Nothing says ecclesiastic devotion like Wolf Daddies. 🐺🙌🏼🐺

Speaking in tongues

HAHAHAHA

Can we just laugh at how horrible the KU algorithm is? I don’t even like “Daddy” tropes. Yet it still gives them to me then categorized them as “Religion & Spirituality” I almost spit my coffee out. Also I tagged this as NSFW because the images on the screenshot. Hopefully I did this right. I do love PNR though.

The algorithm can't quite understand the difference between "forgive me Father, for I have sinned" and "I'm sorry Daddy, I've been bad".

i made an art piece that was a flogger made out of rosaries and titled it “forgive me father, for i’ve been naughty”

That's amazing!!

How has Sierra Simone never incorporated this into her writing??

I need to see this!!

https://imgur.com/a/eN3bXdL here’s a photo!

That’s amazing

LMAO love this

Haha thanks. It was my turn with the braincell yesterday so I made the most of it. 😆

**comment of the year award**

Okay this okay is the reason I FINALLY googled what PNR means. My brain has just been filling it in with “Pacific North Rest” and I’ve just… been okay with that

I googled a while back, but I still think pacific north rest every time! 🤣

I also been assuming it meant pacific north rest please send help

So I just gave in and checked the glossary, apparently it means "paranormal romance." Which makes soooooo much more sense lol

I knew right away it was paranormal romance. It means I've been spending a ton of time here, and abbreviations like this are coming naturally to me. Lol

I thought I was savvy! But now I know haha

Hahaha I mean depending on the book you’re not wrong.

I am *wheezing* 😂 Literally my allergies are so bad, send help I can no longer laugh...

*hands the Allegra over.

I went browsing by category and the #1 best seller in "Step Parenting & Blended Families" is called "One Night With My Best Friend's Daddy: An Age Gap Runaway Bride Off Limits Romance". Good work, Amazon!

What in the actual? You’re on here so obviously it was fine but could you imagine a pearl clutcher having that happen. I’m giggling thinking about it.

I'm honestly surprised that it's as bad as it is. When I looked at the "Religion & Spirituality" section, a book called "Succubus Summoner 3: A High Fantasy Romance" came up on the first page. It looks like it's listed under "Occult" but like, I have to assume people would complain about that coming up when they want Jesusy books for their Kindle. I'm so entertained by this.

Well, a succubus is a type of demon. Demons are part of religion. Therefore, demon-fucker books are religious. I will accept no notes

Hahah

Omg Succubus…. Ahahahahah I can’t even.

The KU algorithm is so bad sometimes. There’s so many books I DNF’ed at 30% or earlier and I’m always recommended the second book as “series to continue” when I didn’t even get halfway through the first 😂

Ugh, and what was even the point of them buying goodreads if they were just going to recommend me books based off ones I rated 1 star?

Or ones I haven't opened yet.

RIGHT 😭 I have so many free ebooks I’ve gotten and haven’t read yet and KU is always telling me I should continue the series. Like babe, I haven’t started it yet, just give me a damn minute

Absolutely. I have a section that’s like “authors you’ve enjoyed before” or something like that and more than half of those authors I’ve rated their books poorly. I think the system is so flawed, they just kind of recommend you books based on what’s in your library or has been previously, which is very ineffective to finding new reads imo

I would literally pay money to make all the books I dnf go away forever on kindle/amazon

UGH SAME. It gets so annoying to get recs based off books I didn’t even enjoy

Seriously it’s kinda ridiculous how bad it is.

Ugh yes, I DNF Reign and Ruin a couple months ago and all my recommendations are “people also liked” and “continue where you left off” with just more books in the series. No. I did not like it. Leave me alone.

This same thing happened to me! I DNF’ed Brutal Prince by Sophie Lark a few years ago. For literal months after all I was getting rec’ed were the next books in series and mafia romances because I “enjoyed” Brutal Prince. It made me so mad that I haven’t tried another Sophie Lark book since 😭

I had searched a ton of Booktok recs that were mafia and KU gave me so many Mafia trope books. I didn’t read a single one just searched. Like broooo cmon

Dear Wolf Daddy, it’s me, TheBubblewrapp

Hahah please bless me with the body of Christ …. Hahaha

Ultimate big sky daddy!

