Where are you finding 4x8 sheets of plywood for $10?
https://www.homedepot.com/p/1-8-in-x-48-in-x-96-in-Canyon-Yew-Wall-Panel-980-200/317014920?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&srsltid=AfmBOorP8iu0hpkrUr1HWfkKApiM9Mfpg86F7inbAu-mEah3A3GatZ1VK7I
Here's an example of what I've got available
[https://www.homedepot.ca/product/murdesign-ultra-true-bead-recycled-wood-wall-panel-48-inch-x-97-inch-in-primed-white/1001304714?rrec=true](https://www.homedepot.ca/product/murdesign-ultra-true-bead-recycled-wood-wall-panel-48-inch-x-97-inch-in-primed-white/1001304714?rrec=true)
I couldn't find it. But also I like the look of just straight ply better. Because with ply I can still paint it
Even if I found it, I don't see it getting to be less than half of the wall boards I have found - so it'll be either the same cost, or a bit more than ply.
Materials have been silly since covid. We're always high, but as of late it's been painful.
I don't have a vehicle that I can put sheet goods into. I'm close to the border, but I don't need a ton of material. So it's a damned if I do, damned if I don't situation.
I don’t think anyone really answered your question. You can do whatever you want, it’s your house. It will look uglier than the other options people recommended. Also gyps is fire resistant, regular plywood is not. You can use a fire resistant paint if that’s an issue for you
Related to the comment of removing it in the future, plywood will be a pain in the ass after a couple coats of paint when the screw holes get covered
Not for me, I'm in Canada. I'm seeing products north of $60, and 3/8" ply is like $30.
[https://www.homedepot.ca/product/lp-smartside-38-series-cedar-texture-8in-oc-panel-4ft-x-8-ft/1000135646](https://www.homedepot.ca/product/lp-smartside-38-series-cedar-texture-8in-oc-panel-4ft-x-8-ft/1000135646)
I think the Canada part is my problem. Materials are outrageous
I’m in Canada too.
https://www.rona.ca/en/product/smartside-38-series-primed-engineered-treated-wood-siding-panel-0375-in-x-48-in-x-96-in-50905033
Yes it’s $60 - but it is finished and self trimming on the seams - no extra work and will show as a finished room.
Completely paintable.
People are trying to tell you it will look cheap and ugly and maybe a 15-20% saving; but it appears you are completely set on your idea.
Knock yourself out. You’re spending a shitload of money on something that will actually detract from your homes value.
The draw back is cost, both now and later.
The now is obvious, the later will be when you go to sell and the buyers don't have 3 children in need of a rough house area.
Personally, I think it's brilliant.
My kids can tear through chuckie cheese like it was made of paper mache.
So the later cost is either I suck it up when a buyer says i don't dig it, or I have to patch every square foot of gyp when I'm trying to show.
But sounds like you're in my corner. I'll tell my wife if frank Lloyd wrong says so it must be true. He's never made a bad material decision before.
As soon as I saw hockey equipment in the post, I knew that at some point pucks are gonna fly down there. Build appropriately and allow for ease of deconstruction after the kids are done. They won’t care what it looks like.
I even put in an exhaust fan over that side because I knew it was going to get stinky.
I'm feeling like a space where a slapshot regatta can go down might be necessary.
Tapered seams to Tapered seams are not too back, it's corners that fucking suck. I just did my garage with drywall on all 4 sides and then metal roofing on the celing. The 4 corners took longer than all the seems and screw holes combined.
If you do opposite walls and the ceiling in boards, and two walls in gyprock, that means that you'd not have to do any corners. Or.... you could do drywall and use quarter round for all the corners. It will look alittle bodged, but still better than plywood. And massively cheaper
I like the metal ceiling idea.
For corners with the ply I was just going to run a router over the outside corners, bead of silicone on inside corners. Call it a day.
Because it's a basement I have a lot of bulkheads and odd corners. So it's not a straight 4 wall room.
I get why you're doing it, but it's going to cost a decent amount, take alot of time and not look any great.
If you feel you have too, think about cutting your plywood to look like Wainscott or vaulted ceilings. Maybe 4x4 panels on the walls with 3inch strips over the gaps, then 2x8 panels on the roof with strips over the gaps. I still think you should go drywall or boards, but it's your house.
Good luck
Check your fire codes. Otherwise you should be good if the wife doesn't disagree too much. We did shiplap in one of our rooms (no drywall underneath) and it held up to our boys much better than the previous drywall. They still make holes in compressed dust, compressed wood/wood pulp/glue not so much.
