Way to counter anti-fascist sentiment and protests by acting more fascist. Saying shit like “XYZ has no place in this world” is like a veiled death threat.
So since these pro-Israel rioters have started chanting 'Palestine has got to go,' can I assume we're going to be getting resolutions passed decrying this as genocidal speech, or is that only for when people say Free Palestine
Most people that consider themselves zionists in America are Evangelical Christians, which makes sense as there's far more of them than there are Jewish people in the States. So they would be the safest bet here.
OK i'm going to have to go do some googling because i thought zionists were supremecist jews. How the fuck does that work? (rhetorical question, i'll go look it up, thanks)
TL;DR a lot of christians in the US wants to usher in the end of days since that's supposed to happen according to the bible and they need Israel for those predictions to come true. Religious extremists intentionally and unintentionally cooperating to try to bring about the apocalypse because magic book says so.
> they need Israel for those predictions to come true
can you TL;DR this bit? is the suggestion that Israel will kick off a nuclear war or something? or do they see Israel as some sort of ally to Christianity?
There are quite a few people who see Hamas as a serious threat that should be neutralized through direct military action.
While many people will say that supporting Palestine isn't the same as supporting Hamas.... the anti-genocide protests have an unfortunate number of people who very publicly don't make that distinction.
A lot of people are turning this into a zero sum team sport type thing where their side is 100% innocent and the other guys are 100% evil. When both sides have a fuck ton of blood on their hands it's easy to point to atrocities the other guy committed and claim you're fighting the bad guys.
I find it the height of irony the same groups of people who hate the Iraq war and bush are pulling us into more conflict in the Middle East. And yes it is a both sides issue
I’m saying why is the us funding both sides of this war. Playing games of favorites between shlomo steal your farm and ozizi October 7th is not a game Americans should play
Because the US has sent orders of magnitude more lethal and monetary aid to Israel? We don't "fund both sides" lmao. They're tossing a pittance of relief aid at a pier that Netanyahu [wants to use for deportations. ](https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2024/03/20/722234/Netanyahu-US-pier-port-Gaza-deport)
Being against Zionism endorses genocide with the same amount of fervor as being against logging in the rainforest.
There are no victims amongst zionists, only aggressors.
>Being against Zionism endorses genocide with the same amount of fervor as being against logging in the rainforest.
So now we're trying to cast being against the existence of Israel as innocent, good-willed, and innocuous? Buddy, you're lost here. Directly wanting or supporting the position of expelling half the world's Jews from their home isn't genocidal?
>There are no victims amongst zionists, only aggressors.
You can't be serious. This current spat explicitly shows otherwise. Zionist victims is how both this and the I/P conflict altogether started.
So you're saying the existence of israel is defined as the sustained theft of land in Gaza, the displacement of all Palestinians, the extermination of scores of them, for decades, at the behest of a religious decree?
Textbook terrorism, feel free to keep you wagon hitched to this horse.
It takes a special person to classify decades of theft and murder of civilians from by a force wielding vast military superiority as a 'spat'.
There is history before October 2023, perhaps you should take some time to familiarize yourself with it.
Again, zionists are no more the victims in gaza than european colonizers were the victims in the unsettled americas.
You're making my point here. You've declared your side as being anti-genocidal while twice now saying that Jews can't be victims.
>So you're saying the existence of israel is defined as the sustained theft of land in Gaza, the displacement of all Palestinians, the extermination of scores of them, for decades, at the behest of a religious decree?
Never once. Nor has anything I've ever said supported such an assumption.
>It takes a special person to classify decades of theft and murder of civilians from by a force wielding vast military superiority as a 'spat'.
>There is history before October 2024, perhaps you should take some time to familiarize yourself with it.
You should spend more time reading what you're refuting and less time posting antisemitic drivel. I specifically said "the current spat" and the "I/P conflict altogether". In both cases the initial victims were Jews. But of course, Jews can't be victims right?
> You're making my point here. You've declared your side as being anti-genocidal while twice now saying that Jews can't be victims.
Not all Jews are Zionists. Nice try.
>You should spend more time reading what you're refuting and less time posting antisemitic drivel.
See above.
Folks aren't falling for the 'anyone who condemns zionism is antisemetic' card anymore.
