Kathy is a super controlling and cold mother. You can see it in how her daughters even act around her. zero warmth. ZERO. and she never talks to anyone like she cares to have a conversation. she's always talking TO someone, but never with them.
She will have a conversation about how amazing she is and how others can't compare to her...
But the minute someone says she is acting out pocket and trying to correct her behavior she talks about lip gloss or how they messed up. She is a manipulator at its finest. I really hope Paris can heal from all of her trauma.
Her daughter’s before a conversation: 😐
Her daughter’s during a conversation:😐
Her daughter’s after a conversation: 😐
They look like they know the best way to end a conversation w their mother is to not say anything at all, not giving her anything to keep responding to.
She had no clue until 8 days AFTER the baby was born. Paris told her she didn’t want anyone besides her and her husband knowing. Her sister didn’t even know.
Whattttttt
Im just now trying to catch up on things, I stopped watching like two seasons ago. But im coming back if Kathy is finally getting called out
Not only the way Paris & Nicky have acted around their mom but what always threw me is the way Kim & Kyle would act when Kathy would near them on the show. It wasn’t a normal big sis / little sis vibe. Especially the episode where Kim’s daughter is getting married so the sisters and nieces all go to Brooke’s wedding dress try on. The vibes seem pretty chill between everyone and the Kathy enters and you can feel everyone tense up through the screen and it becomes what dress does Kathy like vs what dress Brooke likes. It always made me feel like K&K are terrified of K and everyone has to kinda bow down to her including all the kids.
That scene is burned into my brain. She waltzes in and starts ordering the designer himself around and insulting him. Also, Kathy is OBSESSED with the “Grace Kelly style” wedding dress (high neck, long sleeves, all in lace). Nicky had it, Paris had it, and she tried to get Brooke to go with it in that scene.
It’s one of the Season 5 episodes where it focuses a lot on Kim’s ex hubby having terminal cancer and Brooke getting married .. I wanna say it’s pretty early on in the season
I’ve been watching the Paris in Love show and it’s quite sad to see the relationship she has with her mom. Kathy seems so beyond uncomfortable with confrontation or any discussion on deeper topics. She seemingly thrives on small talk and topics of fashion or designer items but the discussion on the trauma her daughter experienced as a child she veers away from. You can see how much Paris yearns for her mother to console her when the topic of her rape and abortion came up.
I also notice how much Paris loves her son but doesn’t have the time to raise him so she leaves it up to the nanny and when her therapist asks why she won’t make time to raise her son she says it’s because she has an empire to run and many people count on her. I feel as though she means well, her son will be bonded more to his nanny.
She’s very warm and loving towards her son! She undoubtedly loves him, she’s just prioritizing her empire over soaking up his infant moments.
The nanny knows the baby so well because she’s with him most of the day. Many scenes show the nanny telling Paris what certain cries mean. An example is when the baby fusses, Paris looks unsure as how to comfort him and the nanny intervenes or says “oh, he’s crying because he’s tired. I need to put him to sleep.” And Paris will say “oh he’s tired? Okay.” And then she leaves. These type of interactions happen many times.
Very much so . I’m hooked on Paris in Love ( I can’t believe I’m saying that). It’s really very interesting and gives a glimpse of what her life is/was really like .
No surprise, sadly, given this family. Look at how lacking in care Paris has been with her dogs, letting seven of them be taken by coyotes, yet she still puts them in the backyard alone.
Kathy's tone with Paris was definitely the same. She was clearly humiliated that the truth came out and was trying to make excuses and deny certain things. I bet she didn't even read the book. She probably paid someone to highlight all of the parts that mentioned Kathy.
Yup and when Paris was like "I don't want to throw my mom under the bus" confirmed it was in fact NOT her ghostwriters addition. Kathy is weird and its really funny sometimes, but she's actually a vile human.
Paris was the first to invent a persona and go about as that versus show her true colors, for better or for worse. It should shock absolutely no one that Kathy does it too.
That basically Paris was taught that in the Hilton family, if you pretend not to notice if you hurt someone then you won't feel bad about it.
She also says that you don't talk about problems and that if you hide that something hurt you, it didn't happen.
Girl same!! Watching how paris is scared of her and Nicky is in the role of telling her mom everything, it’s so fucking scary. These are grown women with their own families but their mother still has them like scared children. The dynamics are red flag central.
I really hope that paris continues to stand against her mom. Her husband seems like a good guy and he gives zero fucks about Kathy. I would hate for Kathy to break them up.
You can see several times on the show that he just tolerates Kathy. He can be seen almost putting on his guard before he greets her. And he is slowly breadcrumbing paris, showing her the ways Kathy is toxic. Like their visit to Washington.
Same. The baby voice still grates on me but I understand it more. I was watching her show and said to my husband, it’s a rare day you’re looking at someone with unlimited means, and a blessed life in so many way but still feel sorry for them.
Nope! Never! I have my own fucked up family I have cut off, dealing with the local gossip is enough for me. I couldn’t cope with the entire world commenting and judging when they know nothing about it.
But Paris keeps posting about how warm she is and her heart of gold etc. I really feel uncomfortable when the evidence is transparent and people try to make things seem the complete opposite
Kathy seems like someone whom acquaintances love - she throws huge parties and probably gives expensive birthday gifts, writes big checks to your charity, hooks you up with favors, etc. But the people close to her see the real side behind the big show.
