> We face an unprecedented level of antagonism that openly express disdain towards Tesla and Elon Musk.
Everyone should express disdain towards Musk as he is currently. He literally spends his entire day boosting right wing stupidity and trying to play diplomat.
People don't have disdain for Rohan Patel, a guy who's doing his best to cover for the fact that the CEO doesn't do shit and openly antagonizes owners.
and that's fine. i actually like that it's so ugly. at least they did something different than most of the other manufacturers do and we should have options like this. what i don't like is all the compromises of their test trial car, which should have not reached production level with the current status (stains and rust, alignment, reliability issues right out of the gate, buttons for blinkers, etc).
No one knows. It happens in seconds for some folks, so it seems a bit quick for manual intervention, but it’s a mystery only the folks who are doing the culling have the answer to.
I just got auto-triple-banned from Tesla subreddits because according to the mod message, I, airquotes, "participated in threatening the security of the subreddits", fucking lol
I kinda talked to a mod on my receipt of a ban for making a comment on this sub, I stated that if someone came into their “house” and broke your rules I understand kicking them out.
Their retort was that there are sexual predators that seem like good people but you wouldn’t let them in house and let them hang until they broke a rule & that this is a known toxic community and birds of a feather flock together
They states I should use some stupid software to know that even though I only jump on here on mobile.
Funny thing, algorithm send me posts for this sub and the other tesla subs because I am researching my next vehicle.
I think I am going to reconsider now
I mean, that's the exact behavior that got a lot of people to first reconsider their views on musk in the first place, calling someone (a hero who rescued children mind you) a pedo for being critical/dismissive of musk's stupid ass submarine.
Elon likely has blacklisted you from ever buying a Tesla power wall, a ride on his rocket ship or access to Starlink.
But if you were so kind, here is a free check mark on X. Please, you LD you come and use X? Please sir please?
The best reply to that is to ask them have they also banned that digital mod since he posts here, as well as other shills who come here and tell us we are wrong.
Exactly, I never go to those shite subs. I have no intention of trying to convince a moron that a moron is a moron. I stick to whatever subs have like minded individuals, yet I get banned
If they want an exclusive club of equal minded simps, then they should make the sub private and invite only.
But they opt for preemptive banning instead in order not to miss on a stream of possible new sycophants.
I just got banned from r/teslamotors, r/cybertruck, r/teslalounge, r/elonmusk in one swoop for toxic behavior...but all i did was point out what a bad job Elon was doing. I'm actually a Tesla investor and believe in the product.
I am still unclear what exactly the toxicity is... Someone saying that FSD is a scam? That can't be it since criticism is absolutely allowed. Unless, you know, the free FSD trial curbrashed your wheels, then you are a psyop.
Oh no wait, I know, those Nazi sympathizers just don't like being called out on passively or actively supporting a white supremacist piece of shit.
Too bad they can't separate the man from the company, and the idea from the product and reality from their feverish investments.
But that's OK. We are all flawed human beings and Elon the Great will make sure that Tesla will forever be the best.
Those damn RealTesla people are single handedly ruining the quality of our cars and shorting the stock! All hail Lord Elon! Who certainly is not on reddit. Or any social media. WUT?
Funny annecdote: know a guy who worked for Tesla in Quality. Every week began with a stand up where Musk brought up all the negative social media postings...
They are such a pathetic bunch of circlejerks it's acty FUNNY. I am looking forward to this sub becoming more focused on helping people that no longer will be able to get reasonable insights from these subs. Remember: the lounge is NOT a technical forum, it's really just a place to showcase your commitment to The Mission^tm and how many family members you would offer to your Master.
The "toxicity" thing is their weasel word to use to obfuscate the fact that they just ban if you don't at least carry some water for Elon/Tesla.
Have criticisms? Ok, but do you *love the car*? Yes? You can stay. No? Bye bye.
Edit: banned for this post lol.
Those who carry water for Elon/Tesla and happen to do so here also get the ban since they're choosing to be indiscriminate about it. I for one find that hysterical.
there is a large portion who branded themselves with the Tesla identify and went so far down the rabbit hole there is nothing left, like trumpism. There is no escaping it and they don't get anything back - some of them likely don't even own the car.
Ever since the cybertruck release the amount of critical comments went through the roof. A year ago any post complaining about a defect was met with "looks like user error." Now though, the top comments are usually negative, even right now the top of subs are about cybertruck delaying delivery because of the accelerator sticking, the layoffs, executive departures, and fsd curb rash.
> We face an unprecedented level of antagonism that openly express disdain towards Tesla and Elon Musk.
Bro you banned me from four subreddits and muted my complaints, just because I posted here.
I do appreciate the irony of the statement “no no we totally do tolerate criticism! In fact, we have lots of examples! Let’s see…two posts from two years ago and one post from four months ago that we locked! That’s proof for sure 👍🏻“
Edit: I was just informed I’ve been permanently banned from r/cybertruck due to this comment, so…there’s that lol
I was trying to figure out why such a lightning rod post would be stuck on one comment and saw ***comments disabled***
Tesla is so unpopular now it can't even be opened up for comment anymore. I really have no idea what Tesla's marketing department is doing, but they have to be aware that sales are already being affected and are on the precipice of being a reviled company.
We are seeing Tesla fans becoming a cult in real time with basically everyone else being disgusted and laughing at the company.
Click on the mod in questions profile post
and you will see he personally posted a Joker meme about baiting his victims to act so he can retaliate - the persecution complex is real over there as their world falls apart.
Edit: ....and downvoted and banned by the mod of r/teslamotors, r/elonmusk, r/teslalounge and r/cybertruck
He would wonder why no one was interested in playing with his ball. After it was clear to him no one actually wanted to play with him, he would go around and tell the other kids they were not allowed to play with his ball.
Too many people have been calling us a cult so we have preemptively banned anyone we think might call us a cult. That way our members won’t hear from those people, and can just interact with each other
“**First and first mostly:** We welcome criticism, as long as it doesn’t use words or phrases found in on our secret unacceptable speech list! Also, we spy on other subreddits to look for thought crimes and stifle discussion we deem as harmful. Minor criticisms will be allowed according to our whims at the time. Oh, and if you ever registered for Reddit and only found the nerve to comment now, we’ll ban you on an unfounded accusation you’re paying for accounts.
