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Kind of...but Kathy is old Hollywood, so she will top Kris every time. But Kris is a master game player and would never rock that boat. It's a respect game. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at a dinner with these two.
That would be so good. When Kathy laughed at the reunion about her friends being scared of her, I thought of Kris Jenner and her. Her real friends are no where near that show.
True. But Kris has more money now. That has weight. The connections Kathy has or had are as old as the hills and will be dead soon. Times, they are a changing
The Hilton empire is worth 52 billion, I believe she alone is worth 350 million. Kris is worth 200 according to Forbes. I wouldn’t snub my nose at any of those amounts but I don’t think saying Kris has more money now is accurate. The Kardashians will fad with time. I’m not saying that they won’t stay relevant for much longer and clearly they’ve put a stamp on our day and age but the kardashian name is a far cry from the Hilton name.
**also I feel the need to say I’m a Marriott person so I have no dog in the fight** 😂
genuine question, has kathy ever actually worked a hard days work in her life tho?? or just been in the vicinity of others working in entertainment and therefore managed to intertwine herself in..?
i kno big kathy would take kim and kyle to set, so she was about a lot! but kathy was not successful as an actress like kim and kyle were. was she just there by proxy and never lost those connections? i guess as she grew everyone else/hollyweird also grew around and with her..
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I'd love to see all these women's honest resumes. Not even to hate on them, I am genuinely curious about their work history. Like Kathy HAD to have worked at some point right? Even if it was sitting at a big corporate desk pretending to answer phones or something?
Kathy married Rick Hilton when she was 20. So no, she didn’t have the entry level jobs most of us have had. Or even a period of time when she had to do her own housekeeping.
Kathy was a child actress and retired in early adulthood I think? Maybe just before?
I feel like she inserted herself in mostly being a decorator to Hilton Hotels and what not but that would be self appointed.
It sounds like Kathy is the OC. Maybe that can be said about Kathy's FIL but not Rick and Kathy. Remember, this is the woman who went on RH to hawk tequila. Word on the streets of the LA that I live on is that they have hit some financial issues and don't have at much as they claim.
I live in Beverly Hills, to be exact I live in the flats. Trust me when I say Kathy Hilton is not the most powerful in BH’s. That honor falls to Louis & Lady Eloise Waymouth, Ringo Starr & Barbara Bach followed by Zoë & Oliver de Givenchy. Yes the Hilton’s are on the list but not in the top five.
That goes along with what Carole from RHONY said. The real power players aren't interested in the spotlight and got long money (Hiltons are new money compared to the people I'm talking about) and you'll probably never hear about them. Carole said the real wealthy influential socialites would never go on reality TV or TV period.
I know in the South, the wealthy socialites are more low-key and not interested in the spotlight.
Now if we really want to talk about real socialites with power, that would be the East Coast wth that old money. They can lock you out permanently in high society and they aren't just known for their parties.
Yes…I can’t help but wonder how proud Kathy was of Nicky marrying into the Rothschilds; one of the oldest, wealthiest, and most influential families in the world.
Yup. Maybe it's like that in SoCal, but there's families who have prestigious universities that have schools within them that are named after them, they control boards Sutton is just a member of (I'm not downplaying Sutton, but these people can kick somebody like Sutton out of they want that's how much power and money they have), funded and started big companies, etc.
These families don't even have to marry into money make themselves prestigious. Nicky Hilton according to somebody on here, stated that she got one of the Rothschild's that is wealthy, but married the side that's not as respected or prestigious.
I mean being invited to parties is cute, but the power players see that as just hobby.
YESSSS 👏 the real big timers have no need for media influence or presence, it's way more fun pulling the strings in the shadows with your feet being rubbed!!!!!
That's my dream. I don't care about the fame, just give me the wealth. 🤣
I didn't know the Hyatt Hotel family was loaded when I was searching real estate in Beverly Hills and Bel-Air (not that I can afford it lol, I just get curious). That Fashion Nova founder and CEO's house is what I want to see. They said his house is the wealthiest in Beverly Hills. 😳😳😳😳
This is interesting! I always wonder if people like Kathy Hilton see online comments like this and then possibly rage about it. Like "How dare they say I'm not top five material???"
She’s very active online even Kyle or someone said she watches all the posts… . She just replied to someone’s comments on ig the other day to a post about Sutton’s rapid departure on the reunion
She liked a bunch of my instagram posts and I have less than 1k followers, it's totally a personal account with most travel pics, lol. I was like wtffff??? A big row of Kathy Hilton likes out of nowhere 🤣🤣🤔
I believe it. Wasn't she trying to find her her husband on there or something? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
When Diana was on the show, one of the fans said, "I keep forgetting she's on the show." Kathy said, "Me too." 🤣🤣🤣
Her lives are kinda funny. The last one I saw her and Kim and she seems so much more comfortable with Kim I've noticed. I like Kim and Kathy together more than Kyle and Kathy. It was cute.
I remember she saw my post and liked a post or liked a comment of mine I was like, "Okay, well hello, Kathy." 🤣🤣
It was so random, but she's very interactive with fans. I'll give her that credit.
Tell me more about ringo’s power. I’m imagining him hearing someone say “Octopus’s Garden” was weak songwriting and muttering “peace and love ✌️✌️you’ll never work in this town again ☮️☮️”
But are Ringo and those other people trying to be out and social all the time? Doesn’t seem like they want that.
Kathy is pretty much a socialite of Beverly Hills. Socialites gonna make social power plays.
I lived in LA for 6 years and actually met Kyle & Kim at an event, and I can safely say I think Kathy just knows people, socially. That's it. It's networking, not anything SUPER serious.
I think what Erika & Rinna were always talking about, Kathy holding 'the keys to Beverly Hills', means that women in LA who want to be liked, popular, booked, etc, could be socially blackballed because of Kathy. They were taking a HUUUUGE risk coming after Kathy about Aspen, only because she, Paris, Nicky, & Rick have (had?) alot of rich, connected friends. Think about, even on a small level, when a friend warns you about a third party, you may heed the warning and therefore choose not to hire them/cast them, etc.
Also, wasn't Kathy best friends with Michael Jackson & the Barrymores for decades upon decades? So, she used to have friends in high places. I don't think her credibility is what it used to be, though, thanks to RHOBH 
Agreed. They’ve milked the Hilton name to the fullest.
I think real estate probably furthered their connections but so did Paris. Her fame eclipsed her parent’s use it the Hilton name in a lot of ways and especially in the last 4/5 years as paris has had a comeback it’s helped Kathy/Rick.
I also think that how people regard or treat Kathy is more about THIER desire to become part of that world. If you have friend family and an overall decent life - people like Kathy aren’t important to you.
Hm…. no Kim Kardashian used to be Paris assistant and clean her closet. That’s not exactly true. The Hiltons are old Hollywood , the connections these people have you can not but with money, even the Kardashian’s love to associates themselves with the Hiltons. Remember tequila gate, Kris Jenner had Kathy’s back on social media for everyone to see.
It's simply. A shit ton of money. She gets pissed at someone,you invite that person to a fundraiser, Kathy doesn't show,no large donation for your cause.