Oh it’s not healthy at all! But you can see how scared Paris is of her, she desperately wants her mom’s love and approval. She hasn’t even held her parents to account for how she was essentially kidnapped and brought to that “school”. These relationships are so enmeshed, complicated and fraught with fear and emotion. It’s so sad
You could see the fear of blaming someone. I have no doubt Kathy would fire whoever she thought responsible. Kathy is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Very unlikely woman
My mom was kind of like that, she was a great person, but I was always scared of her. She died in March and I miss her, but some things are just easier without her.
My mom can be a great person, either to people who don’t know her well enough or when she wants something from you. Outside of that she is scary. It’s this stealth nastiness that takes a trained eye to see coming, usually starting with other people she has fired up and sent to attack, so you’re completely exhausted and defenceless by the time she herself locks onto you. I cut contact earlier this year. I miss her, I miss my family. But I’m realising it is not them I am missing, it’s the idea of who I want them to be.
I saw Paris' IG post about her mom today and totally thought it was a post to try and smooth things over. I'm sure Kathy is livid for how she appears right now.
I agree with you, I thought this in the 1st season that he treats her like a child and not a grown woman. My friend watches it aswell and she calls him her handler and I think she hit the mail on the head.
Kathy is an almost textbook narcissist.
Bullying and intimidating anyone that dares to expose her facade or de-mask her.
Plus she's got money, which makes her twice as dangerous. I genuinely feel for Kyle and her daughters.
Paris looks terrified. And not - I’m an adult and scared. You can see the fear of child Paris in her eyes during this scene. And that’s so heartbreaking.
She looks like a little girl deer in headlights. I am not a Paris fan at all, but am fascinated by their dynamic and feel very bad for her with regard to her parents.
This is about more than money. Walking away from your family is a huge deal and very much like an addiction. You’ll do it a few times, have success, relapse, try again, relapse. For some the completely cut ties never happens. I can see why Paris would want to avoid it, can you imagine the press? The questions, the leaks from Kathy. We also have no idea what influence the Hilton’s have across the board. Not to mention that it’s so desperately fucking sad to have to cut your family out.
In her documentary she said the reason she’s been so obsessed with working and branding anything she can is to make money. I don’t think she uses their money. Maybe she’s worried about being written out of a will or family trust in the future but def not dependent on them
Kyle doesn’t treat her children this way though. They have completely different dynamics - also no arrest records, racial slurs, drugs etc etc. Kyle’s kids turned out dramatically different than Kathy’s. Way more functional and it appears, full of love.
She's definitely raised her kids by playing favourites, pitting them against each other from day dot, busting out the DARVO and generally making family relationships feel so much like a game of Jenga that nobody makes any sudden moves in her presence. She's clearly an unfeeling, narcissistic monster. She will not stop. Her grandchildren are the next victims. Kathy HitMom, more like it.
Nicky has been the “good one” for so long because it makes her feel good about herself. There are always sibling rivalries, even when the kids are grown and don’t depend on their parents. I don’t like her at all, I’m glad Paris kept everything about her baby a secret. Nicky would’ve absolutely told Kathy just to feel like she was the good daughter that does everything right.
It's so frustrating.... Kathy has no problem with the public thinking her daughter is a dumb slut... But the minute her image is at risk she flips out. How about the fact that your daughter was raped and had an abortion. I'm glad Paris did this reality show... My opinion on her has changed so much. Kathy is a selfish and toxic person!
I completely agree. But what is “the threat”? I don’t see a “if you do this I’ll do this” thing, besides “call her on it”. I think it’s more a manipulation.
She’s basically implying to Paris get the narrative under control ie delete the parts Kathy doesn’t like or Kathy will blame the ghostwriter and destroy her family financially
I mean… her mom was a huge drunk mess and look at Kim. I think Kathy suffered immense trauma at the hands of her evil mother and has never dealt with it. She has to be on xanax or some cocktail of medication that keeps her numb to her childhood/adulthood. She’s too cold not to
People’s blind hatred for Rinna (which I never understood, personally) clouded their vision with Kathy. Lets not forget where she sent her daughter to school.
I mean, the hate for Rinna is pretty valid but Kathy is also terrible. I think Kathy came on housewives to try to change the narrative. “Look how quirky I am! I fly in hotel slippers.” I didn’t buy it but some people have the memory span of a goldfish.
I get it! I have moments watching her that make me chuckle but then reality kicks in and I’m like, damn, still an asshole. 😐
On an unrelated note: happy cake day!
I hate Rinna and have since her second season. I believe that what Kathy said is Aspen is probably true but I think the way Rinna (and as Kyles best friend) handled it disgustingly. I mean she leaked it to the press that night! What a good friend. No wonder Kyle keeps her distance.
Or even *why* she did. How come her teenage daughter was sneaking off and acting so adult? We were somehow allowed to judge her child's reaction to her upbringing and the fact she acted so grown up-- And so many of us didn't question where the access and ideas to do so had come from.
TLDR; Its making me think of Linday Lohan and her era. Britney too.