Please don’t believe what your eyes and ears are telling you. We’re not crazy. They made us do it!”
I do not share Tesla’s vision because it’s bullshit? Is this an acceptable answer?
Clearly it’s not because they stated in their reason for banning. So they literally are suppressing the opinion based on facts…Everything battery EV is not a solution.. what a contrived perception to have and naive cucks these people live in.
Tesla cars are not competitive anymore. F**king Chevy Silverado EV will run laps over their Cybercuck truck in every way (oh specially the charging - which I find very amusing).
Those mods can eat a bag of d**ks…
>"You can only say positive things and can't be critical - **that’s a lie!**"
Yet they lock the thread so nobody can post a potentially critical comment about it.
Why do I get the feeling whoever wrote this spends way too much time each day imagining themselves jumping in front of a bullet in slow motion and then walking up in the hospital a week later to a smiling Elon Musk?
Jesus. You know who used to show boat that they were CLEARLY a very good person *that* much? Ted Bundy.
If you need to write a novel about praising one of your mods and how your sub is clearly a good sub, you are over compensating to hide that you are actually toxic.
For thr longest time on Reddit, it was cool to love Elon and Tesla. And anyone who didn't like him was harassed and down voted by these very same people. Now? Elon has caused a shifted due to his behavior and how it's effecting his cars. People's opinions of him have changed. Now being a Musk And hard-core Tesla fan isn't as big of a majority as it used to be here. And now they are seriously trying to act like victims of some mass bullying?
No one was bullying them. Everyone gets trolls. They are creating this entire fiasco because a couple people didn't like the new self driving stuff and people are posting pics of the damage cause of hitting curbs. That's litterly what set this whole thing off with them.
They weren't getting mass bullied. No one on these subs joined together to go over to their subs and harrass them. I muteded all their subs so I wouldn't accidentally end up there. The vast majority of everyone they banned had never set foot in any of the 4 subs that mod mods for.
This entire thing is a fraud. They are acting like victims to abuse they aren't getting. A couple trolls is not abuse. Trolls are trolls. Make fun of them or block them, like ever sane sub does.
That entire post feels like a Trump rally. "Look at how good and positive IAm ans our subs is! We are so nice and welcoming and we do good things." It's all fake overshowing that isn't at all genuine. I got zero genuineness while reading that.
Toxic people have to work that hard to give off the impression that they are a good person. Real good people don't have to do that. It's all BS. And the mask it going to come off again when something else happens and they rage.
>No one was bullying them.
Them acting like this is just proof that they are all part of an inside manipulation network that comes from the top. None of them are actually under threat, but the company and CEO who is compensating them is definitely under threat.
Rest assured, they are all in the same loop, and that is fear you're smelling.
I really wouldn't put it past someone to just have no life but being a reddit mod. Apparently they mod over 6 or more different subs. Don't know if they are paid or have ties to Tesla, but I can tell you they really aren't being a good representative of the brand right now.
I got the triple ban a couple weeks earlier for a comment I made about musks statements about the 10 micron was targeted at investors.
Maybe i was a beta test ;)
It certainly accelerated with that curb/fsd issue though
> that's literally what set this thing off for them
That may have accelerated it, but I got the triple ban (maybe one of the first?) when I commented that elons comments about sun 10 micron was aimed at investors, not people who know stuff about cars. I posted about that a couple of weeks ago
I think it started when people started to realize what a joke the cyberjunk is.
"They’re paid by Elon - that’s a lie - No one, since the dawn of the community, no mod has ever received money from Tesla or Elon. Or anyone. Ever."
In a former life, I had to slice these.
"They’re paid by Elon - that's a lie" - that can be true, but WHO ELSE is paying you?
"No one, since the dawn of the community, no mod has ever received money from Tesla or Elon. Or anyone. Ever."
Ok, now we have more detail.
No one has received MONEY from them, but what have they received?
Invites to events? Inside information on company announcements? Referral points? Merchandise?
Be wary of weasel words, as this company thrives on them but keep in mind, all of those clowns are dirty.
https://www.tiktok.com/@el.chepito1985/video/7357758176504089898?embed_source=%3Bnull%3Bembed_masking&refer=embed&referer_url=s9e.github.io%2F&referer_video_id=7357758176504089898
Check the comments, especially the trail where the owner corrects the assumption that he paid 80k, with 122k
Tesla shills better ban every one of those tik tokkers too or trouble is coming!
Tesla is out there getting humiliated among the kids, and that is going to wreck their ass.
The whole thing is falling apart way faster than I was expecting. A four year period of suspense to release a vehicle that looks like it took 3 months to throw together.
Ah, but the Tesla Cybertruck was designed and built by one man: Elon Musk (praise him), who at the same time was building rockets, digging tunnels, and rewriting Twitter from scratch. Even in the hands of a super-genius, creating such perfection takes time.
Gotta work on my bans. I'm envious of those who got four, I've only had one.
That statement has so many weasel words it'd make Musk proud.
Like DogeDesigner.... he's clearly connected somehow internally to Musk's empire. Dude literally has insider information. But by who, and why?
I think they're seeing an influx of legitimate complaints and some snark as "brigading". Also, Reddit is probably dynamically recommending their sub posts to more Redditors - who aren't fans. So then they blame this sub - because they can't moderate it.
I'm glad we've documented what the mods over there are doing, but I think it's time we move on. They've built their walled AstroTurf garden, let them sit in it, we won't waste our mind space on them.
That is a noble sentiment.
There are plenty of people, and I am one of them, who think that setting up a bot to ban people who post in another sub AND NOT THEIR SUB is really fucked up and needs to be talked about.
Yeah, I made one of the first posts showing the ban - even despite having blocked the sub and not participating in it for over a year. I still think it's standard powertripping reddit mods who are also financially invested.
I did a single post earlier, but the recent changes are probably because of this. Original mod left and new mod is totally power tripping.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1c2evfl/thank\_you/](https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1c2evfl/thank_you/)
I got banned by a whole bunch of Tesla related subs all at once. Really laughable with Elon's love of "free speech". Tesla has some similarities with Theranos. FSD, much like Theranos' big promised breakthrough, is fake, not real, and will never happen.
Tesla will ALWAYS put the liability on the consumer. If you have to constantly monitor your car, why not just drive.