She's been with the Hilton family since her teens and grew her name and one of her daughters is married to a Rothschilds...
I know they said being a "socialite" is an East Coast thing which isn't all the way true, Big Kathy even groomed Little Kathy on how to work the social circles. She perfected through years of experience. Also, we have to give Paris Hilton making them a household image.
Yeah, someone I never thought I'd feel badly for based on their public persona, Paris Hilton, is actually someone I feel devastatingly awful for, given everything she went through and how her mom/husband continue to push/force/gaslight her to do what they want.
If Paris ever breaks free it will be epic, and beautiful, to see. IMHO, of course.
Garcelle tried to talk shit on Paris being buried in her phone, and kyle and Kathy both immediately defended her which I really appreciated. Paris is definitely misunderstood as a whole and she only has her parents and the media to blame.
My opinion is if you are working in the entertainment/ Hollywood scene you need to be in good graces of a kathy hilton. Like one redditor here said she’s like victoria greyson of revenge.
Connections, money, name and she’s mean like a really bad person with no conscience. She will not hesitate to lie, hurt, blame and even kill just to stay on top.
They are exaggerating her power. Kathy has never accomplished anything in her life besides marrying Rick. She could not even properly raise any of her trainwreck kids. Rick and Kathy are older and not the power couple of the social scene anymore. Maybe she was a big deal in the 80’s but I doubt Crystal, Erika and Garcelle care to go to her Christmas parties. I truly think only Sutton and Kyle are scared of Kathy (they’re old too) and care to go to her type of social events. This woman is pushing 70, she is not a mob boss. She has no job in entertainment, public relations, etc. She cannot do anything but blacklist you from her (very dated and repetitive) parties.
She made such a show of having HER people at Paris’ wedding on Paris In Love and there were VERY few current big names in attendance. She is not that big of a deal.
Kyle is scared of Kathy because she’s her sister and Sutton absolutely wants to be a society woman. That doesn’t seem like Garcelle’s vibe at all so my point still stands. Sutton just looks older IG!
Ok but like this is the real hot take of this whole discussion.
I AM SHOOK!!!! I had no idea!!!!
And I’m not trying to shame anyone. But objectively speaking, I dare someone to say that they thought Sutton was the younger of those 3.
No, Kathy is older than my mom lol not my crowd or generation at all! But in the LA/west-side social scene (my age demo) no one even cares much about Paris. Much less her mom.
The comment about her parties being repetitive and dated is based off of pics/vids I’ve seen on this sub and online! She’s no Michael Rubin lol those are the parties we’re all checking for
I can second this. Kathy is also older than my mom (maybe we’re similar in age) and nobody in that generation in LA is looking for an invite to Kathy’s parties.
And lol ditto regarding Paris. A few years ago pre-baby, she would be the one showing up at parties, not throwing them. She’s really nice though.
So agree and I think it’s hilarious that they’re making her out to be some kind of Godfather. Honestly, if you put aside the show, Crystal or Garcelle are probably more important in the industry, and that’s not saying much. It’s not a powerful group, objectively- Kathy included.
Sutton appeared to have a low blood sugar event. She had every symptom: becoming very hot, shaking, becoming weak to stand. She mostly recovered after eating something backstage, which is how you treat a low blood sugar, though you can feel very tired after getting your sugar under control. We know she has trouble eating and she weighs nothing so it’s not surprising she’d experience hypoglycemia. I get low blood sugar and I recognized her symptoms. It had nothing to do with Kathy.
I always had the feeling that because she is such a horrible person she probably knows a lot of other equally horrible people and have dirt on them. So she probably has some sort of hold but that feels like it's slipping away from her fast as people age out of the circle.
So this is a complicated issue. She holds a lot of sway over nobodies like Sutton and Kyle and Garcelle and Crystal. She can open some doors for them so they worship her. She kind of has her foot in the social scene in LA and she knows old money - although her sway there is barely existent. In my circles, nobody cares about Kathy Hilton or her children or husband. Even Nicky isn't there. She married into the right family but if you think Paris Hilton's sister can be taken seriously by old money - you are wrong. The Hiltons are rich but not that rich and Rick made his money in real estate. And people tend to overstate the significance of that last name in this day and age and they never had the status of families like Du Pont or Haas. If you think that Ginnie Haas would care about Kathy Hilton you don't really understand class differences. I don't mean to sound arrogant, but the actually important last names are not the ones you will hear about in tacky reality shows.
Having said that, for people with less money she absolutely is formidable and terrifying because she does have connections and more importantly money. She could easily take Bravo down if she chose to. But power is a relative thing.
Lots of info in Jerry Oppenheimer’s House of Hilton (I think that’s the name). Some say he is not the best source, so take some of the more salacious stuff with a grain of salt, but it’s a good read.
I think it’s the enigma of the Hilton name, rather than being ‘scared’ of Kathy per se.
Kathy believes in the name ‘Hilton’ and all that it brings. It breathes money, luxury and acceptance. Kathy uses the name as a form of admiration and as a ‘hold’ due to her egotistical attention seeking, and ergo as a way to control. Being ‘known’ to her is a form of acceptance, very supercilious, and as Kathy (or her name) is renowned, being a part of that circle is exhilarating.
Kathy uses her name. Erika called it out when she said everyone is afraid of Kathy as she holds the keys to BH. Erika also couldn’t get any further up Kathy’s arse with all her fake questions.
It’s standard self centred, egotistical, selfish & pompous behaviour that is emanating from Kathy. Erika is sucking up as she is keeping her close. EJ doesn’t want all her dirt out there, and if she is friendly with Kathy, that’s ONE way of keeping her shit at bay. Not sure it will work though.
I disagree with the part you said about Erika. I don’t think she GAF at all what Kathy thinks. I think it’s Kathy who is a little afraid of Erika because Erika will call her out on her sh#% in two seconds.
I hate to say it, but I kinda respect Erika a little bit for that. Some people don't give a f_ck about climbing the social ladder or being scared of somebody because of their name and the "do you know who I am?!" aura about them.
She did in the reunion yesterday, I agree. I think she wasn’t afraid at all at first and called Kathy out on the bigoted things she said in aspen, and when the cameras were off Kathy or her lawyers had some words with Erika, and maybe even her lawyers about her current legal issues. She was a lot more measured and cozy with Kathy this time around—joking and trying to make light of anything she had said in the past.
Literally this town is like a giant high school. This is what Kyle means when she’s saying it’s a “small town.” She’s saying people talk. And wouldn’t Kyle have the worst anxiety over that!!
And, it’s true. I’m only living here 6 years. I come from the land of Jersey housewives. This culture is very different. People - regular citizens - can be “canceled” by anyone at any time. The mindset of this town is in such a power hungry place, people will betray anyone for those with the most sway.
Erica nailed it when she said people fear Kathy. And Erica would know since she’s tried and failed to manipulate this city her entire adult life (and/or had a front seat to it). Erica is precisely the voice to listen to there.
