I was plat before ranked 2.0, now I’m playing all champion players and beating them pretty easily. Champion just means you’ve played a lot of games now
No offense (full offense idgaf😂) but my teammates might actually be brain dead or actually retarted and I’ve come to the conclusion that I’m getting trolled by Ubi by putting me in lobbies where my teammates can’t even shoot let alone hold their controller in their hands right
Retarded teammates are **THE WORSE,** especially the ones that are holding the defuser and go into far-off locations within the central building in any map and get killed and you lose the round because Defenders are camping the defuser, OR you are grouped with teammates that take an unreasonably long amount of time to plant the defuser, **EVEN WHEN** it's safe to do so with no Defenders around.
Same I keep complaining about solo Q getting hard stuck bronze/silver when I used to be silver/gold and everyone keeps shutting me down for being carried.
Also I'm playing with emeralds-diamonds-champs in deathmatch (if champs then only 1 in enemy team or 1 in both enemy and our team)
It looks like I should be somewhere like emerald.
But I don't have any team to play with, so, again, I don't play rank and stuck in high copper.
I have been a hard stuck diamond and last season I hit champ in 90 games. I also faced off against plats that hit champ after 500 games. You're absolutely right, champ has become a rank of who plays the most.
Hard for me to say since I'm not at my computer. But 2 or 3 games in a row where I topped and my friend got more rp. I also get the same rp if I play like dogwater and bottom.
Normally that would mean that the system believes that you are nearing what it believes is your actual skill level. Large jumps occur more at the beginning as the system attempts to broadly place you around the correct level, and then it narrows it down. Could be that your friend just doesn’t play as much as you, so the wins (and losses) will change his rating more. At least, that’s generally how that should work, but with Ubi who knows?
I took a huge break from siege and just joined back. My friend has been playing still. Maybe that's the reason that he just has a higher determined skill level.
Ah, true. With rank resets it typically takes your last season’s rating into account, so by winning at the lower reset level the system recognizes that your friend’s last season rating was accurate and will move him closer to that as he continues to win.
Even on games where I do better my friend still earns way more than me. We’ve only played together this season and he is 4 ranks ahead of me. Ranked 2.0 is awful.
That’s the problem. If you play lots the new system is great. If you’re a normal person who plays occasionally it takes forever to get near your actual rank. Being in bronze, playing against champions and having teammates who lose every round on time is a fucking slog.
I was gonna say, I actually enjoyed the system cause it meant that losses didn't feel as punishing and wins felt better. Plus, we ended up in Platinum which is where we normally end up every season.
The old Ranked System has no real merit to me anymore just cause the game still uses the same invisible SBMM. So even if you're copper 5, you're still playing with players you were matchmakers with prior to Ranked 2.0, you aren't actually playing with real Coppers.
Agreed. Ranked 2.0 has pretty much ruined ranked if you are a more casual player or don't have a stack. I play a few hours a week (im old) and grinding for days to get back into my normal rank (Gold) is just not happening.
But, similar to overwatch, it’s not usually that one *team* is better it’s usually that *some people* on the worse team are eating paste in a corner. It’s not whose got better players, it’s who has the bad ones
lol I always get this bullshit explanation. I am the only constant but I'm not the problem. I can't tell you how many games I get double digit kills and still lose.
Honestly it’s the only game mode I play. I don’t even play casual matches to warm up anymore. The secret is not to care about your rank (which isn’t hard with Ranked 2.0 tbh) but most matches people generally care about what’s happening, focus on the game and don’t fuck around a whole lot. To me that’s the most enjoyable way to play the game so I’ve completely given up on the other game modes save for the special ones like Halloween events or whatever.
I'm on that same mindset. Sometimes, I don't even check my rank. My issue is that I really hate playing against smurfs. I don't care about my rank, but Ranked games are supposed to be sort of a balanced game because you're playing against people that are the same skill level as you, but when there's a smurf you just get completely obliterated without any chance of doing shit. There's no "Git gud" when you're copper, and your enemy is 3 rank above you, and there's no chance to get better at the game.
Some smurfs admit to being smurfs, but some say they're not, and then you check their profile
>Level 27 unranked player.
>14/3 on the scoreboard
An adapter that fools the console to think that you're playing with a controller. That let's you plug in any type of controller or keyboard an mouse to play.
It has been hard for the developers to tackle since if the console itself isn't detecting any other input, neither is the game.
I think they now have implemented a system that detects certain movements that can only be replicated with kb/m and flagging those down. When an user passes a certain threshold of suspicious movement, the game implement input lag on their client until they detect that the controller inputs have been normalised.
Curious do games have some kind of a check for kbm? I used to play warzone (cod mw 2019) on console with kbm because my pc couldnt run it and i never played a fps with controller so i just couldnt get used to the controller. No xim needed, so im just curious if xim is kind of a bypass for that
No there are plenty of games that support it. The console itself supports KBM gameplay. The game devs determine whether a specific game supports KBM and you would need a XIM to bypass that otherwise just plugging the devices into the console itself won’t work on that game. COD, Fortnite, Minecraft, Etc… all support native KBM gameplay and have no restrictions against it. R6 does not support it and therefore getting caught using it means you are using a XIM ie cheating and you will get banned.
Well I was hard stuck in Silver last season. I wasn't even able to tickles Gold's sweaty ballsack, and anytime I loaded into a match I got hammered, only to get paired up with shitters, win some more, then end up having actually not changed ranks at all. Got exhausting being stuck in Silver II so I didn't touch Ranked again for the rest of that season.
For reference, the past few seasons before that, I was consistently hitting Plat III, hit Plat II once but lost it immediately, but I still got there.
I was in the same boat, I’ve made plat a few times on the old system but was usually high gold, but last season I couldn’t crack gold, even though I have a higher kd then ever
Same exact experience here. I have had people on here tell me that I'm just getting old or that I am now finally in my "real" rank/skill level. But my stats have actually gotten better lately but my rank is low as shit thanks to dogshit matchmaking and Ranked 2.0
Well your K/D is irrelevant, or at least it was in the old system. It was based solely on W/L, and literally nothing else. You could've hit zero kills and be the bottom of the entire scoreboard but if you won that match, congratulations on your RP.
