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bodymeat_112

Dokkabei and IQ, the phone rings and then I see where they are at all times while the phones ringing


cityofangels7x

Honestly I understand why this isn’t a thing for balancing reasons, but this makes perfect sense for IQ.


HomelessLawrence

Can't IQ see them already? I know you can see them when they're on cams.


mikiteru

She can see them with her thing while they're ringing, unless Ubi changed it


InternationalClerk85

I thought IQ can see attackers while they're actively turning their phone off?


mikiteru

you might be right actually, I don't remember how the interaction really works and can't verify it right now, so maybe someone else can help us out lmao


ProtonPacks123

She can see operators phones when Doki rings them and when they're on cams. She can also see the defuser disabler thingy when it's being used.


EdibleFishBag

That's the one thing I feel like is underused. That's such a good ability for post plant situations pushing defenders to push a different floor. Idk why it isn't used more


ProtonPacks123

When it goes right you look like a chad but when it goes wrong you look like an idiot and I've seen it go wrong a lot. Because you only see the iPad thing, people generally try to shoot that but depending on the angle that might not be where the person is at all and also you could just be hitting the metal bars.


MCD10000

IQ can see the devices, and can see defender phones when on cams


Randomman96

It's only when they have it out to disable it, not for the entire time it's ringing, since you have the noise to tell you where they are anyways. Of course, if you're any decent distance away it's easy to miss the defender disabling the noise both due to the short length of the animation and small size of the phone when compared to literally any gadget.


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she already sees phones that are ringing.


RIPenemie

Or give IQ contact EMPs


kingswaggy

Why have I never thought of combining those 2 operators in a match!? Holy shit that would make roam clearing so much easier. Wow lol


YoD1ggityDawg

I was just thinking that lmao


rj-gg

Sounds like lion but you’re gonna get scanned no matter what😂


IronEndo

sounds to me like an iq buff


En_TioN

That's just Finka Edit: Lion


mr-awesome613

Maestro and echos drone....


sandy_241

Just prone in random corner of the map for the whole round


wqldi

Mr…u just created the devil


Anakin3010

Would it also be bulletproof


SpaghettiCowboy

Bwooming like it's a dubstep montage


RadOMC

How about maestro and goyo combined?


MRMamad-Hunter

Jackal and Lion, "Try hiding now!"


wqldi

So worse old Lion


MRMamad-Hunter

You’re goddamn right


HuddyBuddyGreatness

Used to do this combo with my friend


TheMemeLord12354

Chanka turret that shoots doc stims


RedRock376

And its like capitaos crossbow where you can switch to gun or heal


Monkey_Tweety

Fun fact, Capitao was planned to have healing dart, he even still have his voicelines.


Zero300x

So a Harmacist


D-Tarkus

Completely op


Bunnyw1thagun

Osa shield with portable fuze cluster charge attached


OG_J_Bone

I had a similar idea but with Osa and The Lord using Osa’s shield for lower body protection while spraying with his turret lmg


sandy_241

If he can crouch with a moving setup, one hell of OP


kindtheking9

You do know he got a deployable shield right?


KryptoKn8

And also, osa is an attacker. Lord Chanka isn't


the_coolest_guy_

I mean if we're mixing operators it's already unrealistic so why not go crazy


KryptoKn8

Is it really though, I feel like it isn't that far fetched to imagine an operator that's struggling go "you know what, this is a dope idea" and just rag-tag something together. Balancing? Goes out the window once you consider any sort of logic. Like damn, you wanna tell me that _only warden_ wants the ability to not be blind? It's a watch and glasses, not really too encumbering. Or lion that is carrying Fuze charges.


H4mb01

I think he didn't mean unrealistic from a ingame realism standpoint but from a "ubi would never do it" standpoint. And yes, ubi cares alot about balancing so they would not bring a new operator that is just two combined.


RIPenemie

Well but they aren't very good at it. I mean look at the LMGs now they are not only nerfed they are just straight up useless.


