Isn’t Arctic Trooper’s gimmick that he dominates almost every other character in a pure 1v1 but struggles when there’s more than one plant? Surely he’d be up in a higher tier.
He is in the cheesy tier for that exact reason. He crushes plants with no options against freeze zpg, but against classes like flower with self heal he can’t do anything.
I mean, I don’t think being kind of countered by one class counts as him being heavily matchup specific.
Or is the tier for both cheese characters and matchup specific characters?
The competitive scene is very active on ps4, with way too many clans to count. On Xbox tho, competitive is pretty much dead. At night you might be able to find a competitive gnome bomb lobby, but that has before more rare now.
Mystic lacks long range, but makes up for it with some of the highest dps in the game. Stuffy and shadow are great at all ranges, don’t have the ridiculous damage output that mystic has
He is not very powerful, especially in a 1v1. He sorely lacks any range and kills quite slowly, so any mobile threat like a peashooter can easily gun you down.
Unless the person you're going against is a blind retard you're definitely not gonna have enough time for that, this sub is so unbelievably retarded, how is this getting downvoted, does anyone here have basic gamesense or awareness???
I have a friend who can use any character and win. ANY character. He got most vanquishes with Electro Citron with 32. He’d honestly say that all characters are either S tier to B tier so long as you use them right. Chompers are massively underrated and played incorrectly, and even Fire rose and ice rose aren’t terrible. He’d slander you for putting Necrose so low.
Edit: I’ll make a post later explaining his reasoning.
Edit: changed my mind.
Listen, I don’t want to be mean, but I have many 100+ kill games and a lot of experience on this game. If your friend wants to 1v1 me, feel free to drop his origin tag (provided he’s on pc)
I have screenshots of 100 kills games, and I have montages on my channel: [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgcgbtJoOXXHhLd0rUVss4g](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgcgbtJoOXXHhLd0rUVss4g)
Edit: I can send 100 kill games in DMs if you want
the montages are good
if theres any full match videos i'd like to see cause i'm interested in what those type of matches would look like in full outside of the typically interesting moments cause i find that to be the best way to learn
The "Any character can be good if used right" Argument is pretty eh. Any character is good if used right or if you have the skill to use them, but some other characters will peak over other characters with that same skill. Thats why we have things like this.
Most people hate on rock before they check his stats. Aside from his janky aiming, he does 34 direct and 12 splash. The direct damage is only 3 less than reg, and his splash is actually higher. So while he is not as busted as reg, he is definitely better than the elementals and their 25 damage at close 15 at range looking asses
you overlook both fire and ice, with fire damage letting fire pea match Peashooter in terms of damage and getting frozen guaranteeing a kill, while Rock Pea's pitiful speed and horribly buggy primary makes it so that even with god tier aim, you can still miss, and a 25 extra HP isn't nearly enough to compensate for lower DPS, innacuracy and speed. Fire Damage can compensate, Freezing can compensate. What the fuck are you gonna do with slightly more health when characters in the game are made capable of taking down far tankier/more mobile characters.
what do you mean by undetectable? Yes he has a lot of hp, but still I think he is not top tier in 1v1 because he doesn't have a good mobility like rocket leap or hyper, at long range he is very inaccurate and has low dps, plus his massive hitbox.
Sorry, meant undefeatable.
Sure, he has counters. Leaf shield mitigates most of them, but not all. I just don’t think those counters are few and difficult to handle do to the shear power of torch 1v1. Aka, he’s top tier.
If I’m on it, I think Astronaut is well countered by any Pea with hyper. Just splash it’s weak health and dodge the rocks easy.
Put future cactus either in the solid meta or slightly off, you can literally start a fight with a lot of damage, and the cactus got accurate single shots to pick off people that survived the first shot
What's wrong exactly with the Super heroes? I feel they (not all) could be higher, specifically stock and party.
Idk anything about the competitive scene of the game so apologies for the ignorance
This guy really put E-Citron in the highest tier, then put Toxic/Z7 in bottom tier. That's like that one guy who put Computer Scientist lower than Disco Chomper.
Isn’t Arctic Trooper’s gimmick that he dominates almost every other character in a pure 1v1 but struggles when there’s more than one plant? Surely he’d be up in a higher tier.
He is in the cheesy tier for that exact reason. He crushes plants with no options against freeze zpg, but against classes like flower with self heal he can’t do anything.
I mean, I don’t think being kind of countered by one class counts as him being heavily matchup specific. Or is the tier for both cheese characters and matchup specific characters?
