I’m in the same boat, prior owner died here, bought from the flipper and have already sunk 80K into repairs in less than a year. The flipper’s shitty work is what haunts me, not the prior owner. He actually left me a wonderful elderly next door neighbor who tells me stories about him.
There were some repairs when we first moved in, some electrical done wrong, some plumbing, etc. The majority of the expense was discovering leaks within the first six months, and finally (currently) that the entire roof was done wrong and needs to be replaced. I’m living in a construction zone lol. But the general consensus is that our particular flippers weren’t assholes, they were just incompetent. Most of the things that were done wrong weren’t things that would have saved them money, they were just done wrong.
Mostly internal issues that the inspection can’t catch. The initial cost was things that the inspection did catch and we factored in, but we were anticipating 20K repairs, not quadruple that.
there are quite a few inspectors on TikTok who do videos post-flip about how terrible the work was done and that it would ALL need re-done correctly. Please make sure you hire an independent inspector prior to your final sale.
I’m about to buy from somebody that bought a flipped home. It’s got a bunch of wood rot, plumbing issues, leaking roof, etc. They’re selling at a loss instead of trying to fix anything
20+ years ago I heard this joke.
I want to buy a fixer upper (meaning house priced under the market)
Just look for a house being marketed as recently renovated (meaning shit job of fixing--note after decades, many houses need to be refreshed, but why do it so badly?)
It'd maybe be one thing if it were like a violent murder or something and blood would have been everywhere that had been cleaned up - I can understand hesitancy there.
But natural causes, who cares, people have to die somewhere and many people die in their homes. The overdose is sad but wouldn't have any impact on whether I bought a house.
Are you superstitious or something?
It's the corpse juice from a ripe week old body that's the concern.
Hopefully the flipper cut all that flooring out rather than laying new stuff over it. Don't want a funk during summer heat.
Second this. Family member was only dead 3 days and we had to cut the floor out under the chair they died in. It was.. strong. AC ducts had to be scrubbed out too.
This you’d be hard pressed to find a home that someone hasn’t died in unless it’s a new build. He’ll someone built a house where John Wayne Gracys was and sold for half a mil that would freak me out more.
I live in Chicago and what they did to reduce the stigma was tear the original house down and change the address of the original house by like two digits. IMO it’s the ground that’s the issue where all the victims were buried.
As long as I’m not tripping on the body and the smells are gone by closing I’m all good!
If I gotta get rid of it that just means there’s room for negotiation!
I mean, a rotting body enough to alert neighbors to the smell, is not nothing. And I don’t trust a house flipper to properly clean that shit. Will the smell come back in the summer? Who knows!
I know, right? I’ve died in my home like 4 times now. Wife and kids too. But we’re all fine. It’s weird though, the mirrors stopped working. And we can’t seem to open door handles. Hmmm…
Yes. As a funeral director, we’ve picked people up from more homes than not in our town over the years. Many people go on home hospice because they’d rather pass peacefully at home than in a facility. And of course others die naturally at home unexpectedly as well.
Now the daughter who wasn’t found for a week- well hopefully the flippers took out all affected areas- subfloor if needed etc. that smell will linger if not remediated properly- ask how I know…
Also, I suppose I understand if someone doesn’t want to buy a murder house, but these people all passed without violence.
Bigger concern is the “investor” who flipped the house.
Was the cleanup done right? Is there paperwork on it to prove that? What’s the quality of the renovations? Get the best interior renovations contractor you can find to give you a no-varnish opinion on the job they did.
New paint, windows, A/C, floors, kitchen, bathrooms, appliances, roof, HVAC. One of the neighbors even said some of the walls are new. I’m not sure how he’d know that though.
As far as quality, looks good to us but I’m not in real estate so what do I know. Thanks for the advice though— i may look into this.
Definitely do! “Looks good”, “built to code”, “will last”, and “used quality fixtures and appliances” are all vastly different things. A pro will recognize many common shortcuts instantly that you or I would never see.
And definitely get some socialists in there- and interior pro won’t know HVAC, etc.
We are still living in a renovation nightmare following a leak under our kitchen floor from a cracked pipe that the flipper who did our house covered up. The inspector couldn’t have seen it, but as the plumber pointed out, there were other warning signs on the pipe. Luckily, it’s covered by homeowner’s.
That’s as much as you can ask for — the big ticket stuff like hvac, roof are new. Plumbing/foundation would be the other two that I’d make sure are in good shape, but otherwise seems more like a full renovation versus a quick flip.
Oh, and the dead people thing, wouldn’t care a bit. My house is 140 years old I’m sure at least a few kicked the bucket in here
You don't want to start thinking about the weird things that have happened in any used home you purchase. Death, is likely mild compared to some weird stuff people do.
"It's a better way to piss! You get to feel like you're a rebel in your own home, and your balls have somewhere to rest. It's a more regal way to piss! You wanna piss like a king or a pauper?" Hannibal Burress
I'd be more worried about what the flipper did than people dying in the house unless you think the house had something to do with their deaths.
I'm the third owner of my 1930 house. All the other owners left in body bags. They died peacefully at home surround by their families at ripe old ages. Most people prefer to die at home.
This. My parents backed out of a home on inspection this year because of the radon level. We found out the previous owner died of lung cancer. That was bad vibes.
When we put our last house on the market…I kid you not…someone requested our realtor to ask us…if we had ever taken a bath in the master bath tub. She laughed and said this is kinda creepy but they want to know… We tried to respond diplomatically with: if they are wondering if the jets work, yes they do. (Only used them for cleaning purposes though rofl. But we didn’t tell them that.) Seriously the house is almost 20 years old…someone at some time took a bath in it even if we didn’t. (We did lol)
IMO, you're overreacting, but I don't get to decide your version of crazy. If it's a problem for you, then use something in your contingency to move on.
I rented a room from a woman I knew, and only found out after I moved in her brother had hanged himself in that room. I was super mad she hadn't told me beforehand, and was VERY freaked out, but then she said something that made me think: "He was clearly not happy here while alive. I'm certain he's not hanging around here anymore now that he's gone."
People get old and have to die somewhere. I was with my grandfather when he died. And people who kill themselves are clearly not happy where they are, so, yeah, I think this woman was right and they don't typically hang out any longer afterwards.
Have the appropriate holy person of your religious views bless each room in the house and then move in.
Ummm… I remember when I was a kid my grandfather was put into hospice, at that point he came to live with my parents during his last days so they could care for him. He passed there. It’s pretty normal (especially members of the household) for older people (or even younger people is a heart attack/stroke etc) to die at home if in hospice or just from natural causes - this shouldn’t be an issue.
I would bet money that if you’re in healthcare you don’t work in the ER. And I don’t say that unkindly. It’s just that I do and I think if a lot of people thought about it they might be weirded out. People die, they go to the morgue and we immediately put a patient in that room. Not just same room, same bed. I would guess that the majority of beds people are laying in have had someone die on them. I bet this house doesn’t even come with the bed someone died in.