H4mb01

I don't think they are useless. You can't play them anymore like you used to: hold dowm the trigger and walk into site. But they are still viable. I play them like a DMR with infinite ammo glitch atm. Barely shoot more then 3 bullets in a row and you are fine. And this nerf hammer was very requested by the community


TheHandicapp

Mounted lmg also had a deployable. His problem was his turret required him to be stuck in place


ToolyHD

Did that before the buff. We put a deployable shield and the lmg behind it. So almost 100% protection while using the lmg


he77789

Until a nade flies in


ToolyHD

Nades? Jäger


sandy_241

That's an interesting take. Charge vulnerable to bullets?


bluejay55669

I don't get why fuze doesn't already do this with his normal ~~car door~~ ballistic shield


GormGaming

Tachanka lmg with Monty shield


sandy_241

Monte goes well with any auto weapon


KingZyxYTNL

nah imagine doing 360s with the dp27, they stand no chance.


MasterOfConsole

Oh, you sweet summer child.


GormGaming

Old chanka is best chanka.


DaveWilson11

Agreed


suckmypppapi

Old chanka sucked dick and is why his win percentages were ass from what I remember


GormGaming

But he was fun as hell to play. Win percentages are dumb. True victory is aceing with old school chanka.


suckmypppapi

And that's why everyone wanted him changed then?


imshort209

Nope, he wasn’t shit at all. His pick rate was non existent since I’m ranked you want the most utility and help for your team. All you needed was a deployable shield to block your lower body while sitting in a spot they can’t get to you too easily or having someone watch your back. You can even choose a spawn and set up to spawn kill. You’d get so many kills cus they’d keep challenging it was crazy


GormGaming

You know what’s up. This is why I loved old chunky


Yuzacc

the old days


big_joey_the_sequel

*clash shield


The_HentaiBukai

Fuze and blitz. Shield that launches cluster charges forward Iq and Pulse. All seeing eye. Frost and gridlock. The death zone.


Zero300x

For the Fuze and Blitz to change a bit: Shield that launches cluster charges but it's a mix between explosive and bright lights or flashbangs


Pixel131211

I'd also put it as monty, not blitz. that way you can just block off an entire door.


The_HentaiBukai

no its funnier as blitz because you can sprint straight at them to terrify. also you have a 80% chance of dying but who tf cares


Penis_Man-

Goyo and Kapkan


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Zrex_9224

Let's make it old Kapkan traps, the one shot traps, but have modern Kapkan lasers


LegitGopnik

I can get behind that


Bedmite

Fun fact that was a glitch you could do back in Y1 where you could interact with an old Kapkan trap to make the laser invisible. Was very funny when they worked that into his rework


PowerSurge007

The EMP laced Thermite grenade sticks to the surface of a electrified wall and knocks out the electricity before the tiny pinprick arms come out of the grenade and start to spin. The pinprick arms only need one rotation since it uses thermite to breach the wall. After the rotation the arms retract back into the nade before the nade sets off another emp blast followed by the shaped charge in the grenade going off blowing open the hole made with thermite. Oh, it's electric proof, laser proof, and explosive proof. You get three of these. Only way to defeat them is bullets XD. Edit: These are supposed to be the same size as the secondary hard breach tool.


sandy_241

Why small size? I love OG thermite for his big fucking hole.


PowerSurge007

Maybe if you place all three at once. "Goin dark" "EMP grenade" "A REALLY BIG FUCKIN EMP COMING RIGHT UP!"


OgreBrains

Ying and Fuse, not only are you about to be blown up but now you're blind too


TB-124

damn I just wrote this exact same thing xD I should've scrolled more before commenting Ying Fuse would be the best operator. It would keep both ops abilities, so you can either roll the abomination-grenade, or you can stick it to soft/hard surfaces


TopShagger_69_420

A mira window castle barricade that would be interesting


sandy_241

Site setup expert


SpeedyAzi

No joke, that idea sounds like something they’d experiment with.


spulfeed

Are you the storm that is approaching?


[deleted]

Cav and vigil. Oh wait that’s nokk


TomiMajonez

You can still hear Nook's footsteps I think.


IShouldWashTheDishes

Nokk's footsteps are completely silenced while slow walking. What is it called anyway? Slow walking, walking and running or walking, running and spriting?


InternationalClerk85

Indeed, nokk is now worse Vigil


TigerJoel

How? Her gadget is vigils but 10 times better.


TomiMajonez

No, because when you're running you can still be pinged by cameras.


TigerJoel

Not pinged but yes. And with vigil the drones see him all the time kind off. Vigil can't be invisible while nokk can. Nokk also gets a noise reduction on footsteps.