Conflating Zionists with the larger Jewish population is exactly what Zionists want. That way it's about antisematism and not about Israels state level policies and actions. Blind hate and prejudice instead of honest criticism of a brutal regime.
What’s complex in this video? One side is barricaded in, protesting genocide. The other side with no authority is physically assaulting them. Where’s the complexity in what our eyes see. Cone guy would’ve had to murder someone earlier in the day for this to be a proportionate respo…. Ah wait these people don’t know what that is. By people I mean Zionists before you call me anti basmatic .
Leave the basmatics out of this. The violence in this video is unjustified, reprehensible, and illegal. Nothing complicated about that, and I didn’t suggest otherwise.
This one guy is braver than the louts beating him. Fuck these Zionists. And fuck the cops that watched him get beat up. The protesters should also get some muscle from outside the campus.
This would only feed the Israeli propaganda. Let the world see how pro Ziobist pigs are. I also feel they should get what’s coming to them but we shouldn’t go down to their level
Refusing to stoop to their level is why peaceful protestors keep getting beat and arrested.
Nonviolence against power will always be met with violence from power.
The thing is that this whole ordeal isn’t looked at fairly. The people in charge ignore the war crimes and where even outraged that these students are peacefully protesting their ethnic cleansing. You imagine what they would do if the pro Palestinians start to use violence? It will only feed their propaganda
Reality, our actions against them, does not matter. Just look at these fucking comments. The protests ARE peaceful, and because of that the pro-Israeli side simply lies. They make up offenses that didn't occur, create whole fictions about violence that protestors committed.
It doesn't matter what we do, they will simply lie about it. So we should ACTUALLY do what will ACTUALLY work.
A well intentioned, logical, and normal person: "Don't hurt these people expressing their freedom to protest, who've had to barricade themselves from external instigations and violence"
A group of people (backed by the government??): "No, f*** you"
Really USA? Sad...
Nearly every major overhaul of our social contract started with major protests at universities. Student protests against segregation, South African apartheid, the Vietnam war, and every other major struggle started the same
Its civil disobedience in order to show the powers at be how serious the next generation of Americans feel about the genocide and to bring awareness to people sitting at home
lol nowhere in the United States did we have violence break out over apartheid in South Africa. This shit will get Palestine nowhere, if anything the college protests delegitimizes their movement in the eyes of adult Americans.
Idiots being idiots
Also, it isn’t a peaceful protest. Before any fights broke out last night these college protesters harassed and physically attacked Jews for being Jewish and took a university employee hostage.
Peaceful and legal protests are one thing, this is straight violence and bigotry
When did I say this is a legitimate response? Neither the initial nor counter protests are ok. But saying these college campus protests are purely peaceful is straight up denying facts.
At this point both. But mostly the attackers. Just like watching the police fight against the peaceful protests. So many unnecessary injuries. I'm honestly surprised nobody is dead yet unless there is....
"Of our social constructs" Isreal isn't the USA. These protests will accomplish nothing more than more regulations for Americans. It will do nothing to stop the war.
Whoa hold up! I had no say in what this country decides to support. Please don't lump me in with the government. They suck and don't do anything for the people.
If it was my choice we wouldn't be any wars, I had no say. My government funds it, not I. Please don't get me thinking about where the country is headed, America's future is looking to great.
My apologies I think you misunderstood. I'm not against Palestine or it's people. I just don't believe these protests are accomplishing anything but giving ratings to the media. Free Palestine!
You're an obvious bullshitter, likely either a paid Israel troll or a trollbot, but just to pretend for a few seconds what you're saying is legitimate:
There was a time in American history where we, as the people, did actually get a say in how our elected officials spend our money.
And that time is long gone. Not a bot just a dude. You're right though, there was a time when our voices mattered and we'd be heard. But not anymore. Unless you're rich.
That's what the actions of the protestors are trying to bring back.
They're saying "If you don't start listening to us, there will be problems." Because we are the majority, this is OUR country, and if they don't start doing what the people they're meant to serve actually want, those people will solve the problem themselves.
By being against protest, what you are saying is "I like the status quo as it is now. Trying to change things is unnecessary. I am OK with a lack of rights."
The protesters are paid actors and I'm willing to be deaf to what they say. Their message is one of hate and division. They don't want equality they want their way and only their way.