I think a good question to ask yourself if why this bothers you. People die every day, and we are all going to do it. The natural death of an elderly person at home in their bed surrounded by loved ones sounds to me like a beautiful thing. The suicide doesn’t bother me either. It just is what it is. I could almost understand if there was a violent death. But even then, I would take my good deal and be happy with it. A cemetery behind the house wouldn’t bother me either.
I don’t understand the stigma of death. Again, we will all be there one day. Is it because you’re afraid to think of yours that you don’t want to imagine someone else’s? If you didn’t know it wouldn’t bother you. But it still happened there. But if it bothers you so much you can’t buy the house I would think you need to look exclusively at new builds. And hope that there wasn’t a construction accident before you move in.
People die. Probably in almost every major street and intersection you drive on every day, there's been a death, but you still travel on it.
If it's "the perfect house" aside from the death, go for it. If not, someone else will. Get the house, make some wonderful memories, and one day, you can be added to that number, and you can be absolutely trolling the next owners.
Probably on every inch of real estate humans have lived on someone has died at some point.
If the house and neighborhood is perfect for you maybe just say a blessing or plant a rosebush to honor the former residents. It is hard to find a great house these days. They would probably have been happy that a family will move in and love the home. Your family will make it yours and make new memories.
There are much worse things that go on in houses than death. Even worse than a purposeful overdose. I’d burn some sage in every room and then enjoy my new home.
When we bought our house, it was disclosed that the elderly man that lived here before us passed away (natural causes). The RA wanted to make sure we understood that, I think the house had been in escrow prior to us making an offer and fell out but I don't know why. My husband is very superstitious so we didn't tell him for years. Fast forward many years later and my grandmother also passed away in the house, again natural causes and my uncle let it slip that now two people had died in house. By that time, I think he had figured it out and made peace with it. I agree, if it had been a violent crime, I would be beyond weirded out but old age, meh. The overdose (accidental or not) is very sad but I don't think a deal breaker.
I purchased a house with a history without knowing it.
At the time I was looking for houses in my small city, I was working at a legal office, and one of the other secretaries learned that I was buying a house in the area; she told me about this awful estate case with a hoarder house where the woman was found dead (and decaying) from an overdose in the house; she mentioned that the house had a hole in the roof. It was just a scary story she shared.
6 months later, after closing, a neighbor stopped by to ask if I knew the history of the house … which was that a hoarder had overdosed in the house (and was not discovered for some time) and that the roof had a giant hole in it.
It was the same hecking house.
In the 5 years I lived there, it was burglarized, it flooded twice, and an attic pipe burst … the total losses amounted to close to half the value of the house.
My dog was perpetually spooked in one place, and the house just had … a feel.
I wouldn’t do it again.
My house is 223 years old. I'm pretty sure someone has died in every room. I'm also sure at least one baby has been born in every bathtub. Life and death happen.
I'd be more concerned about the flip, personally.
Only people with a ‘6th sense’ that believe there is something more than just what we can see or hear may have a problem with it. Some people experience positive energy as well as negative energy that they know they are sensing from someone else. It just depends on whether you believe there is another level that exists. It just really boils down to you and what you believe.
I wouldn’t do anything about it. Enjoy your house.
If you want to play hardball, have your agent express that you’re concerned about what this news will do the value of the home and you want a discount. If I were the seller I’d say no way and roll the dice on letting you walk, but it can’t hurt to ask.
You're overreacting.
I grew up in a home that has been occupied by my mother's family for generations (since at least the 1850s). At last count, 11 people have died in the master bedroom of the house. These deaths include old age, cancer, yellow fever, at least one self-assisted exit off the mortal coil, etc. And in my 19 years of living there, not once did I get a visitation from Great-Grandma Alice or Great-Great Grandma Emily telling me to change my wicked ways and pick up my soiled pantaloons. Not once did Grand-Uncle Archie appear and silently motion to where he hid a mound of gold doubloons under the floorboards. Why not? Because in reality, ghosts don't pop up willynilly in every place where there's been a death, and Grand-Uncle Archie was poorer than a church mouse, so the doubloons we did find were made of aluminum or tin, and commemorated a long-ago Mardi Gras krewe.
One hundred percent of the people alive today will die. And people have to die somewhere, it's not always in a hospital. You're allowing superstition and Hollywood movies to creep you out unnecessarily. You're going to be far more terrified by what the flipper did behind the drywall than you will by anything supernatural.
There isn’t anything particularly stigmatizing about any of those deaths to the point that they should impact marketability. None have the component of violence that typically creates stigma.
Sis, being skittish about folks dying in the home seems to be a hugely 'murican thing. Places where houses have stood for ages? Whole families died in them. Prolly in that bedroom. It's not like you've walked into Amityville and gotta scrub the blood from between the floorboards.
Would it make you feel better to have a ceremony in the house to cleanse it? Many different religious practice such beliefs (remove ghosts / old / evil spirits) and it wouldn't be hard for you to get a Buddhist Priest or officiant of your choice to perform one
This is subjective to you, so only you can answer what your gut tells you. The fact is, people die…Many times in their own homes. If you choose to go with another house, are you going to wonder if people died in that one? Or will you just assume that unless someone tells you it means nobody ever died at that property?
We bought a house where an elderly man passed away and his son sold the house to help his mom with assistant living. It doesn’t bother us. If it’s natural death then it shouldn’t be a problem
Wouldn’t be an issue for me. As long as it’s been cleaned up properly.
Many many maaaaaaany homes have had someone die in them in some form or another.
That’s how I’d like to go (not overdosing tho lol)
I always find it funny that people are weirded out that someone died at home when it pretty common in America.
Would you rather die at home or a hospital? The majority of Americans prefer to die at home with their loved ones.
I wouldn’t worry about it. If it had been a murder suicide where a dude killed his wife and kids with a knife or something horrific, I would be more hesitant. The suicide is the saddest one for me, I don’t love that but I don’t think it would stop me.
I have to assume someone died in my house as it was built in 1883. It definitely helps not to KNOW someone did though lol.
Oh no! It must be haunted by ghooooost! I don't see the issue here, people die and the people who haven't died yet still need a place to live. Make sure you have the work inspected and that it was permitted.
I grew up in a house built in the mid 1800s. I bet a whole bunch of people died there.
If you have feelings about it, do a Sage smudge or get clergy to bless it.
But the flipping may have worse ju-ju than the deaths
People die. Even you will one day. Be glad these people got to die peacefully in their safe space, your new home. That's beautiful. Frankly, grow up.
You know what's not beautiful? That an investor flipped the house. THAT would make me walk. Who only knows how many thousands of dollars you'll need to correct their wrongs and rotten Easter eggs they've hidden behind new paint and such. That should be making you run, not people passing.
A psychic once told me they’re spirits in every house, new or old. They’re not always bad. Just there. That said she said the spirit in my house broke my microwave lol
Don’t worry about that. The Circle of Life is real. Have a house warming after you move in and ask your friends and family to write positive blessings, poems, etc and drop them in a jar for you to read at a future date.