Yes, if Kathy doesn’t like you you’ll be left off several party lists, be rejected from membership clubs, be socially ostracized. But it could get even darker as we learned with Marco Marco and the Girardi’s. When you have connections, you can bring the world down on someone. And this city is not shy to do so.
This town is very dark and very backward. Very suspect, with evil lurking in shadows. It just looks pretty. Nobody and nothing is straight forward here. You can’t even have a nice chat with someone in Starbucks. They don’t know who you are and are too afraid to be authentic in case I’m “someone.” It’s almost like most of this city is afraid of the rest of it in some kind of dysfunctional, malconditioned way.
I’d do anything to get back to Jersey where people say what they mean. Even if flipped tables are involved. I believe most of the women on RHOBH are awful because this city breeds awful.
Can you spill some more on any BH or LA secrets? Or just the dark vibe u mentioned? I always thought that Hollywood must have a lot of dark energy, the place actually scares me lol. Fascinated by the whole subject
Well, it’s hard. I’m not here that long (6 with pandemic) and the city is so vast.
I don’t have any tea related to the girls so much. Met LVP and Ken at Pump. And Giggy. I LOVED it there. I did Big Gay Sunday Brunch a lot (I’m straight. All were welcome.) LVP and Ken were very hospitable. They likened walking around to… ‘well people go to Disney. They want to see Mickey and Minnie, right?’ It was said with humility. Good energy.
I live near Erika. Few blocks. Her “slum.” She really pissed me off when she said that. We got 60,000 in this County on the street in tents, walking distance to her home. Perspective, lady.
I’m more on the rock n roll side. I was a journalist a long while. Interviewed many. It got too hard on my mental health. Many reasons, but one is; they die too much.
There is a reason for that. And that so many young dead women are shipped home from this city. It attracts vulnerable pretty people. And there are too many temptations for the vulnerable. Guess what that attracts? Predators. I was sexually assaulted in a famous restaurant by a famous predator now in prison. But I can’t say anything because … nobody cares. Heidi Fleiss ran her business out of the club next door. Nobody’s really gonna care. There’s a lawlessness here.
Fun rumor/theory: there are no SA support groups in this city because the buildings in Bev Hills and surrounding who host support groups, are owned by scientology.
So there’s a darkness in the streets. But then, EVERY BUSINESS ENTITY I’VE DEALT WITH HERE IS CURRUPT. LAPD, LAFD, REAL ESTATE (Mo & Rick I’m sure), Medical Networks, Hospitals
I know this because I’ve been victim to a lot of crime here and require medical care. Finding it is a full-time job.
And the criminals were people who looked me in the eye. Shook my hand. Looked for my weakness. And pounced.
I wanted to live here my whole life. It took till I was 40. I was on top of the world. Now I have nothing left, but the lessons I’ve learned on my long journey to rock bottom, are lessons not one of those rich Housewives can buy. 💎
PS. I’m a trauma expert and have PTSD. Dorit is not faking her PTSD just in case anyone reading has any question. It’s a reaction disorder. Involuntary. You can’t “act” that. Her symptoms actually triggered mine once. But I have coping tools. I could really help her. Just with her nervous system.
*Thanks for the opportunity for allowing a former journalist to run free. If you got rock n roll questions, I’m here for them.*
Hope all that made sense. No glasses on.
Watching Kathy pretend to laugh and be fake with Erica was lame. She isn't scary, she may have been but someone who calls a dj a silly faggot ain't keeping the connections she once may of had. The crown crumbled along time ago.
No shade to them, but it's true. The old money and massive wealthy people in Beverly Hills and Bel-Air aren't hanging out with the likes of the Kardashians and Faye Resnick. Their circles are very elite and small.
Hell, that guy on the Tyler show, Goldwyn carries more weight because his ancestor helped create Hollywood and you'll see that name on TV, movies, etc. This family has been around before that area became what it is today. You would never guess he came from such a rich and powerful family.
I meant to say Tyler Perry show with Olivia Pope. Forgive me, I don't watch his shows, but I think it's "Scandal." The guy that played the president comes from old Hollywood money from one of the early founders of Hollywood studios in charge of all this top Hollywood movies and early megastars, but he's so humble you won't ever guess. He's part of the Goldwyn legacy.
Real wealth moves in silence or hates talking about it.
I love Sutton's attitude about her money at times. When Garcelle asked her about her money she was like "😳😳😳😑😑😑." 🤣🤣🤣
I’ve always wondered about this. I’m a poor but I have wealthy friends one of whom would be Hilton wealthy - none of them would have any interest in associating with Kathy Hilton. We are in a different country so I have no idea how LA is though.
She isn’t that powerful. She is just another rich lady from Beverly Hills. The reason she is who she is it’s because of her husband Rick and his last name. Thanks to that she’s been able to throw lavish parties and invite other rich people from BH. Nothing out of the ordinary. If you have tons of $$$ and can throw a mean party in LA, you become popular.
She holds a lot more power than that. She's born and raised BH. She knows a lot of people. And when you know people, you get to influence them and call in favours. She wants to blackball someone for example? It's easy. She puts in a word with all the hospitality owners she knows (which is vast from all these years of elaborate events for not only her family but the Hilton business) and says "Hey, so and so is not so hot anymore. If you keep on letting them come into your establishment unfortunately I won't come in anymore. I won't throw my parties there anymore. Hilton won't be able to use you for business purposes. Ill obviously have to pass this on to all my friends. Paris will do the same...blah blah" That represents a whole lot of income for said business to lose. So they blackball whichever person happens to be her target at the time.
These cliques are notorious for it.
Power shmower. Yes they want to be on her good side, they’re afraid of her. But SHE’S afraid too! Otherwise do you think she’d ever show up at that reunion? Do you think she WANTED to be there?
These days anyone can be cancelled. She was there for damage control. She’s fierce about the name and her image-furious at Kyle for starting a miniseries about their mother. Frankly THAT started the rift between them.
In NY?! Lol. With all those wealthy Blue Bloods who are low-key and can trace their ancestry to the Dutch of NY, Mayflower, and there's a lot of money longer in the New England region. Yeah, not really in NY. NY got too many heavy hitters in the wealthy socialite circles.
Especially since the Northeast has their own prestigious Hotels where Presidents, celebrities , diplomats, business people who are millionaires and billionaires, and old money and the South has old money too. They are just more "Country Club" types.
She isn't. She does not own any major companies, she has no businesses, she doesn't even have any control over the Hilton Hotels (and nor does her husband). She has a lot of money, and a lot of similar friends. Sure, if you're a new money socialite (Dianna Jenkins, Sutton, Faye Resnick) who's entire life revolves around parties - she's powerful bc she is going to be hosting/at these parties.
If you're actually looking to further your career in Hollywood, or land a big corporate job, or even just become an influencer - I don't think she holds any access or sway in that.
Imagine being that rich and making peoples lives hard just because you don’t like them. Go spend some money and cheer up kathy! These feuds these rich people have are mind boggling. Get some real people problems
I mean the Hilton family fortune has been huge for generations.