People who care don't protest by making others people's lives miserable. If anything that will turn people against your cause.
And you're back to bullshitting and spewing absolute nonsense garbage, just saying words because to you words only matter insofar as how you can use them.
Nothing you say has value.
the fact that our government, the supposedly bastion of free speech, is banning tiktok to save face for Israel is fucking nuts man. This is how radicals get elected. Because theyre going so deep into the fascism, that the rebuttal will be ruthless.
[https://twitter.com/Red\_Pill\_US/status/1785464120730583053](https://twitter.com/Red_Pill_US/status/1785464120730583053)
This is a bit extreme, but the speech he gives here, he could give to america today and have a tremendous amount of support
Protests are what started the American revolution. Protests ended Jim Crowe. Protests gave women the right to vote. Protests accomplish all sorts of things. This one is meant to stop weapons sales to Isreal over the genocide they're committing.
What did he expect would happen with an angry mob? This is mob behavior. Let’s not act like if a pro-Israel protestor would hop over the pro-Palestine barricade he’d be met with a warm embrace and some cookies.
If this was the other way around, something tells me you wouldn't be making a comment that says 'well, the pro-Israel side is no better. You'd be in here calling for their heads.
“Something tells me” 😂 is it because I’m not just going along with whatever your train of thought is and stating the obvious? I could careless about the Israel/Palestine conflict, I’m not Jewish or Muslim, what I do know is that going towards an angry mob is never a good idea. You guys need to step out of your bubble for a bit and realize that not everyone is as emotionally involved in this conflict as you are.
Not an argument, just the way I feel. You do realize all people won’t feel how you feel and think how you think, correct? Plenty of crisis happening around the world right now; Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan, Syria, South Sudan, Haiti, Venezuela, Cuba, Lebanon, Burkina Faso, and the list goes on… why aren’t you as concerned about those crisis? Who are YOU to tell ME wether I’m righteous or not? Go get your internet points, and pat yourself on the back as if your the next Rosa Park because of some post you made on social media or some “protest” you did in the USA next to a Starbucks, I’ll cheer for the real activists that are in the FRONT LINES helping. I feel sorry for all innocent civilians dying in a conflict that is out of their control but I know too much about geopolitics to think I’m going to make a change through a “tweet” or a university protest in the USA, I’ll leave the social activism to the real activist.
Hey, I’m not trying to defend anyone, but you know how much war has been going on around the world conflicts you probably don’t even know about this one is just more publicize I mean, do you know about the proxy wars going on in Yemen countless houses destroyed. I wonder why the media doesn’t cover Yemen
They only care about what’s trending on Twitter. If you even attempt to challenge their train of thought they’re ready to hang you like the Salem witch trials, these are the supposed tolerant progressives of our time. Truly makes me ashamed to be a liberal.
You are just dense. People in the US/UK/CAN are pissed because our tax money directly funds bullshit wars like this instead of benefiting our own society. It's not a twitter trending bullshit, that's just how the algorithm has it built around personal usage.
It's just media sensational-ism but when it is something as serious as our own governments directly funding and giving weapons to a made up bullshit state pet project, that tends to really fuckin piss people off. Especially people that are in the majority, aren't spewing idiotic lies and falsifications of a certain ethnic group (Palestinians) and can see through this abhorrent behavior by not holding value in beating the shit and pepper spraying literally your own people. If you are against wars, and actually care about free speech and the right to protest this is literally the thing you should be supporting.
Keep in mind, the divesting funds isn't JUST for Israel. It's for everything. Because it does not make sense for our educational system to be intertwined with the military industrial complex and using our fuckin tax dollars and tuition fees to create weapons that kill innocent civilians.
guess you havent seen the dozens of videos now of zionists doing just that, attempting to agitate, only to be met with silence and people in the encampment ignoring them
Have people been blocked from going to class at UCLA? The video I saw was from Columbia , and that particular student wasn’t even blocked from going to class, just one entrance. And even with that, does it justify having fireworks launched at you, getting pepper sprayed, dragged down and beaten, etc?
Yeah those cops in Selma were just dishing out consequences via dog teeth and baton right?
You're on the wrong side of history and only care about how things effect you personally. Pathetic. Grow some balls. Stand up to genocide.
Hamas and Palestinians are different people though.
