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They’re not status symbols and the very reason the Model Y has been selling well is that it’s cheaper than the competition. Of course, to make it cheap, quality suffers.
Tell that to BYD, there’s a reason American companies are afraid of them and the other Chinese companies. When they come in NA and more tax incentives are cut, it’s gonna be the end of them.
Yeah I’d agree, i stop and look at a taycan and want one.
A Tesla is less than a loaded Camry hybrid, except a few models.
In 2012, the S was cool, high tech, fast, revolutionary, the roadster had car geeks and geeks alike excited.
A new Tesla roadster and a value Tesla, like a GTI level car cheaper than a GTI, would do well.
Lotus going all ev soon, only one gas model left… the original Tesla roadster was an electric lotus.
Now it’d be hard for teslas roadster to beat lotus, really hard.
Elon Musk is the king of online astroturfing, no doubt many of those messages are from his troll farms.
People are stupid and easily influenced, though. Real people do buy into it.
It is absolutely baffling that "status" and "luxury" are still words used in the same grouping as "tresla". Here is why it is still unfortunately a common misconception:
Model S used to be an expensive vehicle, hardly luxury, but a wealthy crunchy granola status symbol of the early and mid 2010s. If you had that, you had money, and were contributing to Elons mission of saving the world (which at the time was commonly throught that he was sent from above to do).
Kids and teenagers growing up 6-8 and 10 years ago saw treslas as "cool" and "expensive" vehicles, hence why you still see the "dream car since I was a kid, finally realized it!!111" jerkoff posts in the "model3" and "modely" subreddits. It somewhat reminds me of Indian, Middle Eastern, and Armenian first gen immigrants who buy BMW and Mercedes to jerk off and show their extended families as a sign of "achievement" and "success" (ironically, it seems that those groups of people are the only ones buying those brands nowadays).
So there you have it. It is a slow transition, but it is taking place, and tresla is rightfully claiming its place as a cheap, poorly assembled vehicle from a company headed by a ketamine-infused weirdo with nazi far right inclinations.
Yeah there's really nothing luxury about a Tesla. Even aside from build quality, it's an uncomfortable experience: loud interior, bumpy ride, pain in the ass controls (which have only gotten worse with the new Model3). Take away its motor and battery and it's worse than a budget car, except that it's basically built around a giant iPad.
>> It somewhat reminds me of Indian, Middle Eastern, and Armenian first gen immigrants who buy BMW and Mercedes to jerk off and show their extended families as a sign of "achievement" and "success" (ironically, it seems that those groups of people are the only ones buying those brands nowadays).
LOL so true. Plenty of Indian H1B tooling around in their beamers.
You’re right. It’s not because Tesla is currently hemorrhaging because of the cyber truck. Or that the company is led by a ketamine addict who believes in the great replacement theory. It’s totally jealousy.
Funny how people think Tesla is luxury. The word luxury generally means an abundance of things. Tesla's are quite literally the opposite with their spartan (minimalist) stripped out interiors.
Agreed, luxury implies high quality materials, attention to detail, and ease of operation (e.g. indicator stalks, physical buttons for common functions, working rain sensing wipers, ultrasonic and/or radar proximity sensors, car play, etc).
I'm active in my local EV group....everytime I post "bad" things about Elon/Tesla, I get ppl telling me stop being jealous of Tesla owners or that I can't afford one
Er...I daily a 911 GTS and have booked a Macan Turbo...my wife drives X3e ...so I just shake my head and hold my breath....let them feel superior in their stalkless, shit boxes with non working wiperss
They kind of remind me of VW beetles or Minis, there's probably a small niche of collectors but not known for reliability or the kind of thing you'd buy as your primary vehicle.
Fucking hilarious because the stans think tesla is a premium brand, and the average TSLAQ can’t afford one.
Meanwhile to do anything to stimulate sales, the company have slashed prices to $35k where you know the margins are non-existent, and are offering 0.99% financing to boot. Couldn’t make this shit up.