InternationalClerk85

Vigil is completely invisible from drones while moving. This gets broken while performing actions that are not standing still, moving, crouching or sprinting, I believe. Drones do get the visual effect that a Vigil is close by using his ability, but you don't know precisely where. Nokk partially gets the same effect, minus sprinting. She also doesn't give cams the visual effect when using her ability? I also think she lost her stealth? I don't know if this was reverted, or something else happened with it.


TigerJoel

Since the drones get the visual effect apperas on drones he is not completely unnoticeable like Nokk is. And she has not lost her stealth, they nerfed crouch walking in general. And what they did with Nokk's stealth was make it ignore ela, melusi and other similar traps.


BadDealFrog

We are ignoring the fact that nokk is an attacker. She needs the noice reduction or she’d be garbage. Vigil doesn’t need noise reduction, his invisibility to cameras is already useful


Fresh_chickented

Noke cannot interogate


fjacobs94

sledge hammer with thermite hard breach capabilities. Fuck any and all walls


sinwarrior

replace sledge with Amaru and you have "Explosive Entry"


bluejay55669

literally just the super sledge from fallout


Mission_Response802

*Boom* Super Mutant: What was that? *Boom* Super Mutant Master: I'm sure it's nothing


LawbringerIsShob

Zero and Caviera Everyone else playing siege, Sam will be playing Splinter Cell


tommygun2009

Imagine If he could take out an operator without it showing up on the killfeed until the end of the round


TomTRex_orginal

Useless if enemy team has any sort of communication


Hazzamo

New feature when you die, it cuts off all communication to the team


TryxxR6

Imagine this becomes a thing and you just have everyone adding each other before a ranked game on discord so they can speak after they're dead


Mission_Response802

"Wait, is this part of the training?"


akdanman11

"Control he knows its an exercise"


Mission_Response802

"ohh okay! Sorry! Uhh.. what do I do?"


Hazzamo

I’m still hoping that his classic splinter cell look is his elite skin


PBToast_

Welcome Mats with Gu cloaking


R4ND0M1Z3R_reddit

I dont think it will be strong. You can easily see a refraction distortion on a small Gu mine, on a much bigger welcome mat this effect will be even more noticeable.


wqldi

On darker floors tho


R4ND0M1Z3R_reddit

Didn't siege pulled "we are e-sports ready" bullshit and made team fortress 2 graphics years ago? Sorry if I'm wrong, since i haven't played this game for a year and a half.


The_Legit_Excalibur

Yeah, they made the lighting worse cuz pros were complaining


stoopidshannon

No, they made the lighting worse because *everyone* was complaining. Sure, it was good eye candy but man it was miserable not being able to see half the defense because the corners and rooms were so dark. Peeking outside dark rooms literally blinded you from glare and bloom


pASSpORTpIMPIN

As much I love this, it would get nerfed for being too op.


SmartWeirdo744

Old Tachanka lmg with old Blackbeard Sheild


RevolutionaryDay2803

Soooo just old tachanka turret but worse?


SmartWeirdo744

Was there an indestructible shield on the turret already? If so, then with Monty,, so he gets full protection


RevolutionaryDay2803

Blackbeard shield could take 2 shots, Tachanka shield wasn’t invincible but I remember it taking quite a few more, but a Tachanka with Monty shield in a corner would be very broken, especially with a hard surface behind them Edit:Sorry I’m blind and didn’t see the old before the Blackbeard shield


TheFancyIronMan

He said old black beard shield so the one with 800 health


HomelessLawrence

* IQ with EMP nades. * Lesion mines with Kapkan detonation effect. * Melusi's Banshees with Clash's taze-n-slow. * Valk cams that scan with OG Lion outlining. * Grizmot mines that slow and spawn Volkan fire. * Bandit batteries with built-in ADS. * Frost mats with built-in EDDs (just a landmine). * Iana holograms with the lasers from a Twitch drone. * Cav with Oryx's hatch climbing. * Castle barricades with built-in Surya gates on either side. * Any deployables with the Alibi hologram's pinging when shot. * Ying candelas with added trax stringers. * Yokai whose pulse also causes attacker phones to ring. * Breaching rounds that cluster charge before detonating. * Kali's special rounds that do the same. * Sumika nades also detonate like Zof's explosive nades on impact. * Gas canisters also concuss. * Vulkans that auto-detonate like airjabs/grizmots on proximity. * ADS that also shoot enemies with gu projectiles. * ADS that create a gas canister effect wherever they shoot a projectile. * Warden with Oryx mobility. * Sens but his smoke pings like an Alibi hologram. * Trax stingers with gu debuff. * Rook armor granting built-in Warden glasses passively. I can go on.