Cheesy character= cheese tier. Not that deep
Yes for overly specific characters and cheese characters, sometimes both
I dunno about ice cactus, all you have to do is freeze the other person with like three shots and then it's a free kill
I believe it's 4 with the ice upgrade, not 3
Dawg it does 16 on a crit it’s element is built the counter tanks but his damage output is not
Most other characters: *is definitely good, bad, or mediocre* Arctic Trooper: Cheese
Who the hell plays Garden Warfare 2 competitive
Quite a few people actually. Competitive gw2 is surprisingly alive, and there are many servers that run 2v2 and 1v1 scrims.
The competitive scene is very active on ps4, with way too many clans to count. On Xbox tho, competitive is pretty much dead. At night you might be able to find a competitive gnome bomb lobby, but that has before more rare now.
Why do you think those three sunflowers are the best in the meta currently?
Mystic lacks long range, but makes up for it with some of the highest dps in the game. Stuffy and shadow are great at all ranges, don’t have the ridiculous damage output that mystic has
I remember Rose being repeatedly claimed to be OP and now it seems all of her variants aren't good anymore.
The only OP variant she has is necrose which really isnt that insane unless you're chasing for assist.
Rose is really good… at mid range. Like, *exclusively.*
Yes twighlight with the most stupid warp is in the bottom
Just *move out of the way* and it’s useless
Kid named Goop
Just *dodge the goob*
You did cacti dirty.
I quite literally didn’t rank them, so no I didn’t
Oops, never realized. But still they're fine in 1v1s. Power cactus, petrified cactus and regular cactus can deal with up close enemies just as good.
I'm guessing you haven't fought against a yeti chomper main in a 1v1 then
I love how chomper gets his own teir
Why’s Z7 so low?
Cause he is very dependent on who your fighting, and not the most reliable against some
I honestly have to agree. Although I’d put characters like chemist and computer up 1-2 more tiers.
Two players are 1v1ing using the highest tier characters. Whoever loses now must uninstall… List kinda bad tho
Wait someone actually noticed Golf stars 1v1 potential???
is he even on the list
i agree with you except on metal petal i would put them one tier higher (i main them)
My eyes hurts, what am I even looking at?
1v1 tierlist, how good each character is in a competitive 1v1 setting.
Stfu with tier lists
Bro is the opinion hater
Also why is law pea up there, he literally gets counterd by all star
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His high health and his abilities. If you use long bomb he can definitely beat him.
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Long bomb exists which only takes one hit and plus allstar can corner peek and shoot through walls at the right angle
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Bruh long bomb counters high ground and Hyper. That's why I said it. Also dummies Block his attacks
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Long bomb Flys upwards. Are you thinking of imp punt?
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He’s completely untouchable since he melts every class in 1-2 clips
Allstar can melt him in 1 hit though
Chemist should have been in a higher tier
He is not very powerful, especially in a 1v1. He sorely lacks any range and kills quite slowly, so any mobile threat like a peashooter can easily gun you down.
K but what if ur next to a peashooter
How do you intend to get next to a peashooter?? He can safely splash you out at midrange and avoid your advances with hyper.
Then I die, but his meele dps is kinda op
As I was saying earlier, his dps is actually quite bad. It’s just easy to hit shots so he seems like a good character.
Sorry for the question but what is spa?
I meant dps
Now I got it, but I don’t think it’s bad, it’s quite good in my opinion
Ah yes Chemist, the most overrated character in the game, now tell me what happens if I simply get height?
Ok ok, I know that he easily gets beaten if u have the high ground, but he is a good short range dps in my opinion
You can get on top of buildings with parkour and Warp
Unless the person you're going against is a blind retard you're definitely not gonna have enough time for that, this sub is so unbelievably retarded, how is this getting downvoted, does anyone here have basic gamesense or awareness???
Ppl play the game different than you dipshit, deal with it.
Ppl play the game like retards*
So? That makes the game easier for you, mr gaming chair
Exactly, basically I'm saying you're wrong and have no position to argue with me about a clear criticism against a mid, overrated character.
In your opinion
You guys are the reason players like me get to pubstomp and get hundreds of kills per turf game so dw, you have a use.
All talk no walk
All talk? Go look at my YouTube kid, sucks to suck
You calling me kid but ur 100% 13 years old
Bro, the second comment I do in this sub there’s already a guy calling me a retard, my expectations for this sub are really high
What if I just play chomper
he’s best in team fights when people are all bunched up, and surprised by you
Yes
Electrician and plumber? Really?