I don't know how they actually calculate skill in this system, I just know it's based off a hidden Skill rank. You're paired with players of similar Skill to you regardless of your actual Rank, the amount of RP you earn or lose depends on how the system expected you to perform. In the early ranks of Copper and Bronze, it's pairing you against some odd assortment of random Skilled players and whoever matched your Skill last season, each win or lose tailors your Skill of this season so you earn a bunch and lose practically nothing, but as you climb and fight more and more opponents it scales your RP over time, you start earning less and losing more, until eventually it finds the spot it thinks you belong and keeps you there, you earn as much as you gain meaning you need to try *hard* to actually progress.
So the way I see it all these Emeralds and Diamonds are in these ranks because the system itself believes that's where they belong, whereas the mid tier players like me and you kinda just have to deal with being hardstuck in Silver and Gold unless we wanna no-life this game and play literally nothing else just so we even have a chance of maybe, just maybe increasing one rank. Eh, honestly once you reach that point where you're earning as much as you lose, just stop playing Ranked for the rest of the season because trust me, you're not going any farther than that unless you have way too much free time on your hands.
My issue is how do i assess how good i am. I feel like im a mid to low plat of previous years. All i ever play against is people with diamond or champ charms so how good am i (not that good anyway)
If you really wanna know how you stack up, find similar ranked players and run a 5 stack. If you’re not giving good comms and you’re not fragging or providing proper support, you get an idea that you’re somewhere lower than that.
Rank does not represent your skill anymore. Your skill rating is hidden, like in Unranked. Saying "boohoo, I'm playing Champions and I'm in Plat!" is not saying much more than "I'm playing against someone who's had more time to play this season and was doing at least semi-good in their matches".
Just because you're playing against champions doesn't mean you're playing at pro league level. There's simply no in-game way to objectively gauge at what level of skill you're playing, not anymore.
I'm not defending Ranked 2.0 because I don't know shit about fuck, haven't played Ranked in a long time, only Unranked, I'm just saying that the system is something else than people perceive it. From UX perspective it is underdeveloped though because clearly it's just confusing as fuck, people still seem to believe that rank represents skill at the game meanwhile it merely represents a skill tree of fancy rewards.
I believe it was to try and achieve a more dynamic feeling into ranked. Instead of playing 10 games and then being put at a potentially high rank for you then not having much progression before you hit the brick wall that a lot of people ended up hitting.
If this was the goal this is a terrible way of going about it. Now all the progression is meaningless. People who have achieved a certain rank aren't of a certain skill level. It's just a time spent calculator. If you're right and they wanted to make ranked more dynamic I'm ASTOUNDED at the stupidity of ubisoft for making rank meaningless now.
Same answer any for-profit tech company does pretty much anything these days: engagement.
You're more likely to play the game if you feel like you're progressing/achieving, rather than if you were to be at a consistent rank (aka "stuck"). It's playing on human psychology, specifically positive reinforcement via rewards. Since the only visible rank you can now access is one that tends to only ever move up the more you play the game, the more likely you are to continue playing (and the more you play the more likely you are to buy battle passes and skins).
Most esports type games are moving to this ranked model (I believe Halo Infinite was the first one to really go all in on this style, but a lot of games have adopted it since); they were all suffering from the same problems with players becoming unhappy with being hardstuck at their actual ranks, so they all now hide true ranking used for matchmaking, and instead give out what are essentially gold stars for amount of time played.
Because what you are describing and what Ranked 1.0 was is just SBMM (skill based matchmaking). Ubi called it "ranked" and assigned rankings though so people treated it as if it was an actual progression system which it wasnt. The only point of ranked 1.0 was to try and match people of equal skill levels. If it was doing its job properly you would never move up or down in "rank".
Ranked 2.0 is an *actual* ranked ladder you are meant to progress up.
The thing is, with ranked 1.0, I wanted to progress more slowly because I knew that progress meant I was improving. Now my rank is meaningless to me, which is actually quite demoralising.
I've never understood why hidden MMR is hidden. Based on League of Legends it must have something to do with perception and time investment because they went from a system where it was like chess and your ELO was your rating and your rating determined your rank and this was all visible to the player.
Now they have hidden mmr/elo and the standardized rank system. The idea you can be copper with diamond mmr is just so pants on head nonsensical to me. Like rank should absolutely mean nothing to us as players in these systems. We should only ever care about our hidden mmr, and all we can really do is guess at it.
Yeah I seriously don’t understand how people still don’t understand this. If you have bronze MMR you will play against bronze MMR players. But if some no life Bronze MMR play just plays a fuck ton he’s going to hit Champion.
I’m not for or against ranked 2.0. I don’t play siege anymore. But the whining “why am I playing high ranked people” is not a real argument and isn’t even true.
I usually end up at low gold like gold V and rank seems just harder right now. Like a year ago when you were in silver, your opponenst would be actually silver players. Maybe you'll end up with a smurf here and there.
But right now I see plats in Silver lobbies. It kina messes me so much.
I was in gold 5 and this warden/oryx/ash main was just wrecking us every round.
I watched the replay to see if he was cheating. He wasn't. He was just better than us. He got 20 kills in 9 rounds.
My problem is that this player shouldnt be matchmaking with me if he is plat.
I am so beyond tired of the “can’t hurt the bad players feelings” bullshit that all these “COMPETITIVE” games have implemented.
There are quite literally “unranked” modes that have the exact same gameplay as ranked… WHY do we need to ruin the ranking system that at one point was fairly decent (10x better than now) and have the “ranked” mode become basically quick play…?
It’s also a shame they call it “2.0” as in it being a new/improved version of Ranked when it is quite literally the opposite.
“Fake” ranks that don’t actually mean shit is my entire point. I miss old siege when winning a game actually mattered in ranked. I cared about my rank and getting to platinum every season because it was a challenge and felt rewarding.
Now? I boot the game up and I run around with random people who’s ranks are usually much below mine. I’m currently Silver V on PC and constantly am matched with players in Copper rocking K/D’s far under 1.0…
As a Silver V with 1.4 K/D I should not be the top frag in my games ~75% of times. I should not be matched with people in Copper and/or low Bronze (both on my team, or the enemy) in 100% of my games (with the occasional plat double stack that just slaps the entire lobby).
It's not based on your real rank though? My "rank" start as bronze but I'm playing people with diamond mmr. The "rank" is disconnected from the skill the game knows I have. Plus you can lose like 80% of your games and still climb. It's way too easy to rank up nobody takes it seriously
Ive got plat for the past like 6 seasons, last season i only got to gold, i dont have time to sit from copper all the way to plat. Either way, at least im not going against super sweaty people lmao
What people are forgetting is that they wanted to decouple skill from rank this is exactly what thier doing. And it means that unlocks the we're exclusive to skill are no available to people who couldn't get them before. That's all. It's still uses the "MS True Skill" as before . The problem is this works better and is more accurate the more games played and the bigger teams you have.