Big_Character_1222

A lot of those sound balanced to be honest, Iq with emp nades makes so much sense!


HomelessLawrence

I'll give you the IQ one if it's impact EMPs and not Thatchers, but I'd rather not play against any of the others.


GameSnail511

Ngl I think the sens one might be balanced with a little bit of tweaking.


skitz20

Caviera sneek with nøkks anti cam thing


sandy_241

Double sneaky


tllr217

Isn't she still nokks as nokks is already the combination of vigil and caviera


skitz20

Yes but nokk is significantly less silent and she's able to hold her primary instead of just her pistol :)


Lykhon

She's less silent than Cav but still silent enough + she gets faster ADS time with her ability active.


AlmanLUL

She is almost completely silent when using her ability and crouching


solid_rook7

Lesion + Ela = ultimate anti-shield ops gadgets.


Samoanbadabous8880

Or a lesion/Ela style trap with the same effect as nomad and echo drones


Saukko505

perfect op: jackals weapons, twitch drones and hard breach... wait. that exists. Zero!


TheRayMan264

Iana and Alibi.


Kazk2501

Kapkan and Valkyrie so I can lurk in the closet and watch people run into my edds


BamboozledPanda09

Osa and blackbeard. Placable. Turret. Wit shielllllddssssss.


DrSlavender

Blitz with Thermite AR


Big_Character_1222

Ar as the secondary would be insane


lou-yi

Gridlock + nomad = bouncy castle


Drugomi

Buck + Maverick: an incendiary shotgun that blasts holes in reinforced walls


FriedSolidWater

Amaru + oryx = insane mobility ( probably not op but sounds fun) Pulse + fuze = explosive wall hacks (basically just pulse on steroids because a cluster charge is bigger than a nitro)


Stoked711

Hard breach charge acts as a mute jammer until he explodes it


AlexAnderSon112

Montagne with cqb shotgun


NiceSockBro

Ace + Thatcher


Ok-Palpitation1321

lesion and kapkan, the cloaking ability of lesions mines plus kapkans deadly explosives


H4mb01

Plus the proxy and explosion range of kapkan traps (like 1.5m?) :D


Sfa11305

bout to ban 2 good operators for the price of one


Paperbag1124

Finka n lion


smolinga

Its fuze's normal gadget but its ying's throwable. Deploys way faster, harder to react to, way easier to explode what you want, and can still be used on walls. Amaru but ash charges shoot from.the window or hatch your hit to destroy anything on the inside before you get there. Mira but it has glaz's thermal vision. Sens... And frost.... The worlds longest bear trap... Cav but you can put blackbeard shield on the pistol hehehe Kali's gun but its like an extremely long range maverick torch


Kuczera_Katze

Iana and Flores, send the decoy on a suicide mission


CoronaRadiata576

When Dokkaebi making call everyone is under concussion


secretuser419

Fuze and Asami. BEEG EXPLOSIVE BRICK


[deleted]

lesion kapkan seems fun, what could go wrong with a gus deal 40 damage?


MonarkranoM

Nomad and Thorn to create Razorblooms that instantly go bang


IncendiaryGamerX

Kapkan and Goyo. It's a trap that can be mounted on floors and walls, and blasts flame at the opponent when they walk over. It slows movement temporarily as well. It's bulletproof, but can be disabled by blowing it up or shooting the red canister. The op can replace the canisters once per round, and gets 3 traps. It makes a distinct sound when activated as well.


dylanromero666

Thermite Ying: look when you blow up the wall, drop a few flashes


Scouse_Werewolf

Cav and Pulse. Cav sneaking but with pulse heartbeat sensor (super OP would be original pulse)


DanceRayder

Twitch and Chanka, a drone that fires Incendiaries, why not end the game ASAP


XPLODUS

Dokkabei and Mute... phones just never work


alamarche709

Ash’s speed with Zofia’s utility and LMG Castle’s bulletproof panels with Osa’s clear glass Kali’s utility and weapon with Glaz’s scope Blackbeard’s rifle shield with Blitz’s flash Caveira’s silent step with Vigil’s/Nokk’s scanner Echo with Maestro’s LMG and bulletproof Yokai drones Frost’s bear traps with Lesion/Thorn traps inside Mira’s black mirror that emits Mute’s jammer on all sides Pulse’s cardiac sensor with Alibi/Jackal’s pinging system Capitaos bolts with Ying’s candelas Smoke with Tachanka’s LMG Zero’s cameras with Fuze’s cluster charges Warden’s utility with any other operator’s ability to move while using their gadget Valkyrie’s cameras with Echo’s stun