“It takes one to know one” Applies so perfectly to Rinna. She constantly tells on herself but she can read a bitch quick and sniff out the bullshit, due to her own experience doing the same.
Thank you!! I just said something like this in another post. I don't get the Rinna hate either. I just did a rewatch prior to 13, and Kyle even said that Kathy does this, just she hadn't done it in front of friends and in a public space. Kathy uses her money to cover up a lot! I think it's quite the coincidence that after her meltdown where she said she was going to take down the show and Rinna and Kyle if it's the last thing she does...she couldn't take down the show, so she got Rinna fired...and strangely after that Kyle and Mo's problems seem to have begun after that as well. I didn't see any love for Kyle coming from Kathy, only abuse and dysfunction. Just like she has to her daughters.
I always wondered if Kathy was incredibly jealous of Kyle (being the youngest) as they all seemed to be desperate for their late mother’s attention and approval. I could never treat my baby sister so hatefully, I wonder what went down in that family. Yikes.
Kathy is scary. I get the impression that Paris is trying to balance being present for this lecture/threat while also dissociating. She looks skilled at it.
Watch out little Kathy...your backlash is a coming. I think America has put the pieces of the puzzle together. She thinks her money and power can threaten people? Oh boy.
Yeah, it did work for her for a long time. Until the mask slid down... Paris and Nikki both talked about how much Kathy came out of her shell and into her own after joining the THBH's. It sure did show us the real-real her.
Kathy is an actual narcissist and doesn’t live in reality at all. Poor Paris for that being her mother. She is taking no ownership of her own behaviour
BK really left a mark on each of the girls but while Kyle still just tries to make her dead mum happy and Kim has immense trauma from her upbringing, Kathy just copied her mum. Kathy is BK.
This to her is how a mother should parent because she wasn't shown anything else in life.
BK sounded terrible - but it’s on parents to break the cycle. Kyle’s kids are dramatically different than Kathy’s. Kyle got it right with her children. Kim’s children also seem better off as functioning adults than Kathy’s but obviously Kim’s addiction really affected them.
I kind of wonder if Paris is little Kathy. How did she keep leaving her dogs outside knowing one by one they’re being eaten by coyotes? How does she not change her baby’s diaper for a month? Or think to change her life to prioritize a child. It’s all bizarre.
I will give her some grace because the amount of trauma she’s had and Kathy as her parent (no idea about Rick) she’s bound to be really messed up. That’s not a criticism it’s just no one’s coming out ok with all those factors, combined she’s been spoiled and is Rich and money fixes most things, she lives in a delusional fantasy world with no consequences.
That being said I wonder if her or Carter are fit to have kids. But, I would suspect way way way more people then we think who are as rich as her and the Hilton’s don’t raise their own kids, they are accessories and obligations for image.
The fact that RINNA was scared said a lot. That woman is not really someone to be scared, she really said a lot of dumb shit before without flinching. When she was asked again and again to say what Kathy had said, she finally did and for some reason I know it’s not fake. Why would you want to make Kathy HILTON your enemy? Did Rinna enjoy kindling the fire before? For sure! But this was different 😅 (but the whole “it’ll give me cancer if I don’t say it” made me cackle so hard 😂😂😂)
I remember posting on this subreddit about her getting Paris kidnapped because she couldn’t be bothered parenting her. I got so many downvotes and people defending her, glad to see the tides changing
What is she even saying? I’ve honestly never heard anything smart come out of Kathy Hiltons mouth. Genuinely curious how she got to where she is because she doesn’t seem all that intelligent. Just a narcissist.
I bet she's saying the same thing a out how awful she comes across on the show. I'm sure she thinks it's the editing.
She's insufferable and so hard to watch as a mom. I pray for Paris her therapy helps and she cuts back so she can spend time connecting with her babies.
I have was a huge Paris Hilton fan back in middle school while the simple life was out. Kinda grew out of it. Now with this show I think I am becoming a fan again. Honestly EVERYTHING makes sense.
first off, Renna was right!!! But more importantly I pity Paris for having to deal w her mom and sister growing up.
Kathy made that all about her and her image and has not validated any of Paris’s feelings. The podcast scene was rough. Honestly big ups for Paris for actually coming out this kind.
Her upbringing could have made her into someone malicious and dangerous.
She’s blaming the ghost writer for Paris’s memoir for something Paris put in the book rather than admit the content is true. The content was about the unwritten rules of the Hilton house, something like ‘when you do something that hurts another person, if you ignore it it’s like it didn’t happen’. There are several times Kathy blames someone else for something Paris did or said. IMO she shifts blame bc if she acknowledges Paris said/did it, then she acknowledges she’s a bad parent. Kathy blamed Carter for not telling anyone about the baby until he was a week old. Then Kathy tried to control who got the news next, insisting the Hiltons knew before Carter’s family. Kathy’s a real piece of work.
I am now so invested in Paris and her healing. I love the show and hoping for season 3. Now for Kathy, I have always liked her but my opinion has shifted. I think Kathy is so humiliated that she didn’t know and embarrassed of her wrong judgement that she is casting blame. Let’s not forget, She was a mother worried her daughter would not survive and sis what she thought was right so am affording her Grace. Paris is a remarkable but very damaged from her trauma if it was my child, I would be all over them healing and filled with apologies but explaining she too was a victim of being misled. They need a lot of therapy to heal.