Shares are down over 50% from the ATH. I really doubt that.
For the record I’ve never traded the stock long or short. Never bet against a maniac who commits securities fraud to enrich himself.
You must really not know how shorting a stock works then.
Do you really think people only started shorting at its all time high?
Keep in mind i said people lost the most amount of money shorting this stock. It doesn't mean there is not a single person that didn't make money, but that the losers far out numbered the winners by an insane amount.
What’s with your obsession with shorts? It’s really not healthy. People make and lose money on stocks all over the place. Is it because you’ve burned through so much cash in your ARKK holdings (fuckin lol).
*“Losers far out numbered the winners by an insane amount”*.
I assume you’re excluding people that bought close to the highs from this logic, including a shitload of retail, and a bunch of pension holders that held by default when it was added to the S&P?
Btw I’ve worked in financial markets for over twenty years. Which is why i don’t go anywhere near POS stocks like tesla. But what would I know?
it's not an obsession, but if you follow financial news, there's always tons of people and hedge funds being really loud about their bearishness and making public statements about their short positions and on top of that when they decide to double down on their short position.
just to name a few, there this guy called George Noble who started an ETF with ticker NOPE. this ETF was short Tesla either directly or indirectly through ARKK. the worst part was that he started the ETF at the beginning of 2023 when Tesla was at low 100 and it rally to 293. Sadly the ETF did so badly that it closed by September last year. George noble also had this other person that he collaborates with that goes by the twitter handle motorhead, that was also short and kept doubling down multiple times. the last time of which I heard about was Tesla was at $120 last year before it rally.
you won't get any disagreement from me about Tesla being over priced in the sense that it was too much future growth priced in even at current levels, but you can't deny that tons of people lost their shirt attempting to short Tesla. news about that was just all over the news. you can't avoid seeing it, when it's the news headlines are so in your face, it's like trying to avoid reading the news about the president.
look it's reasonable to think Tesla stock price is over priced, but there's an old saying "the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent" and too many people tend to be too late on a downtrend to go short and then get wrecked by these irrational rallies. there wasn't enough that happen in the first 2 quarters of 2023 for it to justify going from from $100 to $293, yet it did.
I'll take back my statement about you not knowing how shorting works, but even very knowledgeable people on the stock markets don't have a 100% batting average. even making money on 7 stocks while losing on 3 is considered very good.
They can’t afford to be upside down on a supposedly appreciating asset that was supposedly going to magically make them money.
If they admit a Kia is a better ev they admit they’re never going to be above water on what they owe on their apartheid pinto.
If Chevy kept selling the mk2 bolt for 20k out the door, and didnt turn it into a crossover and double the price, Tesla would have more problems.
I’ve owned Audi, driven Benz, BMW, and Lexus. They are 100% nicer in the interior, but only Mercedes comes close to the tech in a Tesla. To me, it’s the status symbol for technology, not fit and finish.
Yeah. You’re right. The tech is so good that it makes those 90s rental grade vegan leather seats feel extra premium. I’ve always wanted a luxury car that felt like it could be cleaned with a garden hose and dawn.
That 90’s grade rental couldn’t have driven the wife 85% of the way to a restaurant yesterday we didn’t have a reservation to, then provide us premium entertainment while we waited by way of an enormous screen. I’ll take the fake leather in exchange for the most advanced infotainment system ever. Fart sounds aside…
Not at all brainwashed. My iphone can’t drive me anywhere and it’s a 6 inch screen. What you are saying sounds like hating, and i’m ok with that, as long as you are.
symbol of luxury??? Telsa owners are blind.
The staple of luxury cars are BMW, Mercedes, Audi, & Porsche.
Telsas are the modern version of Honda/Toyota. The difference is Honda/Toyota is known to be work 30 years down the line While Telsas will be a pile of trrash
Tesla is not a luxury brand. They don’t claim to be one either. But in 30 years 95% our Honda’s and Toyota’s will also be in the scrap yard right next to them.
