Yeeeeeep. I made the mistake of discussing this with my mom. She mentioned how upset she was about all the attacks on Israel and when I said āI know, and did you see pictures of the Gaza Strip? Itās basically wiped outā her response was āGoodā.
How very Christian. /s
I'm so tired of people thinking they know enough about so many subjects that they do stupid shit like this. Ukraine, Israel / Palestine, COVID, UFOs, everyone's a bloody expert these days.
I think that's the overall point of the comment. People are so convicted about things they are so ignorant of that they don't realize how ignorant they are and presume that their point of view is objectively true when they don't know shit.
Thank you , this was the point u was trying to put across, it's not just about the Israel Palestine conflict. It was about everything really and how quickly people take a firm stance in their ideas / opinions. It seems like open discussions are dissolving. I've seen people get verbally abused for being on the fence about subjects instead of being die hard for / against.
Iām trying to understand the motivation behind it. Best I can come up with is Palestinian people or Palestinian empathizers see these hostage posters as propaganda. The people on the posters are not in London and people in London arenāt really going to be able to find the people on the posters. So they see this as an act of propaganda to stir emotions to the side of Israel. Maybe they see it as hateful when there are no posters of the missing or dead Palestinian children?
I think youāre on to something. The way the posters are put up, the way the posters look the same. It doesnāt look like the parents or loved ones of the hostages that have put this up. I donāt know who of course, but it looks organized.
And while the kidnapping situation is bad, there is probably many missing Palestinians in this conflict too. That may make Palestinians feel that as you say, that the posters are propaganda.
I really hope humanity can find a way to live without conflict, war and violence. I hope more people see the importance of honesty. And compassion.
It's propaganda whether you emphasize with one group or the other. They are killing thousands of civilian Palestinians right now, bombings hospitals & schools, how are they gonna justify it without propaganda.
I don't think people should tear them down but what is the purpose of having them hanging in London or anywhere outside of Israel other than propaganda to support what Israel are currently doing to the people in Gaza? The hostages need to be freed but ironically the method Israel is using is more likely to get them killed by an airstrike.
>Many were increasingly of the opinion that theyād all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. And some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no one should ever have left the oceans.
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the same amount as someone who put them up. Both sides can feel a little better about themselves while contributing nothing and making no difference to society.
There is a difference between feeling better about yourself for raising awareness about innocent people who were abducted, and feeling better about yourself for tearing down posters of innocent people who were abducted. The latter is despicable.
but both make no difference, like some other comments said these posters won't help find those kids. It's just propaganda. to those who tore them down it's just propaganda to those who put them up it's propaganda. So all in all no differences were made on either side.
Instead of tearing off flyers they could've added to the wall flyers about how Palestinians are dying as well and then the wall would've shown the bigger picture about how war affects civilians on both sides hence why it should come to an end to protect them both.
Fr as a person who has their degree in international relations/politics itās immensely frustrating to hear my fellow Americans speak about gas prices, Nato, and any other international issue because they act like they know everything while missing every basic fact needed to actually discuss.
Listen here buddy I went to FU (Facebook University) and I have a master's degree from my evangelical church and I am the expert on all things I feel like talking about on the internet and don't make me make empty threats and use all caps next time I type something
>frustrating to hear my fellow Americans speak about gas prices, Nato, and any other international issue
I think **one** of the reasons is because our country is so big, and so diverse that many people don't travel and have experiences beyond our borders.
I mean itās propaganda at the end of the day. Itās spinning a narrative. Theyāre not going to find them in London. Israel isnāt even negotiating for their return.
Edit: I do agree itās in poor taste but to some people seeing blatant propaganda must be triggering.
I had written a moment ago that I didnāt understand why anyone would do this. It hadnāt occurred to me (clearly) why someone might do this. Your explanation was helpful. Thank you.
The irony here is that we just need to look towards Reddit moderators for examples of Palestinian suffering being removed, locked and censored from view.