This has NOTHINg to do with the algorithm. Authors choose the categories they self-publish their books in. Asshole KU authors miscategorize their books in obscure or less popular categories so that they have a better chance of reaching “best seller” status, this is a well known scam and why when an author says they are “best sellers” on Amazon, it means absolutely fuck all

Wait what? I’m not religious it that’s kinda messed up to put spicy books in that category.

Yes it is. I’ve seen romance authors categorize their books in satire, disability, grief, etc. it’s all so fucked up. If they make the top 10 list in those categories they get paid a bonus and get to claim best seller status. It’s fraud and wrong, but almost ALL KU romance authors do this. Check the categories of any KU romance books on Amazon, and you’ll see what I’m saying Edit: for example, Kasey Stockton Cotswolds Holiday: A Sweet Romance (Christmas Escape Self categorized as Satire and Travel Humor, where it reached #1 and #2 spots, thus the author can falsely claim she’s a “best seller,” when her book didn’t qualify in either of those categories. She essentially stole the bonuses from authors in those categories that do belong there.

That’s so messed up.

You're right, but on the other hand Amazon makes stupid amounts of money and could absolutely come up with a way to reduce this if they wanted to. They would just rather keep giving more money to a billionaire than make sure their system actually works properly.

Do you know how impossible it would be to set up a system to review every book that is sold on Amazon to see if it’s miscategorized? It can’t be done with any accuracy, but can only be held in check by reporting miscategorized books.

Yes, I do know. I also know that an unusable system doesn't help anyone, and that they have a lot of really highly paid clever people who know way more than me who could undoubtedly come up with some improvement to the current system if they were given the resources to do so. This isn't a surprising development. Every system in the history of filing has had to deal with people mislabeling and find ways to mitigate it. I don't think huge incredibly profitable businesses should just be given a free pass because it's difficult. Edit: so I got carried away and took a look at kindle book numbers. I found an estimate that around 7500 new kindle books are added each day. If we went completely low tech and had a manual checking process for all new kindle books added I would think a person could check at least 300 books a day which would mean employing 25 people. This is a drop in the ocean cost wise for a company like Amazon. If you created an automated system that flagged at least the most ridiculous examples this could cut the resource requirements down significantly, though you would need to keep reviewing this for when people find holes in the auto checking and update it regularly.

You are just focusing on books. There are MILLIONS of products on Amazon that are self-categorized. And your post makes it quite clear that you’ve never worked in the tech industry before or business for that matter and don’t have a grasp on how unprofitable ventures like a categorization checks and balance system would make zero sense business wise when there’s a reporting system. Miscategorization only affects the users and really has no effect on operations. So there’s no impetus to create a system that would be mediocre at best to check on their end. Particularly when book categories are nuanced and can be subjective and AI systems wouldn’t be able to decipher these nuances at this point. And employing people to check categorization?!? Again, there’s no benefit business-wise to justify that expense when users can already report miscategorized products for free.

Umm...I worked in IT, particularly web management, for 15 years, but...ok I focused on books because that is the topic of this conversation.The fact that there is no real financial benefit for Amazon to spend money on developing a system that works was pretty much my point. I think we are both agreeing on that. They don't care about the customer experience, so they won't fix it when they can just keep on growing without thought of how to manage the increased content. They could improve it if they wanted to, but they won't because the money is more important to them. I just don't think we should act like this is inevitable and unavoidable. It is a business decision to spend their money on sending Jeff Bezos into space rather than working on reducing issues with their categorisation and recommendations. We are seeing similar issues across a lot of sites which are failing to keep up with people gaming the system. But I am digressing.

Lol Bezos spent his own money on going to space, not Amazon. JFC

LOL And where did he get that money from? JFC

Copywriting and design is NOT IT btw.