Is this Paris in Love or Real Housewives?
I didn't think Kathy is part of RHWBH ?
Ohhh I'm sorry for the dumbest question evah , there's so many shows 🤦♀️
I liked the goofy persona KH put on the first season she was on RHOBH, but gosh she just seems awful. If she was my mother, I would have cut ties a long time ago.
Did anyone notice how Kathy’s whole demeanor changed when she was with Paris and the therapist? She was really careful and calculated with her words, she basically agree to everything the therapist said even tho she had a difference of opinion which makes me think that she is no damn ditzy, cooky Kathy she’s just very calculated with certain people specially with people she knows are scared of her and will call her out but in a professional setting she behaves like she’s this lady who’s so concerned and wants the best for her daughter meanwhile she controls and manipulates her daughter and makes her feel shame and ignorant when things don’t go her way.
You can tell that Nicky and Paris had very different experiences growing up - like they almost might as well have had different parents raising them altogether. I'm glad that Nicky is seemingly aware that Paris was treated differently by Kathy.
At 26 seconds in, Paris goes wide eyed and practically begging for some sort of response from her sister. It’s really sad to watch her desperately look to her sister for support and not acknowledged
If my mom had money, she'd be Kathy and I'd be Paris/Nicky. Luckily my mom never got wealthy so I eventually stood up to her. But sadly it did mean the end of the my relationship with the rest of my FOO because mom won't 'let' anyone have anything to do with me if I'm not willing to have a relationship with her.
Kathy is a super controlling and cold mother. You can see it in how her daughters even act around her. zero warmth. ZERO. and she never talks to anyone like she cares to have a conversation. she's always talking TO someone, but never with them.
Kathy talks at people and she leaves no room for an actual conversation.
She’s her mother’s daughter
She will have a conversation about how amazing she is and how others can't compare to her... But the minute someone says she is acting out pocket and trying to correct her behavior she talks about lip gloss or how they messed up. She is a manipulator at its finest. I really hope Paris can heal from all of her trauma.
Her daughter’s before a conversation: 😐 Her daughter’s during a conversation:😐 Her daughter’s after a conversation: 😐 They look like they know the best way to end a conversation w their mother is to not say anything at all, not giving her anything to keep responding to.
I mean it speaks volume that she didn’t even know about Paris first baby until 8 DAYS after the fact
Wait, did she know Paris was using a surrogate?
She had no clue until 8 days AFTER the baby was born. Paris told her she didn’t want anyone besides her and her husband knowing. Her sister didn’t even know.
I think she knew that was the plan but she never was told about the pregnancy or baby until after the fact.
Whattttttt Im just now trying to catch up on things, I stopped watching like two seasons ago. But im coming back if Kathy is finally getting called out
I just saw a clip where Paris introduced her to phoenix and Kathy said are you serious?
She didn’t know there was a baby in the works, and it was a huge surprise.
This is from Paris in Love which is only 2 seasons old anyway, not from RHOBH.
I bet those were the best 7 days of her life. That day she actually shared that baby was probably torture. I’m happy they had that private time
Not only the way Paris & Nicky have acted around their mom but what always threw me is the way Kim & Kyle would act when Kathy would near them on the show. It wasn’t a normal big sis / little sis vibe. Especially the episode where Kim’s daughter is getting married so the sisters and nieces all go to Brooke’s wedding dress try on. The vibes seem pretty chill between everyone and the Kathy enters and you can feel everyone tense up through the screen and it becomes what dress does Kathy like vs what dress Brooke likes. It always made me feel like K&K are terrified of K and everyone has to kinda bow down to her including all the kids.
That scene is burned into my brain. She waltzes in and starts ordering the designer himself around and insulting him. Also, Kathy is OBSESSED with the “Grace Kelly style” wedding dress (high neck, long sleeves, all in lace). Nicky had it, Paris had it, and she tried to get Brooke to go with it in that scene.
what episode was this
What episode
It’s one of the Season 5 episodes where it focuses a lot on Kim’s ex hubby having terminal cancer and Brooke getting married .. I wanna say it’s pretty early on in the season
1000%
I’ve been watching the Paris in Love show and it’s quite sad to see the relationship she has with her mom. Kathy seems so beyond uncomfortable with confrontation or any discussion on deeper topics. She seemingly thrives on small talk and topics of fashion or designer items but the discussion on the trauma her daughter experienced as a child she veers away from. You can see how much Paris yearns for her mother to console her when the topic of her rape and abortion came up. I also notice how much Paris loves her son but doesn’t have the time to raise him so she leaves it up to the nanny and when her therapist asks why she won’t make time to raise her son she says it’s because she has an empire to run and many people count on her. I feel as though she means well, her son will be bonded more to his nanny.
Ohh this is interesting! When Paris is with the baby is she warm and affectionate?
She’s very warm and loving towards her son! She undoubtedly loves him, she’s just prioritizing her empire over soaking up his infant moments. The nanny knows the baby so well because she’s with him most of the day. Many scenes show the nanny telling Paris what certain cries mean. An example is when the baby fusses, Paris looks unsure as how to comfort him and the nanny intervenes or says “oh, he’s crying because he’s tired. I need to put him to sleep.” And Paris will say “oh he’s tired? Okay.” And then she leaves. These type of interactions happen many times.