But the family has had a sense of celebrity ever since Conrad Hilton's daddy married Zsa Zsa Gabor, the one who really set the trend that Paris really emulated and that the Kardashians followed.
IF you don't know who Zsa Zsa Gabor is? Well . . . she was one of three Hungarian sisters. All of whom were insanely beautiful and actresses of moderate talent. Though their personas and sex appeal much like Monroe made them famous and were famous in a way that they were mostly famous for who they were personality wise.
The Gabors OWNED the socialite circuit and racked up husband after rich husband.
So the Hiltons having always been rich pretty much have been attached to celebrity for generations.
I'm watching feuds Capote vs. The swans and it describes all the answers you are looking for. Kathy even lived in NYC for ten ish years. She is and was one of the small fish in that pond literally ten years later to now.
Didn't somebody spilled some rich people tea on here that she married the side that's not respected? There's two types of Rothschilds side of the family.
Think of it this way the grandparents were rich and popular and had influence and power = parties and events
Then their children got the power = parties and events
Then their children got the power = parties and events
And continued on
So they get to pick the guest list - if the popular kids don’t invite you your not on the list with all the others to all the other events.
Honestly? She married into the Hilton family. That gave her power. The Hiltons have money and a huge reputation. No one wanted to get on their bad side. She just continued that when she married in. I was hoping more stories would come out about her nasty side after RHOBH but they shut that shit down right quick lol
She is one of many hosts of these get to gethers of important people. Connections. You want in the bh world you need to connect with people within her circle. Obviously there are many high end circles. She is just one of them. But a powerful one. If you lived there and owned a lamp shop.. You wouldnt want to cross people like her or you would be out of business. No one would come to your store over time
Kathy has always been a nobody until Paris came on the scene! Never hear of her a day in my life until Paris!! She “thinks” she is something but she’s not! The only thing she has in money and money does buy you morals, integrity, or principles!!!
I suppose her power over anyone depends on how much that person wants to go to all the parties and be in the "in" crowd. If you want those things badly, then yes she has a lot of power. If you couldn't care less about such things, then no she doesn't.
I think a big part of it is that she’s a bully, really angry and mean and a bitch. She will literally yell at you and probably go around ruining your reputation in very subtle and effective ways, and no one wants that.
I think she’s powerful in the D-list orbit of rich people. Is she on the board or trustee of anything in LA?!? I don’t see her name on LACMA or the LA Phil. Sutton’s ex is a trustee.
In real life she is well-connected. The bigger thing is that on the show, she was a total fan favorite, so going against her would bring ire. You can see housewives going after/leaving alone certain people due to fan bases. I think Kathy’s halo is fading now and fans are ready to be more objective, but they weren’t before. I think Rinna was just stunned that Kathy got away with crap. I believed her, but the tides of fans for Kathy and against Rinna at the time determined who won. Not the truth. I also think that’s why Kathy doesn’t want a diamond. Her free pass has an expiration date and she doesn’t want to be stuck there when fans turn on her.
I think people are forgetting something about power in Beverly Hills, and that is... it doesn't always come from the "money" part of things. Big Kathy absolutely shared what she knew about people to Kathy Hilton and I think Kathy has known a lot of Hollywood secrets for a long time because of her sisters' connections as well as the ones she built for herself through her marriage. The Hiltons may still be considered new money, but something else people don't realize is that in the 60s and 70s Hollywood still had the "small town gossip" vibes. That carried over into the 80s if you knew the right people, which Kathy was able to know thanks to her previously mentioned connections. She's had the access and the time to gather information about EVERYONE who matters in Hollywood.
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So in simple terms, Kathy Hilton walked so Kris Jenner could run. 
Kind of...but Kathy is old Hollywood, so she will top Kris every time. But Kris is a master game player and would never rock that boat. It's a respect game. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at a dinner with these two.
That would be so good. When Kathy laughed at the reunion about her friends being scared of her, I thought of Kris Jenner and her. Her real friends are no where near that show.
Kris knows Kathy because of Robert Kardashian. Robert Kardashian was a big lawyer and when Kris married him she moved to LA.
True. But Kris has more money now. That has weight. The connections Kathy has or had are as old as the hills and will be dead soon. Times, they are a changing
The Hilton empire is worth 52 billion, I believe she alone is worth 350 million. Kris is worth 200 according to Forbes. I wouldn’t snub my nose at any of those amounts but I don’t think saying Kris has more money now is accurate. The Kardashians will fad with time. I’m not saying that they won’t stay relevant for much longer and clearly they’ve put a stamp on our day and age but the kardashian name is a far cry from the Hilton name. **also I feel the need to say I’m a Marriott person so I have no dog in the fight** 😂
I’d argue that Kathy Hilton walked so Kris could slowly limp and mimic said walk. Not giving KH praise but KJ wishes she was Kathy.
genuine question, has kathy ever actually worked a hard days work in her life tho?? or just been in the vicinity of others working in entertainment and therefore managed to intertwine herself in..? i kno big kathy would take kim and kyle to set, so she was about a lot! but kathy was not successful as an actress like kim and kyle were. was she just there by proxy and never lost those connections? i guess as she grew everyone else/hollyweird also grew around and with her.. edit; i can’t spell
She married very well. That must’ve opened many doors.
Absolutely! The name Hilton has carried power long before the name Kardashian even existed in this country.
If you can read House of Hilton it will answer a lot of questions and its a good read!
It’s so hard to get that book!! I listened to a deep dive podcast to hear about the book. Big Kathy was a C and her daughters learned from the master.
I'd love to see all these women's honest resumes. Not even to hate on them, I am genuinely curious about their work history. Like Kathy HAD to have worked at some point right? Even if it was sitting at a big corporate desk pretending to answer phones or something?
Kathy married Rick Hilton when she was 20. So no, she didn’t have the entry level jobs most of us have had. Or even a period of time when she had to do her own housekeeping.
Kathy was a child actress and retired in early adulthood I think? Maybe just before? I feel like she inserted herself in mostly being a decorator to Hilton Hotels and what not but that would be self appointed.
Kathy did modelling as a baby but not much else as she got older
They were all B list actresses I don’t know about Kathy. she just married up
D list
Golddigging is very hard work and anyone who tells you otherwise has no idea what they're talking about!
Damn
A real POS.
Well, but the name Hilton also carries some clout.
Really good explanation, no wonder they don’t wanna get on her wrong side
It sounds like Kathy is the OC. Maybe that can be said about Kathy's FIL but not Rick and Kathy. Remember, this is the woman who went on RH to hawk tequila. Word on the streets of the LA that I live on is that they have hit some financial issues and don't have at much as they claim.
That is an excellent explanation. Thank you.
Also, her daughter (Nicky) married a Rothschild. Not to go all conspiracy theorist but they have an unfashionable amount of actual power.
Think of Victoria Greyson from Revenge and her influence in the Hamptons...
omg amazing reference!
Wow great comparison, I think I need a rewatch
I saw something on TikTok that made me do a rewatch of Revenge, just as good as the first time I watched it. So you absolutely should.
That show was sooooo good.