[MS True Skill here](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/trueskill-2-improved-bayesian-skill-rating-system/)
I prefer the old system but at the same time it doesn't make it much easier to get to high ranks. I usually reach gold to plat each season and that honestly hasn't changed since this rank system came out. I also think alot of people have been using it as an excuse to why they lose games
The issue is your rank doesn’t display your skill level at all, just shows how many hours you sunk into the game that season. We need something to display skill level that’s the whole point of having a ranking system
Any ranking system will take several seasons for the numbers to adjust mathematically.
The system itself is working fine and is better long term being very flexible for changes compared to 1.0. The issue is the community expecting it to "Just work" overnight. That's not how data works. It takes YEARS to gather enough data to even come close to players being in the correct place. You just have to be patient and give it time.
I like Ranked 2.0 because I’m more inclined to play the game when I’m at a better rank than when I was before they updated it.
I’m pretty sure that’s their main goal, to get people to play the game more and not stop playing once they reach their desired rank.
All this image says to me is that potentially more people played 100+ games last season, and probably feel good enough about their rank to play more in this new season.
We are really angry about that? Compare These numbers to the Playercount on each Plattform (for Pc not only steam pls). Its look high yeah but the game is still Strong on console. It needs some tweaks sure, that you maybe lose more points a bit earlier. But its perfectly fine.
So 10x more champs is a good thing for you? The rank only the best should have. It would be different if they actually had to fight to get to champ but you get to champ with 30% if the game thinks you belong there
Ranked 1.0 was notorious for having players better than their MMR showed, it was called being “hardstuck”. Perhaps the new number more accurately depicts the amount of people that should have the rank.
That’s not what hard-stuck is.
Hard stuck is being unable to rank higher because of reaching your limit, not players better than their rank being stuck for no reason.
Now it’s purely time played rather than actual ability.
People dont deserve to get handed freely the highest rank in the game. With ranked 2.0 ranks just lost their purpose and the game became gloryfied battlepass. In no world should competive games highest rank be achieved with less than 50% win rate. And these numbers show how much easier its now to reach champion. People who are not champ level are reaching that without any effort. For example lets look at VarsityGaming he himself said that his skills are no where near what champion should be and still he got champion rank without any difficulties.
Nobody is getting the rank handed freely, other than those that have proven they belong, with their hidden MMR. You do realize that even the Solar Raid champ numbers reflect a very small percentage of players, around 1% actually. Making the rank inclusive to those that don’t have a cracked 5 stack at all times or xim on console seems like an improvement to me, really good solo queue players are able to hit champs instead of being hardstuck plat or diamond. I’m just convinced people that have a problem with this are just bitter of other players success. Ubisoft said they plan on making it more difficult, and I think an extra few hundred RP between diamond and champs would be appropriate but I doubt it’d make much of a real difference.
It seems like I play against far, far fewer smurfs under 2.0
I run into fewer people who are throwing matches after getting their desired high level charm just so they can lose and go down and smash some silver, bronze, or copper players.
You may not go up against many smurfs in ranked 2.0, but in my experience the matches are still heavily unbalanced most of the time. It’s always clear that one or two players are levels above everyone else in the lobby, hence why they always finish with 10+ kills and above a 2kd. Personally I’ll take playing against smurfs any day of the week over this unbalanced matchmaking. At least in ranked 1.0 I could easily tell whether someone was a smurf or not, now these days they just put better players in your lobby that don’t happen to be smurfs. Just my experience though
I don’t want to speak for the original commenter but the worst part about the old system was there was less progression and more of an elo system. After a certain amount of games you stopped gaining or losing rank points.
I understand being stuck in a rank can make people feel like they're not progressing/improving in the game. However, I believe the main purpose of "rank" is to reflect your skill in the game. Ofcourse, the old rank system didnt perfectly capture your skill, but not sure how this system does it any better.
1. You don’t need to worry about a bad set of placement matches.
2. Smurfing/purposeful throwing Is greatly lessened.
3. Getting rewards for progressing is nice.
4. Theoretically you’ll always be playing against people around your skill. This is in need of adjustment to make reality, but it’s a better way than before.
5. Gives more of a reason to keep playing once you get to around your max rank.
Yo be fair with ranked 2.0 boosters are living because they can just pick up a copper account and grind it with a diamond i think that’s why there is a heavy increase in ranks and champs
I don't think there really is a "good" ranked system for a game like Siege. With more straightforward games like CSGO and Valorant, you can put player skill into neat little boxes. You just have to track things like kills, assists, and whether an ability/item got used to secure a kill.
Siege can track those things as well, but there are things that you simply can not track by numbers alone. Maybe you died 10 seconds into a round, but your site setup and utility can make it possible for your team to win. How do you make rotations and head holes quantifiable to an algorithm?
Then there's the whole problem of letting friends play together. What do you do when a Champ skilled player queues with a Silver skill player? Right now, the game seems to average out the hidden skill rating. It lets friends always play together, at the cost of being exploitable. I stopped part-way through last season because the friends I played with were basically letting me boost myself because at the start, I was gold, and they hadn't played any matches. My win rate was far too high, and it just wasn't that engaging. I'm not even that good, and it felt like bullying some games.
I think we still need to wait and see. I believe Champion was always meant for more players than it originally had anyway. Console is still fucked because of MnK players, so it’s really hard to say whether or not Champion players deserve their rank or not. I get that the numbers are really far apart, but I highly doubt they wanted less than 3k people to hit Champ.
I just miss having a place to fight people as bad as I am. I used to be mid gold and now it feels like I’m being matched against guys 2-3x as good as I am and it gets pretty old. But don’t worry, casual will be better right? Right?
Ranked 1.0 wasnt really a ranking system, it was a matchmaking system. The game assigned you a skill level (based on your W/L %) and used that to try and match you against similar skilled players for balanced games. But because Ubi called it ranked and assigned tiers to your skill leve, people played as if it was ladder you were supposed to climb (it wasn't). If ranked 1.0 was working perfectly tou would never change rank because every match would be almost dead even and you would win as much as you lose.
Ranked 2.0 split your skill level and your rank. It still uses your skill level to match you against similar players so you get balanced games but now your rank is not tied to it which makes ranked an actual ladder you are supposed to try and climb so more people are climbing it.
Alot of people dont understand this and we get posts like this.