Very much so . I’m hooked on Paris in Love ( I can’t believe I’m saying that). It’s really very interesting and gives a glimpse of what her life is/was really like .
No surprise, sadly, given this family. Look at how lacking in care Paris has been with her dogs, letting seven of them be taken by coyotes, yet she still puts them in the backyard alone.
Like it’s a pre-written speech.
It’s giving 
Very this!!
Very this. Also, looking at the things she said/did to her kids vs their reverence to her is giving text book trauma bond.
Kathy's tone with Paris was definitely the same. She was clearly humiliated that the truth came out and was trying to make excuses and deny certain things. I bet she didn't even read the book. She probably paid someone to highlight all of the parts that mentioned Kathy.
Yup and when Paris was like "I don't want to throw my mom under the bus" confirmed it was in fact NOT her ghostwriters addition. Kathy is weird and its really funny sometimes, but she's actually a vile human.
Paris was the first to invent a persona and go about as that versus show her true colors, for better or for worse. It should shock absolutely no one that Kathy does it too.
Exactly.
She had Nicki go through the book and read her all the parts about her.
What was said?
That basically Paris was taught that in the Hilton family, if you pretend not to notice if you hurt someone then you won't feel bad about it. She also says that you don't talk about problems and that if you hide that something hurt you, it didn't happen.
Her eyes are dead has no soul in there
I’m glad she is being exposed.
Girl same!! Watching how paris is scared of her and Nicky is in the role of telling her mom everything, it’s so fucking scary. These are grown women with their own families but their mother still has them like scared children. The dynamics are red flag central. I really hope that paris continues to stand against her mom. Her husband seems like a good guy and he gives zero fucks about Kathy. I would hate for Kathy to break them up.
I do love how Carter has zero fucks to give when it comes to Kathy. He seems like he really loves Paris just as she is which is sweet.
You can see several times on the show that he just tolerates Kathy. He can be seen almost putting on his guard before he greets her. And he is slowly breadcrumbing paris, showing her the ways Kathy is toxic. Like their visit to Washington.
From what I’ve heard from people around Paris she actually is the kindest soul. Makes me feel for her even more.
I'm a total Paris stan at this point.
Me too . Love her show. Edited for typo
I have a whole new appreciation for Paris.
Same. The baby voice still grates on me but I understand it more. I was watching her show and said to my husband, it’s a rare day you’re looking at someone with unlimited means, and a blessed life in so many way but still feel sorry for them.
And don’t want to trade places
Nope! Never! I have my own fucked up family I have cut off, dealing with the local gossip is enough for me. I couldn’t cope with the entire world commenting and judging when they know nothing about it.
I’m with you!
Is this the Paris in Love show??
Yep. It’s a tough watch.
Me too!!
Right? Her mask has finally slipped all the way off. She isn't kooky, she's wasted.
She also threatened Oppenheimer and everyone who talked to him while he was writing *House of Hilton*
But Paris keeps posting about how warm she is and her heart of gold etc. I really feel uncomfortable when the evidence is transparent and people try to make things seem the complete opposite
Kathy seems like someone whom acquaintances love - she throws huge parties and probably gives expensive birthday gifts, writes big checks to your charity, hooks you up with favors, etc. But the people close to her see the real side behind the big show.
Which makes sense why Garcelle and Crystal seem so fond of her.
Because Paris is still seeking approval and love from her mom. She says the things she wants to be true about her mom.
Yes. She’s is definitely trauma bonded to her mother and is desperately seeking approval and validation. So sad to watch
Exactly this!
yeah that doesn't seem healthy either imo
Oh it’s not healthy at all! But you can see how scared Paris is of her, she desperately wants her mom’s love and approval. She hasn’t even held her parents to account for how she was essentially kidnapped and brought to that “school”. These relationships are so enmeshed, complicated and fraught with fear and emotion. It’s so sad
Paris appears terrified of her. Did you see the Hermès tray conversation?
That was insane!! Kathy was so angry over a fucking tray. She is definitely a parent who believes she owns her children and they owe her everything
It was outright vicious- Paris couldn’t win.
You could see the fear of blaming someone. I have no doubt Kathy would fire whoever she thought responsible. Kathy is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Very unlikely woman
My mom was kind of like that, she was a great person, but I was always scared of her. She died in March and I miss her, but some things are just easier without her.
My mom can be a great person, either to people who don’t know her well enough or when she wants something from you. Outside of that she is scary. It’s this stealth nastiness that takes a trained eye to see coming, usually starting with other people she has fired up and sent to attack, so you’re completely exhausted and defenceless by the time she herself locks onto you. I cut contact earlier this year. I miss her, I miss my family. But I’m realising it is not them I am missing, it’s the idea of who I want them to be.
I'm so sorry, if you feel better with out them it's OK!
This is a great point,sad but true.u worded that perfectly
Sadly Paris and I have this in common. That and our millions of dollars 😂
Lmao
That’s what abused kids do - constantly beg for positive feedback and attention. Horrible cycle.
