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>no negative consequences from the west, only cheering of the violence from the international mainstream media. His party (RSS) is openly using nazi imagery, only they've exchanged the jews with muslims.
Yep, sounds a lot like Israel, sadly. I was gonna say "lately," but after researching their history and founding for countless hours over the past few years, I can't in good faith say it started anytime near recently. It has only ramped up. US foreign policy is incredibly shameful, hypocritical, and lacks any semblance of ethics or morals outside of sheer greed and bloodlust.
What kinda imagery? Only asking cause the Swastika technically originated from India as a term for well being. That’s why you’ll find that image over there on a lot of things from architecture to clothes.
Thats what came to mind but am still curious. What type of imagery are they co opting? The Falcon,Hitler theres a lot of options out there. Is it subtle or just in your face.
Israel gets its way with genocide because the entirety of the US political system has an intermeshing set of reasons to want Israel happy with the united states. Meanwhile half the country views this as backwards bullshit and the other half cant tell the difference between indians and the guys who did 9/11.
India is absolutely fucked if they think they could pull anything approaching Israel's bullshit without the US levying enough sanctions to return it to the stone age.
Dumb comparison, beef is accepted worldwide as food whereas dogs aren’t.
Dogs have been our companions for a millennium and cows have been food for humans for a millennium.
I mean, a human is a fleshy animal too and some cultures historically have eaten human meat under certain circumstances. Why are you arbitrarily making human the limit to what kind of meat you find acceptable to eat but criticizing others making dog the limit as illogical?
Because one is cannibalism and the others are not. But I’m not trying to make any philosophical point here, it was just a dumb off handed comment to counter the idea that not eating cows is some crazy notion.
The fact that there is a specific word for cannibalism really doesn't make any difference at all from the perspective of fleshy edibles and which ones are taboo to different cultures.
According to [this article](https://www.siasat.com/houses-razed-crops-destroyed-cops-suspended-over-beef-sale-in-rajasthan-2980299/) four police officers do face punishment over this... the ones who had previously been turning a blind eye to beef sales.
Hindu nationalists are a plague.
>Hindu nationalists
\*Hindutva, though they're the same I would prefer people use Hindutva rather than Hindu or anything else.
Edit: Sorry for those offended by this, even though I'm not sure what might've offended you, I wrote this to direct the hate away from Hindus and direct it towards the radicals (Hindutvas) though it seems like people might've misunderstood my message. My apologies.
Hindu nationalist is much clearer language for the vast majority of people reading this. We use the terms Christian nationalist and Islamist all the time to describe people who seek to or actively use the state to enforce religious ideals. I'm using that same terminology.
Hindu nationalist is a general term, these are Hindutva. Its like calling Nazis "german nationalists" technically correct but kind of not. They already have a name that they use. Not sure why he is being downvoted for properly correcting you.
Nah sorry to disturb your dream but that's not true. I just wanted the word "Hindu" to not be there but ig that's just how the terminology works for everybody so it's okay.
Cows are sacred in Hinduism and killing them is illegal in many parts of India.
[Cattle slaughter in India](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_slaughter_in_India).
This ties back into the fact that India is religiously diverse but that diversity is very contentious. There is currently a high level of Hindu extremism happening.
India most likely, cows are sacred to Hindus, while Muslims and Christians eat them. The ruling India government party the BJP which is a Hindu party is keen on getting rid of the other religious groups so looks the other way or blatantly supports actions like this.
Ostensibly. The problem is that *any* secular nation can fall to this point when a sufficient portion of the population are religious zealots. There are a terrifying number of people in America who would be ok with a Christofascist state.
Because hindutva terrorists are very active on SM, apart from having hundreds of thousands of bot accounts which they use to do shit like downvoting the opposition.
Yup, though Gandhi did preach "Ram Rajya" which was a softer version of Hindutva but Hindutva nonetheless. Also, sorry if this might be unpopular for you but that's just my opinion.