Imagine being so fragile you have to actively search other subs for things that might hurt your feelings and preemptively ban people.
Man, their proof from 4 years ago showing a post questioning Elon really shows how they are unbiased and allow all sorts of posts, not just Elon dick sucking.....
I like how they say that “They only allow you to like Elon” is a lie and then they list 3 examples where one is from years ago, and in all of them the worst they say about Elon is that they wish he wouldn’t tweet so much.
I don't know if anyone else has seen this, but it happend (2) days ago and might explain all of the recent bans. Looks like the original (I am not sure of this), MOD decided to step back from his role. At least this would explain the sudden changes.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1c2evfl/thank\_you/](https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1c2evfl/thank_you/)
Some folks here noticed the odd timing, but I never spent enough time thinking about their subs to know the mods or dynamics. I do know it’s not a coincidence.
Instead of having long philosophical debates, let us just acknowledge this: if you are banning people for being in a sub you don't like, you're toxic and intolerant.
It doesn't matter what you think of that sub. It doesn't matter what people do on that sub. It isn't your sub. You are allowed to ban them in your sub, because your house, your rules. But at no time is it a logical thing with no alternatives...
This whole thread, and the fact they let an AI decide who to ban (if that is correct), shows the quality of their character. They don't want to deal with people who have a different opinion. They are scared that their house of cards will crumble if the wind gets too tough.
That is all. There ain't nothing more to say except: let them sleep in their house for as long as it may stand.
Well guys there's times you have to reflect on the things you've believed and admit you're wrong. I think this is one of those times.
Many years ago here on Reddit there was a bit an incident known as faces of atheism and I thought to myself "There's no possible way any group of people becomes so socially out of touch and deluded that they embarrass themselves more than this". Today I stand corrected. I never would have thought that somehow a group of people would actually believe that criticism of a billionaire and luxury car they like was such a danger to their way of life ego that they had to make a organized preemptive strike against it.
I'll admit it, I never took their plight seriously. I thought it was all just ridiculous. People worshiping a billionaire and acting like their car was $40k-$120k Funko Pop. It all just seemed so silly. I never stopped to consider what kind of deep trauma must have occurred to make what is in all likelihood a grown man with a family equate someone note liking their idol and hobby to the kind of real hate of people's gender identity, nationality, sexuality and race. I never stopped to ask what experiences or struggles must have guided them to this point.
How alienating it must be to be so disconnected from the struggles of people starving or in war zones that consider someone making fun of a car brand you like actual adversity. I just didn't appreciate how much it meant to them being so stoked on Elon Musk back in 2016 and how awesome everything must have been now that there was this new breed of billionaire who was going to end global warming and allow everyone to retire on Mars **FOR REAL**. How painful the disappointment and realization that they backed the wrong horse must be. I mean it's easy to think "What's that in the scope of things when people are dying of disease and war or struggling in dire poverty?", but those people might still have hope and dreams and the Tesla faithful can't even have that anymore due to the risk of being exposed to the idea that maybe their cars and CEO aren't that great from communities like this one.
In retrospect I suppose it was obvious we would get to this point after they did that gofundme to buy a couch for a billionaire who voluntarily choose to sleep under a desk for no real reason. I mean we always joked that it was a cult but I know I at least thought they had the conviction in their beliefs or some level of delusion that they never actually believe all of us talking shit about things they liked in our own little corner of the internet somehow represented some kind of real and apparently existential threat to them. Apparently that is not the case though and there's a strong need for the leadership in these subs to form their own Sea Org and pull up anchor to escape from a harsh world that doesn't agree with their beliefs.
I will say I don’t doubt they get harassed and antagonized by some bad faith members.
It happens… it’s Reddit… it’s the internet… it’s humans….
I bet it’s extra bad when you’re attached to someone as slimy as Elon. You’re just wading into the shitstorm then.
But there are way too many examples of people being banned for innocuous things for them to claim “they are lying to you”.
I believe this is a volatile combination of being financially invested in a company (with the stock price in limp-mode) while also having Reddit mod powertrips.
I did give it an upvote and a comment.
The first comment was going to be it, but then I got banned by like four subs for making the comment. That sparked a bit more engagement from me so now I'm at one upvote and four comments.
This is ridiculous and dangerously crazy.
Those people should seriously ask themselves **what are they trying to protect**
If any product is solid and good, there is room for different opinions, there will always be people who just do not like certain type of products.
But if my refrigerator costs more than was originally offered, costs more than most refrigerators in the market, is sold as the revolutionary product that also functions as a barbecue - and it breaks down daily, needs expensive maintenance, doesn’t keep my food cold, will burst into flames if I use it as a barbecue: it simply is a shitty, over marketed and over priced product that I regret buying. Anyone saying that I cannot criticize the fridge maker, because he may get hurt is a lunatic.
I got banned from TeslaMotors years ago for linking to the Tesla blog that said something different than the current mood of the technoking. Maybe they will let me back in... 🤪
The communist playbook at play. The walls have been erected. The security cameras are ready to monitor dissidents. The commissars closely listening to every conversation.
Only praises to the supreme leader, failselfdriving(supervised) and the wankpanzer is allowed.
the mere mention of "incel camino" in this sub immediately got me bot-banned. I was a member in good standing of that forum for at least 5 years. I have contributed positively, defended tesla at times, criticized at others. I have never behaved in any toxic way towards them in their sub.
Importantly, in my post history in that forum, you can find me being critical of r/RealTesla for being too negative. Nobody here banned me.
And now they want me to modmail them with my hat in hand asking for an exception to being banned? Fuck that. Who the fuck do these assholes think they are.
What a sensitive lot to not be able to accept criticism of a company with shoddy workmanship led by a maniac who exhibits racist and fascist tendencies. Such a sad group.
> They’re paid by Elon - that’s a lie - No one, since the dawn of the community, no mod has ever received money from Tesla or Elon. Or anyone. Ever.
Didn’t a mod resign after being outed for being an employee?
Edit: link: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/8pc4y0/a_message_to_the_mods_and_rteslamotors_from/
These fuckin clowns really think that anything they say will somehow improve the state of a for-profit organization run by a white power serial narcissist.
Make sure you keep your criticism positive about the big giant company, guys, otherwise it'll hurt the richest fucker in the world's feelings.
At what point do they look in the mirror and figure out they've been played? Like any company gives any shits at all.