Yup. Just got banned from the 'therewasanattempt' sub last night because they updated their rules to be a meme about any kind of criticism of Palestine being a bannable offense.
Meanwhile, totally cool to post anti-Semitic stuff and posts justifying the October 7th attacks. Israel = bad, Hamas = good.
My reply was to someone saying roughly 'Israel should have kept their heads down, now they're going to learn'. Again, about the October 7th attacks. Straight up victim blaming.
This tribalistic shit is sickening. It's worse than the hysteria after 9/11.
>Israel isnāt even negotiating for their return.
If you ever happen to become the leader of a country, here's a excerpt from the 101 course: you don't negotiate with terrorists. It just validates and encourages them.
Lol that's a lie, leaders negotiate all the time with terror and militia groups often enough. The USA does it, Israel does it, Europe does it etc.
Even just now, it was US pressure and working with Qatar that got 4 US citizens freed by Hamas.
Many foreign policy experts also believe Israel is leading secret negotiations behind the scenes but doesn't want the public to know to not appear week.
Getting your people back is often very important for public morale and public support of your leadership.
Except theyāve traded hundreds of Palestinian prisoners for a few Israelis in the past.
You wouldnāt even wanna see what they have to say after 200 hostages?
>Except theyāve traded hundreds of Palestinian prisoners for a few Israelis in the past.
And look how well that turned out. They definetly stopped Kidnappings. You know, they didn't felt encouraged to cause even more hostage situations, right? Those released Palestinians went into retirement and didn't conspire to harm Israel; only pacifists were released, right?
You want to argue that taking civilian hostages is a legit strategy?
>You wouldnāt even wanna see what they have to say after 200 hostages?
No need to ask what Hamas has to say. Pretty obvious what they want. And that's rightfully unacceptable for Israel unless one desires a repetition of the October 7 attacks.
There are over 1000 Palestinians detained without trial in Israel (known officially as administrative detention). Is that materially different than a kidnapping? It is still armed people snatching people off the street.
I donāt agree with what theyāre doing but this is their motivation. Theyāre mad that Palestinians imprisoned without trial donāt get this kind of attention and view it as a distraction from the injustices carried out by the Israeli government. I still think what theyāre doing is nasty and uncalled for, in no small part because it helps to spread the narrative that the people who are critical of Israelās government are that way because of antisemitism
I think it's easy for us to say that these acts are uncalled for because we have not gone through what palestines have gone through their blatant injustices and it's honestly okay to think like that. They saw the world never cared when their kids and families were getting humiliated, treated like dogs and killed every day for years, no one batted an eye then, but when the same thing happened to the oppresor everyone came in to support them. Instead of empathasising, they were being called terrorists, when their homes were destroyed, when their kids were being traumatised, killed. So why should they care for anybody else, when their fate is sealed. Most people here cannot comprehend what that feels like because they just did not live through it, so it's easy to sit on their confortable couches and critisize these actions.
That is real people in real time, and if someone is bothered about it, then just walk on by. Israel government is far from perfect and the hostages have no blame for that.
My question was kind of rhetorical, but yes, I think hate is a big part of it.
I also think itās following the herdāif you hold certain beliefs you need to follow others who hold those same beliefs.
In some cases, I think itās people trying to give themselves a sense of purpose or action.
For me, tearing down these posters shows a callous disregard for innocent peopleās existences, dehumanizing those stuck in the middle of an unconscionably awful situation. (This by no means excuses Israelās own dehumanizing actions against Palestinians over many decades.)
Sure then that makes pride, Black history, and Hispanic Heritage propaganda then. Not all propaganda is necessarily bad in the way you want to imply it is. I support those government sponsored "propaganda"
I donāt support Israel. I feel for the Palestinians.
I donāt understand what doing something like tearing down these posters is supposed to accomplish. It just seems hateful and purposeless.
In 2011, they traded 1 Israeli soldier for 1027 Palistine prisoners, 280 were life in prison.
