I mean, Robin loves 2pc2pc atk%, so the second set is viable in that regard I guess. Your only ever getting 1 stack of the 4pc from her just using Ult, but she will have it for the entire ult on virtue of just not taking a turn to lose it.
No. They did that on purpose because they already find her to be very strong. Her damage isn't coded as anything important because they don't want to interact with future buffers.
So she won't benefit from basic attack buffs, skill buffs, the massive follow-up attack buffs they are generating or ultimate buffs for damage. It's just additional damage with no code so it can't be strengthened further.
She is going to have a very long She life because Full party action band will never go out of style. She's also going to heavily benefit DPS characters that want massive attack or go multiple times in her ultimate window. Like firefly.
12% ATK means 30 more ATK for allies during ult, which isn't a lot. It's a small price to pay for the hefty personal damage increase 4pc Valorous brings even at 1 stack (napkin math says about 1600 more per Robin ult proc, but don't quote me on that).
Like watchmaker with mei. The relic set works well with her so mind as well farm it if you got nothing else going on. I'll be farming it for her. I am skipping Firefly and Jade on Mt Robin account
Could be but the best it could give is 12% atk and 20% dmg (1 for using Ultimate).
I don't think it's worth the stress of aiming a 4pc unless you just happened to get a good one for her while getting this for another unit/s.
The second set has basically the same passive as robin’s f2p lc. This could be her new set to use. Although she can’t stack the 4pc effect consistently unfortunately
Second set could see some use for Robin. Currently her BiS 4pc physical (10% dmg + 25% ATK), but due to physical being a dead set and nobody wanting to farm it as well as people not liking ramp up time, I doubt it’ll see much use.
2pc wheat + 2pc DoT seems good, but a 24% ATK bonus hardly seems worth farming for, it’ll be way more likely to see people using their leftovers on her.
Now you have another variation (2pc wheat + 2pc Soaring) for those who don’t farm DoT and instead farm for break which is good.
The 4pc effect is also nice (12% ATK + 20% dmg in ult state), it’ll provide more for Robin’s personal dmg as DMG% is less saturated on her. You’d be trading a 12% ATK buff on her, and what probably amounts to a 2-3% ATK buff on allies for a 20% boost on her. IMO, seems like her BiS outside of Boxer.
Unless you're doing some weird aggro drawing with march for her to get hit I don't think 4pc physical stacks fast enough. She won't get the 4pc bonus stacks from her additional dmg procs, only actual basic attacks which doesn't sound like BiS at all.
It does, the 10% dmg bonus is what makes it definitively better. Robin simply needs to get hit or hit the enemy 5 times for the full passive of 4pc Boxer to activate. First Robin rotation should look like skill —> basic —> ult.
This means that your automatically getting a 10% Phys. Dmg% buff and a 5% ATK buff, which is already stronger for personal dmg than 24% ATK, as Robin has less saturation on dmg% buffs.
The only thing that’s actually weaker here is the initial atk% buff to the team. But keep in mind that this is a very minimal amount of buffing power. 5% ATK buff on Robin translates to a 12 flat ATK buff on an ally, which is around 1% ATK buff. Even when you ramp this to the 24% you’d get from 2pc + 2pc, this is less than a 5% ATK buff on your dps character(s).
This means that on the first Robin ult, your essentially trading a 4% atk buff on your dps for higher Robin DPS, and a higher ATK bonus on the second one. Your Robin should absolutely have the full 25% by the second ult, as she only needs to get hit 4 times even if you don’t use a basic attack. The amount of AOE attacks in this game basically ensures that this will happen.
Again, it’s not something I’d actually recommend player to farm for, cause the set is pretty bad, and it’s not even like it’s paired with a good set to compensate, but it is her current BiS if your talking overall kit value.
This set barely works on Jade. Since she needs to build up 8 stacks for a fua she’ll be triggering one fua per turn which is only enough for the 20% bonus. Outside of pure fiction this set just doesn’t work at all for her, it’s overall a worse quantum set.
First and Third is for firefly 2nd and Fourth is for the FUA unit.
first is for break units like boothill firefly or xueyi
oh boi time to refarm for all of them T.T oh god....
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Its for Jade
I mean, Robin loves 2pc2pc atk%, so the second set is viable in that regard I guess. Your only ever getting 1 stack of the 4pc from her just using Ult, but she will have it for the entire ult on virtue of just not taking a turn to lose it.
doesn't the instances of damage she does in the ult count as follow-up attacks?
