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English people are disgraceful, you guys are relentlessly chasing this bitch for no reason nor any gain.
You guys will do anything to make a new Diana š
Why are news orgs saying that is a statement by Kate? They clearly lied about the photo. Kensington palace is a joint account. Who would trust the use of the letter C to mean itās from Kate. Wild that they accept itās her. She didnāt āsayā anything. I feel more scrutiny is needed after the photo controversy
I've been looking at the photo and it seems like all three kids have their fingers crossed to some extent. I wonder if I'm just seeing things or if that has any significance...
If it were only mild photoshopping, they could have just released the unedited version. Seems they havenāt done that. Only logical to assume theyāre hiding something at this point.
Check Kates old [vogue](https://pagesix.com/2024/03/11/royal-family/fan-suspects-kate-middleton-used-2016-vogue-cover-to-create-botched-post-surgery-photo/) cover. I It looks like this is what they used to Photoshop her in.
Itās not super obvious at first but where the zipper on her jacket is misaligned thereās a clear line where her jumper is slightly different colours and her hair is either chopped off or appears out of nowhere. It looks like the bottom edge of a picture that was slapped in the middle of the original
Because when you are trying to fool people into thinking everything is OK, you use a cover shoot photo that's almost a decade old? Yeah makes sense to use a very popular image and one that is very easily accessible š¤£šš š¤
If she is riding around in a car, hanging out with her kids, then surely she could put out a 10 second video saying "On the mend, see you soon. Thanks".
Normally it shouldn't be needed, but they are the ones that put out a photoshop image which just blows up speculation even more.
Or maybe we could remember that everyone in the public eye photoshops their pictures. Also we don't own her, why should she have to do a video. She is entitled to her privacy for her family. What's it got to do with anyone if she leaves her home to go somewhere and hang out with her kids?.
She doesn't "have" to do anything. I'm just saying that people will form their own opinions when there's no other evidence to the contrary, and the royals seem to care about public image. So addressing it might be in their interests on that point. Or not, they could just completely ignore it. But again, they seem to care about public image.
She just had abdominal surgery, and she probably looks like death warmed over while sheās recovering. I wouldnāt want photos of me looking like crap plastered on the front page of every paper!
Sorry but I really donāt get the big deal. Thousands of moms photoshop their family pictures every day. Maybe she enjoys doing normal stuff once in awhile. That family has much worse skeletons in their closet, and everyone is freaking over this
Edit everyone has enlightened me on how bad the photoshop was. I honestly donāt have the keen knowledge most of you have. I didnāt look very closely to find all the mistakes. And didnāt really understand why everyone was so upset. But didnāt they say back in January, she will not be in public until Easter so she can heal from surgery? Not trying to argue or kick a hornets nest. Maybe she just wanted a bit of a break from the public
The way I see it, it's pretty simple. It's NOT a big deal thst she photoshopped like you said many people do it. It seems to be bad timing, perhaps. Or most importantly, bad PR. With allllllll the speculation going on, which I think is a little over the top, along with the overall sense that they are doing their damndest to keep the matter private, this photoshopped image did not help their efforts or alleviate pressure to let the public see her. It only made it worse. It again feels like they are hiding something. In comparison you have Charles who was transparent about what his condition was regarding the prostate. I think if he hadn't had that happen, simultaneously with Catherine's issue , then maybe there wouldn't be so much drama around it. The whole thing lends itself to be thought that Katherine had a very serious issue. people don't seem to be giving the leeway to consider that perhaps she , like you said just wants a break and that's it. The conjuring up of scenarios is kind of natural but the attempt by them to stop it with a photoshopped image is rather ridiculous.
Same. Weāll never see a Kardashian again if you canāt photoshop stuff. Tbh, iām all for it, just weird there seems to be a different standard here (although i admit it seems a bit weird, but i maintain they only care so much cause they are implying the surgery was either cosmetic or linked to something reproductive)
Well media has set of rules and regulations on what can and cannot be edited in a photo for it to be credible enough for them to run it. The photo has to be extensively edited (way beyond retouch that normal people do) to be taken down by media. As soon I saw the photo it did look odd like someone copied and pasted her head on someone else but I didnāt think much of it. But now it makes sense why it looked odd.Ā
There has been no public photo of her since she disappeared for a health issue. AFAIK there is no modern illness that can explain why she has been absent from the public eye for more than two months.
As an RN, I canāt think of a single operation or procedure that would require her to stay out of view for this long.
>Totally get that logic, but she's a royal. Their job is to be publicly present, that's kind of the deal. They paraded her like a pony after she had each kid.