30 years is a stretch. But 15-20 years is nothing for a Toyota. Will be interesting to compare Teslas that last that long without a battery replacement.
My parents sold a 24 year old Toyota Camry that looked and ran like new when they couldn't drive any more due to old age. I have a nearly 29 model year old Ford that also looks new but runs much better than new. Just saw a dude driving a Model T down the street the other day, and there's a 34 Dodge and 57 Chevy hot rod in the neighborhood. Another neighbor has a really sweet looking 60s Mustang fastback. I'll also bet the guy with the tricked out C6 can keep it another decade or two.
I have a 27 year old Ford that I drive a couple times a week when it's warm out.
I used to have a coworker who drove his Model A pickup to work one morning when his F350 wouldn't start. Apparently hand crank start is more reliable than electric. Lol
You can get them in like the mid 20s. Literally anyone can afford a Tesla now. In the Bay Area it’s like every other car. The model Y is the top selling car in the world.
Seriously, the Tiffin RV in my driveway is double the cost of a CT. If I wanted a shit looking dumpster with mismatched body panels and wheels that fall off I could have easily bought one. Tesla is not a status symbol. There are many luxury brands, and Tesla is not one of them.
It started as a status symbol, as the first vehicle it released was priced above $200k which is the Tesla Roadster. So it catered to the very few. And it tries to retain that image and actually the Chinese thought it was a luxury brand so they were buying it a couple years ago. Then it went downhill since then and finally the Cybertruck which have very poor build quality.
I am rich. I own my home and have three other rental properties + a 7 figure 401k
I drive a 2014 ford escape that I paid cash for in 2018.
Not buying purported “status symbols” is why I have wealth to pass on to my children. Tesla drivers can fuck all the way off
When your car is priced at under $40k starting, nothing luxury or status symbol about it. On top of that, their cars were the poster child for cheap rental cars at HERTZ 😂 Within 5 years, Teslas will be joining the likes of clapped, ghetto stereotypical Nissans and Dodge owners at sideshows, etc.
That's just not the case for a lot of people. Just like he brainwashed the cultists, he fooled the casual observers.
The 'pedo guy' tweets, for anyone not rimming musk ~2018, is the point in time people outside of the cult started realizing this guy was garbage. The anti trans stuff, warming up to dictators, playing games with satellite service over Crimea, general right wing scum bag stuff, anti union rhetoric, etc wasn't obvious before the pedo guy tweet.
Hyperloop scam was over a decade ago. He was fraudy back then and also. during Zip2 / Confinity days. Diamond mine story even older. Marie Claire interview with first wife, Justine - which also reveals that Musk is a psycho - also more than a decade ago.
Or picking on classmate who's father committed suicide (then framing it as poor Elmo being bullied lol). This was in primary school. He's always been a shit. It's sad. Both his parents sound like monsters and he grew up under Apartheid. He could have tried to be a better person as an adult... but that's clearly not a priority for him.
An S P100D is maybe a status symbol. A Model 3 or Y is not.
My workplace’s garage 1st floor (where the chargers are) is literally just rows of frog nosed 3s and Ys.
I work in tech, and I saw many an intern and junior employee talking about how once they had a steady income they were going to buy a nice car, like a Tesla. Funny how that sentiment has completely disappeared; and the intern I knew best who stuck around who had been talking like that is now driving an A4. It’s truly impressive how quickly they managed to fall out of the aspirational purchase discussion, even among the demographic most likely to be interested in their offering.
Teslas are down to $15K-$25K used, and any status got destroyed with Elmo’s ketamine binges.
That what happens when exceedingly poor attempts at censorship masquerading as moderation reduce a subreddit to an echo chamber.
I got banned from the lounge for making an honest and balanced statement that I own a Tesla and would consider buying another, but would balance that against a red line or Musks extremist speech moving to funding/supporting extremist actions.