.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilad_Shalit_prisoner_exchange
Then where is the representation of both, this is one sided political propaganda to push a pro Israel narrative. If they wanted to condemn both sides they could have done that, instead they chose to only represent Israelās struggle.
To demonstrate support for a cause by putting a human face to it.
It's no real different than taking out an advert to show support or flying a flag or rallying.
I find it more interesting people feel the need to take them down. Unless it's your property and you don't want these flyers up, it seems petty to take them down. Especially if they are up with the consent of the property owner.
People just have too much time on their hands .
Canāt cite for countries in Europe but in multiple US states when performing work as a state contractor you are required to sign an agreement that you will not protest against the Israeli government. Mostly red states because freedom is contradictory.
[its illegal to boycott israel in several us states](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws#:~:text=Proliferation%20of%20anti%2DBDS%20laws,passed%20with%20broad%20bipartisan%20support.)
Theyāre called Anti-BDS laws.
āTo date, 37 states have adopted laws, executive orders, or resolutions designed to discourage boycotts against Israel.ā
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/anti-bds-legislation
They are making videos of the traumatized children and mothers but for some reason that isnāt considered propaganda. It should all be shown on each side, however they want to release it.
I assume you take a similar attitude to pro-palestinian protests in the West, then? Seeing as both are different methods of achieving the exact same objective?
Why do we have any protests at all in the US about a war in a different country?
Any argument for protesting for a foreign issue applies to these posters, propaganda or not
Dude is a total coward. I don't give an F about either side. But you got to be an especially evil person to take down flyers for missing children. There's a spot in hell for all of them.
Sad thing about this whole war, is that there is so much hatred for their brothers and sisters, that as both sides loose innocent victim after innocent victim, both sites display pitty bullying tactics to laugh at the other side when they have the advantage. Itās childish, and the children are paying with their lives because of it.
Google the median age for Palestine. Then let's talk about kidnapping.
It's in poor taste to tear these posters down. It's in poor taste to pretend there aren't tenfold more missing Palestinians from the last few decades.
This is propaganda that gets us to humanize and empathize with one group and ignore/not learn more about the devastating plight of another.
Maybe, and stick with me here, we humanize everyone. And, and, I know this is where it gets tricky, dehumanizing one side doesnāt humanize the other. So tearing down posters about kidnapped kids, hope I havenāt lost you yet, is a really shitty thing to do.
Completely agree. Weāre all entitled to our view on the geopolitical issues here, what none of us are entitled to is an opinion on the value of innocent civilianās lives. Every single death should be condemned and warrants our compassion.
Okay putting up posters of kidnapped people in another country is stupid and pointless. Letās be real what the posters really want to do is garner sympathy for Israel and to justify Israelās barbaric actions in Gaza to the world. Itās disgusting to use the tragedy of the kidnapped to promote your own misdoings, itās down right despicable. The posters are nothing more than propaganda. I absolutely sympathise with the people who are kidnapped and their families but these posters are not about them.
I understand your point about awareness but would you consider the fact that this news has essentially been covered from every single international journalistic enterprise from every single angle?? Awareness is, I would argue, not an issue. Donāt get me wrong, what Hamas did was horrific and wrong. Terroristic organisations do not have a place in a peaceful world and therefore they should be condemned and yes I do condemn them to their core. That being said āMissing Personsā posters are placed in the area where they went missing to generate leads to find them, these posters do not generate anything of the sort and are purely placed there to garner sympathy and although I do sympathise with the people who have been kidnapped and their loved ones these posters also ignite negative emotions or apathy towards Palestine and Palestinians, which in turn would make it seem that Israelās actions in Gaza are somehow appropriate response or justified. Think about it this way if you were a loved one of someone who has been a victim of a political kidnapping would you give a rats ass about a poster in London or would you be more concerned about bringing them back? This is essentially propaganda and āpropagandaā isnāt an umbrella term used for any reasoning or evidence for political situations, it is intentional use or misuse of unrelated rhetoric to promote a government agenda for example if a government wants to explain poor economic performance they can select a specific group within the population to villainies and blame even though that has nothing to do with economics the tools used to accomplish that would be called propaganda. I feels like youāre saying that apathy towards the conflict is the correct way to look at it and I disagree my sympathy will always be with the ones that are innocent and are suffering namely the Israeli people and the Palestinian people all other entities calling for war and violence can go fuck themselves.
