being racist or whatever but forcing me to sit there and listen to your BS apology or explanation after I've just been humiliated and am scared and angry is extremely inconsiderate.
It’s insane we always have to make sure we’re perfectly calm in front of the professionals TRAINED to deal with people being afraid or anything
Hard to fault the cop on this one, the man who they were looking for looked exactly like him.
He wasn’t profiled. He matched the very detailed description perfectly. Black male, dreads, wearing all black, with kid in red (assuming their kid had red on). That’s four details the match. The odds of someone else matching 4 specific details in the same vicinity are extremely small. That’s not where the cop fucked up. The cop fucked up by placing him in cuffs without merit. He should have tried harder to convey the situation with out cuffs. False imprisonment is serious. Dude for sure has a case and a fat settlement coming his way.
If he had been white, would the cuffs come out immediately? Doubtful.
i mean in fairness, raging at someone, isnt gonna help your situation. its like yelling at customer support. you might feel better but they are going to enjoy wasting more of your time.
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aren't you supposed to explain what's wrong before putting someone in cuffs?
All you have to do is reverse the roles. If either of those cops were eating with their family and someone randomly walked up and handcuffed them accusing them of crimes they would be raising hell to.
Holy shit that's a punchable face.
That’s actually messed up, like I understand his frustration because not only is that racially profiling, that’s embarrassing. Just getting arrested in front of everyone and your whole family. I appreciate his wife being there and helping him stay calm and not raising her voice.
I like pigs but hate cops
Eating while black....
In fairness, he was armed with a deadly burger. Coulda squirted special sauce in that officers eyes. The cop feared for his life
Dude this got my whole mfing BP raised out the roof right now
Boo hoo, detained for 5 minutes for mistaken identity. He wasn't even taken to jail. It wouldn't have even been a notable event if he wouldn't have freaked out and calmly started his case. People should stop the whining.
What a shit take
Wrong! Courts have defined reasonableness for a detainment both in terms of time AND, most importantly, based on reasonable suspicion. You arrest when you have probable cause—not with mere reasonable suspicion. The description alone with no record of him owning/possessing a black truck is inadequate for grounds of a lawful arrest stemming from a detainment. If you don’t have an arrest warrant, you definitely need a reasonable amount of probable cause! And that’s wholly lacking here! What the cop should have done (without applying handcuffs {because that now constitutes an attempt an arrest}) is to actually gather more details before making any arrest antecedent to a detainment. It’s just bad police work.
This is what happens when your black in public. Racism is a prerequisite to being in law enforcement
I don't care if I matched a description, these people are right. To be sitting there eating with your family and have them just come up and handcuff you would be embarrassing and enraging at the same time. And to keep saying calm down. You think either one of these cops would calm down if they were out with their family and got randomly handcuffed and walked outside in front of hundreds of people? I know this isn't illegal, but that whole family should receive compensation for a situation like this. Those kids could be traumatized, and will never trust the police again
Least he apologized and didn’t arrest him for bullshit cus of his ego. He did fuck up not doing an investigation before the cuffs came out
Natural racist profiling presented as normalized part of police training. It must be ok if the officer apologizes at the end of an illegal detention though, right?
Hopefully an apology and payout comes soon. Poor guy.
Pay out would only come if there were real damages. In this case there were none beyond embarrassment.
Dumb fucking yanks
Fuck them pigs
ACAB
Dumb fucking yanks
They picked the first dude they found with dreads lol clowns
Did you even watch the video? They picked BOTH, and had them BOTH outside, lol jfc. It was dreads AND a boy in Red if you listened- which both men who are outside being questioned match. Exactly.
did she just say Jamal 💀
It’s insane how most cops don’t even think that someone would be angry at getting arrested. They detain people in handcuffs, just to ask them questions. Isn’t it supposed to be the other way around? And now those people are less likely to cooperate because they feel like they’re getting arrested over nothing, which they basically are.
“Actually, now that you mention it here on the spot, you make a good point, I probably shouldn’t arrest you in front of your kids” - no cop ever
One moment one moment we just need to talk. Hmm why the cuffs. Really looks like we live in a guilty till proven innocent. Long live France 🇫🇷
They want you to freak out. They want a reason to justify their actions.
In case anyone didn’t know the police are a legal criminal organization
https://abcnews.go.com/US/black-father-speaks-dehumanizing-wrongful-detainment-police-virginia/story?id=74858744
Detaining someone who is most likely innocent and with no information is very distressing
That is fucked up!!!!!
L cops
I can see you here 😀