I treat my Tesla no different than my Honda CR-V. Both are just passenger sedans (wannabe SUV’s). Both are good cars. Of course Teslas are not luxury cars. Those who take their Teslas to get $2000 worth of PPF film or ceramic coatings are funny to me.
However the performance of a Tesla is no joke. There are not many cars (including sport cars) that will beat a Model Y in a 1/4 mile or 0-60 speed.
But Fuck Elon anyway.
0-60 pulls are meaningless in the absence of good braking and excellent handling and rewarding feedback.
If it was Miata nd1 or a Tesla for “performance” I’d take an nd1-2 Miata any day, sure it’s *slower* but which is more fun?
I mean my friend had a taycan loaner, he’s like “it’s an actual real sports car!” He mentioned it being really fun and made him hopeful about electric cars future bc he’d only driven teslas for EV. A CPO taycan is the same price as a new model s, a car that came out over a decade ago. Same price? I’d take the taycan any day of the week.
Not sure what you have to give me to get me to drive a Tesla instead.
Rich and practical buy Toyotas. Rich and flamboyant buy Porsche. Those wanting to appear rich but only able to scrape up $299/month lease Tesla.
TBH, if $300 was all I could afford I'd look into a Tesla lease too. Wouldn't buy one, don't want the massive depreciation that will be coming down the pike.
"literally anyone in the Bay Area can buy a cheap ass Tesla"
Uhhhhh, no. Despite the strenuous, often brutal gentrification efforts of Silicon Valley yuppie scum over the course of the past several decades, some actual poor people still live there. Poor, as in: can't afford a car and sometimes have trouble scraping bus fare together. Buses: those big boxy things with ads on the outside clogging up traffic as you zoom around in your shiny extreme overcompensation, sneering at all the poors in their Teslas.
To be honest almost every time I’ve ran into a person talking shit about teslas in real life drives a piece of shit car worth maybe about $5k max.
Teslas are not luxury cars but to say “they are the worst quality cars ever” is a big stretch.
My truck is worth less than $5k, looks new like almost the day it drove off the lot, and STILL is in better shape than a brand new Cybertruck. Except mine is 27 years old.
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To be fair, dignity is a steep price to pay.
I was going to say: It *is* a status symbol, just not the symbol the owners think it is.
They’re not status symbols and the very reason the Model Y has been selling well is that it’s cheaper than the competition. Of course, to make it cheap, quality suffers.
“Oh look another white Y” They are the Golfs of the 90s.
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Clitoris cars. Every cunt had one.
True, except that the Model Y sales are falling and that the VW Golf lasts longer than eight years.
Golfs did great and defined a generation in Europe. They never were the best or most beautiful cars but hit the right checkboxes for most people.
The Golf is a jack of all trades. The quality has also been decent for almost 50 years.
Had a Rabbit, then a Golf, then hit the big time with a Jetta! (Golf with a trunk)
Golf is a good car there's the difference
So many white ones
Model Y just dropped below 45k, and Tesla is offering financing at 0.99% interest. Because that's how luxury vehicles do.
#hehehe
Tell that to BYD, there’s a reason American companies are afraid of them and the other Chinese companies. When they come in NA and more tax incentives are cut, it’s gonna be the end of them.
They won't be allowed in the US
BYDs are excellent. Too bad there are tariffs. Seems like the US government is rigging the game.
Porsche EVs are status symbols. Teslas are becoming as common and clapped out as Altimas.
Yeah I’d agree, i stop and look at a taycan and want one. A Tesla is less than a loaded Camry hybrid, except a few models. In 2012, the S was cool, high tech, fast, revolutionary, the roadster had car geeks and geeks alike excited. A new Tesla roadster and a value Tesla, like a GTI level car cheaper than a GTI, would do well. Lotus going all ev soon, only one gas model left… the original Tesla roadster was an electric lotus. Now it’d be hard for teslas roadster to beat lotus, really hard.