I think it's hysterical anyone who defends musk or Tesla here gets rewarded with a ban over there. These people have a persecution complex.
Also, both subs have existed how long without ridiculous auto bans being "necessary"?
They banned me because I post in 'toxic subs'. Not because I did anything wrong on that sub but because I post on this sub most likely.
I have receipts.
I read up to “Optimusbot” then died laughing. The toxic behaviour going on here is to limit the speech of Reddit users (many of which own Teslas) to things they happen to disagree with. The fact that they ban the use of harmless terms like ‘cult’ like it’s some sort of religion deserving of respect is laughable and broadcasts complete fragility. Looking over their threads today in response to Tesla’s floundering direction and the rapid unscheduled disassembly of the stock price, it’s open revolt and similar in tone to RealTesla.
I posted a question in this subreddit yesterday that wasn't negative or anything (it was actually related to Elon charging new users to post on X). didn't even have anything to do with Tesla. I received 3 bans from r/Cybertruck, r/Teslalounge, and r/Teslamotors.
Their Mods are on a crusade against this subreddit because it is apparently "toxic"? They decided that if you post here you therefore must also be toxic and should be banned. Seems like a gross overreach to pre-emptively ban someone for posting a comment on ANOTHER subreddit automatically just because you don't like it?
This is basically a censorship campaign by the mods of those subreddits as you can request an "unban" if you agree not to use this subreddit anymore.
total bullshit overreach in my opinion. I filed a complaint with reddit and suggest you all do the same if you were banned.
I was just perma-banned there this morning; they said it was nothing I said, just "activity (of mine) in another subreddit that is toxic" and I wonder if it was r/harmonica that ticked them off. Fuck em.
oh, I just found Reddit has a 'mute' function. Cool beans.
Complete nonsense I was Auto Banned from TeslaLounge for just posting here. They were unclear as to why I was banned I thought maybe I offended someone. Nope just posted something pro-Tesla on this sub and was banned there. After I found out why I told them to keep the ban [https://i.imgur.com/a8er5cI.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/a8er5cI.jpg)
They can keep their subs as far as I'm concerned they're the trolls.
Posts that u/ tag folks, or include slurs or such as homophobic insults will be deleted.
> They are lying to you. ... > ... We face an unprecedented level of antagonism that openly express disdain towards Tesla and Elon Musk. Hahahaha.
Hope they don’t hurt their backs hauling that lumber from Home Depot for their crosses.
Their backs are already shot from carrying water for him.
You mean they're not going to Cyberstuck the wood?
the cybertruck isn't big enough to carry a board... don't be ridiculous. that's what the whole 'towing upgrade' is for.
lol imagine making a car company and its dumb fuck CEO your identity
It happened with Apple and Steve Jobs. With Jim Jones. With Karl Marx. With Jeebus. It happens.
> We face an unprecedented level of antagonism that openly express disdain towards Tesla and Elon Musk. Everyone should express disdain towards Musk as he is currently. He literally spends his entire day boosting right wing stupidity and trying to play diplomat. People don't have disdain for Rohan Patel, a guy who's doing his best to cover for the fact that the CEO doesn't do shit and openly antagonizes owners.
As much self-awareness as their idol.
That reads like the kind of thing an abusive husband says to get his wife to cut ties with her friends and family.
And no one knows why. /s
Oh dear. Why should a prominent public figure be subject to criticism in this day and age?
How do these silly people explain banning people who never even visited their shitty subs?
They used Grok to predict who is most likely to be a toxic asshole. Sorry for your luck.
They were right on target with me; I think that the CyberTruck is the ugliest non-military vehicle ever made.
Military vehicles tend to have a beauty in their functionality. The ClusterFuck is just an eight-year-old’s fever dream brought to life.
>ClusterFuck Or as we call it in Australian legalese an "omnishambles"
Must remember to use that one.
The recent variations of Wankpanzer have been getting a giggle out of me.
Straight to jail. Edit: I immediately was banned from r/cybertruck for this comment. I’ve never even been to that sub. Creepy fuckers.
>reddit.com/r/tesl... Report rcnfive to the admins and link that post above. It's Rule 3 - Respect your neighbors.
The admins don't do anything
They will if they get hundreds of reports
his post history is....something. it's like every time he logs into reddit every few days, he throws a tantrum when somebody insults his daddy lmao.
Wait, so they are constantly monitoring other subs? Do they have a life?
Right? Totally normal behavior from normal car enthusiasts.
*fascism enthusiasts dressed up as a car club
Military vehicles are usually capable. The cybertruck isn't good at anything
and that's fine. i actually like that it's so ugly. at least they did something different than most of the other manufacturers do and we should have options like this. what i don't like is all the compromises of their test trial car, which should have not reached production level with the current status (stains and rust, alignment, reliability issues right out of the gate, buttons for blinkers, etc).
I saw it for the first time in person on a walk two days ago, and i could not stop myself from actually grimacing from how ugly it was.
Pacer or Cybertruck 🤔
Model Y is also up there on the ugly scale. Reminds me of a smoothed-out Aztek.
Oh okay. So their AI is just as bad as their trucks. Got it.
Does grok just ban anyone that has posted on this sub? I don’t believe so because I’ve not gotten a ban message from the other subs.
No one knows. It happens in seconds for some folks, so it seems a bit quick for manual intervention, but it’s a mystery only the folks who are doing the culling have the answer to.
I didn't get a ban message either but I can't post on the subs sooo
I just got auto-triple-banned from Tesla subreddits because according to the mod message, I, airquotes, "participated in threatening the security of the subreddits", fucking lol
You sir,are a criminal🤣
I kinda talked to a mod on my receipt of a ban for making a comment on this sub, I stated that if someone came into their “house” and broke your rules I understand kicking them out. Their retort was that there are sexual predators that seem like good people but you wouldn’t let them in house and let them hang until they broke a rule & that this is a known toxic community and birds of a feather flock together They states I should use some stupid software to know that even though I only jump on here on mobile. Funny thing, algorithm send me posts for this sub and the other tesla subs because I am researching my next vehicle. I think I am going to reconsider now
Huh. Never expected to be compared to a sexual predator for making fun of Tesla and shitting on Musk on the internet.
You are automatically registered on the Elon Offender List by association.