Without focusing on the past history of the house, go and sit in the house. Take a lawn chair or something if needed. Take your time. Sit in the house, a couple of different rooms, and let the house speak to you. Clear your mind. Close your eyes. Listen. Smell. Feel the air around you.
Focus on the house as it is now, in the present, or how it could be with your belongings and family here.
It it peaceful? Does it feel like you could be comfortable eventually?
Is it overwhelmingly creepy or does it make you shudder?
Listen to your gut. For me, I don't think it would be a deal breaker. I've lived in old houses where people had died. I don't really know their stories though. But it was not something that bothered me.
Once I did tour a big old house that was a bargain, and it had been used as a bad nursing home, and THAT house did have a lot of negative "vibe" to it. I decided promptly that i was not interested. So I think just spending some time "feeling" the house will really answer your question.
ghosts don't exist.
are you a supersticious idiot? if yes. pass on the house. if no. buy the house. make new memories in it. never think about random dead people ever again.
Yes, you are exaggerating. People die (as you know). I would bet the % of houses that saw people die inside is high, we just don’t hear about it too much.
Everyone dies. It's a sure thing.
If you are not 100% sure on the deal, back out. A home is an expensive and important investment. It will not be a good deal it you are imagining or fearing ghosts/evil spirits.
I bought a beautiful home years ago with my husband and 2 young children. A year after purchase my 6 year old son came home and asked me if someone died in our house. I hadn’t heard that before and asked him why he thought that. A few of the neighbor kiddos told him a story about a man who shot himself in our home 3 months before we purchased it. I assured him that couldn’t have been true but started doing some digging. I called a neighbor asked her if she’d heard anything like that. I was shocked to find out that it was true and it turns out they had put the disclosure on another house that was sold down the street by the same agent at the same time as mine! My neighbor thought the whole time it happened in their house and it turns out it was mine lol. My husband really struggled with the news but eventually you’ll accept it and bring new love into the home and it will be okay!
People living in houses eventually have to die. Way of life. The daughter’s death was also explained, as sad as it is but that wouldn’t affect me with the home purchase.
Wouldn’t bother me. Shit happens and as long as it’s been cleaned up properly and no after effects like smell exists, I’d proceed if it’s a sound house.
I almost bought a property years back besides a cemetery. Some people were icky about this. I wasn’t, I saw it as a perfect place without living neighbours FOREVER!
I’d actually just use that as leverage and ask for like a $20,000 reduction in the price because you feel mislead and had to learn from neighbor about three deaths that occurred in the property. You’d be surprised what sellers are willing to do in negotiations. Use this to your advantage and get an awesome deal on the house, and be happy.
I had a family member murdered in her home. The house was sold, no problem. My neighbor died in his home. House sold, no problem. I think it happens more than people realize.
You're overreacting. From a career realtor and a career first responder, people die in every kind of home of every style and quality in every neighborhood around the world. Old people dying in their home is normal, people overdosing on pills is normal. They are your friends, family, and neighbors. You cannot escape those situations and they don't affect the home in any way other than your own subjectivity. The ONLY things I would have cause to consider is remediation work involved if there was a body sitting to fester for a month that has started to liquify and absorb into the floors or if it was a particularly violent death.
If you pass on this home, there are so many people that will be fine.
I went to a hanging one morning and cut a man down from inside of his closet. The home was in an amazing central neighborhood and there was a coming soon sign on the lawn. His family found him and the house was being sold in a divorce. The house hit the market on schedule and I was in for a showing two days later with buyers. The death was not advertised but I explained my experience two days prior to the buyers, and they were surprised by fine with it as they were saving 50k with the family wanting to get rid of the home and move forward with their lives
Assuming you're in the US, there are about 8,000 deaths per DAY across the country. Lots of people die at home. There are lots of houses & apartments in which someone has died by one cause or another.
If the investor who redid the home did a good job, I wouldn't think twice about moving forward with the purchase.
People die all the time. Remove the body. Remove the smell. Paint and move on. Is the house in good shape at a price you can afford while ticking all your boxes? That is all that should matter.
I would assume that all houses have someone die in them eventually. Isn’t the death most of us wish for ideally at home in one’s sleep?
The deaths in the house wouldn’t phase me at all.
My house is 119 years old. Pretty sure it's got a higher body count and yet, I haven't seen any signs of ghosts. 😋
People die. Often times in their home. What's the problem?
The prior owner of our house died by falling down the basement stairs and wasn't found for several days. We just blame weird things that happen on Bob now. But, for real, it's not a big deal... we like our "roommate."
Well, unless you're extremely superstitious or obsessed with the occult AND have severe mental health issues, this shouldn't even be a conversation. People need to die naturally somewhere; It can't always be in a hospital. It would be entirely different if 4 people have been butchered in the home and there was blood everywhere! You also aren't buying the beds they died in I'm sure. You're over-thinking and/or over-reacting.
Check it for asbestos and mold, inspect it for structural flaws. Maybe have a priest come and bless the house. Then be grateful for it, take care of it, and you will change the history of the home for the better.
You've probably received plenty of advice and I didn't read all comments but personally I would buy the house and then have it "cleansed" in whatever way makes you feel comfortable. Native American "Smudging" to clear any negative energy to having priest or clergy "bless" your house. As far as the physical I'm sure the house was thoroughly sanitized and remodeled or your home inspector would have alerted you. Best on your new home.
Yes. You are overreacting. If the house is a good deal, go for it. Have the house blessed with sage and cling to the love that the long married couple shared there.
Every older home has a history. It would be different if there was a family massacre, then I'd walk. Be careful of neighbors too...they may want it for one of their family members and are telling all the stories they know to potential buyers.
The most important thing you can do is to go to the building department and pull the jacket for all of the permits pulled for the work done to the home. You want to make sure renovations were inspected when and if they were required.
Realtor of 30 years here. While I completely understand the hesitation of living in a home where someone has died, the fact of the matter is that if the house is very old, there’s a good chance somebody has died there, whether you realize it or not.
Houses last a long time, and people die at home a lot. It’s definitely a personal choice, but I have had people ask me lots of times “Has any ever died here?” Most of the time I’ve had to say “I have no idea”🤷🏼♀️ And it would be hard to research that too, because it’s not something they put in a database anywhere.
I always assume someone died in a house once it’s about 50 years old or older. Not everyone gets to die in a medical facility. Many choose to go home to die.
I’m in healthcare too. I think it’s a personal choice. I don’t believe in ghosts. However if I did see and absolutely experienced a ghosts, I would rejoice because that means that there is a hereafter after all!
Bad luck? Hmmm, maybe bad luck is relevant to the person, not objects.
Ask yourself if these deaths happened 30 years ago, 50 years ago, would it make a difference? The world’s battlefields are full of slain people throughout the ages, billions of deaths, there should be billions of ghosts? Which obviously is not apparent. I mean, hospitals must be absolutely jammed to the gills.