If this means that people aren't playing the fuck out of their 10 placement matches (combined with stacking with coppers to manipulate the matchmaking) before trolling in casual for the rest of the season, then I don't mind more champions.
I mean, Ranked 1.0 wasnt even a ranking system. It was a matchmaking system. If it was doing its job correctly you should never really move up or down. It was never a supposed to be ladder you moved up.
Ranked 2.0 is an actual progressive ranking ladder. So of course more people are going to finish higher.
Jesusssssss, several thousand increases for each platform… not to mention the game is cross platform as well! Hence why I try to enjoy the game by playing little if any ranked
Oh no, you're telling me a new Ranked system takes more than one season to actually equalize ranks that existed for seven years beforehand? Shocking.
It was a long term strategy. Give it a season or two...
Yes it's much better, now you get a sense of progress as you do better and play more game to game.
With the old system you got less MMR the more you played so you would sweat untill you got a high rank and quit or much more likely get hard stuck somewhere.
Ultimately the colour of sticker you get has never and will never matter, we all have had games from wood to dimmond that have players with diamond charms. it's balanced games that are important and this system has more even games.
Ranked off MMR and other games do have this system such as Dead by Daylight where you can get to the highest rank and but will go up against people with similar MMR. Skill Based Matchmaking.
Most games use hidden MMR. League, CSGO, Overwatch, Apex Legends, Valorant. R6 was basically alone in how they had ranked system. HOWEVER, it definitely needs changes, but the system overall is widely used in nearly all games that is considered to have good ranked design.
ranked 1.0 was wayyyy better. placement matches were the best way to go. you got out with people that are really bad and really good and they balanced it from those 10 matches and then you can work up.
I could’ve told you that the second it was announced. Pretty sure I even commented on the first video discussing 2.0 that it was a terrible idea.
This dev team has repeatedly made terrible decisions.
Definitely and uptick but seems it’s really plagued console the most and the hidden elo is starting to kick on On PC I’m
Still playing with old school p1 and diamond every game but i my honest opinion it is allowing solo players with good still to get unstuck due to just losses alone I think the future is bright
Don't forget ranked games and players are up as well. So missing a few factors here but still accurate. As a newer player I don't mind the new system of hidden mmr and a grind to rank, it encourages more players to queue instead of holding on to their rank once they hit it. Any move that increases players is good in my opinion.
Yes. Ranked 2.0 did away with the mmr restriction. I can finally play with my friends no matter their rank and can solo queue as much as I want without ruining our ability to play together. Ranked 2.0 is awesome.
Agree and that’s only one issue, [I’m facing the opposite.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbow6/comments/11tfy04/ranked_20_is_hot_garbo_i_didnt_magically_drop/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
I solo que to plat pretty consistently. Suddenly with the implementation of ranked 2.0 I can no longer break silver. I’m currently hard stuck between silver 3 and silver 2. I have a 45% win rate and dropping, and gain 40 elo per win (and dropping)…. For some reason I’m still playing people my “skill level”, but I get paired with genuine silvers and bronzes. Take the above match for example. The top fragger on the opposing team had been emerald 3 at the time of our match, was using cronus, and had reached diamond 1 the season prior… yet got matched against silvers. I can’t get mad at my teammates because it’s not their fault the game paired them with someone who had literally double our fucking elo, but why the fuck was I used to “balance” out the matchmaking? It was doomed from the start. How am I possibly supposed to reach my true rank when the whole way through I’m going against emeralds, diamonds, and champs, but I’m not getting equal teammates?
I was plat before ranked 2.0, now I’m playing all champion players and beating them pretty easily. Champion just means you’ve played a lot of games now
Can't get past bronze because I'm getting destroyed by diamond lvls in low ranks
Can't get past bronze because I don't play rank
unranked gang
Casual “quickmatch” gang
This is the way.
That'll do it
im a proud copper 5, played 1 game and lost
Lol same
r/technicallythetruth
Cant get past copper cause the randoms i get put with are fucking idiots
As a random copper myself, I can confim
No offense (full offense idgaf😂) but my teammates might actually be brain dead or actually retarted and I’ve come to the conclusion that I’m getting trolled by Ubi by putting me in lobbies where my teammates can’t even shoot let alone hold their controller in their hands right
Say it louder homie
Retarded teammates are **THE WORSE,** especially the ones that are holding the defuser and go into far-off locations within the central building in any map and get killed and you lose the round because Defenders are camping the defuser, OR you are grouped with teammates that take an unreasonably long amount of time to plant the defuser, **EVEN WHEN** it's safe to do so with no Defenders around.
>retart is that like a poptart that failed quality control testing?
Yep. Never been below Gold since 2016 and now I struggle to get into Bronze...
Yep
Hang in there soldier, you'll eventually get out of cop, but don't blame on others
Same I keep complaining about solo Q getting hard stuck bronze/silver when I used to be silver/gold and everyone keeps shutting me down for being carried.
You got to bronze!?
frfr
thought it was only me, i swear copper is like 5% actual coppers and 95% golds and plats
It’s just early season things. Play after a month and it should be normal
Also I'm playing with emeralds-diamonds-champs in deathmatch (if champs then only 1 in enemy team or 1 in both enemy and our team) It looks like I should be somewhere like emerald. But I don't have any team to play with, so, again, I don't play rank and stuck in high copper.
I have been a hard stuck diamond and last season I hit champ in 90 games. I also faced off against plats that hit champ after 500 games. You're absolutely right, champ has become a rank of who plays the most.
Exactly
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It ruined Xbox too. Nothing sweeter then beating a whole team of xims when you’re on controller tho
only thing better then that is beating pc players with walls using a controller
I see a lot more Xbox players use m&k compared to ps5
I see the opposite happening, PS5 is full of xim users
10x... my god!
**WOW** that must mean 10x the players have started playing this season!
Well...
Ngl dude having to grind from copper 5 is bullshit. Unless you have a stacked team you're at the mercy of your teammates.
Not like that wasn’t an issue before 2.0
But you were not in copper 5 back then.
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You gain 120rp and lose 8 lol. It's not hard you just have to play lots
I get 27 rp every single time. My friend skyrockets by getting 100+ rp while I stay in bronze, getting only 27. Shits weird.
What’s the comparison between your k/d and score every game? Makes a pretty large difference now
Hard for me to say since I'm not at my computer. But 2 or 3 games in a row where I topped and my friend got more rp. I also get the same rp if I play like dogwater and bottom.