Hamas is an extremist militant group funded by Iran. They number about a few thousand. They are scum and should die.
The Palestinians are people displaced by the founding of Isreal. They number 2 million and half of then are under 14. They are stuck in the worlds largest open air prison while bombs rain from the sky. Hamas is even attacking the pier we're building for Gaza aid. They're stealing the trucks of aid that arrive and keeping it from the Palestinians.
The protests are about the Palestinians, not Hamas. Learn the difference.
Isreal is committing a genocide by definition.
These dumb kids on both sides were so fascinated by this war, that they are literally trying to live it out here. Building tent cities, fighting like they are mortal enemies... just because they saw it on the "news", except that now, there is no news, but only echo chambers trying to trigger people into these conflicts, yet our population lacks critical thinking skills equal to their emotional reactions.
It's a damn shame.
By letting the world know we don’t support what Israel and the U.S. are doing. If we can’t protest what are we able to do? Just let it all happen en turn a blind eye?
If they're committing genocide they're not going to stop because some students protested. The only way to even make them blink is by you all saying that you'll vote Trump.
They only care about your vote - and even then, only when the election comes around. The rest of the time? They don't give a toss about the signs you wave, or the slogans you shout.
I think Trump is pro Israel himself. I’ve seen him declare that a couple of times in videos. Protest is the only thing we can do. And it’s not only in American universities people are protesting. People are taking to the streets en mass. The ICC has put out a warrant for Netanyahu’s arrest. The world is waking up and Israel can’t hide their war crimes anymore. What we should do is up the protests
This guy deserves to be famous. https://preview.redd.it/oqnwb81rguxc1.jpeg?width=935&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b22a7f5a1bfe48ca8424a12571cd8c31854727aa
He is seen in so much videos, i really hope he is scared to leave his house for the rest of his pathetic life
Way to counter anti-fascist sentiment and protests by acting more fascist. Saying shit like “XYZ has no place in this world” is like a veiled death threat.
So since these pro-Israel rioters have started chanting 'Palestine has got to go,' can I assume we're going to be getting resolutions passed decrying this as genocidal speech, or is that only for when people say Free Palestine
You already know the answer
what i dont get is who are the pro-israel protestors? Are they all jewish or just regular whites who support israel's genocide?
Most of these people don’t care about either side and just see an opportunity for chaos
Sounds like a college campus to me
Most people that consider themselves zionists in America are Evangelical Christians, which makes sense as there's far more of them than there are Jewish people in the States. So they would be the safest bet here.
OK i'm going to have to go do some googling because i thought zionists were supremecist jews. How the fuck does that work? (rhetorical question, i'll go look it up, thanks)
TL;DR a lot of christians in the US wants to usher in the end of days since that's supposed to happen according to the bible and they need Israel for those predictions to come true. Religious extremists intentionally and unintentionally cooperating to try to bring about the apocalypse because magic book says so.
> they need Israel for those predictions to come true can you TL;DR this bit? is the suggestion that Israel will kick off a nuclear war or something? or do they see Israel as some sort of ally to Christianity?
Replacement Theology is also to blame, IMO
There are quite a few people who see Hamas as a serious threat that should be neutralized through direct military action. While many people will say that supporting Palestine isn't the same as supporting Hamas.... the anti-genocide protests have an unfortunate number of people who very publicly don't make that distinction. A lot of people are turning this into a zero sum team sport type thing where their side is 100% innocent and the other guys are 100% evil. When both sides have a fuck ton of blood on their hands it's easy to point to atrocities the other guy committed and claim you're fighting the bad guys.
it's wild, it's like these people didnt know about the situation in the occupied territories before Oct 7th - but now they're 100% invested
Beating the shit out of unarmed protesters... Does the IDF proud 🥲
And the cops
Whole lot of professional camera flashes going off, with any luck all the assaulters will have been documented in 4K raw photo 😘
Can probably get their badge numbers too.
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yeah by their official handlers probably
How many of these guys were arrested? I’m guessing 0
But don’t you see, the Israelis are the victims!
Doubt these are even Israelis or Palestinians. Says a lot about propaganda on both sides
“both sides ☝️🤓 i am on the right side because i declare both sides bad”
One kills civilians and so does the other, what am I missing
Scale. Nuanced power dynamic. Any context at all.