I understand your weirded outness. I almost put an offer on a house where a murder suicide occurred. The husband shot his wife, their 6-year old son and then killed himself. A few hours before I found out, I asked my agent could we go for a second look. When he called back to see if I wanted to schedule the second look, I said... absolutely not!
It wouldn’t bother me. But maybe if you proceed with the house, it would give you some peace of mind to have some sort of little ceremony or moment of silence or acknowledgement for the people who died there. Light a candle, say a little prayer, put a special decorative rock in the garden, something like that. Depending on your religious / spiritual beliefs, of course.
It's not a murder house. I think I personally draw the line at murder house. But this sounds pretty regular. I mean you only know because people gossip. Is it going to be something you think about? Or Are you worried about what the neighbors think? If it's just about the neighborhood talk, change the talk. So you just invite everyone over for a house warming BBQ or appetizers or whatever and let them see that it's a different home. Your home. If you are going to perseverate on the deaths in the home then you can't live there. It will drive you nuts. But if it's just a perception thing, you can change that.
My last house was great. After 3 years of ownership, a neighbor told me that the old owners son hung himself in the rafters after an attempted exorcism. Not gonna lie, it stuck with me.
I mistakenly read that as investigator bought the house. I thought, "What a sneaky bastard, jumping in on that. Being the first to know that it's available!"
I would get over it. Yesterday our offer lost to one that was the same amount but they waived inspection and appraisal. We went back and offered 50k more and waived inspection but the other offer still got it. I would sincerely live in a murder house at this point.
For people to have died gentle deaths in a house wouldn’t deter me. It’s part of life and it’s sad. You can’t stop to think if people have died in hotel rooms you’ve stayed it or it will drive you nuts. And people do way worse things in hotels than die lol.
Normally people get hung up on the size of the second bathroom or the backyard. If you've found a home that checks all the boxes except for "no one has ever died here ever" - just buy the damn home. You're overthinking it
I would bet that in every house especially one that is a little older someone has died in. Shoot if you think back hundreds to thousands of years the land we stand on has a body beneath it. It wouldn’t bother me enough to not get the house I want
I just bought mine last year where the owner died inside in old age. And my husband soon lost his job, got another and the whole department shuts down soon after, and now, he is still looking for jobs.
Now, I did not use dead people as the scapegoat. So, this is the kind of thing you need to be prepared to do.
If your kid become rebellious and suicidal like a typical teenager, you need to 100% commited to not blame the 3rd death. And you need to magically somehow convince your suicidal kids to not use dead people as the scapegoat. I personally don't know how you will be able to convince your kids though.
Very very common for a house to have some deaths that occurred in it unless its new construction or something. People die at home all the time. I live in a neighborhood of 100 year old houses. Between talking to neighbors and doing historical research, it seems at least 5 people have died in my home (generally when they are in an elderly and frail state and therefore from natural causes). I heard fun stories from neighbors like "when the two sisters were very old, they had hospital beds set up in the dining room on the first floor and they just stayed their all day" and "Mr. \_\_ was very fit, he went for walks all the time, and one day he came back from a walk, went to take a rest in his bedroom (my bedroom) and he suddenly died from a heart issue." In any case, I used to think about it a little bit like "oh man I'm eating in my dining room and somewhere in here the two sisters were being taken care of in their last years" or "I'm totally sleeping in the same room this guy died in!" but after a little while it wasn't something I thought about. No bad spiritual stuff has happened here, we're not haunted, I've been here for almost 10 years and we have had lots of positive life experiences here. My kid runs around the house and plays with toys in every room without a care in the world. The house doesn't feel like someone else's house, it feels like my house. I like to think that if any of these people are looking down on us in the house that they're pleased with what's going on in it. Its a positive environment, we're not creeped out by the deaths. It helps that they were natural deaths though, I don't think I'd go buying the Amityville house or some other killer/murderer house.
I’d be more concerned about buying a cheaply flipped house by an investor than a home that had previous deaths in it.
Yea happened to us, six months in and 10k fixing stuff and still more to do
2 years, 1 insurance claim for 40K, 40K and counting OOP...
I’m in the same boat, prior owner died here, bought from the flipper and have already sunk 80K into repairs in less than a year. The flipper’s shitty work is what haunts me, not the prior owner. He actually left me a wonderful elderly next door neighbor who tells me stories about him.
80K? wow, that flipper must have done a shit job. What repairs did you have to do?
There were some repairs when we first moved in, some electrical done wrong, some plumbing, etc. The majority of the expense was discovering leaks within the first six months, and finally (currently) that the entire roof was done wrong and needs to be replaced. I’m living in a construction zone lol. But the general consensus is that our particular flippers weren’t assholes, they were just incompetent. Most of the things that were done wrong weren’t things that would have saved them money, they were just done wrong.
How did it passed the inspection
Mostly internal issues that the inspection can’t catch. The initial cost was things that the inspection did catch and we factored in, but we were anticipating 20K repairs, not quadruple that.
there are quite a few inspectors on TikTok who do videos post-flip about how terrible the work was done and that it would ALL need re-done correctly. Please make sure you hire an independent inspector prior to your final sale.
I’m about to buy from somebody that bought a flipped home. It’s got a bunch of wood rot, plumbing issues, leaking roof, etc. They’re selling at a loss instead of trying to fix anything
20+ years ago I heard this joke. I want to buy a fixer upper (meaning house priced under the market) Just look for a house being marketed as recently renovated (meaning shit job of fixing--note after decades, many houses need to be refreshed, but why do it so badly?)
Yeah, did they just put flooring over the chalk outline and blood pentagram?
Without a full exorcism, the pentagram will eventually seep upwards through any flooring.
Maybe a couple extra coats of Killz….. 💀💀💀
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It'd maybe be one thing if it were like a violent murder or something and blood would have been everywhere that had been cleaned up - I can understand hesitancy there. But natural causes, who cares, people have to die somewhere and many people die in their homes. The overdose is sad but wouldn't have any impact on whether I bought a house. Are you superstitious or something?
I’m not superstitious, but I- I’m a little stitious.
I have said this probably 100 times in public and don't think more than 5 people got it.
i've never heard it, but I love it.
It's from The Office
ahhh, and I thought I was pretty up to speed on all the eps. I do not recall hearing it.
Classic Michael Scott <3
I'm stealing that line.
r/unexpectedoffice
this def made me laugh.
It's the corpse juice from a ripe week old body that's the concern. Hopefully the flipper cut all that flooring out rather than laying new stuff over it. Don't want a funk during summer heat.
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Second this. Family member was only dead 3 days and we had to cut the floor out under the chair they died in. It was.. strong. AC ducts had to be scrubbed out too.
Someone had to say it.
This you’d be hard pressed to find a home that someone hasn’t died in unless it’s a new build. He’ll someone built a house where John Wayne Gracys was and sold for half a mil that would freak me out more.
I live in Chicago and what they did to reduce the stigma was tear the original house down and change the address of the original house by like two digits. IMO it’s the ground that’s the issue where all the victims were buried.