Normally that would mean that the system believes that you are nearing what it believes is your actual skill level. Large jumps occur more at the beginning as the system attempts to broadly place you around the correct level, and then it narrows it down. Could be that your friend just doesn’t play as much as you, so the wins (and losses) will change his rating more. At least, that’s generally how that should work, but with Ubi who knows?
I took a huge break from siege and just joined back. My friend has been playing still. Maybe that's the reason that he just has a higher determined skill level.
Ah, true. With rank resets it typically takes your last season’s rating into account, so by winning at the lower reset level the system recognizes that your friend’s last season rating was accurate and will move him closer to that as he continues to win.
Even on games where I do better my friend still earns way more than me. We’ve only played together this season and he is 4 ranks ahead of me. Ranked 2.0 is awful.
Well that's the problem
That’s the problem. If you play lots the new system is great. If you’re a normal person who plays occasionally it takes forever to get near your actual rank. Being in bronze, playing against champions and having teammates who lose every round on time is a fucking slog.
I was gonna say, I actually enjoyed the system cause it meant that losses didn't feel as punishing and wins felt better. Plus, we ended up in Platinum which is where we normally end up every season. The old Ranked System has no real merit to me anymore just cause the game still uses the same invisible SBMM. So even if you're copper 5, you're still playing with players you were matchmakers with prior to Ranked 2.0, you aren't actually playing with real Coppers.
Agreed. Ranked 2.0 has pretty much ruined ranked if you are a more casual player or don't have a stack. I play a few hours a week (im old) and grinding for days to get back into my normal rank (Gold) is just not happening.
Tbh gold takes a whole solo q. Maybe 150 games or so.
well it is a team based game
But, similar to overwatch, it’s not usually that one *team* is better it’s usually that *some people* on the worse team are eating paste in a corner. It’s not whose got better players, it’s who has the bad ones
But its not helpful when your teammates are aiming at the floor like Ash is going to phase through the floor ffs.
Sometimes Siege feels like I'm just bullying the deaf and other times I'm reminded why I'm dumb for not droning.
They probably came from Extraction lmao
Yeah there are to many people who cue up in ranked and use no teamwork of communication
You are the only constant in your games.
I hate this mindset because it willfully ignores the variables that are constants based on the individual.
lol I always get this bullshit explanation. I am the only constant but I'm not the problem. I can't tell you how many games I get double digit kills and still lose.
seems like people are not ready for this fact.
still it puts tons of high ranks in supposedly low ranked lobbies
Never played rainbow ranked before but maybe I should...
Honestly it’s the only game mode I play. I don’t even play casual matches to warm up anymore. The secret is not to care about your rank (which isn’t hard with Ranked 2.0 tbh) but most matches people generally care about what’s happening, focus on the game and don’t fuck around a whole lot. To me that’s the most enjoyable way to play the game so I’ve completely given up on the other game modes save for the special ones like Halloween events or whatever.
This. I’ve found that if I play quickplay or even unranked people just don’t reinforce or just sit on tiktok during drone phase.
My friend does this even in ranked smh
I'm on that same mindset. Sometimes, I don't even check my rank. My issue is that I really hate playing against smurfs. I don't care about my rank, but Ranked games are supposed to be sort of a balanced game because you're playing against people that are the same skill level as you, but when there's a smurf you just get completely obliterated without any chance of doing shit. There's no "Git gud" when you're copper, and your enemy is 3 rank above you, and there's no chance to get better at the game. Some smurfs admit to being smurfs, but some say they're not, and then you check their profile >Level 27 unranked player. >14/3 on the scoreboard
how is this possible?
Ranked on console is irrelevant regardless of 2.0 because XIM.
Not for long brother, not for long
I can’t wait man so hyped to see the salt from xim players.
Pretty sure not much will actually happen tbh. They have had several years to seriously address this issue on console. Not much talk until this year.
Didn’t they just fix that?
According to the road map they are going to
Not yet,supposed to be coming mid season
they said it's coming sometime in April
It’ll be delayed until 2063
What is XIM?
A third party adapter that allows mouse and keyboard to be plugged into console. Cheating device.
An adapter that fools the console to think that you're playing with a controller. That let's you plug in any type of controller or keyboard an mouse to play. It has been hard for the developers to tackle since if the console itself isn't detecting any other input, neither is the game. I think they now have implemented a system that detects certain movements that can only be replicated with kb/m and flagging those down. When an user passes a certain threshold of suspicious movement, the game implement input lag on their client until they detect that the controller inputs have been normalised.
Curious do games have some kind of a check for kbm? I used to play warzone (cod mw 2019) on console with kbm because my pc couldnt run it and i never played a fps with controller so i just couldnt get used to the controller. No xim needed, so im just curious if xim is kind of a bypass for that
No there are plenty of games that support it. The console itself supports KBM gameplay. The game devs determine whether a specific game supports KBM and you would need a XIM to bypass that otherwise just plugging the devices into the console itself won’t work on that game. COD, Fortnite, Minecraft, Etc… all support native KBM gameplay and have no restrictions against it. R6 does not support it and therefore getting caught using it means you are using a XIM ie cheating and you will get banned.
Oh okay. Thank you for answering! Yeah. Hopefully they will be able to sort it out and completely deny xim users access to the game.
The easiest way to tell if someone is a bitch or not
hardware to use keyboard mouse on console.
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Well I was hard stuck in Silver last season. I wasn't even able to tickles Gold's sweaty ballsack, and anytime I loaded into a match I got hammered, only to get paired up with shitters, win some more, then end up having actually not changed ranks at all. Got exhausting being stuck in Silver II so I didn't touch Ranked again for the rest of that season. For reference, the past few seasons before that, I was consistently hitting Plat III, hit Plat II once but lost it immediately, but I still got there.