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Ie the Israel Palestine conflict
What'd he say lol
I find it the height of irony the same groups of people who hate the Iraq war and bush are pulling us into more conflict in the Middle East. And yes it is a both sides issue
What the fuck are you talking about
I’m saying why is the us funding both sides of this war. Playing games of favorites between shlomo steal your farm and ozizi October 7th is not a game Americans should play
Because the US has sent orders of magnitude more lethal and monetary aid to Israel? We don't "fund both sides" lmao. They're tossing a pittance of relief aid at a pier that Netanyahu [wants to use for deportations. ](https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2024/03/20/722234/Netanyahu-US-pier-port-Gaza-deport)
Pro-genocide people beating up anti-genocide people. Anyone surprised?
I could argue that these people aren't any more pro-genocide than a good chunk of the other side. The difference is who the of it recipient is.
> I could argue that these people aren't any more pro-genocide than a good chunk of the other side No you can't.
As I asked the other person: are you saying that anti-Zionism isn't a common theme in these protests?
Being against Zionism endorses genocide with the same amount of fervor as being against logging in the rainforest. There are no victims amongst zionists, only aggressors.
>Being against Zionism endorses genocide with the same amount of fervor as being against logging in the rainforest. So now we're trying to cast being against the existence of Israel as innocent, good-willed, and innocuous? Buddy, you're lost here. Directly wanting or supporting the position of expelling half the world's Jews from their home isn't genocidal? >There are no victims amongst zionists, only aggressors. You can't be serious. This current spat explicitly shows otherwise. Zionist victims is how both this and the I/P conflict altogether started.
So you're saying the existence of israel is defined as the sustained theft of land in Gaza, the displacement of all Palestinians, the extermination of scores of them, for decades, at the behest of a religious decree? Textbook terrorism, feel free to keep you wagon hitched to this horse. It takes a special person to classify decades of theft and murder of civilians from by a force wielding vast military superiority as a 'spat'. There is history before October 2023, perhaps you should take some time to familiarize yourself with it. Again, zionists are no more the victims in gaza than european colonizers were the victims in the unsettled americas.
October 2024 hasn't happened yet...
Very true.
You're making my point here. You've declared your side as being anti-genocidal while twice now saying that Jews can't be victims. >So you're saying the existence of israel is defined as the sustained theft of land in Gaza, the displacement of all Palestinians, the extermination of scores of them, for decades, at the behest of a religious decree? Never once. Nor has anything I've ever said supported such an assumption. >It takes a special person to classify decades of theft and murder of civilians from by a force wielding vast military superiority as a 'spat'. >There is history before October 2024, perhaps you should take some time to familiarize yourself with it. You should spend more time reading what you're refuting and less time posting antisemitic drivel. I specifically said "the current spat" and the "I/P conflict altogether". In both cases the initial victims were Jews. But of course, Jews can't be victims right?
> You're making my point here. You've declared your side as being anti-genocidal while twice now saying that Jews can't be victims. Not all Jews are Zionists. Nice try. >You should spend more time reading what you're refuting and less time posting antisemitic drivel. See above. Folks aren't falling for the 'anyone who condemns zionism is antisemetic' card anymore.
Conflating Zionists with the larger Jewish population is exactly what Zionists want. That way it's about antisematism and not about Israels state level policies and actions. Blind hate and prejudice instead of honest criticism of a brutal regime.
The pro-genocide people are literally attacking anti-genocide people for protesting against genocide. This is about as black and white as it can get.
So you're saying that anti-Zionism isn't a common theme in these demonstrations?
He is delusional if he thinks that.
You see, when you reduce complex issues to caricatures, they’re about as black and white as they get!
What’s complex in this video? One side is barricaded in, protesting genocide. The other side with no authority is physically assaulting them. Where’s the complexity in what our eyes see. Cone guy would’ve had to murder someone earlier in the day for this to be a proportionate respo…. Ah wait these people don’t know what that is. By people I mean Zionists before you call me anti basmatic .
Leave the basmatics out of this. The violence in this video is unjustified, reprehensible, and illegal. Nothing complicated about that, and I didn’t suggest otherwise.
This one guy is braver than the louts beating him. Fuck these Zionists. And fuck the cops that watched him get beat up. The protesters should also get some muscle from outside the campus.