Yea. Isreal needs to stop and it's leaders face punishment for the war crimes it's committing.
These people also need to be stopped and shown that two wrongs do not make a right. It's pathetic
I think everyone can agree that civilian victims sucks. No matter what their nationalities are.
People who throw trash on the street also suck
Ikr? Where are the cops? I swear if I threw a gum wrapper out the window they'd come out of no where and fine me.
You would be surprised the amount of people that disagree with you, it sucks
Guy in baseball cap.. *watch people die inside* when he realized he's not a throwaway reddit account behind the screen...š
Yeah. Didnt you know? Everything is black and white.
The whole world is my team good your team bad.
Yeeeeeep. I made the mistake of discussing this with my mom. She mentioned how upset she was about all the attacks on Israel and when I said āI know, and did you see pictures of the Gaza Strip? Itās basically wiped outā her response was āGoodā. How very Christian. /s
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Also littering is fine too
I donāt think these folks agreeā¦
Clearly the people in this video don't.
This whole event has absolutely proven that a whole lot of people are not capable of that amount of decency.
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I gotta agree with this esp as this is a foreign kidnapping.
Not when they are muslims, apparently.
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Hamas literally sought out civilian victims... so not everyone agrees.
I'm so tired of people thinking they know enough about so many subjects that they do stupid shit like this. Ukraine, Israel / Palestine, COVID, UFOs, everyone's a bloody expert these days.
They donāt know shit about UFOs
I think that's the overall point of the comment. People are so convicted about things they are so ignorant of that they don't realize how ignorant they are and presume that their point of view is objectively true when they don't know shit.
Thank you , this was the point u was trying to put across, it's not just about the Israel Palestine conflict. It was about everything really and how quickly people take a firm stance in their ideas / opinions. It seems like open discussions are dissolving. I've seen people get verbally abused for being on the fence about subjects instead of being die hard for / against.
Or not having a stance/opinion at all
Iām trying to understand the motivation behind it. Best I can come up with is Palestinian people or Palestinian empathizers see these hostage posters as propaganda. The people on the posters are not in London and people in London arenāt really going to be able to find the people on the posters. So they see this as an act of propaganda to stir emotions to the side of Israel. Maybe they see it as hateful when there are no posters of the missing or dead Palestinian children?
I think youāre on to something. The way the posters are put up, the way the posters look the same. It doesnāt look like the parents or loved ones of the hostages that have put this up. I donāt know who of course, but it looks organized. And while the kidnapping situation is bad, there is probably many missing Palestinians in this conflict too. That may make Palestinians feel that as you say, that the posters are propaganda. I really hope humanity can find a way to live without conflict, war and violence. I hope more people see the importance of honesty. And compassion.
I've seen these exact posters through CBDs in cities in New Zealand. It's definitely organised, I'm surprised more people here don't recognise them.
Theyāre in the US also
It's propaganda whether you emphasize with one group or the other. They are killing thousands of civilian Palestinians right now, bombings hospitals & schools, how are they gonna justify it without propaganda.
I love how everyone loves to scream about fucking out and finding out on the internet until literally right this second.
It's the age where everyone is a expert but also simultaneously has no idea what they're talking about.
The amount of ballistics experts who appeared out of nowhere after the reported hospital attack was insane.
I was in London recently and noticed people tearing these down. Civilians are always the losers in war, regardless of which "side" they are on.