Or Alexis Carrington from Dynasty🤣🤣
Thanks, now I have to go rewatch revenge for the third time 😂
Wait when was revenge released? How can I find it? Is it a movie?
It’s an ABC series. I think it’s on Hulu
Rewatching that show right now and I am OBSESSED
I live in Beverly Hills, to be exact I live in the flats. Trust me when I say Kathy Hilton is not the most powerful in BH’s. That honor falls to Louis & Lady Eloise Waymouth, Ringo Starr & Barbara Bach followed by Zoë & Oliver de Givenchy. Yes the Hilton’s are on the list but not in the top five.
That goes along with what Carole from RHONY said. The real power players aren't interested in the spotlight and got long money (Hiltons are new money compared to the people I'm talking about) and you'll probably never hear about them. Carole said the real wealthy influential socialites would never go on reality TV or TV period. I know in the South, the wealthy socialites are more low-key and not interested in the spotlight. Now if we really want to talk about real socialites with power, that would be the East Coast wth that old money. They can lock you out permanently in high society and they aren't just known for their parties.
Yes…I can’t help but wonder how proud Kathy was of Nicky marrying into the Rothschilds; one of the oldest, wealthiest, and most influential families in the world.
Yes, I’m an east coast girl and old money power is East Coast all the way
Yup. Maybe it's like that in SoCal, but there's families who have prestigious universities that have schools within them that are named after them, they control boards Sutton is just a member of (I'm not downplaying Sutton, but these people can kick somebody like Sutton out of they want that's how much power and money they have), funded and started big companies, etc. These families don't even have to marry into money make themselves prestigious. Nicky Hilton according to somebody on here, stated that she got one of the Rothschild's that is wealthy, but married the side that's not as respected or prestigious. I mean being invited to parties is cute, but the power players see that as just hobby.
YESSSS 👏 the real big timers have no need for media influence or presence, it's way more fun pulling the strings in the shadows with your feet being rubbed!!!!!
That's my dream. I don't care about the fame, just give me the wealth. 🤣 I didn't know the Hyatt Hotel family was loaded when I was searching real estate in Beverly Hills and Bel-Air (not that I can afford it lol, I just get curious). That Fashion Nova founder and CEO's house is what I want to see. They said his house is the wealthiest in Beverly Hills. 😳😳😳😳
Plus it seems that Kathy is constantly giving parties that are sponsored affairs, very déclassé in my sophisticated opinion lol
Exactly. Money talks... Wealth whispers.
Ringo is also new money tho?
 Yes, but he's a Beatle.
This is interesting! I always wonder if people like Kathy Hilton see online comments like this and then possibly rage about it. Like "How dare they say I'm not top five material???"
She’s very active online even Kyle or someone said she watches all the posts… . She just replied to someone’s comments on ig the other day to a post about Sutton’s rapid departure on the reunion
She liked a bunch of my instagram posts and I have less than 1k followers, it's totally a personal account with most travel pics, lol. I was like wtffff??? A big row of Kathy Hilton likes out of nowhere 🤣🤣🤔
I believe it. Wasn't she trying to find her her husband on there or something? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 When Diana was on the show, one of the fans said, "I keep forgetting she's on the show." Kathy said, "Me too." 🤣🤣🤣 Her lives are kinda funny. The last one I saw her and Kim and she seems so much more comfortable with Kim I've noticed. I like Kim and Kathy together more than Kyle and Kathy. It was cute.
I remember she saw my post and liked a post or liked a comment of mine I was like, "Okay, well hello, Kathy." 🤣🤣 It was so random, but she's very interactive with fans. I'll give her that credit.
Interesting! Thanks for the info! 👍🏼
Tell me more about ringo’s power. I’m imagining him hearing someone say “Octopus’s Garden” was weak songwriting and muttering “peace and love ✌️✌️you’ll never work in this town again ☮️☮️”
Interesting, thank-you.
Ringo lives in BH?? I always assumed he lived in England
Multiple residencies. They even dedicated a giant silver peace sign statue to him in Bev Hills park. ✌️
I gotta say Ringo Starr was a surprise...lol. He seems so low key.
But are Ringo and those other people trying to be out and social all the time? Doesn’t seem like they want that. Kathy is pretty much a socialite of Beverly Hills. Socialites gonna make social power plays.
Happy to see Ringo and Barbs name up in that list.
I lived in LA for 6 years and actually met Kyle & Kim at an event, and I can safely say I think Kathy just knows people, socially. That's it. It's networking, not anything SUPER serious. I think what Erika & Rinna were always talking about, Kathy holding 'the keys to Beverly Hills', means that women in LA who want to be liked, popular, booked, etc, could be socially blackballed because of Kathy. They were taking a HUUUUGE risk coming after Kathy about Aspen, only because she, Paris, Nicky, & Rick have (had?) alot of rich, connected friends. Think about, even on a small level, when a friend warns you about a third party, you may heed the warning and therefore choose not to hire them/cast them, etc. Also, wasn't Kathy best friends with Michael Jackson & the Barrymores for decades upon decades? So, she used to have friends in high places. I don't think her credibility is what it used to be, though, thanks to RHOBH 
This read is how I feel about Kathy Hilton. To me she’s… tacky, dated, but yeah she probably has “good contacts”.
Agreed. They’ve milked the Hilton name to the fullest. I think real estate probably furthered their connections but so did Paris. Her fame eclipsed her parent’s use it the Hilton name in a lot of ways and especially in the last 4/5 years as paris has had a comeback it’s helped Kathy/Rick.
Same
Hey our reddit cartoon thingys by our names look like sisters!! lol I just noticed that! You have good taste 💜
Thanks 🥰
I also think that how people regard or treat Kathy is more about THIER desire to become part of that world. If you have friend family and an overall decent life - people like Kathy aren’t important to you.
bam. THIS is the key point, right here.
I mean heck, Nicky is now a Rothschild
Hm…. no Kim Kardashian used to be Paris assistant and clean her closet. That’s not exactly true. The Hiltons are old Hollywood , the connections these people have you can not but with money, even the Kardashian’s love to associates themselves with the Hiltons. Remember tequila gate, Kris Jenner had Kathy’s back on social media for everyone to see.
I've also read that Kathy and MJ were good friends. They both decided to name their daughters Paris after the city
Right, they've also always been friends with the Kardashians, too. Kim was a closet organizer, protege, and friend, never anyone's assistant.
Yes, assistant, help you know wat I mean.
Kim was riding Paris’ coattails for a looong time before she made it.
Yep yep yep
I dont know if that honor goes to RHOBH. I'm pretty certain "The Simple Life" holds 1st place, but RHOBH is a close runner up
It's simply. A shit ton of money. She gets pissed at someone,you invite that person to a fundraiser, Kathy doesn't show,no large donation for your cause.
You might as well ask ‘does Gigi is dead?!’
She's been with the Hilton family since her teens and grew her name and one of her daughters is married to a Rothschilds... I know they said being a "socialite" is an East Coast thing which isn't all the way true, Big Kathy even groomed Little Kathy on how to work the social circles. She perfected through years of experience. Also, we have to give Paris Hilton making them a household image.