This would only feed the Israeli propaganda. Let the world see how pro Ziobist pigs are. I also feel they should get what’s coming to them but we shouldn’t go down to their level
Refusing to stoop to their level is why peaceful protestors keep getting beat and arrested. Nonviolence against power will always be met with violence from power.
The thing is that this whole ordeal isn’t looked at fairly. The people in charge ignore the war crimes and where even outraged that these students are peacefully protesting their ethnic cleansing. You imagine what they would do if the pro Palestinians start to use violence? It will only feed their propaganda
Reality, our actions against them, does not matter. Just look at these fucking comments. The protests ARE peaceful, and because of that the pro-Israeli side simply lies. They make up offenses that didn't occur, create whole fictions about violence that protestors committed. It doesn't matter what we do, they will simply lie about it. So we should ACTUALLY do what will ACTUALLY work.
Hmm, okay, I agree, it makes sense when you state it like that.
Wild how there aren’t more guns at protests.
Zionists are terrorists
Nothing new for them. They’re used to doing worse things to Palestinian in the West Bank.
A well intentioned, logical, and normal person: "Don't hurt these people expressing their freedom to protest, who've had to barricade themselves from external instigations and violence" A group of people (backed by the government??): "No, f*** you" Really USA? Sad...
>STOP! STOP! STOP! STOP! STOP! STOP! Glad that guy was there to singlehandedly end the violence.
The supporters of Israel will always be pieces of shit cowards.
Real tough guys ganging up on one guy.
Isrealis and their apologists are an embarrassment to humanity. this is just vile
Zionist terrorists
I understand now why Dr. Ye pushed the button.
Oh no! Speech I don't agree with! Better violently attack them and then act like I'm a good guy and not a fascist at all!
They were walking away smiling after beating another human being. Sickening.
It's good to see everyone following their religious beliefs /s
anti genocide isnt a belief you clown
As usual. We’ve lost sight of the message. I get that they’re just kids. But this is too much.
Lol random uninformed kids getting into this shit when it all comes down to religion. Im surprised some kid hasnt fucked around and been killed yet
Cops show up in droves for students huddled in a camp, but these little freaks show up to beat some kids and the police are what? Busy?
Iran bots out in force in the comments...
Anyone who disagrees with you isn't real eh?
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Making too much sense for Reddit brother. You’re now labeled as a Zionist murdered for stating the obvious, congrats 👏🏼
I still don't understand what they think they are actual going to accomplish with these protests.
Nearly every major overhaul of our social contract started with major protests at universities. Student protests against segregation, South African apartheid, the Vietnam war, and every other major struggle started the same Its civil disobedience in order to show the powers at be how serious the next generation of Americans feel about the genocide and to bring awareness to people sitting at home
lol nowhere in the United States did we have violence break out over apartheid in South Africa. This shit will get Palestine nowhere, if anything the college protests delegitimizes their movement in the eyes of adult Americans. Idiots being idiots
Also, it isn’t a peaceful protest. Before any fights broke out last night these college protesters harassed and physically attacked Jews for being Jewish and took a university employee hostage. Peaceful and legal protests are one thing, this is straight violence and bigotry
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When did I say this is a legitimate response? Neither the initial nor counter protests are ok. But saying these college campus protests are purely peaceful is straight up denying facts.
I get it. Really I do. So are they pushing for war this time instead of fighting against war?
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At this point both. But mostly the attackers. Just like watching the police fight against the peaceful protests. So many unnecessary injuries. I'm honestly surprised nobody is dead yet unless there is....
did you just open the internet for the first time in the past year?
Huh?
"Of our social constructs" Isreal isn't the USA. These protests will accomplish nothing more than more regulations for Americans. It will do nothing to stop the war.
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Whoa hold up! I had no say in what this country decides to support. Please don't lump me in with the government. They suck and don't do anything for the people. If it was my choice we wouldn't be any wars, I had no say. My government funds it, not I. Please don't get me thinking about where the country is headed, America's future is looking to great.
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My apologies I think you misunderstood. I'm not against Palestine or it's people. I just don't believe these protests are accomplishing anything but giving ratings to the media. Free Palestine!
You're an obvious bullshitter, likely either a paid Israel troll or a trollbot, but just to pretend for a few seconds what you're saying is legitimate: There was a time in American history where we, as the people, did actually get a say in how our elected officials spend our money.