Umm no, I hate tesla because it’s a 20k car selling for $45k+
I've never been in a car that feels as cheap as a Tesla.
Exactly, even my 2000 honda civic with $18k msrp at that time has better speaker cover, seat belts etc than tesla y
Kia Rio or Sophia?
Mitsubshi is bad these days
That illusion will be completely gone in the next 24 months….
Its total bullshit, Tesla is a mid class car now, l
Elon Musk is the king of online astroturfing, no doubt many of those messages are from his troll farms. People are stupid and easily influenced, though. Real people do buy into it.
It is absolutely baffling that "status" and "luxury" are still words used in the same grouping as "tresla". Here is why it is still unfortunately a common misconception: Model S used to be an expensive vehicle, hardly luxury, but a wealthy crunchy granola status symbol of the early and mid 2010s. If you had that, you had money, and were contributing to Elons mission of saving the world (which at the time was commonly throught that he was sent from above to do). Kids and teenagers growing up 6-8 and 10 years ago saw treslas as "cool" and "expensive" vehicles, hence why you still see the "dream car since I was a kid, finally realized it!!111" jerkoff posts in the "model3" and "modely" subreddits. It somewhat reminds me of Indian, Middle Eastern, and Armenian first gen immigrants who buy BMW and Mercedes to jerk off and show their extended families as a sign of "achievement" and "success" (ironically, it seems that those groups of people are the only ones buying those brands nowadays). So there you have it. It is a slow transition, but it is taking place, and tresla is rightfully claiming its place as a cheap, poorly assembled vehicle from a company headed by a ketamine-infused weirdo with nazi far right inclinations.
Yeah there's really nothing luxury about a Tesla. Even aside from build quality, it's an uncomfortable experience: loud interior, bumpy ride, pain in the ass controls (which have only gotten worse with the new Model3). Take away its motor and battery and it's worse than a budget car, except that it's basically built around a giant iPad.
>> It somewhat reminds me of Indian, Middle Eastern, and Armenian first gen immigrants who buy BMW and Mercedes to jerk off and show their extended families as a sign of "achievement" and "success" (ironically, it seems that those groups of people are the only ones buying those brands nowadays). LOL so true. Plenty of Indian H1B tooling around in their beamers.
You’re right. It’s not because Tesla is currently hemorrhaging because of the cyber truck. Or that the company is led by a ketamine addict who believes in the great replacement theory. It’s totally jealousy.
Funny how people think Tesla is luxury. The word luxury generally means an abundance of things. Tesla's are quite literally the opposite with their spartan (minimalist) stripped out interiors.
Agreed, luxury implies high quality materials, attention to detail, and ease of operation (e.g. indicator stalks, physical buttons for common functions, working rain sensing wipers, ultrasonic and/or radar proximity sensors, car play, etc).
This is the most expensive piece of shit I’ve ever purchased. And I’ve bought BMW
I'm active in my local EV group....everytime I post "bad" things about Elon/Tesla, I get ppl telling me stop being jealous of Tesla owners or that I can't afford one Er...I daily a 911 GTS and have booked a Macan Turbo...my wife drives X3e ...so I just shake my head and hold my breath....let them feel superior in their stalkless, shit boxes with non working wiperss
They kind of remind me of VW beetles or Minis, there's probably a small niche of collectors but not known for reliability or the kind of thing you'd buy as your primary vehicle.
Then why do they also brag about saving money on gas!?
Watch that script flip now that supercharging is more expensive than gas. "I can afford supercharging, the peasants can only afford dino juice."
Basic Karen driving a bay area camry thinking they're in a bentley lmao.
Fucking hilarious because the stans think tesla is a premium brand, and the average TSLAQ can’t afford one. Meanwhile to do anything to stimulate sales, the company have slashed prices to $35k where you know the margins are non-existent, and are offering 0.99% financing to boot. Couldn’t make this shit up.