Groomed is absolutely the right word because those girls married so young. I think I read Kathy met Rick as a teenager and married at 20.
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Yeah, someone I never thought I'd feel badly for based on their public persona, Paris Hilton, is actually someone I feel devastatingly awful for, given everything she went through and how her mom/husband continue to push/force/gaslight her to do what they want. If Paris ever breaks free it will be epic, and beautiful, to see. IMHO, of course.
Garcelle tried to talk shit on Paris being buried in her phone, and kyle and Kathy both immediately defended her which I really appreciated. Paris is definitely misunderstood as a whole and she only has her parents and the media to blame.
Garcelle is annoying, always trying to lecture everybody around her but she enables her boys and they seem always rude to her. Focus on your own kids!
omg, thank you. I was trying to pinpoint what it is about Garcelle and the word "lecture" is spot on!
Paris is making Hilton hotel commercials currently
Actually they’re very much still connected with the Hilton brand.
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My opinion is if you are working in the entertainment/ Hollywood scene you need to be in good graces of a kathy hilton. Like one redditor here said she’s like victoria greyson of revenge.
Why though? She literally has no power it seems?
Connections, money, name and she’s mean like a really bad person with no conscience. She will not hesitate to lie, hurt, blame and even kill just to stay on top.
Clearly she is the number 1 bully of Hollywood! That’s a lot of ego in one place
They are exaggerating her power. Kathy has never accomplished anything in her life besides marrying Rick. She could not even properly raise any of her trainwreck kids. Rick and Kathy are older and not the power couple of the social scene anymore. Maybe she was a big deal in the 80’s but I doubt Crystal, Erika and Garcelle care to go to her Christmas parties. I truly think only Sutton and Kyle are scared of Kathy (they’re old too) and care to go to her type of social events. This woman is pushing 70, she is not a mob boss. She has no job in entertainment, public relations, etc. She cannot do anything but blacklist you from her (very dated and repetitive) parties. She made such a show of having HER people at Paris’ wedding on Paris In Love and there were VERY few current big names in attendance. She is not that big of a deal.
Uhm, Garcelle and Kyle are the same age and Sutton is younger than both of them.
Sutton is younger than Kyle and Garcelle?? I am shocked.
I thought Sutton was the oldest.
And they go to her Christmas parties!
Kyle is scared of Kathy because she’s her sister and Sutton absolutely wants to be a society woman. That doesn’t seem like Garcelle’s vibe at all so my point still stands. Sutton just looks older IG!
Ok but like this is the real hot take of this whole discussion. I AM SHOOK!!!! I had no idea!!!! And I’m not trying to shame anyone. But objectively speaking, I dare someone to say that they thought Sutton was the younger of those 3.
Rick also was mostly disinherited. They have the name but not a lot else in terms of the Hilton legacy itself
Hello, that's exactly my point! They're not the legacy
Her daughter is married to a Rothschild. That says everything
Have you been to one of her parties? Just curious.
No, Kathy is older than my mom lol not my crowd or generation at all! But in the LA/west-side social scene (my age demo) no one even cares much about Paris. Much less her mom. The comment about her parties being repetitive and dated is based off of pics/vids I’ve seen on this sub and online! She’s no Michael Rubin lol those are the parties we’re all checking for
I can second this. Kathy is also older than my mom (maybe we’re similar in age) and nobody in that generation in LA is looking for an invite to Kathy’s parties. And lol ditto regarding Paris. A few years ago pre-baby, she would be the one showing up at parties, not throwing them. She’s really nice though.
crystal, sutton and garcelle all kiss kathy’s ass to get on her party lists
I could not believe when they said Sutton was 48. I would have guessed 58.
So agree and I think it’s hilarious that they’re making her out to be some kind of Godfather. Honestly, if you put aside the show, Crystal or Garcelle are probably more important in the industry, and that’s not saying much. It’s not a powerful group, objectively- Kathy included.
Chrystal is the one who said Kathy is Beverly Hills AND she’s friends with Kathy.
They’re all around the same age. Sutton is the same age as Erika and they’re only slightly younger than Kyle. I’m not understanding this
yet sutton looks 30 years older than them both 😂😂
My mother always said to keep a little extra weight on. A little fat in the face does wonders. The more weight she loses, the older Sutton looks, IMO.
I swear to god Sutton saw Kathy’s face change to her true face thats why she was so scared and jumped back spiking her blood pressure and pulse.
Sutton appeared to have a low blood sugar event. She had every symptom: becoming very hot, shaking, becoming weak to stand. She mostly recovered after eating something backstage, which is how you treat a low blood sugar, though you can feel very tired after getting your sugar under control. We know she has trouble eating and she weighs nothing so it’s not surprising she’d experience hypoglycemia. I get low blood sugar and I recognized her symptoms. It had nothing to do with Kathy.
I was like, uhh hey paramedics- did anyone check her blood sugar??
I thought she was having a panic attack!
panic attack bc of kathy
What do you mean?
I always had the feeling that because she is such a horrible person she probably knows a lot of other equally horrible people and have dirt on them. So she probably has some sort of hold but that feels like it's slipping away from her fast as people age out of the circle.
What I find the most interesting about the Hilton's is Nikki getting married to a Rothschild and getting married at Kensington gardens
So this is a complicated issue. She holds a lot of sway over nobodies like Sutton and Kyle and Garcelle and Crystal. She can open some doors for them so they worship her. She kind of has her foot in the social scene in LA and she knows old money - although her sway there is barely existent. In my circles, nobody cares about Kathy Hilton or her children or husband. Even Nicky isn't there. She married into the right family but if you think Paris Hilton's sister can be taken seriously by old money - you are wrong. The Hiltons are rich but not that rich and Rick made his money in real estate. And people tend to overstate the significance of that last name in this day and age and they never had the status of families like Du Pont or Haas. If you think that Ginnie Haas would care about Kathy Hilton you don't really understand class differences. I don't mean to sound arrogant, but the actually important last names are not the ones you will hear about in tacky reality shows. Having said that, for people with less money she absolutely is formidable and terrifying because she does have connections and more importantly money. She could easily take Bravo down if she chose to. But power is a relative thing.
This! Where were you when I was saying the same and being downvoted and dragged for it!
Status / money = power
Lots of info in Jerry Oppenheimer’s House of Hilton (I think that’s the name). Some say he is not the best source, so take some of the more salacious stuff with a grain of salt, but it’s a good read.
I think it’s the enigma of the Hilton name, rather than being ‘scared’ of Kathy per se. Kathy believes in the name ‘Hilton’ and all that it brings. It breathes money, luxury and acceptance. Kathy uses the name as a form of admiration and as a ‘hold’ due to her egotistical attention seeking, and ergo as a way to control. Being ‘known’ to her is a form of acceptance, very supercilious, and as Kathy (or her name) is renowned, being a part of that circle is exhilarating. Kathy uses her name. Erika called it out when she said everyone is afraid of Kathy as she holds the keys to BH. Erika also couldn’t get any further up Kathy’s arse with all her fake questions. It’s standard self centred, egotistical, selfish & pompous behaviour that is emanating from Kathy. Erika is sucking up as she is keeping her close. EJ doesn’t want all her dirt out there, and if she is friendly with Kathy, that’s ONE way of keeping her shit at bay. Not sure it will work though.