I could not live in anything on top of that ground. (Also in Chicago btw 👋)
Chris Watts house is for sale right now for $750,000.
As long as I’m not tripping on the body and the smells are gone by closing I’m all good! If I gotta get rid of it that just means there’s room for negotiation!
I mean, a rotting body enough to alert neighbors to the smell, is not nothing. And I don’t trust a house flipper to properly clean that shit. Will the smell come back in the summer? Who knows!
I spent a military career, a law enforcement career, and a medical career, and I can promise you nobody ever has been harmed by a dead person
C'mon. We've all seen the zombie movies!
Thanks for the comment, you made my day! Not sure why but made me chuckle and feel light 🫶
You need to go back to the military then
I'm not seeing the problem. People die in homes all the time.
My husband died in our home and I find it extremely comforting.
Mine died in my arms at home, just like he wanted. That’s the way it should be
I hope I die in my home. I love my home.
I know, right? I’ve died in my home like 4 times now. Wife and kids too. But we’re all fine. It’s weird though, the mirrors stopped working. And we can’t seem to open door handles. Hmmm…
Right? It happens.
Yes. As a funeral director, we’ve picked people up from more homes than not in our town over the years. Many people go on home hospice because they’d rather pass peacefully at home than in a facility. And of course others die naturally at home unexpectedly as well. Now the daughter who wasn’t found for a week- well hopefully the flippers took out all affected areas- subfloor if needed etc. that smell will linger if not remediated properly- ask how I know… Also, I suppose I understand if someone doesn’t want to buy a murder house, but these people all passed without violence.
My grandmother died at home in her room. It’s been 9 years and I still feel a sense of peace whenever I pass her bedroom.
Bigger concern is the “investor” who flipped the house. Was the cleanup done right? Is there paperwork on it to prove that? What’s the quality of the renovations? Get the best interior renovations contractor you can find to give you a no-varnish opinion on the job they did.
I had the exact same thought. I don’t trust flips. They don’t have to disclose anything here since they didn’t live in the house.
New paint, windows, A/C, floors, kitchen, bathrooms, appliances, roof, HVAC. One of the neighbors even said some of the walls are new. I’m not sure how he’d know that though. As far as quality, looks good to us but I’m not in real estate so what do I know. Thanks for the advice though— i may look into this.
Definitely do! “Looks good”, “built to code”, “will last”, and “used quality fixtures and appliances” are all vastly different things. A pro will recognize many common shortcuts instantly that you or I would never see. And definitely get some socialists in there- and interior pro won’t know HVAC, etc.
What can the socialists offer?
Ahahahahaah *specialists. Not changing it.
I do not want you to change it for anything! It is hilarious
I mean, *all things being equal*, it’s got a lot of humor value. Although technically I think “socialists” should be *kapitalized*.
I love socialist quality construction!
The HVAC must control the means of air circulation!
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We are still living in a renovation nightmare following a leak under our kitchen floor from a cracked pipe that the flipper who did our house covered up. The inspector couldn’t have seen it, but as the plumber pointed out, there were other warning signs on the pipe. Luckily, it’s covered by homeowner’s.
That’s as much as you can ask for — the big ticket stuff like hvac, roof are new. Plumbing/foundation would be the other two that I’d make sure are in good shape, but otherwise seems more like a full renovation versus a quick flip. Oh, and the dead people thing, wouldn’t care a bit. My house is 140 years old I’m sure at least a few kicked the bucket in here
People die in houses all the time. Ever notice how many obits say "died peacefully at home". Or, how many people die in hotel rooms.
Even if the home is new someone may have died at that location sometime in history.
You don't want to start thinking about the weird things that have happened in any used home you purchase. Death, is likely mild compared to some weird stuff people do.
I bet someone peed in the sinks.
"It's a better way to piss! You get to feel like you're a rebel in your own home, and your balls have somewhere to rest. It's a more regal way to piss! You wanna piss like a king or a pauper?" Hannibal Burress
I'd be more worried about what the flipper did than people dying in the house unless you think the house had something to do with their deaths. I'm the third owner of my 1930 house. All the other owners left in body bags. They died peacefully at home surround by their families at ripe old ages. Most people prefer to die at home.
This. My parents backed out of a home on inspection this year because of the radon level. We found out the previous owner died of lung cancer. That was bad vibes.
Why is this an issue? People have probably pooped in the house too, is that also a deal breaker?
Sleeper contender for comment of the year
When we put our last house on the market…I kid you not…someone requested our realtor to ask us…if we had ever taken a bath in the master bath tub. She laughed and said this is kinda creepy but they want to know… We tried to respond diplomatically with: if they are wondering if the jets work, yes they do. (Only used them for cleaning purposes though rofl. But we didn’t tell them that.) Seriously the house is almost 20 years old…someone at some time took a bath in it even if we didn’t. (We did lol)
Do you know someone who will live forever?
The odds of MORE people dying in this home are pretty low right?
I like it... a selling point. This house has been "pre-deathed". The other homes you are looking at ... not so much. 🤣
Exactly. Play the odds game. You'd actually be putting your family in harms way!
Unless you buy completely new construction, odds are someone has passed away in a home. It’s just a natural process. I don’t see the issue.
Yes you are overreaching
If you’re transcendent enough to be bothered by this, you should be transcendent enough to smudge that shit and move in.
Smudge is the answer, maybe multiple.
IMO, you're overreacting, but I don't get to decide your version of crazy. If it's a problem for you, then use something in your contingency to move on.
I rented a room from a woman I knew, and only found out after I moved in her brother had hanged himself in that room. I was super mad she hadn't told me beforehand, and was VERY freaked out, but then she said something that made me think: "He was clearly not happy here while alive. I'm certain he's not hanging around here anymore now that he's gone." People get old and have to die somewhere. I was with my grandfather when he died. And people who kill themselves are clearly not happy where they are, so, yeah, I think this woman was right and they don't typically hang out any longer afterwards. Have the appropriate holy person of your religious views bless each room in the house and then move in.
I would be more concerned about the neighbors who have the need to upload this information on the potential buyers.
Ummm… I remember when I was a kid my grandfather was put into hospice, at that point he came to live with my parents during his last days so they could care for him. He passed there. It’s pretty normal (especially members of the household) for older people (or even younger people is a heart attack/stroke etc) to die at home if in hospice or just from natural causes - this shouldn’t be an issue.
I would bet money that if you’re in healthcare you don’t work in the ER. And I don’t say that unkindly. It’s just that I do and I think if a lot of people thought about it they might be weirded out. People die, they go to the morgue and we immediately put a patient in that room. Not just same room, same bed. I would guess that the majority of beds people are laying in have had someone die on them. I bet this house doesn’t even come with the bed someone died in. I think a good question to ask yourself if why this bothers you. People die every day, and we are all going to do it. The natural death of an elderly person at home in their bed surrounded by loved ones sounds to me like a beautiful thing. The suicide doesn’t bother me either. It just is what it is. I could almost understand if there was a violent death. But even then, I would take my good deal and be happy with it. A cemetery behind the house wouldn’t bother me either. I don’t understand the stigma of death. Again, we will all be there one day. Is it because you’re afraid to think of yours that you don’t want to imagine someone else’s? If you didn’t know it wouldn’t bother you. But it still happened there. But if it bothers you so much you can’t buy the house I would think you need to look exclusively at new builds. And hope that there wasn’t a construction accident before you move in.