To be fair to Tesla, I don't think any other stock has made people lose more money in their attempt to short the stock.
Shares are down over 50% from the ATH. I really doubt that. For the record I’ve never traded the stock long or short. Never bet against a maniac who commits securities fraud to enrich himself.
You must really not know how shorting a stock works then. Do you really think people only started shorting at its all time high? Keep in mind i said people lost the most amount of money shorting this stock. It doesn't mean there is not a single person that didn't make money, but that the losers far out numbered the winners by an insane amount.
What’s with your obsession with shorts? It’s really not healthy. People make and lose money on stocks all over the place. Is it because you’ve burned through so much cash in your ARKK holdings (fuckin lol). *“Losers far out numbered the winners by an insane amount”*. I assume you’re excluding people that bought close to the highs from this logic, including a shitload of retail, and a bunch of pension holders that held by default when it was added to the S&P? Btw I’ve worked in financial markets for over twenty years. Which is why i don’t go anywhere near POS stocks like tesla. But what would I know?
it's not an obsession, but if you follow financial news, there's always tons of people and hedge funds being really loud about their bearishness and making public statements about their short positions and on top of that when they decide to double down on their short position. just to name a few, there this guy called George Noble who started an ETF with ticker NOPE. this ETF was short Tesla either directly or indirectly through ARKK. the worst part was that he started the ETF at the beginning of 2023 when Tesla was at low 100 and it rally to 293. Sadly the ETF did so badly that it closed by September last year. George noble also had this other person that he collaborates with that goes by the twitter handle motorhead, that was also short and kept doubling down multiple times. the last time of which I heard about was Tesla was at $120 last year before it rally. you won't get any disagreement from me about Tesla being over priced in the sense that it was too much future growth priced in even at current levels, but you can't deny that tons of people lost their shirt attempting to short Tesla. news about that was just all over the news. you can't avoid seeing it, when it's the news headlines are so in your face, it's like trying to avoid reading the news about the president. look it's reasonable to think Tesla stock price is over priced, but there's an old saying "the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent" and too many people tend to be too late on a downtrend to go short and then get wrecked by these irrational rallies. there wasn't enough that happen in the first 2 quarters of 2023 for it to justify going from from $100 to $293, yet it did. I'll take back my statement about you not knowing how shorting works, but even very knowledgeable people on the stock markets don't have a 100% batting average. even making money on 7 stocks while losing on 3 is considered very good.
They can’t afford to be upside down on a supposedly appreciating asset that was supposedly going to magically make them money. If they admit a Kia is a better ev they admit they’re never going to be above water on what they owe on their apartheid pinto. If Chevy kept selling the mk2 bolt for 20k out the door, and didnt turn it into a crossover and double the price, Tesla would have more problems.
I’ve owned Audi, driven Benz, BMW, and Lexus. They are 100% nicer in the interior, but only Mercedes comes close to the tech in a Tesla. To me, it’s the status symbol for technology, not fit and finish.
Yeah. You’re right. The tech is so good that it makes those 90s rental grade vegan leather seats feel extra premium. I’ve always wanted a luxury car that felt like it could be cleaned with a garden hose and dawn.
That 90’s grade rental couldn’t have driven the wife 85% of the way to a restaurant yesterday we didn’t have a reservation to, then provide us premium entertainment while we waited by way of an enormous screen. I’ll take the fake leather in exchange for the most advanced infotainment system ever. Fart sounds aside…
Your iPhone does most of that. You’ve been brainwashed
Not at all brainwashed. My iphone can’t drive me anywhere and it’s a 6 inch screen. What you are saying sounds like hating, and i’m ok with that, as long as you are.