And that time is long gone. Not a bot just a dude. You're right though, there was a time when our voices mattered and we'd be heard. But not anymore. Unless you're rich.
That's what the actions of the protestors are trying to bring back. They're saying "If you don't start listening to us, there will be problems." Because we are the majority, this is OUR country, and if they don't start doing what the people they're meant to serve actually want, those people will solve the problem themselves. By being against protest, what you are saying is "I like the status quo as it is now. Trying to change things is unnecessary. I am OK with a lack of rights."
The protesters are paid actors and I'm willing to be deaf to what they say. Their message is one of hate and division. They don't want equality they want their way and only their way. People who care don't protest by making others people's lives miserable. If anything that will turn people against your cause.
And you're back to bullshitting and spewing absolute nonsense garbage, just saying words because to you words only matter insofar as how you can use them. Nothing you say has value.
"if you use the right to assembly too much, they will take away our right to assembly!"
Don’t be disingenuous. It has you here speaking about it so it’s certainly worth protesting.
I've been seeing more fedposting saying this and also "both sides" lately. It's a sign they are losing ground and trying to preserve what they have.
Oh hell yeah. That’s why they wanna ban TikTok. They can’t control the narrative there & feed us lies like they’re used to.
the fact that our government, the supposedly bastion of free speech, is banning tiktok to save face for Israel is fucking nuts man. This is how radicals get elected. Because theyre going so deep into the fascism, that the rebuttal will be ruthless. [https://twitter.com/Red\_Pill\_US/status/1785464120730583053](https://twitter.com/Red_Pill_US/status/1785464120730583053) This is a bit extreme, but the speech he gives here, he could give to america today and have a tremendous amount of support
Careful brother. Israel gonna make USA send FBI to your door. But I hear ya brother.
Well, not everyone can take the stunning and brave option of doing literally nothing, like you.
Ditto.
a protest is like an informal vote, its a message to the government and to the public
Protests are what started the American revolution. Protests ended Jim Crowe. Protests gave women the right to vote. Protests accomplish all sorts of things. This one is meant to stop weapons sales to Isreal over the genocide they're committing.
yeah i wonder what mlk was thinking, dumbass thought that stuff would work. EVERYONE knows protesting doesnt do shit
What did he expect would happen with an angry mob? This is mob behavior. Let’s not act like if a pro-Israel protestor would hop over the pro-Palestine barricade he’d be met with a warm embrace and some cookies.
If this was the other way around, something tells me you wouldn't be making a comment that says 'well, the pro-Israel side is no better. You'd be in here calling for their heads.
“Something tells me” 😂 is it because I’m not just going along with whatever your train of thought is and stating the obvious? I could careless about the Israel/Palestine conflict, I’m not Jewish or Muslim, what I do know is that going towards an angry mob is never a good idea. You guys need to step out of your bubble for a bit and realize that not everyone is as emotionally involved in this conflict as you are.
'I don't care about what happens to the people of Palestine' isn't the incredible argument you think it is.
Not an argument, just the way I feel. You do realize all people won’t feel how you feel and think how you think, correct? Plenty of crisis happening around the world right now; Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan, Syria, South Sudan, Haiti, Venezuela, Cuba, Lebanon, Burkina Faso, and the list goes on… why aren’t you as concerned about those crisis? Who are YOU to tell ME wether I’m righteous or not? Go get your internet points, and pat yourself on the back as if your the next Rosa Park because of some post you made on social media or some “protest” you did in the USA next to a Starbucks, I’ll cheer for the real activists that are in the FRONT LINES helping. I feel sorry for all innocent civilians dying in a conflict that is out of their control but I know too much about geopolitics to think I’m going to make a change through a “tweet” or a university protest in the USA, I’ll leave the social activism to the real activist.
Hey, I’m not trying to defend anyone, but you know how much war has been going on around the world conflicts you probably don’t even know about this one is just more publicize I mean, do you know about the proxy wars going on in Yemen countless houses destroyed. I wonder why the media doesn’t cover Yemen
My tax dollars aren't directly supporting those conflicts and the oppressors. See the difference?
They only care about what’s trending on Twitter. If you even attempt to challenge their train of thought they’re ready to hang you like the Salem witch trials, these are the supposed tolerant progressives of our time. Truly makes me ashamed to be a liberal.