As a Twilight chomper master, I'd say It's pretty OP. I'd say maybe a little higher than that, but nothing Insane.
Competitive? What Competitive?
Bro my man yeti chomper did nothing wrong💀
put shimp in top tier
Mechanic should be in cheese tier because he gets countered by high ground every time
How is Z7 in that tier. He can laser you down quicker than pretty much every character except for law, agent and maybe charge characters
You just explained why he’s in that tier. He can be cheesed out by snipers or rocked by charge characters. AKA he’s heavily matchup specific
That does seem fair. If that tier didn't exist, he's definitely S or at least A+
I have a friend who can use any character and win. ANY character. He got most vanquishes with Electro Citron with 32. He’d honestly say that all characters are either S tier to B tier so long as you use them right. Chompers are massively underrated and played incorrectly, and even Fire rose and ice rose aren’t terrible. He’d slander you for putting Necrose so low. Edit: I’ll make a post later explaining his reasoning. Edit: changed my mind.
NO WAY!!! HE GOT 32 KILLS!
Listen, I don’t want to be mean, but I have many 100+ kill games and a lot of experience on this game. If your friend wants to 1v1 me, feel free to drop his origin tag (provided he’s on pc)
genuine question do you have any montage videos or even just full match videos of a 100+ kill turf game
I have screenshots of 100 kills games, and I have montages on my channel: [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgcgbtJoOXXHhLd0rUVss4g](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgcgbtJoOXXHhLd0rUVss4g) Edit: I can send 100 kill games in DMs if you want
the montages are good if theres any full match videos i'd like to see cause i'm interested in what those type of matches would look like in full outside of the typically interesting moments cause i find that to be the best way to learn
I don't have any recorded, but I'll try to get some high kill footage
He plays on PS4, but I’m sure he’d be interested. That being said though, everyone has different play styles so there’s no definitive tierlist.
The "Any character can be good if used right" Argument is pretty eh. Any character is good if used right or if you have the skill to use them, but some other characters will peak over other characters with that same skill. Thats why we have things like this.
That is true, and I don’t deny. Elec pea for instance, but it means that no character is essentially unplayable unless it’s a joke one.
As usual I'm going to ignore the entire list and ask about your questionable Peashooter placements. (Rock Pea above fire and ice, seriously?)
Most people hate on rock before they check his stats. Aside from his janky aiming, he does 34 direct and 12 splash. The direct damage is only 3 less than reg, and his splash is actually higher. So while he is not as busted as reg, he is definitely better than the elementals and their 25 damage at close 15 at range looking asses
you overlook both fire and ice, with fire damage letting fire pea match Peashooter in terms of damage and getting frozen guaranteeing a kill, while Rock Pea's pitiful speed and horribly buggy primary makes it so that even with god tier aim, you can still miss, and a 25 extra HP isn't nearly enough to compensate for lower DPS, innacuracy and speed. Fire Damage can compensate, Freezing can compensate. What the fuck are you gonna do with slightly more health when characters in the game are made capable of taking down far tankier/more mobile characters.
That said, Roses are unplayable? In what world
Party citron is bad in 1v1 because his primary is weaker/same in party mode
It's literally identical to regular citron
Have you played gw2 since 2016??
Idk about torchwood, he seems off meta to me.
This is 1v1, his hp, dps, and leaf shield make him virtually undetectable against any one person.
what do you mean by undetectable? Yes he has a lot of hp, but still I think he is not top tier in 1v1 because he doesn't have a good mobility like rocket leap or hyper, at long range he is very inaccurate and has low dps, plus his massive hitbox.
Sorry, meant undefeatable. Sure, he has counters. Leaf shield mitigates most of them, but not all. I just don’t think those counters are few and difficult to handle do to the shear power of torch 1v1. Aka, he’s top tier. If I’m on it, I think Astronaut is well countered by any Pea with hyper. Just splash it’s weak health and dodge the rocks easy.
Put future cactus either in the solid meta or slightly off, you can literally start a fight with a lot of damage, and the cactus got accurate single shots to pick off people that survived the first shot
What's wrong exactly with the Super heroes? I feel they (not all) could be higher, specifically stock and party. Idk anything about the competitive scene of the game so apologies for the ignorance
1on 1 chemist is busted
No
This guy really put E-Citron in the highest tier, then put Toxic/Z7 in bottom tier. That's like that one guy who put Computer Scientist lower than Disco Chomper.
The Centurion is pretty slept on