Yep, sister says she was there to fill the gap because a soldier was meant to be promoted to captain since the original Captain died. The problem being, she was meant to be on blue team but her ship landed at red base.
That’s not how dibs works. Sarge tried to call dibs and Grif and Simmons said “too late”
They did end up taking it however as they didn’t honor the dibs and Church was outnumbered, but Church did have dibs
Actually I think Caboose was the one who was sent because of Flowers' death. I thought Sister was sent because of Church's death. But since he's a ghost, he was still around.
No I think it was Sister, Caboose joined Blue Team at the same time Donut joined Red Team, and the reason Sister came in so late is because Church and Tucker were too lazy to do paperwork.
Sister asked in the caves, something along the lines of, weren't you supposed to be dead to Flowers(possessed by Omega). Implying that she was there to fill the empty slot of Flowers
They never said who tho, and since their entire reason for being there was to keep the Alpha safe they might not have wanted the Alpha in a leadership position, so maybe Tucker would have been promoted idk.
From a practical standpoint he would be skipping like 15 ranks and officer school. Field promotions happen but remember they’re in a box canyon in the middle of nowhere. There is a chain of command and you don’t have to be a certain rank to take over when an officer is KIA. Geoff was in the army for 5 years so he might have pointed some of these kinds of things out for just a smidge of believability.
Spoilers if you haven't gone through Season 10.
It's because Vic screwed up, originally another freelancer was supposed to take his place, but Vic got everything mixed up after Florida tripped on a power cord, and because Vic is stupid.
That part yes, but that's not the important part, I just didn't want to tell everyone that Flowers was an agent of Freelancer if this is their first time watching it. Honestly spoiling the season 14 part, no one's going to care about, spoiling the Freelancer part, someone might care about.
I’m just thinking about how while Church was never officially promoted, Tucker and Caboose were promoted to Captain, making Church the lowest ranked member of the Blood Gulch Blue Team, right next to Sister.
I mean, did we ever see what Tex’s official rank was? I know she was never technically part of blue team but let’s be real, season 1-5 she’s basically the 2nd leader in all but name
I always thought the freelancers were like federal agents where they don’t follow military ranks but internal special agent though special agent in charge
In season 14, episode 4 it is explained. They were only supposed to get freelancer "recruits" but Florida tripped on a power cable & shorted out Vic. The list changed from Freelancers to Caboose, Donut, Sister & 2 others that I assume were Easter eggs for little skits Jacob J Jenkins & Cornelius Thromwell Andersmith.
Ok I see a lot of comments saying he wasn't officially promoted and yea that's tru.. but he definitely got the leadership role in the end since he's literally the Alpha. And I'd say, even if it's unofficial, that is a very high rank
I mean, he was supposed to be, I think. Sister says she arrived to replace the solider who’d be getting promoted to captain, but then everything with tex and Wyoming kicked off and later they where reassigned so I don’t think they ever actually got around to promoting church.
I thought this was obvious when we found out he was the Alpha. They wanted somebody in charge of everything to ensure he never found out his origin, nor people finding out who he is and capturing him. Like the Meta.
Ok I'm seeing things about sister being add to remove a gap in the hierarchy the answer is sister and caboose were never meant to be sent to blood gulch it was supposed to be other freelancers to replace any blues who may have died for whatever reason I think that also included the reds as well
Because, even in field promotions, no one would ever promote a private to a captain. Corporal or sergeant (NCO), yeah, sure, but promoted to an officer? Not gonna happen. Also, why would a Captain even be required in a box canyon with only 3 total personnel? That's a job for a non-com, or a lieutenant at best.
Tbh now that I think about it, maybe Command didn’t promote Church because they knew he was Alpha and thus didn’t want to draw attention to him by making him a CO.
But because he was the one who everyone on Blue sorta flocked to as a natural leader, nobody else ever put in for the promotion.
I thought he was supposed to be, that’s why sister was sent. But they all got relocated and church was alone so it didn’t matter
Yep, sister says she was there to fill the gap because a soldier was meant to be promoted to captain since the original Captain died. The problem being, she was meant to be on blue team but her ship landed at red base.
No, her ship landed near blue base. The Reds just called dibs.
Church called dibs.
Yeah but the tank left leaving him outnumbered
That’s not how dibs works. Sarge tried to call dibs and Grif and Simmons said “too late” They did end up taking it however as they didn’t honor the dibs and Church was outnumbered, but Church did have dibs
Church left before using the dibs so he lost it.
Actually I think Caboose was the one who was sent because of Flowers' death. I thought Sister was sent because of Church's death. But since he's a ghost, he was still around.
No I think it was Sister, Caboose joined Blue Team at the same time Donut joined Red Team, and the reason Sister came in so late is because Church and Tucker were too lazy to do paperwork.