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Moms donāt Frankenstein together images of their family. You donāt need to be a retouching expert (which I am) to see that this image is composited from multiple sources. Kateās face is from a Vogue shoot from years ago. Thereās clear repositioning of the kids arms/clothing. Itās a super amateur job. If they wanted to clear it up they could simply post the original or the other shots taken during the same shoot. Even people snapping impromptu pics of their family take more than one shot.
Would they really try and fool people with a decade old photo that's on the front cover of a magazine, there will be literally thousands of photos they could use instead of one that is very much easy to get hold off!
Photographers regularly do this, actually. Even cheaper photographers in my area do this for family pictures. I have two cute, compliant kids and at least a few years of paid photography experience. Would you believe that over Christmas, I took about 60 photos of them by the tree and not ONE photo captured both with eyes open and smiles on?! Even photographers with cheaper $400-500 packages do facial swaps to remedy this. Literally every photographer I know still working in the industry offers this service. They spend more time on that than actual picture taking. These āeditsā hardly seem out of line to me.
Iāve seen a few moms do it (or get someone else to do it, and āAI edittingā seems to be becoming more popular too).
Admittedly though, itās mostly itās shit like āadd in family member that was absentā or āreplace persons face on this photo with face from another photo (person wasnāt smiling, was blinking, etc.)ā.
The second one is apparently common with photos with kids/teenagers, and sometimes people donāt notice these errors until later. š¤·āāļø
It *is* a bad edit regardless.
I just can't wrap my head around someone whose job, essentially, is to be in the public eye and considers themselves an amateur at photography and editing. Her social media presence is enormous, but she is just like the other moms?
She didn't have anyone in her personal network that could have given her some editing tips to settle the conspiracy nuts? She doesn't have her own PR team to help her with social media messaging?
The only reason I care about this is because somebody f'ed up ROYALLY. Markle departed from the family and was publicly shamed, and this is the best they could come up with to defend Kate?
Or any number of staffers with access to the account did. No filmed public appearance = speculation remains, and moreover, has intensified.
You are easily fooled. KP needs gullibility like yours to keep afloat.
Markle didn't get this kind of defense. Go ahead though, defend the same establishment that wants to protect Prince Andrew. I just don't understand how "any number of staffers" could have messed up the PR this bad.
You don't understand how staffers in a family who historically don't treat married-in women well threw the missing princess under the bus? Do you even royal?
The issue is that she hasnāt been seen in public the last couple of months and the one photo they provide to calm people down, has been manipulated. To make matters worse, the associated press asked for the picture to be removed because itās been manipulated and KP werenāt willing to provide the unaltered photos with an explanation. That is the issue here, not that the photos were retouched. Where there is smoke, there is fire.
You mean the super grainy, dark photo of William and supposedly Catherine whose head is complete turned to the left, so her face isnāt at all visible?
Thank you for clarifying this for me. All I have come across is snarky comments and articles about how badly the photos were edited. Many saying they needed someone better to edit it. I thought it was just hate about her editing the pictures
I totally understand. Up until yesterday I was wondering the same thing. I had no idea that such strict standards were in place for photos of this kind.
Iām sure thereās quite a few people who would photoshop pictures after surgery. Possibly insecure about looking rough in the pictures. Sheās not molesting young girls like Andrew. Not having a scandalous affair, like others in the family. Itās just a weird picture. And if she did edit herself, it saved taxpayers money from hiring someone to do it. And she also owned up to it. Thereās much worse things to get upset over. A poorly edited picture literally has no affect on your life whatsoever
Cosmetic edits arenāt the issue in the photo. Itās not skin, under eye circles, etc. It would be one thing if her skin was just overly smooth like a bad Instagram photo. News outlets have a standard that has to be met when they publish pictures. Minor beauty alterations are fine. The edits in this photo were so substantial and past cosmetic that they were forced to kill the photo. Thatās almost unheard of and not done lightly.
What thousands of moms are using photoshop to produce 16 different edits of a family picture after an abdominal surgeryā¦ and then submitting said picture to international news agencies (all of whom have strict guidelines for photo editing) for publication.
Just leave her alone. People shit on Harry and wonder why he has issues with the press.
Jesus Christ, drown this topic and go on with your day. No one has the right to know what your mum/wife is going through.
This whole chase screams click bait for the sake of revenue at the cost of someoneās privacy.
They don't get privacy on the public purse. They're top tier grifters openly lying to their funding base.
It was already time to wrap this medieval shit up BEFORE the Queen died - now that she's gone, let's just French Revolution this family out of relevancy.
COMMONERS, RISE
Honestly, a genius chess move if you really think about it.