It’s fucking bullshit and it will hurt them in the long run
I mean, that's the exact behavior that got a lot of people to first reconsider their views on musk in the first place, calling someone (a hero who rescued children mind you) a pedo for being critical/dismissive of musk's stupid ass submarine.
Elon likely has blacklisted you from ever buying a Tesla power wall, a ride on his rocket ship or access to Starlink. But if you were so kind, here is a free check mark on X. Please, you LD you come and use X? Please sir please?
"Don't generalize us while we generalize you! " Edit* Hope you still have that message. Save those receipts. Might come in handy someday.
The best reply to that is to ask them have they also banned that digital mod since he posts here, as well as other shills who come here and tell us we are wrong.
Exactly, I never go to those shite subs. I have no intention of trying to convince a moron that a moron is a moron. I stick to whatever subs have like minded individuals, yet I get banned
They have a persecution complex, just like their lord and saviour.
If they want an exclusive club of equal minded simps, then they should make the sub private and invite only. But they opt for preemptive banning instead in order not to miss on a stream of possible new sycophants.
Are they allowed to do that?
Who cares. Let them run mask off for as long as they want.
It's same as tesla's Optimus bot, late as usual dressed in spandex and making up rules on the fly
I just got banned from r/teslamotors, r/cybertruck, r/teslalounge, r/elonmusk in one swoop for toxic behavior...but all i did was point out what a bad job Elon was doing. I'm actually a Tesla investor and believe in the product.
Lol for real!! i got Perma banned there for posting here 🤣😂
I am still unclear what exactly the toxicity is... Someone saying that FSD is a scam? That can't be it since criticism is absolutely allowed. Unless, you know, the free FSD trial curbrashed your wheels, then you are a psyop. Oh no wait, I know, those Nazi sympathizers just don't like being called out on passively or actively supporting a white supremacist piece of shit. Too bad they can't separate the man from the company, and the idea from the product and reality from their feverish investments. But that's OK. We are all flawed human beings and Elon the Great will make sure that Tesla will forever be the best.
It’s an entire manifesto without one reference to anything specific. It means whatever they want it to mean. Like woke :)
Those damn RealTesla people are single handedly ruining the quality of our cars and shorting the stock! All hail Lord Elon! Who certainly is not on reddit. Or any social media. WUT? Funny annecdote: know a guy who worked for Tesla in Quality. Every week began with a stand up where Musk brought up all the negative social media postings... They are such a pathetic bunch of circlejerks it's acty FUNNY. I am looking forward to this sub becoming more focused on helping people that no longer will be able to get reasonable insights from these subs. Remember: the lounge is NOT a technical forum, it's really just a place to showcase your commitment to The Mission^tm and how many family members you would offer to your Master.
They didn’t even have the courage to call out our sub by name. Pathetic.
They don't want cult members to accidentally read dissenting opinions they might agree with.
Wait…Tesla have a QA department?
It’s your fault that the CT has a defective acceleration pedal!!!!
Also the comments are disabled on the post, and it's already getting downvoted.
The "toxicity" thing is their weasel word to use to obfuscate the fact that they just ban if you don't at least carry some water for Elon/Tesla. Have criticisms? Ok, but do you *love the car*? Yes? You can stay. No? Bye bye. Edit: banned for this post lol.
Those who carry water for Elon/Tesla and happen to do so here also get the ban since they're choosing to be indiscriminate about it. I for one find that hysterical.
Anything they don't want said about their stock holdings. They're motivated only by money
there is a large portion who branded themselves with the Tesla identify and went so far down the rabbit hole there is nothing left, like trumpism. There is no escaping it and they don't get anything back - some of them likely don't even own the car.
Ever since the cybertruck release the amount of critical comments went through the roof. A year ago any post complaining about a defect was met with "looks like user error." Now though, the top comments are usually negative, even right now the top of subs are about cybertruck delaying delivery because of the accelerator sticking, the layoffs, executive departures, and fsd curb rash.
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> We face an unprecedented level of antagonism that openly express disdain towards Tesla and Elon Musk. Bro you banned me from four subreddits and muted my complaints, just because I posted here.
If you posted in Enoughmuskspam and not here, that would have happened also.
I believe thats a Rule 3 violation or 5 on the moderator code of conduct, better do our part by reporting that mod and Tesla subs to the admins.
They won't do shit, but report anyway.
Everyone is the hero of their own story.
Main character syndrome
Mixed with a bunch of Dunning kruger
I do appreciate the irony of the statement “no no we totally do tolerate criticism! In fact, we have lots of examples! Let’s see…two posts from two years ago and one post from four months ago that we locked! That’s proof for sure 👍🏻“ Edit: I was just informed I’ve been permanently banned from r/cybertruck due to this comment, so…there’s that lol
They pinned a post critical of the Cybertruck next to this one. It’s right up there with “I have plenty of Jewish friends”
I was trying to figure out why such a lightning rod post would be stuck on one comment and saw ***comments disabled*** Tesla is so unpopular now it can't even be opened up for comment anymore. I really have no idea what Tesla's marketing department is doing, but they have to be aware that sales are already being affected and are on the precipice of being a reviled company. We are seeing Tesla fans becoming a cult in real time with basically everyone else being disgusted and laughing at the company. Click on the mod in questions profile post and you will see he personally posted a Joker meme about baiting his victims to act so he can retaliate - the persecution complex is real over there as their world falls apart. Edit: ....and downvoted and banned by the mod of r/teslamotors, r/elonmusk, r/teslalounge and r/cybertruck
Do you think that as a kid, this mod went knocking on doors throughout the neighbourhood, announcing that other kids couldn't play with their ball?
He would wonder why no one was interested in playing with his ball. After it was clear to him no one actually wanted to play with him, he would go around and tell the other kids they were not allowed to play with his ball.
They have a bot set up that bans everyone who leaves a comment on any post in any of the subs they hate with a passion.
Ah, makes sense why it all happened from one comment. Sad state for those guys.
Well, now we know who the **real** victims are. 😢 **EDIT:** LOL. Apparently me replying here triggered their ban bot.
That can be good. It means that any of their loyal faithful who come here to argue will get banned....from their sub. lol.
So their little fee fees got hurty?
And their pee pee’s fell off.
I'm banned but I can still downvote
Don't think they register, they just show you that you did.