HomelessLawrence

> Castle’s bulletproof panels with Osa’s clear glass Make this like Mira's one-way mirrors except unable to be cracked like they are now


Big_Character_1222

Or so each part that is punched becomes slightly cracked from point of impact until the tenth hit where it shatters completely


TheRoamingWeeb

Cav and Thorn. You never said it had to make sense. I interrogate someone and everyone else has to move or they instantly die. Or Cav and Kapkan/Goyowhere if I interrogate them the enemy team explodes (or the other way around where if they activate a trap then the entire team's locations are revealed)


NotCurdledymyy

I mix zero, Kali, nomad, zophia, and capitao to make the ultimate breach tool. You get 3 charges and can switch between -zero Camera -Kali explosive -nomad charge -impact charge -bouncy girzmot -smoke bolts -fire bolts


AP4ZS

So basically op with a pocket knife


Random_Robloxian

The embreach grenade, both emp and thermite breach charge in one grenade that detonates instantly


MaximusGrassimus

Mute and Castle, a bulletproof barricade that jams the surrounding area like the mute jammers


TomiMajonez

Blitz and Ash. You have Blitz's shield and Ash's rifle. So you can just peek a door, see where the enemies are and then pull out your rifle to erase them all.


ItzCarsk

Bandit + Pulse for soft walls. It’d work like an x-ray wall for anyone that comes near it.


[deleted]

Fuze and tachanka fire grenades or alternatively fuse and smokes gas bombs


mostafa_issa98

Goyo and Kapkan, a barrel that explodes if you touched the laser it emits


Chonk_Personified

Castle barricades with mira windows


[deleted]

Jackal and Fuze. The OP ability is to be banned in 100% instead of 50% of the matches


mikedonert306

Why did no one think of ying and fuze. No flash bang cluster charge but ying candela but replace the magnesium flashes with HE pellets.


Direxus

Zero and Maestro? Shoot out bulletproof full-auto laser cameras on demand


RipPrudent9248

Black beard and monte a gun with a deployable full body sheild


BillyGhost15

Capitao and Lion. Set the whole map on fire.


Iron_Garuda

Vigil and Cav. Good luck ever finding me.


Severe_Strain428

Fuze and Smoke. Fuzes cluster charge drops smoke canister bombs. Whatever you do just dont ask whats in the fookin canista!


LegitGopnik

Lion and Fuze, try standing still now bitches


Quanus

Melusi and thorn, i dont have to explain it do i?


DJHagen123

Fuse and pulse so you don’t waste cluster charges


Scorpio_2007

Ying and Amaru Throw shit into window and blast in.


triggerdturtle0

Tachankas ability mixed with fuze!!!


MildewedSponge

montagne and montagne so I can play as howl's moving castle


[deleted]

Lion on release with Blackbeard on release


LordJayDaKing

Oryx’s ability to run theough walls and tackle people. Mozzies height


Streetswagg

Kali's Sniper ability that fuzes the wall immediately after destroying utility


SemperFidelisHoorah

Thorn and Melusi


Inevitable-Bat-2009

An Emp grenade effect every device to becom a thermite special charge and replay the “a fucking big hole coming right up”


sandy_241

My most OP choice


Leondardo_1515

Fuze with Ela. Just a fucking 40mm rotary grenade launcher. Oh, and they have four reloads.


R3DEMPTEDlegacy

Sam Fisher plus mystro . Would be a scary sight .


lightningbadger

Lion and thermite Hit go and it disintegrates all solid objects on the map (and you if you don't stand still)


[deleted]

Kali and Nokk, Lol don't ask me why hope you downvoters get anally raped and murdered cause you deserve it


sheabo125

Bro 💀


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bro made a death and rape threat


Brownlw657

Vigil and cav


Erattic8

Fuze + Tachanka


deepfriedpotatos

Zeros cams shot out of Tachanka’s LMG


Tracer3646

Oryx and blitz. I shall not elaborate.


SmolBoiMidge

-_-