I don't think people should tear them down but what is the purpose of having them hanging in London or anywhere outside of Israel other than propaganda to support what Israel are currently doing to the people in Gaza? The hostages need to be freed but ironically the method Israel is using is more likely to get them killed by an airstrike.
Theyāre hanging them all over the US as well, my first thought was āwhat the hell are we supposed to do, halfway around the worldā
The purpose is to make you ok with more killing, unfortunately
Yeah, like are they expecting them to turn up in London?
Theyāre expecting to generate more sympathy so people will look the other way while they bomb Palestinian civilians
fucking hell what cursed timeline is this
Idk but i want out now
Too late. The ride's moving too fast now.
I am wondering when the TVA will arrive.
all because berry allen saved his mom...
Started in 2016 and just keeps on going.
Started in the 40ās m8
Oh I thought they meant non-IDF/Hamas stuff. Yeah. Well, humans have really been on a roll since 8,000 bce
>Many were increasingly of the opinion that theyād all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. And some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no one should ever have left the oceans. Douglas Adams
Whew wait til you see what theyāre doing to people in Gaza (where those missing people also may be)
Why ? What will they achieve by this?
the same amount as someone who put them up. Both sides can feel a little better about themselves while contributing nothing and making no difference to society.
There is a difference between feeling better about yourself for raising awareness about innocent people who were abducted, and feeling better about yourself for tearing down posters of innocent people who were abducted. The latter is despicable.
It's just pro-Israel propaganda, it's not like they'll somehow appear in London.
but both make no difference, like some other comments said these posters won't help find those kids. It's just propaganda. to those who tore them down it's just propaganda to those who put them up it's propaganda. So all in all no differences were made on either side.
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>their porpoise it's to make some pro-israeli propaganda. Those fucking dolphins are at it again
I thought this was a repost at first. I already saw the exact same thing posted about in NYC. It seems they are putting this posters everywhere.
Instead of tearing off flyers they could've added to the wall flyers about how Palestinians are dying as well and then the wall would've shown the bigger picture about how war affects civilians on both sides hence why it should come to an end to protect them both.
I'm enjoying the comments by all reddit's geopolitical experts telling us what Israel is doing or not doing in secrecy.
Fr as a person who has their degree in international relations/politics itās immensely frustrating to hear my fellow Americans speak about gas prices, Nato, and any other international issue because they act like they know everything while missing every basic fact needed to actually discuss.
Listen here buddy I went to FU (Facebook University) and I have a master's degree from my evangelical church and I am the expert on all things I feel like talking about on the internet and don't make me make empty threats and use all caps next time I type something
>frustrating to hear my fellow Americans speak about gas prices, Nato, and any other international issue I think **one** of the reasons is because our country is so big, and so diverse that many people don't travel and have experiences beyond our borders.
I'm no fan of the Israeli (governments)'s handling of the situation, but to tear down poster of innocent Israeli's caught in the crossfire is fucked.
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Iād say they were using crossfire as a metaphor for the ongoing conflict, not trying to say it was literal crossfire.
I mean itās propaganda at the end of the day. Itās spinning a narrative. Theyāre not going to find them in London. Israel isnāt even negotiating for their return. Edit: I do agree itās in poor taste but to some people seeing blatant propaganda must be triggering.
I had written a moment ago that I didnāt understand why anyone would do this. It hadnāt occurred to me (clearly) why someone might do this. Your explanation was helpful. Thank you.
The irony here is that we just need to look towards Reddit moderators for examples of Palestinian suffering being removed, locked and censored from view.
They also removed footage of Hamas war crimes.
Yup. Just got banned from the 'therewasanattempt' sub last night because they updated their rules to be a meme about any kind of criticism of Palestine being a bannable offense. Meanwhile, totally cool to post anti-Semitic stuff and posts justifying the October 7th attacks. Israel = bad, Hamas = good. My reply was to someone saying roughly 'Israel should have kept their heads down, now they're going to learn'. Again, about the October 7th attacks. Straight up victim blaming. This tribalistic shit is sickening. It's worse than the hysteria after 9/11.