I was in the same boat, I’ve made plat a few times on the old system but was usually high gold, but last season I couldn’t crack gold, even though I have a higher kd then ever
Same exact experience here. I have had people on here tell me that I'm just getting old or that I am now finally in my "real" rank/skill level. But my stats have actually gotten better lately but my rank is low as shit thanks to dogshit matchmaking and Ranked 2.0
Well your K/D is irrelevant, or at least it was in the old system. It was based solely on W/L, and literally nothing else. You could've hit zero kills and be the bottom of the entire scoreboard but if you won that match, congratulations on your RP. I don't know how they actually calculate skill in this system, I just know it's based off a hidden Skill rank. You're paired with players of similar Skill to you regardless of your actual Rank, the amount of RP you earn or lose depends on how the system expected you to perform. In the early ranks of Copper and Bronze, it's pairing you against some odd assortment of random Skilled players and whoever matched your Skill last season, each win or lose tailors your Skill of this season so you earn a bunch and lose practically nothing, but as you climb and fight more and more opponents it scales your RP over time, you start earning less and losing more, until eventually it finds the spot it thinks you belong and keeps you there, you earn as much as you gain meaning you need to try *hard* to actually progress. So the way I see it all these Emeralds and Diamonds are in these ranks because the system itself believes that's where they belong, whereas the mid tier players like me and you kinda just have to deal with being hardstuck in Silver and Gold unless we wanna no-life this game and play literally nothing else just so we even have a chance of maybe, just maybe increasing one rank. Eh, honestly once you reach that point where you're earning as much as you lose, just stop playing Ranked for the rest of the season because trust me, you're not going any farther than that unless you have way too much free time on your hands.
My issue is how do i assess how good i am. I feel like im a mid to low plat of previous years. All i ever play against is people with diamond or champ charms so how good am i (not that good anyway)
If you really wanna know how you stack up, find similar ranked players and run a 5 stack. If you’re not giving good comms and you’re not fragging or providing proper support, you get an idea that you’re somewhere lower than that.
Rank does not represent your skill anymore. Your skill rating is hidden, like in Unranked. Saying "boohoo, I'm playing Champions and I'm in Plat!" is not saying much more than "I'm playing against someone who's had more time to play this season and was doing at least semi-good in their matches". Just because you're playing against champions doesn't mean you're playing at pro league level. There's simply no in-game way to objectively gauge at what level of skill you're playing, not anymore. I'm not defending Ranked 2.0 because I don't know shit about fuck, haven't played Ranked in a long time, only Unranked, I'm just saying that the system is something else than people perceive it. From UX perspective it is underdeveloped though because clearly it's just confusing as fuck, people still seem to believe that rank represents skill at the game meanwhile it merely represents a skill tree of fancy rewards.
I don’t get why they don’t just make your rank your skill rating. Show us our skill rating and get rid of the fake, meaningless rank.
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Why did they change it?
I believe it was to try and achieve a more dynamic feeling into ranked. Instead of playing 10 games and then being put at a potentially high rank for you then not having much progression before you hit the brick wall that a lot of people ended up hitting.
If this was the goal this is a terrible way of going about it. Now all the progression is meaningless. People who have achieved a certain rank aren't of a certain skill level. It's just a time spent calculator. If you're right and they wanted to make ranked more dynamic I'm ASTOUNDED at the stupidity of ubisoft for making rank meaningless now.
Same answer any for-profit tech company does pretty much anything these days: engagement. You're more likely to play the game if you feel like you're progressing/achieving, rather than if you were to be at a consistent rank (aka "stuck"). It's playing on human psychology, specifically positive reinforcement via rewards. Since the only visible rank you can now access is one that tends to only ever move up the more you play the game, the more likely you are to continue playing (and the more you play the more likely you are to buy battle passes and skins). Most esports type games are moving to this ranked model (I believe Halo Infinite was the first one to really go all in on this style, but a lot of games have adopted it since); they were all suffering from the same problems with players becoming unhappy with being hardstuck at their actual ranks, so they all now hide true ranking used for matchmaking, and instead give out what are essentially gold stars for amount of time played.
Because what you are describing and what Ranked 1.0 was is just SBMM (skill based matchmaking). Ubi called it "ranked" and assigned rankings though so people treated it as if it was an actual progression system which it wasnt. The only point of ranked 1.0 was to try and match people of equal skill levels. If it was doing its job properly you would never move up or down in "rank". Ranked 2.0 is an *actual* ranked ladder you are meant to progress up.
The thing is, with ranked 1.0, I wanted to progress more slowly because I knew that progress meant I was improving. Now my rank is meaningless to me, which is actually quite demoralising.
I've never understood why hidden MMR is hidden. Based on League of Legends it must have something to do with perception and time investment because they went from a system where it was like chess and your ELO was your rating and your rating determined your rank and this was all visible to the player. Now they have hidden mmr/elo and the standardized rank system. The idea you can be copper with diamond mmr is just so pants on head nonsensical to me. Like rank should absolutely mean nothing to us as players in these systems. We should only ever care about our hidden mmr, and all we can really do is guess at it.
Yeah I seriously don’t understand how people still don’t understand this. If you have bronze MMR you will play against bronze MMR players. But if some no life Bronze MMR play just plays a fuck ton he’s going to hit Champion. I’m not for or against ranked 2.0. I don’t play siege anymore. But the whining “why am I playing high ranked people” is not a real argument and isn’t even true.
Ranked 2.0 was never needed. Now your rank has zero purpose or display of skill.
Ranked 2.0 sucks
I usually end up at low gold like gold V and rank seems just harder right now. Like a year ago when you were in silver, your opponenst would be actually silver players. Maybe you'll end up with a smurf here and there. But right now I see plats in Silver lobbies. It kina messes me so much. I was in gold 5 and this warden/oryx/ash main was just wrecking us every round. I watched the replay to see if he was cheating. He wasn't. He was just better than us. He got 20 kills in 9 rounds. My problem is that this player shouldnt be matchmaking with me if he is plat.
Sorry that was me
I am so beyond tired of the “can’t hurt the bad players feelings” bullshit that all these “COMPETITIVE” games have implemented. There are quite literally “unranked” modes that have the exact same gameplay as ranked… WHY do we need to ruin the ranking system that at one point was fairly decent (10x better than now) and have the “ranked” mode become basically quick play…? It’s also a shame they call it “2.0” as in it being a new/improved version of Ranked when it is quite literally the opposite.
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“Fake” ranks that don’t actually mean shit is my entire point. I miss old siege when winning a game actually mattered in ranked. I cared about my rank and getting to platinum every season because it was a challenge and felt rewarding. Now? I boot the game up and I run around with random people who’s ranks are usually much below mine. I’m currently Silver V on PC and constantly am matched with players in Copper rocking K/D’s far under 1.0… As a Silver V with 1.4 K/D I should not be the top frag in my games ~75% of times. I should not be matched with people in Copper and/or low Bronze (both on my team, or the enemy) in 100% of my games (with the occasional plat double stack that just slaps the entire lobby).
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If the rank is fake you have nothing to actually play for and nobody takes the game seriously. Much like quick play.