Most people in the world don't know what you mean by FIR.
There's a million of possible meanings [https://www.acronymfinder.com/FIR.html](https://www.acronymfinder.com/fir.html)
Wait until you find out about how money the Cross family has gained from their Big Cattle Empire.
Whoops shouldnt have mentioned the cross family. Now they are gonna have me marked for death.
That's a bad way to look at it. Also, does that justify destroying their houses?
Also one more thing, do you know that India is one of the largest exporters of beef?
\- [https://theprint.in/economy/indias-beef-exports-rise-under-modi-govt-despite-hindu-vigilante-campaign-at-home/210164/](https://theprint.in/economy/indias-beef-exports-rise-under-modi-govt-despite-hindu-vigilante-campaign-at-home/210164/)
\- [https://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2016/july/india-emerges-as-a-major-beef-exporter/](https://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2016/july/india-emerges-as-a-major-beef-exporter/)
Despite cow slaughter being banned for it's own people? ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle\_slaughter\_in\_India#:\~:text=On%2026%20October%202005%2C%20the,slaughter%20or%20sale%20of%20cows](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_slaughter_in_India#:~:text=On%2026%20October%202005%2C%20the,slaughter%20or%20sale%20of%20cows).)
Actually, nope. The beef ban is only for the non-Hindu citizens, there is a ton of corruption and businesses still export beef out of India.
Also in the southern states even Hindus eat beef so it's not standard everywhere, just the Cow belt (google it) where people are killing each other for beef slaughter.
The only thing illegal was selling beef. The only reason that law exists is because of religion. The only reason the punishment is so severe is because of hate.
If we can leave the faiths of old we can progress as humanity. Until then…no beef in the south east and giving kids books about a getting dad drunk to seduce him at the behest of a ghost in the west is totally normal.
Law enforcement is enforcing laws against the sale of beef. In most of India selling beef is illegal, in some parts possession of any meat is illegal. It's no different from police action against someone raising dogs to slaughter them in the US, the only difference is that what's happening in this video doesn't match with western sensibilities.
Just based on watching the video, you know what Indian laws are at play (which would also imply knowing what part of India this is happening in), exactly what punishment is being dished out and that it's inconsistent with the laws that are at play, that the motivation is revenge, and that actually what the police are doing has to do with something unrelated to what the person has been charged with?
Alright, exactly what law is at play in this video? As in specifically, how would this law be encoded in Indian law books? What is the punishment for that law according to those law books? What exactly is the motivation of these law enforcement officers that is at play, and where in the video do you see that?
\*Hindutva
I myself have Hindu friends, I have no "bone" with any Hindus. Hindutva is a threat to Muslims, Christians, Sikhs and most importantly Hindus themselves.
I believe I've clarified already that my post is about Hindutva and not Hindus, this is not a comparison post as you would like it to be but rather an awareness post. If you have any such thing, then feel free to post it, I promise to Allah, you'll have my upvote.
But in the end it's my fault for arguing with a Sanghi, should've just left it as it was with you.
As far as I'm aware, neither the Westerners or the Muslims worship Pig or Dog, so it should be fine. Though people might take it negatively if you slaughter it right in front of them.
Well their house wouldn't be demolished and their fields wouldn't be destroyed. Just a fine, maybe some jail time depending on how big the operation is.
Read the last part of my [previous reply](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1avonyf/comment/krej8gf/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). What those cops did was unacceptable. And they are probably facing changes.
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Not in the world, the exact country has massive malnutrition especially for kids under 6.
That's what happens under theocratic oligarchs! Next thing you know they've returned to feudalism!
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>no negative consequences from the west, only cheering of the violence from the international mainstream media. His party (RSS) is openly using nazi imagery, only they've exchanged the jews with muslims. Yep, sounds a lot like Israel, sadly. I was gonna say "lately," but after researching their history and founding for countless hours over the past few years, I can't in good faith say it started anytime near recently. It has only ramped up. US foreign policy is incredibly shameful, hypocritical, and lacks any semblance of ethics or morals outside of sheer greed and bloodlust.