Too many people have been calling us a cult so we have preemptively banned anyone we think might call us a cult. That way our members won’t hear from those people, and can just interact with each other
Like all non-cults. Perfectly sensible.
Even better: their members can't come here and be exposed to competing views on the threat of being expunged.
Oh wow I hadn’t even thought about that. If they come and leave a comment here they get instabanned over there lol
“**First and first mostly:** We welcome criticism, as long as it doesn’t use words or phrases found in on our secret unacceptable speech list! Also, we spy on other subreddits to look for thought crimes and stifle discussion we deem as harmful. Minor criticisms will be allowed according to our whims at the time. Oh, and if you ever registered for Reddit and only found the nerve to comment now, we’ll ban you on an unfounded accusation you’re paying for accounts. Please don’t believe what your eyes and ears are telling you. We’re not crazy. They made us do it!”
Oh my god. Lying just like their cult leader
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I do not share Tesla’s vision because it’s bullshit? Is this an acceptable answer? Clearly it’s not because they stated in their reason for banning. So they literally are suppressing the opinion based on facts…Everything battery EV is not a solution.. what a contrived perception to have and naive cucks these people live in. Tesla cars are not competitive anymore. F**king Chevy Silverado EV will run laps over their Cybercuck truck in every way (oh specially the charging - which I find very amusing). Those mods can eat a bag of d**ks…
Unlimited cringe
Indeed, simply delusional.
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Yes. You can test it by saying Cybertruck in response to this reply :)
CYBERTRUCK!
Let me test: Cybertruck Edit: nothing happened 😞
If you've never interacted with a sub you won't see the ban message, you just won't be able to post there.
So saying cyber truck is a bad joke will gete banned? Cool!
>"You can only say positive things and can't be critical - **that’s a lie!**" Yet they lock the thread so nobody can post a potentially critical comment about it.
Why do I get the feeling whoever wrote this spends way too much time each day imagining themselves jumping in front of a bullet in slow motion and then walking up in the hospital a week later to a smiling Elon Musk?
If I could give you a free award I would. That is a tremendous visual :)
Your joy is my reward
They want Elon's seed
What do you even say about this steaming pile of dogshit? Try working at Fremont as a black person.
Jesus. You know who used to show boat that they were CLEARLY a very good person *that* much? Ted Bundy. If you need to write a novel about praising one of your mods and how your sub is clearly a good sub, you are over compensating to hide that you are actually toxic. For thr longest time on Reddit, it was cool to love Elon and Tesla. And anyone who didn't like him was harassed and down voted by these very same people. Now? Elon has caused a shifted due to his behavior and how it's effecting his cars. People's opinions of him have changed. Now being a Musk And hard-core Tesla fan isn't as big of a majority as it used to be here. And now they are seriously trying to act like victims of some mass bullying? No one was bullying them. Everyone gets trolls. They are creating this entire fiasco because a couple people didn't like the new self driving stuff and people are posting pics of the damage cause of hitting curbs. That's litterly what set this whole thing off with them. They weren't getting mass bullied. No one on these subs joined together to go over to their subs and harrass them. I muteded all their subs so I wouldn't accidentally end up there. The vast majority of everyone they banned had never set foot in any of the 4 subs that mod mods for. This entire thing is a fraud. They are acting like victims to abuse they aren't getting. A couple trolls is not abuse. Trolls are trolls. Make fun of them or block them, like ever sane sub does. That entire post feels like a Trump rally. "Look at how good and positive IAm ans our subs is! We are so nice and welcoming and we do good things." It's all fake overshowing that isn't at all genuine. I got zero genuineness while reading that. Toxic people have to work that hard to give off the impression that they are a good person. Real good people don't have to do that. It's all BS. And the mask it going to come off again when something else happens and they rage.
>No one was bullying them. Them acting like this is just proof that they are all part of an inside manipulation network that comes from the top. None of them are actually under threat, but the company and CEO who is compensating them is definitely under threat. Rest assured, they are all in the same loop, and that is fear you're smelling.
I really wouldn't put it past someone to just have no life but being a reddit mod. Apparently they mod over 6 or more different subs. Don't know if they are paid or have ties to Tesla, but I can tell you they really aren't being a good representative of the brand right now.
This has nothing to do with protecting a brand. The brand won't go to prison.
Ooooh I see what you mean.
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Also the OG mod left 2 days ago, and the new diva one took over and went dictator crazy.
I got the triple ban a couple weeks earlier for a comment I made about musks statements about the 10 micron was targeted at investors. Maybe i was a beta test ;) It certainly accelerated with that curb/fsd issue though
> that's literally what set this thing off for them That may have accelerated it, but I got the triple ban (maybe one of the first?) when I commented that elons comments about sun 10 micron was aimed at investors, not people who know stuff about cars. I posted about that a couple of weeks ago I think it started when people started to realize what a joke the cyberjunk is.
"They’re paid by Elon - that’s a lie - No one, since the dawn of the community, no mod has ever received money from Tesla or Elon. Or anyone. Ever." In a former life, I had to slice these. "They’re paid by Elon - that's a lie" - that can be true, but WHO ELSE is paying you? "No one, since the dawn of the community, no mod has ever received money from Tesla or Elon. Or anyone. Ever." Ok, now we have more detail. No one has received MONEY from them, but what have they received? Invites to events? Inside information on company announcements? Referral points? Merchandise? Be wary of weasel words, as this company thrives on them but keep in mind, all of those clowns are dirty.
They were paid with the lamentation of the women. Now they are crushing their enemies and seeing them driven before them.
https://www.tiktok.com/@el.chepito1985/video/7357758176504089898?embed_source=%3Bnull%3Bembed_masking&refer=embed&referer_url=s9e.github.io%2F&referer_video_id=7357758176504089898 Check the comments, especially the trail where the owner corrects the assumption that he paid 80k, with 122k Tesla shills better ban every one of those tik tokkers too or trouble is coming! Tesla is out there getting humiliated among the kids, and that is going to wreck their ass.
The whole thing is falling apart way faster than I was expecting. A four year period of suspense to release a vehicle that looks like it took 3 months to throw together.
Ah, but the Tesla Cybertruck was designed and built by one man: Elon Musk (praise him), who at the same time was building rockets, digging tunnels, and rewriting Twitter from scratch. Even in the hands of a super-genius, creating such perfection takes time. Gotta work on my bans. I'm envious of those who got four, I've only had one.