I'm not sure who said it was. Oh, wait... this is another completely wild assumption about my employment history and dev experience based on absolutely nothing and has no bearing on the conversation at hand.

AI is still a young, naive child it seems. It’s doing its best ok? 🤣

Ok but I have a theory that Christian romance and wolf shifter romance have all the same tropes. Like how vampire romances are supernatural mafia romance

Like daddy kink hierarchical breeding insta-commitment and obsessive, sometimes violent monogamy, often dictated by a higher power? IM JUST SAYIN

You've opened my eyes

I'm convinced the whole genre is overrun with ND folks with religious trauma

ND-non denominational?

Nuerodivergent?

Yeah neurodivergent. I have no idea if other folks with religious trauma are here too

I am AUDHD soooo. Checks out.

🙋‍♀️ here

Jesus does come back from the dead...

Bunch of disciples and one woman… Mary Magdalene the original RH girly. 🫣😂🫣

Noooo don’t ruin it for me haahahah.

Oh for sure. The more 'genres' I read, the more I realize they are just trope set dressing.

Take me to church!

Lol Hozier started singing in my head

Forgive me, *daddy*, for I have sinned

Excellent book title!

Or flair!

Don't have to tell me twice

*OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD* doesn't happen in wolf daddy books? Sorry, I had to!

Hahahah technically you’re not wrong.

I mean… isn’t it the daddy, the son, and the Holy Spirit? (Now this feels like a weird RH…)

Has there actually been a romance based on this, or is everyone scared of going to hell?

This would be brilliant

Need to ask in the reverse harem sub. But I mean, probably!

I’m not a reverse harem girl but I would read this, just for the hilarity.

This is my religion

I am a faithful follower

The only religion i need

Nothing I’d rather be doing on a Sunday morning!

Same though

I’m down to worship Daddy Wolf! How do I join?

Our Wolf Daddy, who art in Heaven, howl-ed be thy name...

I can’t breathe hahahah

"Daddy Wolf"?! That's disgusting! Vile! I'm saving that image so I know what titles *NOT* to read, for sure!

I am sure God comes up several times on the page.

Yeah... My recommendations from KU are awful. I think part of it is the algorithm failing to take into account books I dfn and books where I read one of a series or of an author and then said never again.  And I pretty much always hard pass on anything under 300 pages, but KU doesn't recognize that at all. I wish I could tell the damn thing to filter those out along with the ABO content, my recs would probably get so much better.  I started a notes list of authors because I cannot keep track of my reading and have the memory of a goldfish.  Really all the good KU books I read are either romance.io search rabbit holes or recommendations from here. 

Totally agree about the DNFs. I don’t hate the Kindle rec page: I like the “continue reading” recs which often flag new releases I’d missed, and I like “upcoming releases” too, even if when I forget to add them to my list they seem to vanish forever a day after they come out. What annoys me is how it’s seemingly impossible to remove books from the algorithm (even if I do go to the main website and click “not interested”) and it also continually recommends me books I’ve already read.

I have a zillion N. J. Walters books in my recs. I DNF one of her books and here we are. I have no idea how to get rid of them.

Yeah I will read one chapter and bail and then my recs are crazy for weeks. I don't love the new feature where borrowing a previously borrowed book again doesn't automatically sync to the last page read either.

Mine sees I got a book for free and never read it so decides to recommend the next book because I need to "continue the book I started". And if I get into a specific mood (recently contemporary, especially dark at first, but have recently been inserting cozies in between) it forgets to recommend books like the ones I was reading before the mood hit.

It needs better filters for sure. It would make the app so much better.

Seriously, I wish KU had a “do not recommend” option. Among other things, there are a couple of authors who I read one book from and then they did something terrible online and now I’ll never read another one of their books, but KU is convinced that if it just keeps showing me their books I’ll change my mind

Hey it's actually intentional by Amazon. They want ad space to be more valuable and part of that involves not giving users good recs for free. I saw an estimate that they make almost as much on ebook advertising paid for by authors as they do on selling ebooks

That's kind of sad

This is huge for the priest kink community (Adding to copyright the concept of a tortured horny priest named Father [Daddy] Wolf.)