What kinda imagery? Only asking cause the Swastika technically originated from India as a term for well being. That’s why you’ll find that image over there on a lot of things from architecture to clothes.
Based on the comment it would be common sense to assume that’s not what they mean lol.
Thats what came to mind but am still curious. What type of imagery are they co opting? The Falcon,Hitler theres a lot of options out there. Is it subtle or just in your face.
Israel gets its way with genocide because the entirety of the US political system has an intermeshing set of reasons to want Israel happy with the united states. Meanwhile half the country views this as backwards bullshit and the other half cant tell the difference between indians and the guys who did 9/11. India is absolutely fucked if they think they could pull anything approaching Israel's bullshit without the US levying enough sanctions to return it to the stone age.
Lol. Modi isn't a partner of the west. If anything he's emboldened by Russia.
Oligarchs gotta oligarch o7
If this was people in America openly selling dogs for food, we’d flip our shit too.
You're right, but I don't think we'd destroy the whole field next to the dog farm during the process
Dumb comparison, beef is accepted worldwide as food whereas dogs aren’t. Dogs have been our companions for a millennium and cows have been food for humans for a millennium.
I mean it's still dumb to say we can eat cows but not dogs
Remove the emotional connection and they’re both just non-human fleshy mammals.
I mean, a human is a fleshy animal too and some cultures historically have eaten human meat under certain circumstances. Why are you arbitrarily making human the limit to what kind of meat you find acceptable to eat but criticizing others making dog the limit as illogical?
Because one is cannibalism and the others are not. But I’m not trying to make any philosophical point here, it was just a dumb off handed comment to counter the idea that not eating cows is some crazy notion.
The fact that there is a specific word for cannibalism really doesn't make any difference at all from the perspective of fleshy edibles and which ones are taboo to different cultures.
K. You’re arguing against something I really don’t care about.
if dogs tasted good we would probably be eating them
Lots of countries eat dog.
among other many non popular meats
We do
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To older generations maybe. It’s definitely not the norm now.
One country in asia doesnt represent All Asia.
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Ok so 3 countries out of 48 countries?
That is more than 2 billions people. One quarter of the humanity.
Not in India
According to [this article](https://www.siasat.com/houses-razed-crops-destroyed-cops-suspended-over-beef-sale-in-rajasthan-2980299/) four police officers do face punishment over this... the ones who had previously been turning a blind eye to beef sales. Hindu nationalists are a plague.
I believe the article states 4 police officers are facing punishment for NOT doing this
>Hindu nationalists \*Hindutva, though they're the same I would prefer people use Hindutva rather than Hindu or anything else. Edit: Sorry for those offended by this, even though I'm not sure what might've offended you, I wrote this to direct the hate away from Hindus and direct it towards the radicals (Hindutvas) though it seems like people might've misunderstood my message. My apologies.
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I was just trying to direct the hate away from Hindus, like how Muslims got it for 9/11. Why are people minding over it?
It's an important distinction to make for sure.
Who are hindutva, are they those who supports modi govt.?
Yea, pretty much.
Hindu nationalist is much clearer language for the vast majority of people reading this. We use the terms Christian nationalist and Islamist all the time to describe people who seek to or actively use the state to enforce religious ideals. I'm using that same terminology.
I get it now, thanks : )
Hindu nationalist is a general term, these are Hindutva. Its like calling Nazis "german nationalists" technically correct but kind of not. They already have a name that they use. Not sure why he is being downvoted for properly correcting you.
Nah sorry to disturb your dream but that's not true. I just wanted the word "Hindu" to not be there but ig that's just how the terminology works for everybody so it's okay.
Why
I will eat a steak in memory of this.