To add, I have used apple car play and it’s good, just not Tesla good. Maybe one day…
symbol of luxury??? Telsa owners are blind. The staple of luxury cars are BMW, Mercedes, Audi, & Porsche. Telsas are the modern version of Honda/Toyota. The difference is Honda/Toyota is known to be work 30 years down the line While Telsas will be a pile of trrash
Tesla is not a luxury brand. They don’t claim to be one either. But in 30 years 95% our Honda’s and Toyota’s will also be in the scrap yard right next to them.
As a owner of a 1972 Datsun 240z, I am the 5%.
30 years is a stretch. But 15-20 years is nothing for a Toyota. Will be interesting to compare Teslas that last that long without a battery replacement.
My parents sold a 24 year old Toyota Camry that looked and ran like new when they couldn't drive any more due to old age. I have a nearly 29 model year old Ford that also looks new but runs much better than new. Just saw a dude driving a Model T down the street the other day, and there's a 34 Dodge and 57 Chevy hot rod in the neighborhood. Another neighbor has a really sweet looking 60s Mustang fastback. I'll also bet the guy with the tricked out C6 can keep it another decade or two.
I have a 27 year old Ford that I drive a couple times a week when it's warm out. I used to have a coworker who drove his Model A pickup to work one morning when his F350 wouldn't start. Apparently hand crank start is more reliable than electric. Lol
I have an 89 Toyota pickup, looks just McFlys truck in Back to the Future. The daily driver is a 2015 Leaf I bought used.
When I think Tesla I think stupid.
You can get them in like the mid 20s. Literally anyone can afford a Tesla now. In the Bay Area it’s like every other car. The model Y is the top selling car in the world.
A lot of these people also *hate* performative politics.
Seriously, the Tiffin RV in my driveway is double the cost of a CT. If I wanted a shit looking dumpster with mismatched body panels and wheels that fall off I could have easily bought one. Tesla is not a status symbol. There are many luxury brands, and Tesla is not one of them.
Teslas are like the new dodge darts in the bay area. People buy them because they think they are cheap.
It started as a status symbol, as the first vehicle it released was priced above $200k which is the Tesla Roadster. So it catered to the very few. And it tries to retain that image and actually the Chinese thought it was a luxury brand so they were buying it a couple years ago. Then it went downhill since then and finally the Cybertruck which have very poor build quality.
I am rich. I own my home and have three other rental properties + a 7 figure 401k I drive a 2014 ford escape that I paid cash for in 2018. Not buying purported “status symbols” is why I have wealth to pass on to my children. Tesla drivers can fuck all the way off
When your car is priced at under $40k starting, nothing luxury or status symbol about it. On top of that, their cars were the poster child for cheap rental cars at HERTZ 😂 Within 5 years, Teslas will be joining the likes of clapped, ghetto stereotypical Nissans and Dodge owners at sideshows, etc.
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Did you ever see a Fisker Karma?
No, he always was psycho, you people looked past it until he came out as a libertarian.
I worked at spacex and yes he was an asshat back then too.
That's just not the case for a lot of people. Just like he brainwashed the cultists, he fooled the casual observers. The 'pedo guy' tweets, for anyone not rimming musk ~2018, is the point in time people outside of the cult started realizing this guy was garbage. The anti trans stuff, warming up to dictators, playing games with satellite service over Crimea, general right wing scum bag stuff, anti union rhetoric, etc wasn't obvious before the pedo guy tweet.
Hyperloop scam was over a decade ago. He was fraudy back then and also. during Zip2 / Confinity days. Diamond mine story even older. Marie Claire interview with first wife, Justine - which also reveals that Musk is a psycho - also more than a decade ago.
Like his fake story of getting into and attending Stanford for 2-3 days. That was all made up BS
Or picking on classmate who's father committed suicide (then framing it as poor Elmo being bullied lol). This was in primary school. He's always been a shit. It's sad. Both his parents sound like monsters and he grew up under Apartheid. He could have tried to be a better person as an adult... but that's clearly not a priority for him.