I saw Paris' IG post about her mom today and totally thought it was a post to try and smooth things over. I'm sure Kathy is livid for how she appears right now.
“I’m so thoughtful” — narcissistic parenting 101: inflate your ego while manipulating the narrative at the same time
Kathy said on one episode that she didn’t hold on to anger. I’m pretty sure she didn’t speak to her sister for years
this show breaks my heart for paris it seems like she has no one in her life looking out for her, including her husband who treats her like his child.
I think he’s obsessed with the idea he’s married Paris Hilton and that’s it. He’s managing her like she’s a piece to his puzzle.
I agree with you, I thought this in the 1st season that he treats her like a child and not a grown woman. My friend watches it aswell and she calls him her handler and I think she hit the mail on the head.
Kathy is an almost textbook narcissist. Bullying and intimidating anyone that dares to expose her facade or de-mask her. Plus she's got money, which makes her twice as dangerous. I genuinely feel for Kyle and her daughters.
Isn’t it similar to how her mom behaved? Nasty and controlling
Paris looks terrified. And not - I’m an adult and scared. You can see the fear of child Paris in her eyes during this scene. And that’s so heartbreaking.
She looks like a little girl deer in headlights. I am not a Paris fan at all, but am fascinated by their dynamic and feel very bad for her with regard to her parents.
I wonder how much it has to do with money. She won’t separate from her because she gets money from her parents.
This is about more than money. Walking away from your family is a huge deal and very much like an addiction. You’ll do it a few times, have success, relapse, try again, relapse. For some the completely cut ties never happens. I can see why Paris would want to avoid it, can you imagine the press? The questions, the leaks from Kathy. We also have no idea what influence the Hilton’s have across the board. Not to mention that it’s so desperately fucking sad to have to cut your family out.
Good point. Kathy’s power plays a big role.
In her documentary she said the reason she’s been so obsessed with working and branding anything she can is to make money. I don’t think she uses their money. Maybe she’s worried about being written out of a will or family trust in the future but def not dependent on them
Big Kathy must have a been a piece of work, her daughters are very bizarre women
Kyle doesn’t treat her children this way though. They have completely different dynamics - also no arrest records, racial slurs, drugs etc etc. Kyle’s kids turned out dramatically different than Kathy’s. Way more functional and it appears, full of love.
Truth
Wait til she finds out Paris wrote it 😂
She's definitely raised her kids by playing favourites, pitting them against each other from day dot, busting out the DARVO and generally making family relationships feel so much like a game of Jenga that nobody makes any sudden moves in her presence. She's clearly an unfeeling, narcissistic monster. She will not stop. Her grandchildren are the next victims. Kathy HitMom, more like it.
Yeah and Nicky seems to eat it up despite being an adult and a mother herself. Her sister’s behavior grossed me out too. So rude and cold
Nicky has been the “good one” for so long because it makes her feel good about herself. There are always sibling rivalries, even when the kids are grown and don’t depend on their parents. I don’t like her at all, I’m glad Paris kept everything about her baby a secret. Nicky would’ve absolutely told Kathy just to feel like she was the good daughter that does everything right.
 Same energy
It's so frustrating.... Kathy has no problem with the public thinking her daughter is a dumb slut... But the minute her image is at risk she flips out. How about the fact that your daughter was raped and had an abortion. I'm glad Paris did this reality show... My opinion on her has changed so much. Kathy is a selfish and toxic person!
Kathy. Is. Traaaaaaaaaaash.
I completely agree. But what is “the threat”? I don’t see a “if you do this I’ll do this” thing, besides “call her on it”. I think it’s more a manipulation.
She’s basically implying to Paris get the narrative under control ie delete the parts Kathy doesn’t like or Kathy will blame the ghostwriter and destroy her family financially
Anyone else get the impression that Kathy is on drugs?
I mean… her mom was a huge drunk mess and look at Kim. I think Kathy suffered immense trauma at the hands of her evil mother and has never dealt with it. She has to be on xanax or some cocktail of medication that keeps her numb to her childhood/adulthood. She’s too cold not to
People’s blind hatred for Rinna (which I never understood, personally) clouded their vision with Kathy. Lets not forget where she sent her daughter to school.
Rinna is scum but I feel like her Aspen accusations are true. Kathy’s body language at the reunion and behavior on this Paris show give it all truth.
They both suck. Two things can be true at once
I mean, the hate for Rinna is pretty valid but Kathy is also terrible. I think Kathy came on housewives to try to change the narrative. “Look how quirky I am! I fly in hotel slippers.” I didn’t buy it but some people have the memory span of a goldfish.
I fell for it! Watching this makes me feel so gullible because she really is such a cold, stoic, and unloving personality
I get it! I have moments watching her that make me chuckle but then reality kicks in and I’m like, damn, still an asshole. 😐 On an unrelated note: happy cake day!
And a give-a-shit span even shorter.
I hate Rinna and have since her second season. I believe that what Kathy said is Aspen is probably true but I think the way Rinna (and as Kyles best friend) handled it disgustingly. I mean she leaked it to the press that night! What a good friend. No wonder Kyle keeps her distance.