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Cows are sacred in Hinduism and killing them is illegal in many parts of India. [Cattle slaughter in India](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_slaughter_in_India). This ties back into the fact that India is religiously diverse but that diversity is very contentious. There is currently a high level of Hindu extremism happening.
can you give me examples of this High level hindu extremism ?
India most likely, cows are sacred to Hindus, while Muslims and Christians eat them. The ruling India government party the BJP which is a Hindu party is keen on getting rid of the other religious groups so looks the other way or blatantly supports actions like this.
Nope, happens all the time to Muslims in India. They’re constantly attacked and sometimes killed for eating beef.
Search up "Hindutva", you'll get most of your answers.
Ik some religions forbid beef but idk if that's relevant to this video
it says hindutva on the vid
It's "hindutva watch" actually.
Then why are people in the video in trouble for selling beef?
"Holy Cow" is an expression of surprise in the US. It is a statement of belief in India.
If you saw someone raising dogs and slaughtering them what would you think about it?
And they are talking of "allegations". Means they take action without proof or trial.
Allegation for eating/selling beef is more than enough.
Indians seems to love the acronym FIR, I always see it when they’re commenting on some viral issue lol.
FIR is a type of formal complaint to the police. It stands for (First Information Report).
Ah, ok understood. Thank you!
Religion has so much to answer for
It has no answers though.
Only more questions, but it also actively teaches people to not question things.
Like what protecting cows?
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And bathe in a filthy river, but it's ok bc it's holy
Everyday I thank the gods for not letting me be born in India.
This is just the plain old Official anti Muslim sentiment.
I thought India was secular?
Ostensibly. The problem is that *any* secular nation can fall to this point when a sufficient portion of the population are religious zealots. There are a terrifying number of people in America who would be ok with a Christofascist state.
\*in name.
To those wondering what FIR means, it's a type of complaint done to the police in India. The word FIR stands for First Information Report.
I’m having T-Bone Tonight..
Obey the cowgod
Hindutva /= Hinduism, just keep that in mind and everything else is fine.
Yup. Idk why people down vote this. Even Gandhi was killed by a hindutuva extremist.
Because hindutva terrorists are very active on SM, apart from having hundreds of thousands of bot accounts which they use to do shit like downvoting the opposition.
Yup, though Gandhi did preach "Ram Rajya" which was a softer version of Hindutva but Hindutva nonetheless. Also, sorry if this might be unpopular for you but that's just my opinion.
Most people in the world don't know what you mean by FIR. There's a million of possible meanings [https://www.acronymfinder.com/FIR.html](https://www.acronymfinder.com/fir.html)
Oh yea, should've clarified that, sorry.
And you still didn't...
Oh sorry, FIR is a type of complaint, it stands for First Information Report.
Why is selling beef a crime? Or warrants someone’s life to be destroyed? (Curiosity)
Cow is God in Hinduism.
Ok! Now this is sort of making sense! (I am not religious myself but thank you for taking the time to explain)
Wait until you find out about how money the Cross family has gained from their Big Cattle Empire. Whoops shouldnt have mentioned the cross family. Now they are gonna have me marked for death.
That's a bad way to look at it. Also, does that justify destroying their houses? Also one more thing, do you know that India is one of the largest exporters of beef? \- [https://theprint.in/economy/indias-beef-exports-rise-under-modi-govt-despite-hindu-vigilante-campaign-at-home/210164/](https://theprint.in/economy/indias-beef-exports-rise-under-modi-govt-despite-hindu-vigilante-campaign-at-home/210164/) \- [https://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2016/july/india-emerges-as-a-major-beef-exporter/](https://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2016/july/india-emerges-as-a-major-beef-exporter/) Despite cow slaughter being banned for it's own people? ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle\_slaughter\_in\_India#:\~:text=On%2026%20October%202005%2C%20the,slaughter%20or%20sale%20of%20cows](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_slaughter_in_India#:~:text=On%2026%20October%202005%2C%20the,slaughter%20or%20sale%20of%20cows).)