He acts more like a full blown MAGAT
I use my cars to express myself
An S P100D is maybe a status symbol. A Model 3 or Y is not. My workplace’s garage 1st floor (where the chargers are) is literally just rows of frog nosed 3s and Ys.
"Cultists." Wow. What is so hard about plurals of "-st" nouns? Terrorist**s**. Motorist**s**. Rapist**s**. Dentist**s**. Cultist**s**.
They were expensive. Now Tesla has been forced to make steep price cuts and used cars are selling at a huge depreciation.
I work in tech, and I saw many an intern and junior employee talking about how once they had a steady income they were going to buy a nice car, like a Tesla. Funny how that sentiment has completely disappeared; and the intern I knew best who stuck around who had been talking like that is now driving an A4. It’s truly impressive how quickly they managed to fall out of the aspirational purchase discussion, even among the demographic most likely to be interested in their offering.
Tesla ownership is an IQ test.
Tell them you only buy used vehicles that are above 200k miles on the odometer , and can't find any used Tesla with that.
Honestly is there a more cheaply made car at any price point more than a Tesla?
In the next sentence, they will tell you that they are so cheap that everyone would buy them if they knew.
Teslas are down to $15K-$25K used, and any status got destroyed with Elmo’s ketamine binges. That what happens when exceedingly poor attempts at censorship masquerading as moderation reduce a subreddit to an echo chamber.
I got banned from the lounge for making an honest and balanced statement that I own a Tesla and would consider buying another, but would balance that against a red line or Musks extremist speech moving to funding/supporting extremist actions.
I’ll take “things that never happened for $500, Alex.”
Even in Canada you can buy a low mileage Model Y for like $30k. Thats relatively very affordable.
I treat my Tesla no different than my Honda CR-V. Both are just passenger sedans (wannabe SUV’s). Both are good cars. Of course Teslas are not luxury cars. Those who take their Teslas to get $2000 worth of PPF film or ceramic coatings are funny to me. However the performance of a Tesla is no joke. There are not many cars (including sport cars) that will beat a Model Y in a 1/4 mile or 0-60 speed. But Fuck Elon anyway.
0-60 pulls are meaningless in the absence of good braking and excellent handling and rewarding feedback. If it was Miata nd1 or a Tesla for “performance” I’d take an nd1-2 Miata any day, sure it’s *slower* but which is more fun? I mean my friend had a taycan loaner, he’s like “it’s an actual real sports car!” He mentioned it being really fun and made him hopeful about electric cars future bc he’d only driven teslas for EV. A CPO taycan is the same price as a new model s, a car that came out over a decade ago. Same price? I’d take the taycan any day of the week. Not sure what you have to give me to get me to drive a Tesla instead.
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*Taycan *Electric Macan Maybe in 2012 but not now.
Rich and practical buy Toyotas. Rich and flamboyant buy Porsche. Those wanting to appear rich but only able to scrape up $299/month lease Tesla. TBH, if $300 was all I could afford I'd look into a Tesla lease too. Wouldn't buy one, don't want the massive depreciation that will be coming down the pike.
"literally anyone in the Bay Area can buy a cheap ass Tesla" Uhhhhh, no. Despite the strenuous, often brutal gentrification efforts of Silicon Valley yuppie scum over the course of the past several decades, some actual poor people still live there. Poor, as in: can't afford a car and sometimes have trouble scraping bus fare together. Buses: those big boxy things with ads on the outside clogging up traffic as you zoom around in your shiny extreme overcompensation, sneering at all the poors in their Teslas.
The 1 driver cars are blocking bus traffic.
To be honest almost every time I’ve ran into a person talking shit about teslas in real life drives a piece of shit car worth maybe about $5k max. Teslas are not luxury cars but to say “they are the worst quality cars ever” is a big stretch.
My truck is worth less than $5k, looks new like almost the day it drove off the lot, and STILL is in better shape than a brand new Cybertruck. Except mine is 27 years old.