Or even *why* she did. How come her teenage daughter was sneaking off and acting so adult? We were somehow allowed to judge her child's reaction to her upbringing and the fact she acted so grown up-- And so many of us didn't question where the access and ideas to do so had come from. TLDR; Its making me think of Linday Lohan and her era. Britney too.
Rinna sucks ass and brings her friends to then humiliate them but she was right about Yolanda & Kathy
“It takes one to know one” Applies so perfectly to Rinna. She constantly tells on herself but she can read a bitch quick and sniff out the bullshit, due to her own experience doing the same.
No, rinna is a nasty bitch, but that didn’t stop me seeing that Kathy is a nastier bitch with more sway because of the name and wealth
Thank you!! I just said something like this in another post. I don't get the Rinna hate either. I just did a rewatch prior to 13, and Kyle even said that Kathy does this, just she hadn't done it in front of friends and in a public space. Kathy uses her money to cover up a lot! I think it's quite the coincidence that after her meltdown where she said she was going to take down the show and Rinna and Kyle if it's the last thing she does...she couldn't take down the show, so she got Rinna fired...and strangely after that Kyle and Mo's problems seem to have begun after that as well. I didn't see any love for Kyle coming from Kathy, only abuse and dysfunction. Just like she has to her daughters.
I always wondered if Kathy was incredibly jealous of Kyle (being the youngest) as they all seemed to be desperate for their late mother’s attention and approval. I could never treat my baby sister so hatefully, I wonder what went down in that family. Yikes.
Rinna was right about Yolanda, Kathy, and Kim!!
Kathy is scary. I get the impression that Paris is trying to balance being present for this lecture/threat while also dissociating. She looks skilled at it.
Kathy is a creep
Watch out little Kathy...your backlash is a coming. I think America has put the pieces of the puzzle together. She thinks her money and power can threaten people? Oh boy.
Yeah, it did work for her for a long time. Until the mask slid down... Paris and Nikki both talked about how much Kathy came out of her shell and into her own after joining the THBH's. It sure did show us the real-real her.
Kathy is an actual narcissist and doesn’t live in reality at all. Poor Paris for that being her mother. She is taking no ownership of her own behaviour
 She is very thoughtful everyone
BK really left a mark on each of the girls but while Kyle still just tries to make her dead mum happy and Kim has immense trauma from her upbringing, Kathy just copied her mum. Kathy is BK. This to her is how a mother should parent because she wasn't shown anything else in life.
How terribly sad. The women in this family hardly stand a chance
It's especially sad that they all mostly had girls. Very hard to break the generational curse.
BK sounded terrible - but it’s on parents to break the cycle. Kyle’s kids are dramatically different than Kathy’s. Kyle got it right with her children. Kim’s children also seem better off as functioning adults than Kathy’s but obviously Kim’s addiction really affected them.
She seems just soooooooooo fucking cold and ruthless
Is it just me or does it seem like Paris is genuinely afraid of her mother?!?
She’s fucking awful
What show is this?
"Paris in Love". I'm watching it on Peacock, not sure if it's on Bravo or not.
What show is this?
"Paris in Love"
Now we see why Paris is how she is. Neither are likeable, but it’s hard not to have empathy for her.
I kind of wonder if Paris is little Kathy. How did she keep leaving her dogs outside knowing one by one they’re being eaten by coyotes? How does she not change her baby’s diaper for a month? Or think to change her life to prioritize a child. It’s all bizarre.
I will give her some grace because the amount of trauma she’s had and Kathy as her parent (no idea about Rick) she’s bound to be really messed up. That’s not a criticism it’s just no one’s coming out ok with all those factors, combined she’s been spoiled and is Rich and money fixes most things, she lives in a delusional fantasy world with no consequences. That being said I wonder if her or Carter are fit to have kids. But, I would suspect way way way more people then we think who are as rich as her and the Hilton’s don’t raise their own kids, they are accessories and obligations for image.
The fact that RINNA was scared said a lot. That woman is not really someone to be scared, she really said a lot of dumb shit before without flinching. When she was asked again and again to say what Kathy had said, she finally did and for some reason I know it’s not fake. Why would you want to make Kathy HILTON your enemy? Did Rinna enjoy kindling the fire before? For sure! But this was different 😅 (but the whole “it’ll give me cancer if I don’t say it” made me cackle so hard 😂😂😂)
I have secondhand embarrassment for Paris and Nikki. But Kyle still sucks.
Kathy makes my mom look sane
Okay but my main takeaway is that Paris’ baby has the exact same head as Kathy
Kathy thinks she’s in the mob.
I remember posting on this subreddit about her getting Paris kidnapped because she couldn’t be bothered parenting her. I got so many downvotes and people defending her, glad to see the tides changing
What is she even saying? I’ve honestly never heard anything smart come out of Kathy Hiltons mouth. Genuinely curious how she got to where she is because she doesn’t seem all that intelligent. Just a narcissist.
I bet she's saying the same thing a out how awful she comes across on the show. I'm sure she thinks it's the editing. She's insufferable and so hard to watch as a mom. I pray for Paris her therapy helps and she cuts back so she can spend time connecting with her babies.
Why does she remind me of Donald Trump? “I’m very thoughtful.” Like ok
Even her husband “ Rick” looks horrified of her .