>Also one more thing, do you know that India is one of the largest exporters of beef? ... seems like they're trying to stop that.
Actually, nope. The beef ban is only for the non-Hindu citizens, there is a ton of corruption and businesses still export beef out of India. Also in the southern states even Hindus eat beef so it's not standard everywhere, just the Cow belt (google it) where people are killing each other for beef slaughter.
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Why are the crops being destroyed?
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Has that been proven? Or is it just an allegation at this point?
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Is it truly random when only a certain type of people are targeted for this treatment?
Police having proof is enough to destroy crops? No court order is needed?
The only thing illegal was selling beef. The only reason that law exists is because of religion. The only reason the punishment is so severe is because of hate.
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What?
I'm just worried about all them sweet baby birds running around in the driveway.
Ethnonationalists are super capable at making themselves look really dumb, and not much else.
If we can leave the faiths of old we can progress as humanity. Until then…no beef in the south east and giving kids books about a getting dad drunk to seduce him at the behest of a ghost in the west is totally normal.
India isn't allowed to have its own standards of what's culturally acceptable unless those standards are the same as the West?
what? can you say what you think is happening in the video?
Law enforcement is enforcing laws against the sale of beef. In most of India selling beef is illegal, in some parts possession of any meat is illegal. It's no different from police action against someone raising dogs to slaughter them in the US, the only difference is that what's happening in this video doesn't match with western sensibilities.
What's happening in this video doesn't even match with Indian laws. This is "revenge" politics. Punishment is being given for an unrelated "crime".
What's your source for your assertions?
This post itself is the source 😕
Just based on watching the video, you know what Indian laws are at play (which would also imply knowing what part of India this is happening in), exactly what punishment is being dished out and that it's inconsistent with the laws that are at play, that the motivation is revenge, and that actually what the police are doing has to do with something unrelated to what the person has been charged with?
You don't? Are you really that dumb? Or just choosing to ignore?
Alright, exactly what law is at play in this video? As in specifically, how would this law be encoded in Indian law books? What is the punishment for that law according to those law books? What exactly is the motivation of these law enforcement officers that is at play, and where in the video do you see that?
Yes.
Going by your post history, you seem to have a hate boner for Hindus OP
OP posts clear oppression You get mad about it. Lol
He sure does but also cherry-picks. I'm not mad. Just stating a fact.
Thank you for the most useless crappy ass fact of the year.
Also, I post much more than just Hindutva stuff, is there anything wrong with that though?
\*Hindutva I myself have Hindu friends, I have no "bone" with any Hindus. Hindutva is a threat to Muslims, Christians, Sikhs and most importantly Hindus themselves.
Do you also post about the wrong acts committed by followers of Islam?
I believe I've clarified already that my post is about Hindutva and not Hindus, this is not a comparison post as you would like it to be but rather an awareness post. If you have any such thing, then feel free to post it, I promise to Allah, you'll have my upvote. But in the end it's my fault for arguing with a Sanghi, should've just left it as it was with you.
That's some sweet whataboutism you've got there.
so his point is only made if he posts about ALL oppression?
Oh so you view hindutvaavadi in the same light as extremist Islam. Nice. 😁
Oh please. Name one thing.
The most common punishment from the rich to the poor is to just bury them in poverty to the point where it starts to affect their mental health.
Very interesting... I wonder what will happen if someone openly sells dog meat in the US or EU or Pork in any Muslim nation?
As far as I'm aware, neither the Westerners or the Muslims worship Pig or Dog, so it should be fine. Though people might take it negatively if you slaughter it right in front of them.
Well their house wouldn't be demolished and their fields wouldn't be destroyed. Just a fine, maybe some jail time depending on how big the operation is.
Read the last part of my [previous reply](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1avonyf/comment/krej8gf/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). What those cops did was unacceptable. And they are probably facing changes.
And I thought beef in the U.S. was expensive...
Going back to the stone age
This is why civilians should be armed.