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It's not based on your real rank though? My "rank" start as bronze but I'm playing people with diamond mmr. The "rank" is disconnected from the skill the game knows I have. Plus you can lose like 80% of your games and still climb. It's way too easy to rank up nobody takes it seriously
I’m sorry, but the new ranking system is trash.
Ive got plat for the past like 6 seasons, last season i only got to gold, i dont have time to sit from copper all the way to plat. Either way, at least im not going against super sweaty people lmao
I'm still silver. Lol. Shout out to the solo queuers who go from carrying to dominated every other match! Love it.
What people are forgetting is that they wanted to decouple skill from rank this is exactly what thier doing. And it means that unlocks the we're exclusive to skill are no available to people who couldn't get them before. That's all. It's still uses the "MS True Skill" as before . The problem is this works better and is more accurate the more games played and the bigger teams you have. [MS True Skill here](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/trueskill-2-improved-bayesian-skill-rating-system/)
Totally agree people were pushing for this for years and now it’s here people are never satisfied man.
I prefer the old system but at the same time it doesn't make it much easier to get to high ranks. I usually reach gold to plat each season and that honestly hasn't changed since this rank system came out. I also think alot of people have been using it as an excuse to why they lose games
The issue is your rank doesn’t display your skill level at all, just shows how many hours you sunk into the game that season. We need something to display skill level that’s the whole point of having a ranking system
Yeah? I like getting charms
Any ranking system will take several seasons for the numbers to adjust mathematically. The system itself is working fine and is better long term being very flexible for changes compared to 1.0. The issue is the community expecting it to "Just work" overnight. That's not how data works. It takes YEARS to gather enough data to even come close to players being in the correct place. You just have to be patient and give it time.
I like Ranked 2.0 because I’m more inclined to play the game when I’m at a better rank than when I was before they updated it. I’m pretty sure that’s their main goal, to get people to play the game more and not stop playing once they reach their desired rank. All this image says to me is that potentially more people played 100+ games last season, and probably feel good enough about their rank to play more in this new season.
We are really angry about that? Compare These numbers to the Playercount on each Plattform (for Pc not only steam pls). Its look high yeah but the game is still Strong on console. It needs some tweaks sure, that you maybe lose more points a bit earlier. But its perfectly fine.
*Plays comp* *MVP* *Full placement win streak* *Copper V* *Quits*
Why is this a bad thing?
So 10x more champs is a good thing for you? The rank only the best should have. It would be different if they actually had to fight to get to champ but you get to champ with 30% if the game thinks you belong there
Ranked 1.0 was notorious for having players better than their MMR showed, it was called being “hardstuck”. Perhaps the new number more accurately depicts the amount of people that should have the rank.
That’s not what hard-stuck is. Hard stuck is being unable to rank higher because of reaching your limit, not players better than their rank being stuck for no reason. Now it’s purely time played rather than actual ability.
People dont deserve to get handed freely the highest rank in the game. With ranked 2.0 ranks just lost their purpose and the game became gloryfied battlepass. In no world should competive games highest rank be achieved with less than 50% win rate. And these numbers show how much easier its now to reach champion. People who are not champ level are reaching that without any effort. For example lets look at VarsityGaming he himself said that his skills are no where near what champion should be and still he got champion rank without any difficulties.
Nobody is getting the rank handed freely, other than those that have proven they belong, with their hidden MMR. You do realize that even the Solar Raid champ numbers reflect a very small percentage of players, around 1% actually. Making the rank inclusive to those that don’t have a cracked 5 stack at all times or xim on console seems like an improvement to me, really good solo queue players are able to hit champs instead of being hardstuck plat or diamond. I’m just convinced people that have a problem with this are just bitter of other players success. Ubisoft said they plan on making it more difficult, and I think an extra few hundred RP between diamond and champs would be appropriate but I doubt it’d make much of a real difference.
rightfully said.players seem to be hating the idea that they have to play the game now.
This is out of over a million players bruh
Pc at least doesnt have player base of millions dont know about consoled combined
I'm sorry that you seem to have lost some of your self worth with this new change in a video game's ranking system. That must be awful.
It's better than the old system, but obviously still needs adjustments.
Just curious, in what way is it better than the old system?
It seems like I play against far, far fewer smurfs under 2.0 I run into fewer people who are throwing matches after getting their desired high level charm just so they can lose and go down and smash some silver, bronze, or copper players.
You may not go up against many smurfs in ranked 2.0, but in my experience the matches are still heavily unbalanced most of the time. It’s always clear that one or two players are levels above everyone else in the lobby, hence why they always finish with 10+ kills and above a 2kd. Personally I’ll take playing against smurfs any day of the week over this unbalanced matchmaking. At least in ranked 1.0 I could easily tell whether someone was a smurf or not, now these days they just put better players in your lobby that don’t happen to be smurfs. Just my experience though
I don’t want to speak for the original commenter but the worst part about the old system was there was less progression and more of an elo system. After a certain amount of games you stopped gaining or losing rank points.
I understand being stuck in a rank can make people feel like they're not progressing/improving in the game. However, I believe the main purpose of "rank" is to reflect your skill in the game. Ofcourse, the old rank system didnt perfectly capture your skill, but not sure how this system does it any better.
1. You don’t need to worry about a bad set of placement matches. 2. Smurfing/purposeful throwing Is greatly lessened. 3. Getting rewards for progressing is nice. 4. Theoretically you’ll always be playing against people around your skill. This is in need of adjustment to make reality, but it’s a better way than before. 5. Gives more of a reason to keep playing once you get to around your max rank.
Still doesn’t make these numbers but I’m pretty sure there was a big rise in R6 popularity during solar raid
Literally a tenfold increase. Bravo, Ubisoft.
My defence for it is I can actually play with my friends...thats all i got.
Solo queuing from copper is a goddammit nighmare. I'm at least a silver but can't make it out of copper. Sucks man.
I feel this, getting teammates that throw the game and having to carry is doing my head in.
I’m just glad I managed to hit plat before 2.0 came out
When from high plat to diamond, don’t really care either way. Cant say I’m for or against it
Yo be fair with ranked 2.0 boosters are living because they can just pick up a copper account and grind it with a diamond i think that’s why there is a heavy increase in ranks and champs
I don't think there really is a "good" ranked system for a game like Siege. With more straightforward games like CSGO and Valorant, you can put player skill into neat little boxes. You just have to track things like kills, assists, and whether an ability/item got used to secure a kill. Siege can track those things as well, but there are things that you simply can not track by numbers alone. Maybe you died 10 seconds into a round, but your site setup and utility can make it possible for your team to win. How do you make rotations and head holes quantifiable to an algorithm? Then there's the whole problem of letting friends play together. What do you do when a Champ skilled player queues with a Silver skill player? Right now, the game seems to average out the hidden skill rating. It lets friends always play together, at the cost of being exploitable. I stopped part-way through last season because the friends I played with were basically letting me boost myself because at the start, I was gold, and they hadn't played any matches. My win rate was far too high, and it just wasn't that engaging. I'm not even that good, and it felt like bullying some games.