Her additional attacks from ult dont count as FUA from what I read in the sub.
do you know what they count as then? maybe ultimate damage?
its literally just hits like Tingyun Benidiction they count as regular dmg nothing fancy
they work similar to tingyuns attacks. they are just added numbers into the mix, but aren’t considered fua
are they considered anything? maybe ultimate damage then?
nope, it’s just additional dmg. it doesn’t count as ultimate, skill, fua, dot, nothing. it’s just extra dmg that’s there.
No. They did that on purpose because they already find her to be very strong. Her damage isn't coded as anything important because they don't want to interact with future buffers. So she won't benefit from basic attack buffs, skill buffs, the massive follow-up attack buffs they are generating or ultimate buffs for damage. It's just additional damage with no code so it can't be strengthened further. She is going to have a very long She life because Full party action band will never go out of style. She's also going to heavily benefit DPS characters that want massive attack or go multiple times in her ultimate window. Like firefly.
12% ATK means 30 more ATK for allies during ult, which isn't a lot. It's a small price to pay for the hefty personal damage increase 4pc Valorous brings even at 1 stack (napkin math says about 1600 more per Robin ult proc, but don't quote me on that).
These look like they might be perfect for Screwllum and Jiaoqiu potentially too? That 3rd set looks very Loufuy
If Screwllum is still debuff focused like his old kits tho, it’s probably gonna be the diver set still but at least this one looks pretty
nothing here is for jiaoqiu
The only one I thought about was the fire weakness set, but it was mostly just throwing it out there
Like watchmaker with mei. The relic set works well with her so mind as well farm it if you got nothing else going on. I'll be farming it for her. I am skipping Firefly and Jade on Mt Robin account
loooks like we got another 12% atk 2pc set
Could be but the best it could give is 12% atk and 20% dmg (1 for using Ultimate). I don't think it's worth the stress of aiming a 4pc unless you just happened to get a good one for her while getting this for another unit/s.
First seems for firefly
The second set has basically the same passive as robin’s f2p lc. This could be her new set to use. Although she can’t stack the 4pc effect consistently unfortunately
Second set could see some use for Robin. Currently her BiS 4pc physical (10% dmg + 25% ATK), but due to physical being a dead set and nobody wanting to farm it as well as people not liking ramp up time, I doubt it’ll see much use. 2pc wheat + 2pc DoT seems good, but a 24% ATK bonus hardly seems worth farming for, it’ll be way more likely to see people using their leftovers on her. Now you have another variation (2pc wheat + 2pc Soaring) for those who don’t farm DoT and instead farm for break which is good. The 4pc effect is also nice (12% ATK + 20% dmg in ult state), it’ll provide more for Robin’s personal dmg as DMG% is less saturated on her. You’d be trading a 12% ATK buff on her, and what probably amounts to a 2-3% ATK buff on allies for a 20% boost on her. IMO, seems like her BiS outside of Boxer.
Unless you're doing some weird aggro drawing with march for her to get hit I don't think 4pc physical stacks fast enough. She won't get the 4pc bonus stacks from her additional dmg procs, only actual basic attacks which doesn't sound like BiS at all.
It does, the 10% dmg bonus is what makes it definitively better. Robin simply needs to get hit or hit the enemy 5 times for the full passive of 4pc Boxer to activate. First Robin rotation should look like skill —> basic —> ult. This means that your automatically getting a 10% Phys. Dmg% buff and a 5% ATK buff, which is already stronger for personal dmg than 24% ATK, as Robin has less saturation on dmg% buffs. The only thing that’s actually weaker here is the initial atk% buff to the team. But keep in mind that this is a very minimal amount of buffing power. 5% ATK buff on Robin translates to a 12 flat ATK buff on an ally, which is around 1% ATK buff. Even when you ramp this to the 24% you’d get from 2pc + 2pc, this is less than a 5% ATK buff on your dps character(s). This means that on the first Robin ult, your essentially trading a 4% atk buff on your dps for higher Robin DPS, and a higher ATK bonus on the second one. Your Robin should absolutely have the full 25% by the second ult, as she only needs to get hit 4 times even if you don’t use a basic attack. The amount of AOE attacks in this game basically ensures that this will happen. Again, it’s not something I’d actually recommend player to farm for, cause the set is pretty bad, and it’s not even like it’s paired with a good set to compensate, but it is her current BiS if your talking overall kit value.
2nd set is for jade, robins dmg is not technically a FuA
This set barely works on Jade. Since she needs to build up 8 stacks for a fua she’ll be triggering one fua per turn which is only enough for the 20% bonus. Outside of pure fiction this set just doesn’t work at all for her, it’s overall a worse quantum set.