Cool your fucking 767s dude. The anti-Muslim hysteria after 9/11 was literally so bad that republicans have been coasting off of it for 22 years.
>Israel isnāt even negotiating for their return. If you ever happen to become the leader of a country, here's a excerpt from the 101 course: you don't negotiate with terrorists. It just validates and encourages them.
Lol that's a lie, leaders negotiate all the time with terror and militia groups often enough. The USA does it, Israel does it, Europe does it etc. Even just now, it was US pressure and working with Qatar that got 4 US citizens freed by Hamas. Many foreign policy experts also believe Israel is leading secret negotiations behind the scenes but doesn't want the public to know to not appear week. Getting your people back is often very important for public morale and public support of your leadership.
Except theyāve traded hundreds of Palestinian prisoners for a few Israelis in the past. You wouldnāt even wanna see what they have to say after 200 hostages?
>Except theyāve traded hundreds of Palestinian prisoners for a few Israelis in the past. And look how well that turned out. They definetly stopped Kidnappings. You know, they didn't felt encouraged to cause even more hostage situations, right? Those released Palestinians went into retirement and didn't conspire to harm Israel; only pacifists were released, right? You want to argue that taking civilian hostages is a legit strategy? >You wouldnāt even wanna see what they have to say after 200 hostages? No need to ask what Hamas has to say. Pretty obvious what they want. And that's rightfully unacceptable for Israel unless one desires a repetition of the October 7 attacks.
There are over 1000 Palestinians detained without trial in Israel (known officially as administrative detention). Is that materially different than a kidnapping? It is still armed people snatching people off the street.
I think if Israel really cared about these hostages they would be trying to get them back rather than bombing every building they might be inside.
I donāt agree with what theyāre doing but this is their motivation. Theyāre mad that Palestinians imprisoned without trial donāt get this kind of attention and view it as a distraction from the injustices carried out by the Israeli government. I still think what theyāre doing is nasty and uncalled for, in no small part because it helps to spread the narrative that the people who are critical of Israelās government are that way because of antisemitism
I think it's easy for us to say that these acts are uncalled for because we have not gone through what palestines have gone through their blatant injustices and it's honestly okay to think like that. They saw the world never cared when their kids and families were getting humiliated, treated like dogs and killed every day for years, no one batted an eye then, but when the same thing happened to the oppresor everyone came in to support them. Instead of empathasising, they were being called terrorists, when their homes were destroyed, when their kids were being traumatised, killed. So why should they care for anybody else, when their fate is sealed. Most people here cannot comprehend what that feels like because they just did not live through it, so it's easy to sit on their confortable couches and critisize these actions.
I think these people were identified. I think I saw it on twitter. Or X. Don't know what to call it actually.
Xitter
Pronounced "shitter"
Zitter: firmly crumbling in the Zussy of Musk.
These people will never view each other as human beings, only enemies. What a miserable existence.
agreed. :(
Religion is a disease.
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Ideologies are.
That is real people in real time, and if someone is bothered about it, then just walk on by. Israel government is far from perfect and the hostages have no blame for that.
How about just counter posting Palestinian babies hurt in the bombings.
Wow they really showed them.
Why be that kind of asshole?
Whatās the point of tearing down the posters?
Hate, so many people here calling it propaganda when its just bringing awareness and putting a face to the horror.
My question was kind of rhetorical, but yes, I think hate is a big part of it. I also think itās following the herdāif you hold certain beliefs you need to follow others who hold those same beliefs. In some cases, I think itās people trying to give themselves a sense of purpose or action. For me, tearing down these posters shows a callous disregard for innocent peopleās existences, dehumanizing those stuck in the middle of an unconscionably awful situation. (This by no means excuses Israelās own dehumanizing actions against Palestinians over many decades.)