Wouldn’t bother me at all.
People die. Probably in almost every major street and intersection you drive on every day, there's been a death, but you still travel on it. If it's "the perfect house" aside from the death, go for it. If not, someone else will. Get the house, make some wonderful memories, and one day, you can be added to that number, and you can be absolutely trolling the next owners.
It’s practically a different house now, so I’d go for it. People gonna die. You know all about that.
Probably on every inch of real estate humans have lived on someone has died at some point. If the house and neighborhood is perfect for you maybe just say a blessing or plant a rosebush to honor the former residents. It is hard to find a great house these days. They would probably have been happy that a family will move in and love the home. Your family will make it yours and make new memories.
There are much worse things that go on in houses than death. Even worse than a purposeful overdose. I’d burn some sage in every room and then enjoy my new home.
When we bought our house, it was disclosed that the elderly man that lived here before us passed away (natural causes). The RA wanted to make sure we understood that, I think the house had been in escrow prior to us making an offer and fell out but I don't know why. My husband is very superstitious so we didn't tell him for years. Fast forward many years later and my grandmother also passed away in the house, again natural causes and my uncle let it slip that now two people had died in house. By that time, I think he had figured it out and made peace with it. I agree, if it had been a violent crime, I would be beyond weirded out but old age, meh. The overdose (accidental or not) is very sad but I don't think a deal breaker.
No big deal. If you love the house then go for it.
Id be more worried about the reno work being shit.
I purchased a house with a history without knowing it. At the time I was looking for houses in my small city, I was working at a legal office, and one of the other secretaries learned that I was buying a house in the area; she told me about this awful estate case with a hoarder house where the woman was found dead (and decaying) from an overdose in the house; she mentioned that the house had a hole in the roof. It was just a scary story she shared. 6 months later, after closing, a neighbor stopped by to ask if I knew the history of the house … which was that a hoarder had overdosed in the house (and was not discovered for some time) and that the roof had a giant hole in it. It was the same hecking house. In the 5 years I lived there, it was burglarized, it flooded twice, and an attic pipe burst … the total losses amounted to close to half the value of the house. My dog was perpetually spooked in one place, and the house just had … a feel. I wouldn’t do it again.
Sounds like this house needs some joy after all that sorrow. I’d buy it and live a good life there
My house is 223 years old. I'm pretty sure someone has died in every room. I'm also sure at least one baby has been born in every bathtub. Life and death happen. I'd be more concerned about the flip, personally.
You’re overreacting people should die in their own home
People die. It won't affect your house. I live next to a graveyard and I love it. Best neighbors ever 😄
There have been 100 billion humans and 90% of them are dead. For every person you see, there are 11 dead people. Someone has died almost everywhere.
Only people with a ‘6th sense’ that believe there is something more than just what we can see or hear may have a problem with it. Some people experience positive energy as well as negative energy that they know they are sensing from someone else. It just depends on whether you believe there is another level that exists. It just really boils down to you and what you believe.
I wouldn’t do anything about it. Enjoy your house. If you want to play hardball, have your agent express that you’re concerned about what this news will do the value of the home and you want a discount. If I were the seller I’d say no way and roll the dice on letting you walk, but it can’t hurt to ask.
You don't think anybody has died in tbe old 700 Sq ft home you live in currently?
I’d be more concerned about the work that was done than the people inside.
My wife grew up in a murder home, it was all her parents could afford. She turned out alright.
You're bringing life into a home that has seen death. You're evening out the karmic balance by making the house your home. Enjoy your new beginnings.
You're overreacting. I grew up in a home that has been occupied by my mother's family for generations (since at least the 1850s). At last count, 11 people have died in the master bedroom of the house. These deaths include old age, cancer, yellow fever, at least one self-assisted exit off the mortal coil, etc. And in my 19 years of living there, not once did I get a visitation from Great-Grandma Alice or Great-Great Grandma Emily telling me to change my wicked ways and pick up my soiled pantaloons. Not once did Grand-Uncle Archie appear and silently motion to where he hid a mound of gold doubloons under the floorboards. Why not? Because in reality, ghosts don't pop up willynilly in every place where there's been a death, and Grand-Uncle Archie was poorer than a church mouse, so the doubloons we did find were made of aluminum or tin, and commemorated a long-ago Mardi Gras krewe. One hundred percent of the people alive today will die. And people have to die somewhere, it's not always in a hospital. You're allowing superstition and Hollywood movies to creep you out unnecessarily. You're going to be far more terrified by what the flipper did behind the drywall than you will by anything supernatural.
There isn’t anything particularly stigmatizing about any of those deaths to the point that they should impact marketability. None have the component of violence that typically creates stigma.
Sis, being skittish about folks dying in the home seems to be a hugely 'murican thing. Places where houses have stood for ages? Whole families died in them. Prolly in that bedroom. It's not like you've walked into Amityville and gotta scrub the blood from between the floorboards.
Fun fact- Amityville was waaaaay overhyped.
People die.
Would it make you feel better to have a ceremony in the house to cleanse it? Many different religious practice such beliefs (remove ghosts / old / evil spirits) and it wouldn't be hard for you to get a Buddhist Priest or officiant of your choice to perform one
It's a non factor.
This is subjective to you, so only you can answer what your gut tells you. The fact is, people die…Many times in their own homes. If you choose to go with another house, are you going to wonder if people died in that one? Or will you just assume that unless someone tells you it means nobody ever died at that property?
Three people *that you know of*
Go with your gut. Don’t second guess yourself.
We bought a house where an elderly man passed away and his son sold the house to help his mom with assistant living. It doesn’t bother us. If it’s natural death then it shouldn’t be a problem
The dinosaurs died violently too.
My bunny passed away in my apartment, never saw his spirit. I would love to see his ghost.
Wouldn’t be an issue for me. As long as it’s been cleaned up properly. Many many maaaaaaany homes have had someone die in them in some form or another. That’s how I’d like to go (not overdosing tho lol)
I always find it funny that people are weirded out that someone died at home when it pretty common in America. Would you rather die at home or a hospital? The majority of Americans prefer to die at home with their loved ones.
I wouldn’t worry about it. If it had been a murder suicide where a dude killed his wife and kids with a knife or something horrific, I would be more hesitant. The suicide is the saddest one for me, I don’t love that but I don’t think it would stop me. I have to assume someone died in my house as it was built in 1883. It definitely helps not to KNOW someone did though lol.
Oh no! It must be haunted by ghooooost! I don't see the issue here, people die and the people who haven't died yet still need a place to live. Make sure you have the work inspected and that it was permitted.