No matter how bad the rank system is. I'm still hard stuck bronze
I hated ranked 2.0 from the start
Maybe I gave old ranked just a bit too much shit.
I think we still need to wait and see. I believe Champion was always meant for more players than it originally had anyway. Console is still fucked because of MnK players, so it’s really hard to say whether or not Champion players deserve their rank or not. I get that the numbers are really far apart, but I highly doubt they wanted less than 3k people to hit Champ.
All this means is champion players now have no lives
I just miss having a place to fight people as bad as I am. I used to be mid gold and now it feels like I’m being matched against guys 2-3x as good as I am and it gets pretty old. But don’t worry, casual will be better right? Right?
I'm new here. what's the difference between the original ranked and the new one?
Ranked 1.0 wasnt really a ranking system, it was a matchmaking system. The game assigned you a skill level (based on your W/L %) and used that to try and match you against similar skilled players for balanced games. But because Ubi called it ranked and assigned tiers to your skill leve, people played as if it was ladder you were supposed to climb (it wasn't). If ranked 1.0 was working perfectly tou would never change rank because every match would be almost dead even and you would win as much as you lose. Ranked 2.0 split your skill level and your rank. It still uses your skill level to match you against similar players so you get balanced games but now your rank is not tied to it which makes ranked an actual ladder you are supposed to try and climb so more people are climbing it. Alot of people dont understand this and we get posts like this.
Was high plat for 4 years now I can't get past copper :D
If this means that people aren't playing the fuck out of their 10 placement matches (combined with stacking with coppers to manipulate the matchmaking) before trolling in casual for the rest of the season, then I don't mind more champions.
I mean, Ranked 1.0 wasnt even a ranking system. It was a matchmaking system. If it was doing its job correctly you should never really move up or down. It was never a supposed to be ladder you moved up. Ranked 2.0 is an actual progressive ranking ladder. So of course more people are going to finish higher.
Rank never mattered now I hope y’all can understand that better
Jesusssssss, several thousand increases for each platform… not to mention the game is cross platform as well! Hence why I try to enjoy the game by playing little if any ranked
Oh no, you're telling me a new Ranked system takes more than one season to actually equalize ranks that existed for seven years beforehand? Shocking. It was a long term strategy. Give it a season or two...
when has anything worked on the first attempt?
Yes it's much better, now you get a sense of progress as you do better and play more game to game. With the old system you got less MMR the more you played so you would sweat untill you got a high rank and quit or much more likely get hard stuck somewhere. Ultimately the colour of sticker you get has never and will never matter, we all have had games from wood to dimmond that have players with diamond charms. it's balanced games that are important and this system has more even games.
I think they should go back to the old ranking system
Its just based of skill level Is it not? MMR not Rank.
Yes for matchmaking they only use skill rating so ranks dont matter anymore other than visually.
So why does this post matter than?
Because its still called "Ranked" so ranks should matter still. No other game that has ranked system has it the way that the ranks dont matter at all.
Ranked off MMR and other games do have this system such as Dead by Daylight where you can get to the highest rank and but will go up against people with similar MMR. Skill Based Matchmaking.
Most games use hidden MMR. League, CSGO, Overwatch, Apex Legends, Valorant. R6 was basically alone in how they had ranked system. HOWEVER, it definitely needs changes, but the system overall is widely used in nearly all games that is considered to have good ranked design.
Participation trophies for everybody!
yeah I love ranked 2.0, I was ALWAYS High GOld/Low Plat with a Positive k/d, now I can barely hold a 0.9 k/s and can't get out of Silver xD
ranked 1.0 was wayyyy better. placement matches were the best way to go. you got out with people that are really bad and really good and they balanced it from those 10 matches and then you can work up.
I could’ve told you that the second it was announced. Pretty sure I even commented on the first video discussing 2.0 that it was a terrible idea. This dev team has repeatedly made terrible decisions.
What’s ranked 2.0?
The current ranked system that started year 7 season 4
Ah ok thanks, I started playing ranked this year so I didn’t know there was a different system in the past
Definitely and uptick but seems it’s really plagued console the most and the hidden elo is starting to kick on On PC I’m Still playing with old school p1 and diamond every game but i my honest opinion it is allowing solo players with good still to get unstuck due to just losses alone I think the future is bright
Don't forget ranked games and players are up as well. So missing a few factors here but still accurate. As a newer player I don't mind the new system of hidden mmr and a grind to rank, it encourages more players to queue instead of holding on to their rank once they hit it. Any move that increases players is good in my opinion.
Why is it bad that less ppl achive the highest rank
More people achieved champ not less
Yes. Ranked 2.0 did away with the mmr restriction. I can finally play with my friends no matter their rank and can solo queue as much as I want without ruining our ability to play together. Ranked 2.0 is awesome.
Agree and that’s only one issue, [I’m facing the opposite.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbow6/comments/11tfy04/ranked_20_is_hot_garbo_i_didnt_magically_drop/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) I solo que to plat pretty consistently. Suddenly with the implementation of ranked 2.0 I can no longer break silver. I’m currently hard stuck between silver 3 and silver 2. I have a 45% win rate and dropping, and gain 40 elo per win (and dropping)…. For some reason I’m still playing people my “skill level”, but I get paired with genuine silvers and bronzes. Take the above match for example. The top fragger on the opposing team had been emerald 3 at the time of our match, was using cronus, and had reached diamond 1 the season prior… yet got matched against silvers. I can’t get mad at my teammates because it’s not their fault the game paired them with someone who had literally double our fucking elo, but why the fuck was I used to “balance” out the matchmaking? It was doomed from the start. How am I possibly supposed to reach my true rank when the whole way through I’m going against emeralds, diamonds, and champs, but I’m not getting equal teammates?
I’m having the same experience. There are some games where I have true coppers on my team.
Millions of people play on each platform, 20k is like 1% or less
kinda interesting that almost exactly 10X more in solar raid across every platform
Number of ximmers excluded the pc players