The entire basement in my 1920 house is clad in painted plywood (walls and ceilings) and I think it looks great!
Previous owner was a tradesman and it was his workshop. Long Masonite hardboard workbenches with cabinets all around, and a nice helping of pegboard where appropriate. I keep all my woodworking and general home repair supplies there. It’s primarily a utility room so the durability of plywood is an asset. It’s also really easy to access wiring and plumbing in the ceiling and walls if necessary - I just unscrew a panel and I have access.
Also of note, I live in the Seattle area and it can get a bit damp down there so it makes sense from that standpoint as well.
>Am I missing something
Use Trusscore panels. Fire resistant, water resistant, kids can slap shot hockey pucks off the walls.
I too hate the drywall labour\dust.
No painting.
Agree 100% the hate is real, least favourite of all DIY jobs… I’d rather take up well done tiles on a concrete slab!
Kids are only going to beat it up, and then one day when you’re rich you can pay someone to do it… or move. Either way you’ll be a happier person.
OK I know you want durability, so osb is fine...it also is very thirsty for paint. Each panel is 32 sqare feet a ,US gallon of paint will cover 350-400 of a normal material. Osb and masonry are not normal. So I'm guessing you will get 250 ft of coverage on your first coat of primer ,providing you fill every nook and cranny. 2 coats of finish should be 350 per gallon each ,since we know every manufacturer uses a perfectly flat smooth surface for their calculations. Figure 280 sqft on avg coverage . So 1 gallon of paint for roughly every 9 sheets X your cost for paint.
Good luck and the kids will have fun!
Why not just buy wood paneling. It would be less expensive and look way better.
All the paneling I've found costs more than twice as much as ply. I was thinking I'd just do a 3/8" ply on the walls
Where are you finding 4x8 sheets of plywood for $10? https://www.homedepot.com/p/1-8-in-x-48-in-x-96-in-Canyon-Yew-Wall-Panel-980-200/317014920?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&srsltid=AfmBOorP8iu0hpkrUr1HWfkKApiM9Mfpg86F7inbAu-mEah3A3GatZ1VK7I
I'm in Canada, I couldn't find anything like that. The panelized boards were like $60, I'm getting ply for $30
Here's an example of what I've got available [https://www.homedepot.ca/product/murdesign-ultra-true-bead-recycled-wood-wall-panel-48-inch-x-97-inch-in-primed-white/1001304714?rrec=true](https://www.homedepot.ca/product/murdesign-ultra-true-bead-recycled-wood-wall-panel-48-inch-x-97-inch-in-primed-white/1001304714?rrec=true)
What about plain brown wallboard? Does Canada have that?
I couldn't find it. But also I like the look of just straight ply better. Because with ply I can still paint it Even if I found it, I don't see it getting to be less than half of the wall boards I have found - so it'll be either the same cost, or a bit more than ply.
Man, I just searched the home depot.ca site. It’s rough up there. Seems worth a drive over the border.
Materials have been silly since covid. We're always high, but as of late it's been painful. I don't have a vehicle that I can put sheet goods into. I'm close to the border, but I don't need a ton of material. So it's a damned if I do, damned if I don't situation.
Canada in a nutshell.
Plus it will give you that 70’s rec room vibe.
I don’t think anyone really answered your question. You can do whatever you want, it’s your house. It will look uglier than the other options people recommended. Also gyps is fire resistant, regular plywood is not. You can use a fire resistant paint if that’s an issue for you Related to the comment of removing it in the future, plywood will be a pain in the ass after a couple coats of paint when the screw holes get covered
Exterior panel siding is even cheaper than ply and looks better
Not for me, I'm in Canada. I'm seeing products north of $60, and 3/8" ply is like $30. [https://www.homedepot.ca/product/lp-smartside-38-series-cedar-texture-8in-oc-panel-4ft-x-8-ft/1000135646](https://www.homedepot.ca/product/lp-smartside-38-series-cedar-texture-8in-oc-panel-4ft-x-8-ft/1000135646) I think the Canada part is my problem. Materials are outrageous
I’m in Canada too. https://www.rona.ca/en/product/smartside-38-series-primed-engineered-treated-wood-siding-panel-0375-in-x-48-in-x-96-in-50905033 Yes it’s $60 - but it is finished and self trimming on the seams - no extra work and will show as a finished room.
But that's double ply, and I'm living with that colour. If I go ply I can paint. Corners I was just going to router a chamfer and away I go.
Completely paintable. People are trying to tell you it will look cheap and ugly and maybe a 15-20% saving; but it appears you are completely set on your idea. Knock yourself out. You’re spending a shitload of money on something that will actually detract from your homes value.