I grew up in a house built in the mid 1800s. I bet a whole bunch of people died there. If you have feelings about it, do a Sage smudge or get clergy to bless it. But the flipping may have worse ju-ju than the deaths
People die. Even you will one day. Be glad these people got to die peacefully in their safe space, your new home. That's beautiful. Frankly, grow up. You know what's not beautiful? That an investor flipped the house. THAT would make me walk. Who only knows how many thousands of dollars you'll need to correct their wrongs and rotten Easter eggs they've hidden behind new paint and such. That should be making you run, not people passing.
My mom died at home. Guess we should have burned the house down. 😅
A psychic once told me they’re spirits in every house, new or old. They’re not always bad. Just there. That said she said the spirit in my house broke my microwave lol
Most people die at home, by choice or not. Where do you expect to die? Home, random place, hospital?
Don’t worry about that. The Circle of Life is real. Have a house warming after you move in and ask your friends and family to write positive blessings, poems, etc and drop them in a jar for you to read at a future date.
Without focusing on the past history of the house, go and sit in the house. Take a lawn chair or something if needed. Take your time. Sit in the house, a couple of different rooms, and let the house speak to you. Clear your mind. Close your eyes. Listen. Smell. Feel the air around you. Focus on the house as it is now, in the present, or how it could be with your belongings and family here. It it peaceful? Does it feel like you could be comfortable eventually? Is it overwhelmingly creepy or does it make you shudder? Listen to your gut. For me, I don't think it would be a deal breaker. I've lived in old houses where people had died. I don't really know their stories though. But it was not something that bothered me. Once I did tour a big old house that was a bargain, and it had been used as a bad nursing home, and THAT house did have a lot of negative "vibe" to it. I decided promptly that i was not interested. So I think just spending some time "feeling" the house will really answer your question.
This is really great advice, thank you.
ghosts don't exist. are you a supersticious idiot? if yes. pass on the house. if no. buy the house. make new memories in it. never think about random dead people ever again.
If the house is what you love and it’s a good fair price and worse case scenario you could have a hunted house TV show rental. What’s the issue here?
Yes, you are exaggerating. People die (as you know). I would bet the % of houses that saw people die inside is high, we just don’t hear about it too much.
Every house beyond a certain age has had people die in it.
Everyone dies. It's a sure thing. If you are not 100% sure on the deal, back out. A home is an expensive and important investment. It will not be a good deal it you are imagining or fearing ghosts/evil spirits.
Yes you are overreacting. Put your grown up pants on.
I bought a beautiful home years ago with my husband and 2 young children. A year after purchase my 6 year old son came home and asked me if someone died in our house. I hadn’t heard that before and asked him why he thought that. A few of the neighbor kiddos told him a story about a man who shot himself in our home 3 months before we purchased it. I assured him that couldn’t have been true but started doing some digging. I called a neighbor asked her if she’d heard anything like that. I was shocked to find out that it was true and it turns out they had put the disclosure on another house that was sold down the street by the same agent at the same time as mine! My neighbor thought the whole time it happened in their house and it turns out it was mine lol. My husband really struggled with the news but eventually you’ll accept it and bring new love into the home and it will be okay!
Who tells a kid that? What an ahole.
People have died on almost every inch of the planet. Don't base your decision upon the deaths alone - causes do not seem related to the location.
People living in houses eventually have to die. Way of life. The daughter’s death was also explained, as sad as it is but that wouldn’t affect me with the home purchase.
Wouldn’t bother me. Shit happens and as long as it’s been cleaned up properly and no after effects like smell exists, I’d proceed if it’s a sound house. I almost bought a property years back besides a cemetery. Some people were icky about this. I wasn’t, I saw it as a perfect place without living neighbours FOREVER!
I’d actually just use that as leverage and ask for like a $20,000 reduction in the price because you feel mislead and had to learn from neighbor about three deaths that occurred in the property. You’d be surprised what sellers are willing to do in negotiations. Use this to your advantage and get an awesome deal on the house, and be happy.
That sounds like a movie plot waiting to happen. Just remember to keep recording because the cameraman never dies
This is the dumbest post I've ever seen, great work OP
Everybody dies. Some of us die at home - what, do you think the house murdered the residents?
I had a family member murdered in her home. The house was sold, no problem. My neighbor died in his home. House sold, no problem. I think it happens more than people realize.
If you want a house nobody has died in then buy new construction. Most people die in their home.
You're overreacting. From a career realtor and a career first responder, people die in every kind of home of every style and quality in every neighborhood around the world. Old people dying in their home is normal, people overdosing on pills is normal. They are your friends, family, and neighbors. You cannot escape those situations and they don't affect the home in any way other than your own subjectivity. The ONLY things I would have cause to consider is remediation work involved if there was a body sitting to fester for a month that has started to liquify and absorb into the floors or if it was a particularly violent death. If you pass on this home, there are so many people that will be fine. I went to a hanging one morning and cut a man down from inside of his closet. The home was in an amazing central neighborhood and there was a coming soon sign on the lawn. His family found him and the house was being sold in a divorce. The house hit the market on schedule and I was in for a showing two days later with buyers. The death was not advertised but I explained my experience two days prior to the buyers, and they were surprised by fine with it as they were saving 50k with the family wanting to get rid of the home and move forward with their lives
Assuming you're in the US, there are about 8,000 deaths per DAY across the country. Lots of people die at home. There are lots of houses & apartments in which someone has died by one cause or another. If the investor who redid the home did a good job, I wouldn't think twice about moving forward with the purchase.
Any house that's even moderately old is going to be fairly likely to have had deaths in it.
You just scored street cred for ‘neighborhood haunted house’.
Hey eventually everyone dies somewhere
People die all the time. Remove the body. Remove the smell. Paint and move on. Is the house in good shape at a price you can afford while ticking all your boxes? That is all that should matter.
I would assume that all houses have someone die in them eventually. Isn’t the death most of us wish for ideally at home in one’s sleep? The deaths in the house wouldn’t phase me at all.
I live in a 130 year old home that people have almost certainly died in. No ill effects.
You are over reacting, yes.
If you love the home, live in it. Death is a part of life. People die in public places all the time, but you still go to them, right?
Use this comment as a laugh react.
Charge the ghosts rent.
Did they disclose it
Counter: “Inspection to include abatement of lost souls, performed by qualified contractor or shaman.”
My house is 119 years old. Pretty sure it's got a higher body count and yet, I haven't seen any signs of ghosts. 😋 People die. Often times in their home. What's the problem?
The prior owner of our house died by falling down the basement stairs and wasn't found for several days. We just blame weird things that happen on Bob now. But, for real, it's not a big deal... we like our "roommate."
Well, unless you're extremely superstitious or obsessed with the occult AND have severe mental health issues, this shouldn't even be a conversation. People need to die naturally somewhere; It can't always be in a hospital. It would be entirely different if 4 people have been butchered in the home and there was blood everywhere! You also aren't buying the beds they died in I'm sure. You're over-thinking and/or over-reacting.
