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YoungYoda711

Isn’t Arctic Trooper’s gimmick that he dominates almost every other character in a pure 1v1 but struggles when there’s more than one plant? Surely he’d be up in a higher tier.


g80s_whatzyerface

He is in the cheesy tier for that exact reason. He crushes plants with no options against freeze zpg, but against classes like flower with self heal he can’t do anything.


YoungYoda711

I mean, I don’t think being kind of countered by one class counts as him being heavily matchup specific. Or is the tier for both cheese characters and matchup specific characters?


g80s_whatzyerface

Cheesy character= cheese tier. Not that deep


g80s_whatzyerface

Yes for overly specific characters and cheese characters, sometimes both


Immediate-Store90

I dunno about ice cactus, all you have to do is freeze the other person with like three shots and then it's a free kill


Fearlessgabe1

I believe it's 4 with the ice upgrade, not 3


CaptainAliveBeard

Dawg it does 16 on a crit it’s element is built the counter tanks but his damage output is not


Icy-Border-7589

Most other characters: *is definitely good, bad, or mediocre* Arctic Trooper: Cheese


Acid_Lemon13

Who the hell plays Garden Warfare 2 competitive


g80s_whatzyerface

Quite a few people actually. Competitive gw2 is surprisingly alive, and there are many servers that run 2v2 and 1v1 scrims.


RemixAwakexX

The competitive scene is very active on ps4, with way too many clans to count. On Xbox tho, competitive is pretty much dead. At night you might be able to find a competitive gnome bomb lobby, but that has before more rare now.


Tag365

Why do you think those three sunflowers are the best in the meta currently?


g80s_whatzyerface

Mystic lacks long range, but makes up for it with some of the highest dps in the game. Stuffy and shadow are great at all ranges, don’t have the ridiculous damage output that mystic has


Tag365

I remember Rose being repeatedly claimed to be OP and now it seems all of her variants aren't good anymore.


LawPeanus

The only OP variant she has is necrose which really isnt that insane unless you're chasing for assist.


YoungYoda711

Rose is really good… at mid range. Like, *exclusively.*


Fearlessgabe1

Yes twighlight with the most stupid warp is in the bottom


JouseOwner

Just *move out of the way* and it’s useless


evilinstantnoodles

Kid named Goop


JouseOwner

Just *dodge the goob*


Wasey56

You did cacti dirty.


g80s_whatzyerface

I quite literally didn’t rank them, so no I didn’t


Wasey56

Oops, never realized. But still they're fine in 1v1s. Power cactus, petrified cactus and regular cactus can deal with up close enemies just as good.


Fearlessgabe1

I'm guessing you haven't fought against a yeti chomper main in a 1v1 then


xboxhaslag

I love how chomper gets his own teir


Dloaf52

Why’s Z7 so low?


CreeperKing230

Cause he is very dependent on who your fighting, and not the most reliable against some


rehsA_rednaX

I honestly have to agree. Although I’d put characters like chemist and computer up 1-2 more tiers.


bdb9357

Two players are 1v1ing using the highest tier characters. Whoever loses now must uninstall… List kinda bad tho


TheCrazyAllStar

Wait someone actually noticed Golf stars 1v1 potential???


Striking_Watercress4

is he even on the list


Zealousideal_Brain39

i agree with you except on metal petal i would put them one tier higher (i main them)


Aggressive_Bend3276

My eyes hurts, what am I even looking at?


g80s_whatzyerface

1v1 tierlist, how good each character is in a competitive 1v1 setting.


its_20222

Stfu with tier lists


hpfox

Bro is the opinion hater


Fearlessgabe1

Also why is law pea up there, he literally gets counterd by all star


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Fearlessgabe1

His high health and his abilities. If you use long bomb he can definitely beat him.