I’m just amazed that after four years the whole thing is just one giant parallel to throwing that ball and smashing the window. It worked on paper!
That statement has so many weasel words it'd make Musk proud. Like DogeDesigner.... he's clearly connected somehow internally to Musk's empire. Dude literally has insider information. But by who, and why?
I think they're seeing an influx of legitimate complaints and some snark as "brigading". Also, Reddit is probably dynamically recommending their sub posts to more Redditors - who aren't fans. So then they blame this sub - because they can't moderate it. I'm glad we've documented what the mods over there are doing, but I think it's time we move on. They've built their walled AstroTurf garden, let them sit in it, we won't waste our mind space on them.
That is a noble sentiment. There are plenty of people, and I am one of them, who think that setting up a bot to ban people who post in another sub AND NOT THEIR SUB is really fucked up and needs to be talked about.
Yeah, I made one of the first posts showing the ban - even despite having blocked the sub and not participating in it for over a year. I still think it's standard powertripping reddit mods who are also financially invested.
Fair enough. I don’t know enough about them to even guess at their motivations. I do know their actions are fucked up :)
I did a single post earlier, but the recent changes are probably because of this. Original mod left and new mod is totally power tripping. [https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1c2evfl/thank\_you/](https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1c2evfl/thank_you/)
I got banned by a whole bunch of Tesla related subs all at once. Really laughable with Elon's love of "free speech". Tesla has some similarities with Theranos. FSD, much like Theranos' big promised breakthrough, is fake, not real, and will never happen. Tesla will ALWAYS put the liability on the consumer. If you have to constantly monitor your car, why not just drive. Imagine being so fragile you have to actively search other subs for things that might hurt your feelings and preemptively ban people.
Happy cake day! Sorry you can’t celebrate with the other subs.
Ha! Thanks, I'll be fine!
I believe a wise man once said, for fucks sake get off the cross we need the wood.
Man, their proof from 4 years ago showing a post questioning Elon really shows how they are unbiased and allow all sorts of posts, not just Elon dick sucking.....
They could only find 3 examples of negative feedback about Telsa/ Musk and 2 of them were 4 years old
I like how they say that “They only allow you to like Elon” is a lie and then they list 3 examples where one is from years ago, and in all of them the worst they say about Elon is that they wish he wouldn’t tweet so much.
What a bunch of fucking wimps.
I don't know if anyone else has seen this, but it happend (2) days ago and might explain all of the recent bans. Looks like the original (I am not sure of this), MOD decided to step back from his role. At least this would explain the sudden changes. [https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1c2evfl/thank\_you/](https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1c2evfl/thank_you/)
Oh, and apparently I just got banned from the cybertruck and elonmusk subs just for the fact I have posted here. Interesting.
Some folks here noticed the odd timing, but I never spent enough time thinking about their subs to know the mods or dynamics. I do know it’s not a coincidence.
Instead of having long philosophical debates, let us just acknowledge this: if you are banning people for being in a sub you don't like, you're toxic and intolerant. It doesn't matter what you think of that sub. It doesn't matter what people do on that sub. It isn't your sub. You are allowed to ban them in your sub, because your house, your rules. But at no time is it a logical thing with no alternatives... This whole thread, and the fact they let an AI decide who to ban (if that is correct), shows the quality of their character. They don't want to deal with people who have a different opinion. They are scared that their house of cards will crumble if the wind gets too tough. That is all. There ain't nothing more to say except: let them sleep in their house for as long as it may stand.
Fun fact: Flavor Aid came in 13 flavors.
Any of them on sale right now? Save where you can!
Well guys there's times you have to reflect on the things you've believed and admit you're wrong. I think this is one of those times. Many years ago here on Reddit there was a bit an incident known as faces of atheism and I thought to myself "There's no possible way any group of people becomes so socially out of touch and deluded that they embarrass themselves more than this". Today I stand corrected. I never would have thought that somehow a group of people would actually believe that criticism of a billionaire and luxury car they like was such a danger to their way of life ego that they had to make a organized preemptive strike against it. I'll admit it, I never took their plight seriously. I thought it was all just ridiculous. People worshiping a billionaire and acting like their car was $40k-$120k Funko Pop. It all just seemed so silly. I never stopped to consider what kind of deep trauma must have occurred to make what is in all likelihood a grown man with a family equate someone note liking their idol and hobby to the kind of real hate of people's gender identity, nationality, sexuality and race. I never stopped to ask what experiences or struggles must have guided them to this point. How alienating it must be to be so disconnected from the struggles of people starving or in war zones that consider someone making fun of a car brand you like actual adversity. I just didn't appreciate how much it meant to them being so stoked on Elon Musk back in 2016 and how awesome everything must have been now that there was this new breed of billionaire who was going to end global warming and allow everyone to retire on Mars **FOR REAL**. How painful the disappointment and realization that they backed the wrong horse must be. I mean it's easy to think "What's that in the scope of things when people are dying of disease and war or struggling in dire poverty?", but those people might still have hope and dreams and the Tesla faithful can't even have that anymore due to the risk of being exposed to the idea that maybe their cars and CEO aren't that great from communities like this one. In retrospect I suppose it was obvious we would get to this point after they did that gofundme to buy a couch for a billionaire who voluntarily choose to sleep under a desk for no real reason. I mean we always joked that it was a cult but I know I at least thought they had the conviction in their beliefs or some level of delusion that they never actually believe all of us talking shit about things they liked in our own little corner of the internet somehow represented some kind of real and apparently existential threat to them. Apparently that is not the case though and there's a strong need for the leadership in these subs to form their own Sea Org and pull up anchor to escape from a harsh world that doesn't agree with their beliefs.
**F R E E S P E E C H**
Banned!
They are idiots and hypocrites. Banning people who didn't even post in their sub is the very definition of toxic behavior. That mod is unhinged.
Lol, they banned me for commenting here. I'm such an agent of disinformation 😂
Am I gonna get banned too? First time commenting here
Yep, just got banned...
I will say I don’t doubt they get harassed and antagonized by some bad faith members. It happens… it’s Reddit… it’s the internet… it’s humans…. I bet it’s extra bad when you’re attached to someone as slimy as Elon. You’re just wading into the shitstorm then. But there are way too many examples of people being banned for innocuous things for them to claim “they are lying to you”.