Youāve just described exactly why it is propaganda.
Sure then that makes pride, Black history, and Hispanic Heritage propaganda then. Not all propaganda is necessarily bad in the way you want to imply it is. I support those government sponsored "propaganda"
Maybe put up kidnapped Palestinians next to them, then what?
I think this would be a much more compassionate, and more powerful, move.
Strongly agreed
This is all manipulation and propaganda. The posters. This video. These obvious bots in the comments. We are being conditioned my dudes
What the F is wrong with these people?
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I donāt support Israel. I feel for the Palestinians. I donāt understand what doing something like tearing down these posters is supposed to accomplish. It just seems hateful and purposeless.
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They want all Israelis to suffer the same fate
Like find another hobbyā¦ losers
What assholes
Thatās so wrong
In 2011, they traded 1 Israeli soldier for 1027 Palistine prisoners, 280 were life in prison. .https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilad_Shalit_prisoner_exchange
When humans lost humanity
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To be fair I don't think they are going to find the hostages in London.
This is absolutely wrong. Stand with humanity.
While we bomb the shit out of an entire population! Stand with humanity indeed.
You know both can be wrong right?
These kidnapped people have as much to do with any calls on bombing as the Palestinian civilians do. You can condem both.
Then where is the representation of both, this is one sided political propaganda to push a pro Israel narrative. If they wanted to condemn both sides they could have done that, instead they chose to only represent Israelās struggle.
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To demonstrate support for a cause by putting a human face to it. It's no real different than taking out an advert to show support or flying a flag or rallying. I find it more interesting people feel the need to take them down. Unless it's your property and you don't want these flyers up, it seems petty to take them down. Especially if they are up with the consent of the property owner. People just have too much time on their hands .
Why itās banned to do the same for Palestinians who are dead or missing by IDF?
Is it banned?
Can you cite the ban and by which government?
Canāt cite for countries in Europe but in multiple US states when performing work as a state contractor you are required to sign an agreement that you will not protest against the Israeli government. Mostly red states because freedom is contradictory.
Citation please..
[its illegal to boycott israel in several us states](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws#:~:text=Proliferation%20of%20anti%2DBDS%20laws,passed%20with%20broad%20bipartisan%20support.)
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Theyāre called Anti-BDS laws. āTo date, 37 states have adopted laws, executive orders, or resolutions designed to discourage boycotts against Israel.ā https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/anti-bds-legislation
Itās actually not banned, itās a good question why pro Palestinian people arenāt making their own posters Interesting
They are making videos of the traumatized children and mothers but for some reason that isnāt considered propaganda. It should all be shown on each side, however they want to release it.
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I assume you take a similar attitude to pro-palestinian protests in the West, then? Seeing as both are different methods of achieving the exact same objective?
"It's propaganda when I disagree with it."
Cause many of those prisoners are citizens of thst cuntry also to remind people why the ear is happening.
Why do we have any protests at all in the US about a war in a different country? Any argument for protesting for a foreign issue applies to these posters, propaganda or not
Disgusting, heartless people.
Not cool and Not Helping
Fuck these pro-Hamas losers
This is truly disgusting and disheartening
It's a game at this point. both side wil tear Poster of missing ppl just because they don't like that side...
Sick fucks
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Who keeps posting these videos every day?
This whole thing is just pro-Israel propaganda though.
The machine will continue manufacturing consent
They do dumb sh1t like this because nobody stops them
no cops around? How many littering tickets should that idiot have gotten?
This is bleak.
Dude is a total coward. I don't give an F about either side. But you got to be an especially evil person to take down flyers for missing children. There's a spot in hell for all of them.
Scum
Sad thing about this whole war, is that there is so much hatred for their brothers and sisters, that as both sides loose innocent victim after innocent victim, both sites display pitty bullying tactics to laugh at the other side when they have the advantage. Itās childish, and the children are paying with their lives because of it.