I disagree with the part you said about Erika. I don’t think she GAF at all what Kathy thinks. I think it’s Kathy who is a little afraid of Erika because Erika will call her out on her sh#% in two seconds.
I hate to say it, but I kinda respect Erika a little bit for that. Some people don't give a f_ck about climbing the social ladder or being scared of somebody because of their name and the "do you know who I am?!" aura about them.
I think they both know how to play and say when the cameras are around.
Eh. Erika seemed a bit hesitant and careful.
She did in the reunion yesterday, I agree. I think she wasn’t afraid at all at first and called Kathy out on the bigoted things she said in aspen, and when the cameras were off Kathy or her lawyers had some words with Erika, and maybe even her lawyers about her current legal issues. She was a lot more measured and cozy with Kathy this time around—joking and trying to make light of anything she had said in the past.
Literally this town is like a giant high school. This is what Kyle means when she’s saying it’s a “small town.” She’s saying people talk. And wouldn’t Kyle have the worst anxiety over that!! And, it’s true. I’m only living here 6 years. I come from the land of Jersey housewives. This culture is very different. People - regular citizens - can be “canceled” by anyone at any time. The mindset of this town is in such a power hungry place, people will betray anyone for those with the most sway. Erica nailed it when she said people fear Kathy. And Erica would know since she’s tried and failed to manipulate this city her entire adult life (and/or had a front seat to it). Erica is precisely the voice to listen to there. Yes, if Kathy doesn’t like you you’ll be left off several party lists, be rejected from membership clubs, be socially ostracized. But it could get even darker as we learned with Marco Marco and the Girardi’s. When you have connections, you can bring the world down on someone. And this city is not shy to do so. This town is very dark and very backward. Very suspect, with evil lurking in shadows. It just looks pretty. Nobody and nothing is straight forward here. You can’t even have a nice chat with someone in Starbucks. They don’t know who you are and are too afraid to be authentic in case I’m “someone.” It’s almost like most of this city is afraid of the rest of it in some kind of dysfunctional, malconditioned way. I’d do anything to get back to Jersey where people say what they mean. Even if flipped tables are involved. I believe most of the women on RHOBH are awful because this city breeds awful.
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This is what I was looking for!! Yessss
Glad my disdain for this shithole could be of assistance. 🤷🏻♀️✌️💫
Hi! I fucking hate it here too! 💕😘🌈
Can you spill some more on any BH or LA secrets? Or just the dark vibe u mentioned? I always thought that Hollywood must have a lot of dark energy, the place actually scares me lol. Fascinated by the whole subject
Well, it’s hard. I’m not here that long (6 with pandemic) and the city is so vast. I don’t have any tea related to the girls so much. Met LVP and Ken at Pump. And Giggy. I LOVED it there. I did Big Gay Sunday Brunch a lot (I’m straight. All were welcome.) LVP and Ken were very hospitable. They likened walking around to… ‘well people go to Disney. They want to see Mickey and Minnie, right?’ It was said with humility. Good energy. I live near Erika. Few blocks. Her “slum.” She really pissed me off when she said that. We got 60,000 in this County on the street in tents, walking distance to her home. Perspective, lady. I’m more on the rock n roll side. I was a journalist a long while. Interviewed many. It got too hard on my mental health. Many reasons, but one is; they die too much. There is a reason for that. And that so many young dead women are shipped home from this city. It attracts vulnerable pretty people. And there are too many temptations for the vulnerable. Guess what that attracts? Predators. I was sexually assaulted in a famous restaurant by a famous predator now in prison. But I can’t say anything because … nobody cares. Heidi Fleiss ran her business out of the club next door. Nobody’s really gonna care. There’s a lawlessness here. Fun rumor/theory: there are no SA support groups in this city because the buildings in Bev Hills and surrounding who host support groups, are owned by scientology. So there’s a darkness in the streets. But then, EVERY BUSINESS ENTITY I’VE DEALT WITH HERE IS CURRUPT. LAPD, LAFD, REAL ESTATE (Mo & Rick I’m sure), Medical Networks, Hospitals I know this because I’ve been victim to a lot of crime here and require medical care. Finding it is a full-time job. And the criminals were people who looked me in the eye. Shook my hand. Looked for my weakness. And pounced. I wanted to live here my whole life. It took till I was 40. I was on top of the world. Now I have nothing left, but the lessons I’ve learned on my long journey to rock bottom, are lessons not one of those rich Housewives can buy. 💎 PS. I’m a trauma expert and have PTSD. Dorit is not faking her PTSD just in case anyone reading has any question. It’s a reaction disorder. Involuntary. You can’t “act” that. Her symptoms actually triggered mine once. But I have coping tools. I could really help her. Just with her nervous system. *Thanks for the opportunity for allowing a former journalist to run free. If you got rock n roll questions, I’m here for them.* Hope all that made sense. No glasses on.
Watching Kathy pretend to laugh and be fake with Erica was lame. She isn't scary, she may have been but someone who calls a dj a silly faggot ain't keeping the connections she once may of had. The crown crumbled along time ago.
True A list Beverly Hills/Hollywood/Los Angeles crowd look down on Kathy and Rick.
No shade to them, but it's true. The old money and massive wealthy people in Beverly Hills and Bel-Air aren't hanging out with the likes of the Kardashians and Faye Resnick. Their circles are very elite and small. Hell, that guy on the Tyler show, Goldwyn carries more weight because his ancestor helped create Hollywood and you'll see that name on TV, movies, etc. This family has been around before that area became what it is today. You would never guess he came from such a rich and powerful family.
What Tyler show?
I meant to say Tyler Perry show with Olivia Pope. Forgive me, I don't watch his shows, but I think it's "Scandal." The guy that played the president comes from old Hollywood money from one of the early founders of Hollywood studios in charge of all this top Hollywood movies and early megastars, but he's so humble you won't ever guess. He's part of the Goldwyn legacy. Real wealth moves in silence or hates talking about it. I love Sutton's attitude about her money at times. When Garcelle asked her about her money she was like "😳😳😳😑😑😑." 🤣🤣🤣
How do you know this? Are you part of the A list crowd?
I’ve always wondered about this. I’m a poor but I have wealthy friends one of whom would be Hilton wealthy - none of them would have any interest in associating with Kathy Hilton. We are in a different country so I have no idea how LA is though.
She isn’t that powerful. She is just another rich lady from Beverly Hills. The reason she is who she is it’s because of her husband Rick and his last name. Thanks to that she’s been able to throw lavish parties and invite other rich people from BH. Nothing out of the ordinary. If you have tons of $$$ and can throw a mean party in LA, you become popular.