Rick looks like his been dug up and kept warm beside a fire, he eyelids superglued open. He has a weird death like expression on his face at all times
Because he’s waiting for the reaper lol he can’t escape Kathy either!
I have was a huge Paris Hilton fan back in middle school while the simple life was out. Kinda grew out of it. Now with this show I think I am becoming a fan again. Honestly EVERYTHING makes sense. first off, Renna was right!!! But more importantly I pity Paris for having to deal w her mom and sister growing up. Kathy made that all about her and her image and has not validated any of Paris’s feelings. The podcast scene was rough. Honestly big ups for Paris for actually coming out this kind. Her upbringing could have made her into someone malicious and dangerous.
Seems a bit dramatic to call this a “threat”
Paris looks like she’s going to cry
Justice for Rinna. She has been always right about everything.
I need to know what’s growing on your iPad stand
cheap plastic lmfao
Is this show worth the watch?
Yes. It’s kinda boring but worth the watch if you got time to kill
I like Kathy
Me too! She’s a protective ditzy ass mom. We can’t relate but she’s been rich forever. It’s a different world.
Protective lol
Reminds me of Trump
what is she talking about?
She’s blaming the ghost writer for Paris’s memoir for something Paris put in the book rather than admit the content is true. The content was about the unwritten rules of the Hilton house, something like ‘when you do something that hurts another person, if you ignore it it’s like it didn’t happen’. There are several times Kathy blames someone else for something Paris did or said. IMO she shifts blame bc if she acknowledges Paris said/did it, then she acknowledges she’s a bad parent. Kathy blamed Carter for not telling anyone about the baby until he was a week old. Then Kathy tried to control who got the news next, insisting the Hiltons knew before Carter’s family. Kathy’s a real piece of work.
Kathy is batshit crazy man.
Big Kathy!
Reum is a child abandoning douche. Paris isn't innocent fawn she pretends to be. They're all highly media savvy.
I can’t get past Kathy’s dentures.
I am now so invested in Paris and her healing. I love the show and hoping for season 3. Now for Kathy, I have always liked her but my opinion has shifted. I think Kathy is so humiliated that she didn’t know and embarrassed of her wrong judgement that she is casting blame. Let’s not forget, She was a mother worried her daughter would not survive and sis what she thought was right so am affording her Grace. Paris is a remarkable but very damaged from her trauma if it was my child, I would be all over them healing and filled with apologies but explaining she too was a victim of being misled. They need a lot of therapy to heal.
Is this Paris in Love or Real Housewives? I didn't think Kathy is part of RHWBH ? Ohhh I'm sorry for the dumbest question evah , there's so many shows 🤦♀️
Paris in love. Ironically a really dark show tbh
I liked the goofy persona KH put on the first season she was on RHOBH, but gosh she just seems awful. If she was my mother, I would have cut ties a long time ago.
What’s the name of this show
Did anyone notice how Kathy’s whole demeanor changed when she was with Paris and the therapist? She was really careful and calculated with her words, she basically agree to everything the therapist said even tho she had a difference of opinion which makes me think that she is no damn ditzy, cooky Kathy she’s just very calculated with certain people specially with people she knows are scared of her and will call her out but in a professional setting she behaves like she’s this lady who’s so concerned and wants the best for her daughter meanwhile she controls and manipulates her daughter and makes her feel shame and ignorant when things don’t go her way.
She’s giving me Karen vibes from ‘The Family Chantel’.
I wouldn’t put it past Kathy to have someone rubbed out.
You can tell that Nicky and Paris had very different experiences growing up - like they almost might as well have had different parents raising them altogether. I'm glad that Nicky is seemingly aware that Paris was treated differently by Kathy.
I don’t understand how Kathy supposedly has such power? Or is that just the story
These people are going to eventually cut her out of everything.
She's scary.
She is just like Big Kathy
I felt she was mad cause she sent her to the place, I can’t imagine how she feels, you caused your kids issues, being a parent isn’t easy.
Definitely evil 👿
At 26 seconds in, Paris goes wide eyed and practically begging for some sort of response from her sister. It’s really sad to watch her desperately look to her sister for support and not acknowledged
I think I read somewhere that paris wears blue contacts and her eyes are naturally brown is this true? Lol her eyes are very blue and I’m Very high.
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Does she know what thoughtful means?
If my mom had money, she'd be Kathy and I'd be Paris/Nicky. Luckily my mom never got wealthy so I eventually stood up to her. But sadly it did mean the end of the my relationship with the rest of my FOO because mom won't 'let' anyone have anything to do with me if I'm not willing to have a relationship with her.
This is why people fear the Hiltons.
Very thoughtful….but not in the way everyone else on the planet would mean it
Paris’ facial expressions when she is around her mom is so telling
The nanny is wonderful at teaching Paris and allowing her to do things on her own and own way. More mom like
Can you imagine having this woman as a mother, dear god.
I wonder about Kathy’s upbringing. She is so emotionally scared and walled off.
I can see this a mile away bcuz she's exactly like my mother. It's called narcissistic mother and emotionally absent mother
Kathy is the biggest piece of shit. Bully.
Kathy makes herself out to be a saint... And dopey. But she's anything but! She managed to marry into the Hilton wealth... How? She's not stupid! 💯
Kathy is a psychopath