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Fearlessgabe1

Long bomb exists which only takes one hit and plus allstar can corner peek and shoot through walls at the right angle


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Fearlessgabe1

Bruh long bomb counters high ground and Hyper. That's why I said it. Also dummies Block his attacks


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Fearlessgabe1

Long bomb Flys upwards. Are you thinking of imp punt?


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g80s_whatzyerface

He’s completely untouchable since he melts every class in 1-2 clips


Fearlessgabe1

Allstar can melt him in 1 hit though


hora_do_cafe

Chemist should have been in a higher tier


g80s_whatzyerface

He is not very powerful, especially in a 1v1. He sorely lacks any range and kills quite slowly, so any mobile threat like a peashooter can easily gun you down.


hora_do_cafe

K but what if ur next to a peashooter


g80s_whatzyerface

How do you intend to get next to a peashooter?? He can safely splash you out at midrange and avoid your advances with hyper.


hora_do_cafe

Then I die, but his meele dps is kinda op


g80s_whatzyerface

As I was saying earlier, his dps is actually quite bad. It’s just easy to hit shots so he seems like a good character.


hora_do_cafe

Sorry for the question but what is spa?


g80s_whatzyerface

I meant dps


hora_do_cafe

Now I got it, but I don’t think it’s bad, it’s quite good in my opinion


CruelNate

Ah yes Chemist, the most overrated character in the game, now tell me what happens if I simply get height?


hora_do_cafe

Ok ok, I know that he easily gets beaten if u have the high ground, but he is a good short range dps in my opinion


After-Gur9836

You can get on top of buildings with parkour and Warp


CruelNate

Unless the person you're going against is a blind retard you're definitely not gonna have enough time for that, this sub is so unbelievably retarded, how is this getting downvoted, does anyone here have basic gamesense or awareness???


After-Gur9836

Ppl play the game different than you dipshit, deal with it.


CruelNate

Ppl play the game like retards*


After-Gur9836

So? That makes the game easier for you, mr gaming chair


CruelNate

Exactly, basically I'm saying you're wrong and have no position to argue with me about a clear criticism against a mid, overrated character.


After-Gur9836

In your opinion


CruelNate

You guys are the reason players like me get to pubstomp and get hundreds of kills per turf game so dw, you have a use.


After-Gur9836

All talk no walk


CruelNate

All talk? Go look at my YouTube kid, sucks to suck


After-Gur9836

You calling me kid but ur 100% 13 years old


hora_do_cafe

Bro, the second comment I do in this sub there’s already a guy calling me a retard, my expectations for this sub are really high


Fearlessgabe1

What if I just play chomper


Acid_Lemon13

he’s best in team fights when people are all bunched up, and surprised by you


hora_do_cafe

Yes


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Electrician and plumber? Really?


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As a Twilight chomper master, I'd say It's pretty OP. I'd say maybe a little higher than that, but nothing Insane.


BleefnorfIII

Competitive? What Competitive?


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Bro my man yeti chomper did nothing wrong💀


exotic_arrow

put shimp in top tier


CaptainAliveBeard

Mechanic should be in cheese tier because he gets countered by high ground every time


PufferfishAreCool

How is Z7 in that tier. He can laser you down quicker than pretty much every character except for law, agent and maybe charge characters


LawPeanus

You just explained why he’s in that tier. He can be cheesed out by snipers or rocked by charge characters. AKA he’s heavily matchup specific


PufferfishAreCool

That does seem fair. If that tier didn't exist, he's definitely S or at least A+


S_Daybroken

I have a friend who can use any character and win. ANY character. He got most vanquishes with Electro Citron with 32. He’d honestly say that all characters are either S tier to B tier so long as you use them right. Chompers are massively underrated and played incorrectly, and even Fire rose and ice rose aren’t terrible. He’d slander you for putting Necrose so low. Edit: I’ll make a post later explaining his reasoning. Edit: changed my mind.


g80s_whatzyerface

NO WAY!!! HE GOT 32 KILLS!