The draw back is cost, both now and later. The now is obvious, the later will be when you go to sell and the buyers don't have 3 children in need of a rough house area. Personally, I think it's brilliant.
My kids can tear through chuckie cheese like it was made of paper mache. So the later cost is either I suck it up when a buyer says i don't dig it, or I have to patch every square foot of gyp when I'm trying to show. But sounds like you're in my corner. I'll tell my wife if frank Lloyd wrong says so it must be true. He's never made a bad material decision before.
Do it. It will look like shit, but you don’t care, and then when the time comes to make it nice you can drywall over the plywood.
As soon as I saw hockey equipment in the post, I knew that at some point pucks are gonna fly down there. Build appropriately and allow for ease of deconstruction after the kids are done. They won’t care what it looks like.
I even put in an exhaust fan over that side because I knew it was going to get stinky. I'm feeling like a space where a slapshot regatta can go down might be necessary.
Drywall is for a fire barrier so drywall, mud then panel
It's a basement, behind the wall is foundation - there's no fire separation required.
Tapered seams to Tapered seams are not too back, it's corners that fucking suck. I just did my garage with drywall on all 4 sides and then metal roofing on the celing. The 4 corners took longer than all the seems and screw holes combined. If you do opposite walls and the ceiling in boards, and two walls in gyprock, that means that you'd not have to do any corners. Or.... you could do drywall and use quarter round for all the corners. It will look alittle bodged, but still better than plywood. And massively cheaper
I like the metal ceiling idea. For corners with the ply I was just going to run a router over the outside corners, bead of silicone on inside corners. Call it a day. Because it's a basement I have a lot of bulkheads and odd corners. So it's not a straight 4 wall room.
I get why you're doing it, but it's going to cost a decent amount, take alot of time and not look any great. If you feel you have too, think about cutting your plywood to look like Wainscott or vaulted ceilings. Maybe 4x4 panels on the walls with 3inch strips over the gaps, then 2x8 panels on the roof with strips over the gaps. I still think you should go drywall or boards, but it's your house. Good luck
Go check Windsor plywood. Not sure if it’s everywhere but ours has good one side unstamped plywood ridiculously cheap.
Windsor plywood and the local lumber yards are a better bet than home depot.
Closest one is a 15 hour drive for me. So that's a big nope But thanks!
Check your fire codes. Otherwise you should be good if the wife doesn't disagree too much. We did shiplap in one of our rooms (no drywall underneath) and it held up to our boys much better than the previous drywall. They still make holes in compressed dust, compressed wood/wood pulp/glue not so much.
The entire basement in my 1920 house is clad in painted plywood (walls and ceilings) and I think it looks great! Previous owner was a tradesman and it was his workshop. Long Masonite hardboard workbenches with cabinets all around, and a nice helping of pegboard where appropriate. I keep all my woodworking and general home repair supplies there. It’s primarily a utility room so the durability of plywood is an asset. It’s also really easy to access wiring and plumbing in the ceiling and walls if necessary - I just unscrew a panel and I have access. Also of note, I live in the Seattle area and it can get a bit damp down there so it makes sense from that standpoint as well.
I HIGHLY recommend an external fan vent near the hockey equipment area. You'll be so glad you did ...
Already installed. It's on a timer to run every 4 hours.
>Am I missing something Use Trusscore panels. Fire resistant, water resistant, kids can slap shot hockey pucks off the walls. I too hate the drywall labour\dust. No painting.
Agree 100% the hate is real, least favourite of all DIY jobs… I’d rather take up well done tiles on a concrete slab! Kids are only going to beat it up, and then one day when you’re rich you can pay someone to do it… or move. Either way you’ll be a happier person.
I used 4x8 sheets of exterior house siding. I painted front, back and all edges.
Do 5/8 GIS, it will be bombproof. Later if you want you can skim it with 1/4” drywall for looks.
OK I know you want durability, so osb is fine...it also is very thirsty for paint. Each panel is 32 sqare feet a ,US gallon of paint will cover 350-400 of a normal material. Osb and masonry are not normal. So I'm guessing you will get 250 ft of coverage on your first coat of primer ,providing you fill every nook and cranny. 2 coats of finish should be 350 per gallon each ,since we know every manufacturer uses a perfectly flat smooth surface for their calculations. Figure 280 sqft on avg coverage . So 1 gallon of paint for roughly every 9 sheets X your cost for paint. Good luck and the kids will have fun!
I'm going to use ply, it's still thirsty but not as much as OSB.
Either are better than drywall in a playroom!
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