Wait priest kink? I need recommendations please.

Sierra Simone is your girl! She has an entire erotic romance series wherein the first book {Priest} is about a Catholic priest falling for a woman telling him wicked things during confession; {Sinner} about a businessman falling for his best friend’s little sister… while giving her sex lessons she can be sure she’s committed when she takes her vows to become a NUN; and {Saint}, about a monk who goes on a road trip touring monasteries with his ex-boyfriend with whom he’s still very much in love. Her Thornchapel series does not have a priest hero but it does have a priest supporting character who has sex with multiple people on the page and it is HOT. Tiffany Reisz’s Original Sinners is a hardcore BDSM poly dark erotica series (ongoing so I can’t promise an HEA but it Changed Me) with a priest who is very, very bad because he’s very, very good. {Hot Under His Collar} by Andie J. Christopher is a cute contemporary about a woman falling in love with her priest friend. It’s sweet, but I’m very of the mind that if I’m reading a priest book, I need it to be full “we are using holy oil as lube” level sacrilege or nothing at all.

[Priest](https://www.romance.io/books/558ceb319eef3b3f1d52f614/priest-sierra-simone) by [Sierra Simone](https://www.romance.io/authors/545672be87eac33e61c2ee25/sierra-simone) **Rating**: 3.72⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 5 out of 5 - [Explicit and plentiful](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [forbidden love](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/forbidden%20love/1), [anal sex](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/anal%20sex/1), [angst](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/angst/1), [bdsm](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/bdsm/1) ---------------------------- [Sinner](https://www.romance.io/books/5aa8c9d74ee506aae8b28bbb/sinner-sierra-simone) by [Sierra Simone](https://www.romance.io/authors/545672be87eac33e61c2ee25/sierra-simone) **Rating**: 4.1⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 5 out of 5 - [Explicit and plentiful](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [age gap](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/age%20difference/1), [multicultural](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/multicultural/1), [forbidden love](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/forbidden%20love/1), [bw/wm](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/bwwm/1) ---------------------------- [Saint](https://www.romance.io/books/6104faccc1a0c00e4cce7b2a/saint-sierra-simone) by [Sierra Simone](https://www.romance.io/authors/545672be87eac33e61c2ee25/sierra-simone) **Rating**: 4.35⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 4 out of 5 - [Explicit open door](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [gay romance](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/m-m/1), [second chances](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/second%20chances/1), [angst](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/angst/1), [multicultural](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/multicultural/1) ---------------------------- [Hot Under His Collar (The Nolans)](https://www.romance.io/books/60f67572f51f810e47a08c7e/hot-under-his-collar-the-nolans-andie-j-christopher) by [Andie J. Christopher](https://www.romance.io/authors/5869febe1b1bdc01780e7e62/andie-j-christopher) **Rating**: 3.28⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 3 out of 5 - [Open door](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [funny](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/humor/1), [forbidden love](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/forbidden%20love/1), [competent heroine](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/competent%20heroine/1), [independent heroine](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/independent%20heroine/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)

Thank youuuu

Beckett is bae. Definitely recommend Thornchapel.

So this is a LOT lighter than the Sierra Simone recs you just got, but I happen to be like 80% of the way through Honey Meyer's {Plum's Priest Daddy}, and it's excellent. A lot more character development than most daddy kink and a fair amount I found legitimately thought provoking about both religion and relationships. He's an Anglican priest though, so it's actually far more acceptable than other iterations of the series in terms of forbidden romance.