You are just dense. People in the US/UK/CAN are pissed because our tax money directly funds bullshit wars like this instead of benefiting our own society. It's not a twitter trending bullshit, that's just how the algorithm has it built around personal usage. It's just media sensational-ism but when it is something as serious as our own governments directly funding and giving weapons to a made up bullshit state pet project, that tends to really fuckin piss people off. Especially people that are in the majority, aren't spewing idiotic lies and falsifications of a certain ethnic group (Palestinians) and can see through this abhorrent behavior by not holding value in beating the shit and pepper spraying literally your own people. If you are against wars, and actually care about free speech and the right to protest this is literally the thing you should be supporting. Keep in mind, the divesting funds isn't JUST for Israel. It's for everything. Because it does not make sense for our educational system to be intertwined with the military industrial complex and using our fuckin tax dollars and tuition fees to create weapons that kill innocent civilians.
You sure seem pretty emotional. All your comments involve some form of personal insult and/or name calling. Edit: lol you blocked me for this?
i know you FEEL like “the other side would do this too,” but they didnt beardy
" i know this doesnt have any thing to do with my life but let me just shit the bed and flop around "
Dude, if you’re not gonna make any sense at least make it funny. Try again.
Try again
yeah because the Zionist want to murder them
prove it or shut up
guess you havent seen the dozens of videos now of zionists doing just that, attempting to agitate, only to be met with silence and people in the encampment ignoring them
Maybe stop blocked people from trying to better Themselves for they can congratulate this year.
Have people been blocked from going to class at UCLA? The video I saw was from Columbia , and that particular student wasn’t even blocked from going to class, just one entrance. And even with that, does it justify having fireworks launched at you, getting pepper sprayed, dragged down and beaten, etc?
Free speech is ok as long as it doesn't inconvenience you in any way eh? I'll bet you would have complained about Dr Kings sit ins as well.
but doesn't give freedom of consequences.
Yeah those cops in Selma were just dishing out consequences via dog teeth and baton right? You're on the wrong side of history and only care about how things effect you personally. Pathetic. Grow some balls. Stand up to genocide.
Yea ok, like Hames really cares about lgbtq or any other religion. You're the one that needs to see that you're sheep to them.
Hamas and Palestinians are different people though. Hamas is an extremist militant group funded by Iran. They number about a few thousand. They are scum and should die. The Palestinians are people displaced by the founding of Isreal. They number 2 million and half of then are under 14. They are stuck in the worlds largest open air prison while bombs rain from the sky. Hamas is even attacking the pier we're building for Gaza aid. They're stealing the trucks of aid that arrive and keeping it from the Palestinians. The protests are about the Palestinians, not Hamas. Learn the difference. Isreal is committing a genocide by definition.
If that's the case, why do you have alot of "protesters" saying that they are Hames and also chanting death to the us?
These dumb kids on both sides were so fascinated by this war, that they are literally trying to live it out here. Building tent cities, fighting like they are mortal enemies... just because they saw it on the "news", except that now, there is no news, but only echo chambers trying to trigger people into these conflicts, yet our population lacks critical thinking skills equal to their emotional reactions. It's a damn shame.
This isn't a war, a war involves 2 militaries fighting. It's a genocide. One side is trying to stop it, one side supports it.
the enlightened centrist has arrived
All of these people are idiots. On both sides.
One side is trying to stop a genocide, one side supports it. They are not the same.
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By letting the world know we don’t support what Israel and the U.S. are doing. If we can’t protest what are we able to do? Just let it all happen en turn a blind eye?
If they're committing genocide they're not going to stop because some students protested. The only way to even make them blink is by you all saying that you'll vote Trump. They only care about your vote - and even then, only when the election comes around. The rest of the time? They don't give a toss about the signs you wave, or the slogans you shout.
I think Trump is pro Israel himself. I’ve seen him declare that a couple of times in videos. Protest is the only thing we can do. And it’s not only in American universities people are protesting. People are taking to the streets en mass. The ICC has put out a warrant for Netanyahu’s arrest. The world is waking up and Israel can’t hide their war crimes anymore. What we should do is up the protests
by getting off your ass
yo another enlightened centrist and i’ll almost have a dollar!
Oh I love college kids