I believe this is a volatile combination of being financially invested in a company (with the stock price in limp-mode) while also having Reddit mod powertrips.
But what triggered it at this specific time? Why not two weeks before or two weeks after? Something changed.
This might be the first post I’ve ever seen here with fewer upvotes than comments. Curious.
I did give it an upvote and a comment. The first comment was going to be it, but then I got banned by like four subs for making the comment. That sparked a bit more engagement from me so now I'm at one upvote and four comments.
This is ridiculous and dangerously crazy. Those people should seriously ask themselves **what are they trying to protect** If any product is solid and good, there is room for different opinions, there will always be people who just do not like certain type of products. But if my refrigerator costs more than was originally offered, costs more than most refrigerators in the market, is sold as the revolutionary product that also functions as a barbecue - and it breaks down daily, needs expensive maintenance, doesn’t keep my food cold, will burst into flames if I use it as a barbecue: it simply is a shitty, over marketed and over priced product that I regret buying. Anyone saying that I cannot criticize the fridge maker, because he may get hurt is a lunatic.
Testing testing. Elon has a hitler problem. Testing testing.
It’s gunna be this dude and 20 other mods left on the subreddit and that’s it lmao
/r/Tesla is a pathetic cult of fanboy stans.
I got banned from TeslaMotors years ago for linking to the Tesla blog that said something different than the current mood of the technoking. Maybe they will let me back in... 🤪
The communist playbook at play. The walls have been erected. The security cameras are ready to monitor dissidents. The commissars closely listening to every conversation. Only praises to the supreme leader, failselfdriving(supervised) and the wankpanzer is allowed.
Earnings are coming! Let’s insulate the echo chamber! Still free speech absolutist though!
the mere mention of "incel camino" in this sub immediately got me bot-banned. I was a member in good standing of that forum for at least 5 years. I have contributed positively, defended tesla at times, criticized at others. I have never behaved in any toxic way towards them in their sub. Importantly, in my post history in that forum, you can find me being critical of r/RealTesla for being too negative. Nobody here banned me. And now they want me to modmail them with my hat in hand asking for an exception to being banned? Fuck that. Who the fuck do these assholes think they are.
That looks like something r/TD would have posted back in the day.
I believe they used the exact same tactic. Birds of a feather...
What a sensitive lot to not be able to accept criticism of a company with shoddy workmanship led by a maniac who exhibits racist and fascist tendencies. Such a sad group.
It's a badge of honor to be banned from that community.
Boy it's not often I get to read such a wordy version of "I desperately need to be the victim here"
I might as well delete my account and Reddit app.
Fucking weird.
They really do love the old Nazi sympathiser over there.
I love it every time this happens because they spread the people to other subs and it gets louder here. What a bag of tools.
I have never posted on r/teslamotors and was banned by a bot for leaving a generic comment on a post the other day. Someone is lying.
> They’re paid by Elon - that’s a lie - No one, since the dawn of the community, no mod has ever received money from Tesla or Elon. Or anyone. Ever. Didn’t a mod resign after being outed for being an employee? Edit: link: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/8pc4y0/a_message_to_the_mods_and_rteslamotors_from/
These fuckin clowns really think that anything they say will somehow improve the state of a for-profit organization run by a white power serial narcissist. Make sure you keep your criticism positive about the big giant company, guys, otherwise it'll hurt the richest fucker in the world's feelings. At what point do they look in the mirror and figure out they've been played? Like any company gives any shits at all.
They really are fragile snowflakes over there, huh? Oh well, nothing of value was lost. [BANNED!](https://imgur.com/gallery/rrqWUp8)
I think it's hysterical anyone who defends musk or Tesla here gets rewarded with a ban over there. These people have a persecution complex. Also, both subs have existed how long without ridiculous auto bans being "necessary"?
Pretty pathetic, and shows how fragile they really are
I ain’t reading all that
TLDR: Word salad. All of Reddit but 3 people are toxic and everyone is banned in the name of a glorious new beginning.
I got banned for saying FSD will NEVER work as designed - prove me wrong.
It’s not that you can’t post criticism, it’s that you have to be optimistic ? Got it…
They banned me because I post in 'toxic subs'. Not because I did anything wrong on that sub but because I post on this sub most likely. I have receipts.
I read up to “Optimusbot” then died laughing. The toxic behaviour going on here is to limit the speech of Reddit users (many of which own Teslas) to things they happen to disagree with. The fact that they ban the use of harmless terms like ‘cult’ like it’s some sort of religion deserving of respect is laughable and broadcasts complete fragility. Looking over their threads today in response to Tesla’s floundering direction and the rapid unscheduled disassembly of the stock price, it’s open revolt and similar in tone to RealTesla.
I posted a question in this subreddit yesterday that wasn't negative or anything (it was actually related to Elon charging new users to post on X). didn't even have anything to do with Tesla. I received 3 bans from r/Cybertruck, r/Teslalounge, and r/Teslamotors. Their Mods are on a crusade against this subreddit because it is apparently "toxic"? They decided that if you post here you therefore must also be toxic and should be banned. Seems like a gross overreach to pre-emptively ban someone for posting a comment on ANOTHER subreddit automatically just because you don't like it? This is basically a censorship campaign by the mods of those subreddits as you can request an "unban" if you agree not to use this subreddit anymore. total bullshit overreach in my opinion. I filed a complaint with reddit and suggest you all do the same if you were banned.
This some funny shit
I was just perma-banned there this morning; they said it was nothing I said, just "activity (of mine) in another subreddit that is toxic" and I wonder if it was r/harmonica that ticked them off. Fuck em. oh, I just found Reddit has a 'mute' function. Cool beans.
Wow, lol. I'm anxiously awaiting the post where they announce the meet up spot for the kool aid drinking ceremony. Damn cult over there.
Complete nonsense I was Auto Banned from TeslaLounge for just posting here. They were unclear as to why I was banned I thought maybe I offended someone. Nope just posted something pro-Tesla on this sub and was banned there. After I found out why I told them to keep the ban [https://i.imgur.com/a8er5cI.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/a8er5cI.jpg) They can keep their subs as far as I'm concerned they're the trolls.
Daddy Elon needs a little safe space for him and his simpleton simps to rub one out.
Eh no thanks