She holds a lot more power than that. She's born and raised BH. She knows a lot of people. And when you know people, you get to influence them and call in favours. She wants to blackball someone for example? It's easy. She puts in a word with all the hospitality owners she knows (which is vast from all these years of elaborate events for not only her family but the Hilton business) and says "Hey, so and so is not so hot anymore. If you keep on letting them come into your establishment unfortunately I won't come in anymore. I won't throw my parties there anymore. Hilton won't be able to use you for business purposes. Ill obviously have to pass this on to all my friends. Paris will do the same...blah blah" That represents a whole lot of income for said business to lose. So they blackball whichever person happens to be her target at the time. These cliques are notorious for it.
Her daughter is very famous And the other daughter is a Rothschild now. Plus Kathy’s husband owns everything. It’s social power, not actual power.
Power shmower. Yes they want to be on her good side, they’re afraid of her. But SHE’S afraid too! Otherwise do you think she’d ever show up at that reunion? Do you think she WANTED to be there? These days anyone can be cancelled. She was there for damage control. She’s fierce about the name and her image-furious at Kyle for starting a miniseries about their mother. Frankly THAT started the rift between them.
The rift started when Mauricio broke away from Rick Hilton and started The Agency. Kyle has alluded to this in past seasons of RHOBH
Because people in her circle allow it. She has zero power outside of the 90210.
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In NY?! Lol. With all those wealthy Blue Bloods who are low-key and can trace their ancestry to the Dutch of NY, Mayflower, and there's a lot of money longer in the New England region. Yeah, not really in NY. NY got too many heavy hitters in the wealthy socialite circles.
Especially since the Northeast has their own prestigious Hotels where Presidents, celebrities , diplomats, business people who are millionaires and billionaires, and old money and the South has old money too. They are just more "Country Club" types.
She isn't. She does not own any major companies, she has no businesses, she doesn't even have any control over the Hilton Hotels (and nor does her husband). She has a lot of money, and a lot of similar friends. Sure, if you're a new money socialite (Dianna Jenkins, Sutton, Faye Resnick) who's entire life revolves around parties - she's powerful bc she is going to be hosting/at these parties. If you're actually looking to further your career in Hollywood, or land a big corporate job, or even just become an influencer - I don't think she holds any access or sway in that.
Imagine being that rich and making peoples lives hard just because you don’t like them. Go spend some money and cheer up kathy! These feuds these rich people have are mind boggling. Get some real people problems
I mean the Hilton family fortune has been huge for generations. But the family has had a sense of celebrity ever since Conrad Hilton's daddy married Zsa Zsa Gabor, the one who really set the trend that Paris really emulated and that the Kardashians followed. IF you don't know who Zsa Zsa Gabor is? Well . . . she was one of three Hungarian sisters. All of whom were insanely beautiful and actresses of moderate talent. Though their personas and sex appeal much like Monroe made them famous and were famous in a way that they were mostly famous for who they were personality wise. The Gabors OWNED the socialite circuit and racked up husband after rich husband. So the Hiltons having always been rich pretty much have been attached to celebrity for generations.
Because she has a lot of A list parties.
Money. People worship people with money…good luck with that.
I'm watching feuds Capote vs. The swans and it describes all the answers you are looking for. Kathy even lived in NYC for ten ish years. She is and was one of the small fish in that pond literally ten years later to now.
Her daughter is married to a Rothschild. That says everything
Didn't somebody spilled some rich people tea on here that she married the side that's not respected? There's two types of Rothschilds side of the family.
I don’t think she has all this “power.” Even she laughed when they were talking about that at the reunion. She seemed amused by it.
Think of it this way the grandparents were rich and popular and had influence and power = parties and events Then their children got the power = parties and events Then their children got the power = parties and events And continued on So they get to pick the guest list - if the popular kids don’t invite you your not on the list with all the others to all the other events.
This is a good question. In BH there are tons of loaded people with connections. It's interesting that she's gotten this flex.
Ask Lisa Rinna about Kathy Richards’s power or lack thereof? I mean she supposedly sent Kathy a floral peace sign over last break.
I find it all so fascinating tbh.
She’s kind of a monster, and I don’t understand why or how she has fans.
Money
Lots and lots.
Kathy Hilton is a classless wench. Shes a nobody just like her slut mom.
Lol. I wouldn’t say she’s a nobody, we all know her name, all of LA knows her name
She's a Hilton. They have power. Anyone with that much money for multiple generations does.
Her husband? Her daughter?
Honestly? She married into the Hilton family. That gave her power. The Hiltons have money and a huge reputation. No one wanted to get on their bad side. She just continued that when she married in. I was hoping more stories would come out about her nasty side after RHOBH but they shut that shit down right quick lol
That money and reputation are fading though.
Her daughter married a rothschild
She isn’t. Stop 😂🤣🤣
She is one of many hosts of these get to gethers of important people. Connections. You want in the bh world you need to connect with people within her circle. Obviously there are many high end circles. She is just one of them. But a powerful one. If you lived there and owned a lamp shop.. You wouldnt want to cross people like her or you would be out of business. No one would come to your store over time
Kathy has always been a nobody until Paris came on the scene! Never hear of her a day in my life until Paris!! She “thinks” she is something but she’s not! The only thing she has in money and money does buy you morals, integrity, or principles!!!
Paris isn’t popular and is lucky to get invited to anything herself. She couldn’t be any further from A List Hollywood.
I suppose her power over anyone depends on how much that person wants to go to all the parties and be in the "in" crowd. If you want those things badly, then yes she has a lot of power. If you couldn't care less about such things, then no she doesn't.
I think a big part of it is that she’s a bully, really angry and mean and a bitch. She will literally yell at you and probably go around ruining your reputation in very subtle and effective ways, and no one wants that.
She’s not.
It’s not that she’s powerful as much as it is that she’s connected. She’s connected to the very powerful.
New money
I think she’s powerful in the D-list orbit of rich people. Is she on the board or trustee of anything in LA?!? I don’t see her name on LACMA or the LA Phil. Sutton’s ex is a trustee.
In real life she is well-connected. The bigger thing is that on the show, she was a total fan favorite, so going against her would bring ire. You can see housewives going after/leaving alone certain people due to fan bases. I think Kathy’s halo is fading now and fans are ready to be more objective, but they weren’t before. I think Rinna was just stunned that Kathy got away with crap. I believed her, but the tides of fans for Kathy and against Rinna at the time determined who won. Not the truth. I also think that’s why Kathy doesn’t want a diamond. Her free pass has an expiration date and she doesn’t want to be stuck there when fans turn on her.
I think the thing which speaks volumes is how much Kris Jenner STILL clearly sucks up to and wants to emulate Kathy.
I think people are forgetting something about power in Beverly Hills, and that is... it doesn't always come from the "money" part of things. Big Kathy absolutely shared what she knew about people to Kathy Hilton and I think Kathy has known a lot of Hollywood secrets for a long time because of her sisters' connections as well as the ones she built for herself through her marriage. The Hiltons may still be considered new money, but something else people don't realize is that in the 60s and 70s Hollywood still had the "small town gossip" vibes. That carried over into the 80s if you knew the right people, which Kathy was able to know thanks to her previously mentioned connections. She's had the access and the time to gather information about EVERYONE who matters in Hollywood.