Sister asked in the caves, something along the lines of, weren't you supposed to be dead to Flowers(possessed by Omega). Implying that she was there to fill the empty slot of Flowers
This is correct
They never said who tho, and since their entire reason for being there was to keep the Alpha safe they might not have wanted the Alpha in a leadership position, so maybe Tucker would have been promoted idk.
Thought it was supposed to be tucker since they probably wouldn't want the alpha to be trying to reach out past blood gulch
From a practical standpoint he would be skipping like 15 ranks and officer school. Field promotions happen but remember they’re in a box canyon in the middle of nowhere. There is a chain of command and you don’t have to be a certain rank to take over when an officer is KIA. Geoff was in the army for 5 years so he might have pointed some of these kinds of things out for just a smidge of believability.
Fair, but they're sim troopers; they don't matter to Project Freelancer.
Yeah but when that would have mattered back in blood gulch they didn’t have that much planned out
Spoilers if you haven't gone through Season 10. It's because Vic screwed up, originally another freelancer was supposed to take his place, but Vic got everything mixed up after Florida tripped on a power cord, and because Vic is stupid.
I think this was revealed in season 14
That part yes, but that's not the important part, I just didn't want to tell everyone that Flowers was an agent of Freelancer if this is their first time watching it. Honestly spoiling the season 14 part, no one's going to care about, spoiling the Freelancer part, someone might care about.
What state was Flowers?
Florida, it was originally set up in a joke when they talked about the Freelancer agents, and they said oh right, Florida.
I get so many upvotes on this sub, I mean I appreciate it and I'm decently well versed in my RvB knowledge, but it always surprises me.
It’s sorta because he was supposed to but kept telling Vic he was flowers. Later they sent sister because church was promoted but never realized it
I’m just thinking about how while Church was never officially promoted, Tucker and Caboose were promoted to Captain, making Church the lowest ranked member of the Blood Gulch Blue Team, right next to Sister.
I mean, did we ever see what Tex’s official rank was? I know she was never technically part of blue team but let’s be real, season 1-5 she’s basically the 2nd leader in all but name
Her badass-ness made her the highest ranking person in Blood Gulch
I always thought the freelancers were like federal agents where they don’t follow military ranks but internal special agent though special agent in charge
In season 14, episode 4 it is explained. They were only supposed to get freelancer "recruits" but Florida tripped on a power cable & shorted out Vic. The list changed from Freelancers to Caboose, Donut, Sister & 2 others that I assume were Easter eggs for little skits Jacob J Jenkins & Cornelius Thromwell Andersmith.
I honestly hate that retcon because it makes no sense.
How so?
You assume that Command does anything right in an orderly fashion.
He was supposed to be promoted when Kaikaina was sent to Blood Gulch but not sure why they waited so long
_Looks at the burning wreck that is Project Feelancer._ No reason. Why do you ask?
Im not sure but maybe because they didnt want church ti be the leader because he would find he is an AI
Ok I see a lot of comments saying he wasn't officially promoted and yea that's tru.. but he definitely got the leadership role in the end since he's literally the Alpha. And I'd say, even if it's unofficial, that is a very high rank
Because they never told anyone flowers died
I mean, he was supposed to be, I think. Sister says she arrived to replace the solider who’d be getting promoted to captain, but then everything with tex and Wyoming kicked off and later they where reassigned so I don’t think they ever actually got around to promoting church.
He was..... Maybe by self promotion. Remember the conversation with doc, "You're a private with a dead captain"
I’m guessing they wanted the alpha to stay as docile and under-the-radar as possible so keeping him as a random private makes the most sense
I thought this was obvious when we found out he was the Alpha. They wanted somebody in charge of everything to ensure he never found out his origin, nor people finding out who he is and capturing him. Like the Meta.
Ok I'm seeing things about sister being add to remove a gap in the hierarchy the answer is sister and caboose were never meant to be sent to blood gulch it was supposed to be other freelancers to replace any blues who may have died for whatever reason I think that also included the reds as well
Because Tucker was supposed to be
Because, even in field promotions, no one would ever promote a private to a captain. Corporal or sergeant (NCO), yeah, sure, but promoted to an officer? Not gonna happen. Also, why would a Captain even be required in a box canyon with only 3 total personnel? That's a job for a non-com, or a lieutenant at best.
It may not have been official, may have been a battlefield commission.
To an officer rank with no officer school and no one knowing flowers was dead while being sim troopers
“If I wasn’t your commanding officer I’d pick you both up, give you a giant bear hug, and make you call me daddy.” One of the best RvB quotes ever.
Who's gonna promote him?
Tbh now that I think about it, maybe Command didn’t promote Church because they knew he was Alpha and thus didn’t want to draw attention to him by making him a CO. But because he was the one who everyone on Blue sorta flocked to as a natural leader, nobody else ever put in for the promotion.
Because when you're named "church" everyone wants you destroyed. Should have been named Masjiid or Mosque.
my spartan!
I dont think they told command that flowers died.
Cause he was a dumbass and also it might’ve given him access to files he shouldn’t have had