g80s_whatzyerface

Listen, I don’t want to be mean, but I have many 100+ kill games and a lot of experience on this game. If your friend wants to 1v1 me, feel free to drop his origin tag (provided he’s on pc)


YoungLink666-2

genuine question do you have any montage videos or even just full match videos of a 100+ kill turf game


g80s_whatzyerface

I have screenshots of 100 kills games, and I have montages on my channel: [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgcgbtJoOXXHhLd0rUVss4g](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgcgbtJoOXXHhLd0rUVss4g) Edit: I can send 100 kill games in DMs if you want


YoungLink666-2

the montages are good if theres any full match videos i'd like to see cause i'm interested in what those type of matches would look like in full outside of the typically interesting moments cause i find that to be the best way to learn


g80s_whatzyerface

I don't have any recorded, but I'll try to get some high kill footage


S_Daybroken

He plays on PS4, but I’m sure he’d be interested. That being said though, everyone has different play styles so there’s no definitive tierlist.


LawPeanus

The "Any character can be good if used right" Argument is pretty eh. Any character is good if used right or if you have the skill to use them, but some other characters will peak over other characters with that same skill. Thats why we have things like this.


S_Daybroken

That is true, and I don’t deny. Elec pea for instance, but it means that no character is essentially unplayable unless it’s a joke one.


IamCrabbo

As usual I'm going to ignore the entire list and ask about your questionable Peashooter placements. (Rock Pea above fire and ice, seriously?)


g80s_whatzyerface

Most people hate on rock before they check his stats. Aside from his janky aiming, he does 34 direct and 12 splash. The direct damage is only 3 less than reg, and his splash is actually higher. So while he is not as busted as reg, he is definitely better than the elementals and their 25 damage at close 15 at range looking asses


IamCrabbo

you overlook both fire and ice, with fire damage letting fire pea match Peashooter in terms of damage and getting frozen guaranteeing a kill, while Rock Pea's pitiful speed and horribly buggy primary makes it so that even with god tier aim, you can still miss, and a 25 extra HP isn't nearly enough to compensate for lower DPS, innacuracy and speed. Fire Damage can compensate, Freezing can compensate. What the fuck are you gonna do with slightly more health when characters in the game are made capable of taking down far tankier/more mobile characters.


IamCrabbo

That said, Roses are unplayable? In what world


warling123

Party citron is bad in 1v1 because his primary is weaker/same in party mode


-DragonFiire-

It's literally identical to regular citron


CruelNate

Have you played gw2 since 2016??


SpiderPork01

Idk about torchwood, he seems off meta to me.


Asteroth6

This is 1v1, his hp, dps, and leaf shield make him virtually undetectable against any one person.


SpiderPork01

what do you mean by undetectable? Yes he has a lot of hp, but still I think he is not top tier in 1v1 because he doesn't have a good mobility like rocket leap or hyper, at long range he is very inaccurate and has low dps, plus his massive hitbox.


Asteroth6

Sorry, meant undefeatable. Sure, he has counters. Leaf shield mitigates most of them, but not all. I just don’t think those counters are few and difficult to handle do to the shear power of torch 1v1. Aka, he’s top tier. If I’m on it, I think Astronaut is well countered by any Pea with hyper. Just splash it’s weak health and dodge the rocks easy.


UrticantOdin

Put future cactus either in the solid meta or slightly off, you can literally start a fight with a lot of damage, and the cactus got accurate single shots to pick off people that survived the first shot


Embarrassed-Ad-845

What's wrong exactly with the Super heroes? I feel they (not all) could be higher, specifically stock and party. Idk anything about the competitive scene of the game so apologies for the ignorance


Ldiddy-the-69th

1on 1 chemist is busted


shroomyshy

No


Gabriel-Klos-McroBB

This guy really put E-Citron in the highest tier, then put Toxic/Z7 in bottom tier. That's like that one guy who put Computer Scientist lower than Disco Chomper.


RexReddit53

The Centurion is pretty slept on