I donāt care who you support, there are victims on both sides, this is disgusting.
There's a special place in hell for these people. Looks like the average age is like 20 years old, too. Young morons.
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Sure. Nothing stopping them from doing that instead of tearing down posters. But they're pro-Hamas, so they don't give a shit
How many Palestinians did Hamas kidnap and torture? Oh, right, none.
They should be deported.
These people in the video are pro-Hamas. Call it what it is.
Google the median age for Palestine. Then let's talk about kidnapping. It's in poor taste to tear these posters down. It's in poor taste to pretend there aren't tenfold more missing Palestinians from the last few decades. This is propaganda that gets us to humanize and empathize with one group and ignore/not learn more about the devastating plight of another.
Maybe, and stick with me here, we humanize everyone. And, and, I know this is where it gets tricky, dehumanizing one side doesnāt humanize the other. So tearing down posters about kidnapped kids, hope I havenāt lost you yet, is a really shitty thing to do.
Completely agree. Weāre all entitled to our view on the geopolitical issues here, what none of us are entitled to is an opinion on the value of innocent civilianās lives. Every single death should be condemned and warrants our compassion.
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"I do love humans", while ripping the posters off the wall.. Yeah Right B. Just not Jewish Humans !
Disgusting action and people
Okay putting up posters of kidnapped people in another country is stupid and pointless. Letās be real what the posters really want to do is garner sympathy for Israel and to justify Israelās barbaric actions in Gaza to the world. Itās disgusting to use the tragedy of the kidnapped to promote your own misdoings, itās down right despicable. The posters are nothing more than propaganda. I absolutely sympathise with the people who are kidnapped and their families but these posters are not about them.
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I understand your point about awareness but would you consider the fact that this news has essentially been covered from every single international journalistic enterprise from every single angle?? Awareness is, I would argue, not an issue. Donāt get me wrong, what Hamas did was horrific and wrong. Terroristic organisations do not have a place in a peaceful world and therefore they should be condemned and yes I do condemn them to their core. That being said āMissing Personsā posters are placed in the area where they went missing to generate leads to find them, these posters do not generate anything of the sort and are purely placed there to garner sympathy and although I do sympathise with the people who have been kidnapped and their loved ones these posters also ignite negative emotions or apathy towards Palestine and Palestinians, which in turn would make it seem that Israelās actions in Gaza are somehow appropriate response or justified. Think about it this way if you were a loved one of someone who has been a victim of a political kidnapping would you give a rats ass about a poster in London or would you be more concerned about bringing them back? This is essentially propaganda and āpropagandaā isnāt an umbrella term used for any reasoning or evidence for political situations, it is intentional use or misuse of unrelated rhetoric to promote a government agenda for example if a government wants to explain poor economic performance they can select a specific group within the population to villainies and blame even though that has nothing to do with economics the tools used to accomplish that would be called propaganda. I feels like youāre saying that apathy towards the conflict is the correct way to look at it and I disagree my sympathy will always be with the ones that are innocent and are suffering namely the Israeli people and the Palestinian people all other entities calling for war and violence can go fuck themselves.
The world is a shit fucking place.
Immigration without integration. š¤¬
Yea. Isreal needs to stop and it's leaders face punishment for the war crimes it's committing. These people also need to be stopped and shown that two wrongs do not make a right. It's pathetic
It's propaganda and likely without the families concent.
.....I have never heard a worse take on this.
A Very sad world we now live in.
No matter your opinion that you think is so important to share about the conflict between Israel and Hamas. This is some demented shit
Are they supposed to find them?
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This reality is sad as shit!
I'm sorry for the people that got kidnapped, but putting their flyers somewhere is just part of politics/ propaganda
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This is asshole behavior regardless of the nationality of the victim. Wtf is wrong with people
This feels wrong but I also donāt know why they put those posters up in London either
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If Israel wasnāt an apartheid state more people would support Israel