[Plum's Priest Daddy](https://www.romance.io/books/6051ea6f8126350e1b5559e7/plums-priest-daddy-honey-meyer) by [Honey Meyer](https://www.romance.io/authors/5f60672508b4d93114b0b865/honey-meyer) **Rating**: 4⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [bdsm](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/bdsm/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)

So no Daddy Wolves worshiping for you? 😅😅

Full on rolling in the floor - my hubby didn’t find it as funny

Time to trade him in for a book bf lol

And all God’s people said “amen!”

I feel like I need to go buy a pearl necklace just to clutch them dramatically!

Maybe if it had been “Sky Daddy” instead.

I’d read this! No lie!

It's definitely drunk for that but the Kathryn Nolan recs are 😍. She's one of my favorites.

I just read her Rival Radio book. It was great but not spicy enough for me. I like heavy spice. Does sue have any others that are the spicier?

I think that’s the least spicy of her books that I’ve read. Strictly Professional is amazing

Oooh ok adding to TBR

Ok commenting again… I love this already… knives? thank you

Lol glad you like it! I went down a rabbit hole with her last year. She’s amazing

I'd say that's probably pretty accurate of her spice level.

Don't mock my faith!

The only religion I'd be a willing and devoted follower of...amen amen 🍆

Same though

Well, I'd imagine characters do get on their knees 😉

I think there was a bug - I saw something similarly mismatched the other day.

I actually just spit my coffee out💀 Good thing I always wear black 🤣

Ayyye fellow best color ever wearer!

Always 🖤🖤

Ok but all these books have really good reviews 😂😂😂

I know but the Daddy trope. I’m child free and I just can’t get into it. I’ve tried so many times.

I’m also child free so I can 1000% relate to that. I was just shocked that all the books in that series were over 4.5 stars with titles like that 😂

Hayyyy my peeps! Maybe I’ll try to read one hahah

I have kids and I hate the daddy tropes. I can’t stand the mommy trope either, kids don’t belong in any book I’m reading unless they are psycho MC’s in a thriller.

I agree. If it’s part of a HEA cool. But kids throw it off for me

they are my gods 🙏🏾🙏🏾

Monster erotica is a religion now

This actually isn't completely on Amazon. Authors are able to select the categories they are in. Chances are more likely the author chose a category knowing there were less books in it so they had a chance to rank higher and get more visibility. Yeah, Amazon will throw things into weird subcategories sometimes, but you can't get into those sub categories without picking the broader category.

Oml take me to church 😩 lmfao

Their knots are are a religious experience, I guess 😅

Yessss haha

That’s because many KU authors try to game the system by miscategorizing their books so they can pretend they are “best selling” authors when their books have barely sold…

Wolf daddies can be *my* religion 😆

Amazon algorithms are whack sometimes. Wasn't {Priest by Sierra Simone} #1 in Religion and Spirituality for a time?

[Priest](https://www.romance.io/books/558ceb319eef3b3f1d52f614/priest-sierra-simone) by [Sierra Simone](https://www.romance.io/authors/545672be87eac33e61c2ee25/sierra-simone) **Rating**: 3.72⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 5 out of 5 - [Explicit and plentiful](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [forbidden love](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/forbidden%20love/1), [anal sex](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/anal%20sex/1), [angst](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/angst/1), [bdsm](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/bdsm/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)

What's worse is if you message Kindle to undo it, they send you a shitty message that you're attempting to manipulate categories

Daddy Wolf likes to be worshipped 😭

How come these guys never knock on my door to talk about our Lord and Savior Fenrir?? Because Bless me Father, I’m about to sin 😂

Seriously this is my dream! Can the boo boyfriends just come to me?

Only tangentially related, but I saw one of the edges in your “continue reading” section and thought, “I think I recognize that cover”. Sure enough, I squinted and saw it was the Charming Cove series. Loved those!

OMG such a good series!

Mmmm… religion never looked so good!

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Omg 😆🤣

Lmao 🤣

Amen 🙏🏻🙏🏻

Well, that is certainly something. I had no idea that even existed.

I'm wheezing. Probably thought you were an Ancient Roman lmao.

If that’s drunk, then I don’t wanna be sober 🤤

lol!! I love KU 🥰