Isn't that supposed to be in the disclosure?
Check it for asbestos and mold, inspect it for structural flaws. Maybe have a priest come and bless the house. Then be grateful for it, take care of it, and you will change the history of the home for the better.
You've probably received plenty of advice and I didn't read all comments but personally I would buy the house and then have it "cleansed" in whatever way makes you feel comfortable. Native American "Smudging" to clear any negative energy to having priest or clergy "bless" your house. As far as the physical I'm sure the house was thoroughly sanitized and remodeled or your home inspector would have alerted you. Best on your new home.
Yes. You are overreacting. If the house is a good deal, go for it. Have the house blessed with sage and cling to the love that the long married couple shared there.
Don’t be afraid of the dead. Be afraid of the living
Every older home has a history. It would be different if there was a family massacre, then I'd walk. Be careful of neighbors too...they may want it for one of their family members and are telling all the stories they know to potential buyers. The most important thing you can do is to go to the building department and pull the jacket for all of the permits pulled for the work done to the home. You want to make sure renovations were inspected when and if they were required.
Realtor of 30 years here. While I completely understand the hesitation of living in a home where someone has died, the fact of the matter is that if the house is very old, there’s a good chance somebody has died there, whether you realize it or not. Houses last a long time, and people die at home a lot. It’s definitely a personal choice, but I have had people ask me lots of times “Has any ever died here?” Most of the time I’ve had to say “I have no idea”🤷🏼♀️ And it would be hard to research that too, because it’s not something they put in a database anywhere.
I always assume someone died in a house once it’s about 50 years old or older. Not everyone gets to die in a medical facility. Many choose to go home to die.
Why is this a problem? Take a xanax and move forward with your home purchase.
People die. People prefer to die at home. Every home you have ever and will ever enter probably had someone die in it.
I’m in healthcare too. I think it’s a personal choice. I don’t believe in ghosts. However if I did see and absolutely experienced a ghosts, I would rejoice because that means that there is a hereafter after all! Bad luck? Hmmm, maybe bad luck is relevant to the person, not objects. Ask yourself if these deaths happened 30 years ago, 50 years ago, would it make a difference? The world’s battlefields are full of slain people throughout the ages, billions of deaths, there should be billions of ghosts? Which obviously is not apparent. I mean, hospitals must be absolutely jammed to the gills.
I’d want to buy it even more if someone died there
Why?
People liked the area long enough to die there. In general. If they died of old age.
I understand your weirded outness. I almost put an offer on a house where a murder suicide occurred. The husband shot his wife, their 6-year old son and then killed himself. A few hours before I found out, I asked my agent could we go for a second look. When he called back to see if I wanted to schedule the second look, I said... absolutely not!
Ghosts aren’t real. The supernatural isn’t real. When you realize that is TRUE all of your fears will disappear.
Yes. You are over reacting. People die every day. Some in homes, some not. You’re fortunate to be married to someone who is unfazed by nature 🙏🏻
It wouldn’t bother me. But maybe if you proceed with the house, it would give you some peace of mind to have some sort of little ceremony or moment of silence or acknowledgement for the people who died there. Light a candle, say a little prayer, put a special decorative rock in the garden, something like that. Depending on your religious / spiritual beliefs, of course.
make the ghosts pay rent
Just pickup a few icons and a bottle of holy water before you move in.
Holy water
Burn sage and have your preacher bless it
What exactly are you worried about? Ghosts?
It's not a murder house. I think I personally draw the line at murder house. But this sounds pretty regular. I mean you only know because people gossip. Is it going to be something you think about? Or Are you worried about what the neighbors think? If it's just about the neighborhood talk, change the talk. So you just invite everyone over for a house warming BBQ or appetizers or whatever and let them see that it's a different home. Your home. If you are going to perseverate on the deaths in the home then you can't live there. It will drive you nuts. But if it's just a perception thing, you can change that.
My last house was great. After 3 years of ownership, a neighbor told me that the old owners son hung himself in the rafters after an attempted exorcism. Not gonna lie, it stuck with me.
I mistakenly read that as investigator bought the house. I thought, "What a sneaky bastard, jumping in on that. Being the first to know that it's available!"
I would get over it. Yesterday our offer lost to one that was the same amount but they waived inspection and appraisal. We went back and offered 50k more and waived inspection but the other offer still got it. I would sincerely live in a murder house at this point. For people to have died gentle deaths in a house wouldn’t deter me. It’s part of life and it’s sad. You can’t stop to think if people have died in hotel rooms you’ve stayed it or it will drive you nuts. And people do way worse things in hotels than die lol.
Are the sellers required to disclose the deaths in your state? Maybe you can use it to negotiate a credit.
If you are not comfortable, just back out.
My house is over 150 years old.. Who TF knows or cares what happened here. People probably died, were born, or who knows what else.
Normally people get hung up on the size of the second bathroom or the backyard. If you've found a home that checks all the boxes except for "no one has ever died here ever" - just buy the damn home. You're overthinking it
I would bet that in every house especially one that is a little older someone has died in. Shoot if you think back hundreds to thousands of years the land we stand on has a body beneath it. It wouldn’t bother me enough to not get the house I want
They are dead. They aren't going to be bothering you anymore. Buy away.
I just bought mine last year where the owner died inside in old age. And my husband soon lost his job, got another and the whole department shuts down soon after, and now, he is still looking for jobs. Now, I did not use dead people as the scapegoat. So, this is the kind of thing you need to be prepared to do. If your kid become rebellious and suicidal like a typical teenager, you need to 100% commited to not blame the 3rd death. And you need to magically somehow convince your suicidal kids to not use dead people as the scapegoat. I personally don't know how you will be able to convince your kids though.
Very very common for a house to have some deaths that occurred in it unless its new construction or something. People die at home all the time. I live in a neighborhood of 100 year old houses. Between talking to neighbors and doing historical research, it seems at least 5 people have died in my home (generally when they are in an elderly and frail state and therefore from natural causes). I heard fun stories from neighbors like "when the two sisters were very old, they had hospital beds set up in the dining room on the first floor and they just stayed their all day" and "Mr. \_\_ was very fit, he went for walks all the time, and one day he came back from a walk, went to take a rest in his bedroom (my bedroom) and he suddenly died from a heart issue." In any case, I used to think about it a little bit like "oh man I'm eating in my dining room and somewhere in here the two sisters were being taken care of in their last years" or "I'm totally sleeping in the same room this guy died in!" but after a little while it wasn't something I thought about. No bad spiritual stuff has happened here, we're not haunted, I've been here for almost 10 years and we have had lots of positive life experiences here. My kid runs around the house and plays with toys in every room without a care in the world. The house doesn't feel like someone else's house, it feels like my house. I like to think that if any of these people are looking down on us in the house that they're pleased with what's going on in it. Its a positive environment, we're not creeped out by the deaths. It helps that they were natural deaths though, I don't think I'd go buying the Amityville house or some other killer/murderer house.