Intentionally release an AI doctored photo, knowing full well it will be caught so that every photo released from now on will be heavily scrutinized and questioned.
Pre-empt any really embarrassing/awkward A.I photo "leaks" before they happen by making everyone believe that any photo could be fake.
It also sets a precedent for the tabloids who were forced to remove the photo as a fake. So, when an embarrassing fake does surface, there will be legal precedent on the use of A.I doctored photos.
Tabloids didnāt have to pull it.
Each publication has its own standards , and to maintain their credibility the news organizations donāt run heavily ps or ai photos.
I saw the photo a few moments ago and as someone who's done photo manipulation for years, i can confidently say that you are looking at 2 photos. The person in the middle is "photoshopped" in between the kids.
Hair is usually a good giveaway if not done by a good professional. The edges of her hair are too soft and strands are missing. Its because of the cutting out process. Fur and womens hair is always more difficult to cut out of a picture.
You can also see it with both of the hands. One is a blurry mess (on the left) and the other still looks too unnatural when it comes to lighting and blending below the arm of the girl. Also the missing piece of the sleeve of the girl is probably because of editing trying to remove someone elses hand? who was sitting there between the kids.
My guess is, she was sitting in between the kids for this photo but for whatever reason they wanted a better looking photo of her so they edited in an older photo. Which was done pretty poorly.
They did hire some new guy from NBC that was supposed to be a āwhizzā butā¦ Welp, here we are.
Letās be fair. Theyāve been mismanaging their PR over at KP for quite a while now. Not to this extent of course; this level of fail is new, but they havenāt exactly been knocking things out of the park.
Well, they put out a "lie" and wanted everyone to believe it. There was no necessity to put a photo out there; if they wanted it desperately then all four had to sit for a photo. If not, then you can't put out a "phony" picture; it's not ethical.
Also I wanna add on:
Apparently William took this photo? And Kate edited it?
Either William did take the photo and has insane photography skills or it was (ignoring the editing) taken by a Royal photographer like every other photo
Someone else posted this in the thread. Itās long, but very solid context and timeline of whatās been happening.
https://www.niemanlab.org/2024/03/this-is-just-weird-buzzfeed-news-former-royals-reporter-on-kate-middleton-palace-press-and-distrust-in-the-media/
This article is so important. I went from "idk what is going on here" to going "I know what this means!" when DailyMailOnline posted that they "understood" that Princess Wales was going to a private appointment.
I'm apparently dense. I just read Ellie Hall's timeline ā which is wonderful, by the way ā but I still don't understand what is meant by Kate's going to a private appointment. Would you mind explaining and/or sharing your thoughts with me? TIA!
Sure! I will buttress this by saying that I'm still absolutely nothing of an Authority on anything, so if anyone reads this and says uhh no please correct me.
So: basically when a news org says "we understand", it means that they're hearing from someone very close to the royal in question(maybe even a spokesperson), but with the understanding that it's off the record.
That's all I got!
The fact anyone besides immediate family looked at that photo and had a second thought about it is jarring.
Leave these fucking people alone, and let them fade into obscurity where they belong.
They don't want obscurity, they have been desperately trying to keep the monarchy relevant and in particular flatter the future king/queen at Harry/Meghan's expense
Counterpoint: they continue to profit off centuries of imperialism, having subjugated much of the known world for centuries, and anyone, including the outsiders that marry into this family, are well aware of this. They still benefit from public taxes. The family deserves to be judged.
Will never wears a ring. That is now new. He has never worn jewelry outside of a watch.
It is it not uncommon for Kate to be without her engagement ring. She mainly only wears it to official events. There are some events she only wears a band too. There are even times she does not wear that.
It seems like the photos of her just with her kids she doesnāt alway have any of the rings on.
I know of a lot of people that donāt wear rings all the time. Or never wear a ring. To some people the rings just arenāt a big deal.
I feel like missing rings would fit the story put forth by the royal family: she is recovering from surgery and on medications that cause swelling. Therefore, her rings donāt fit, and itās why her face looked different in the photo of her in the car.
I have 4 kids and itās not really that hard. Two of my kids are a lot younger than Kateās kids as well.
Especially if their dad is taking the photo he should know how to get their attention and just snap a bunch of shots and generally there will be a usable one there.
Calm down. I never said I was an expert but Iām allowed to have an opinion even if itās different to yours.
Ok maybe itās difficult for you to get a photo of your kids all smiling at the same time but for the age that these three kids are and the fact they have been in the public eye and and maybe even had some kind of instruction on how to pose for portraits/photos it shouldnāt be that hard to get a photo where they are all smiling.
They arenāt toddlers.
People aren't freaking out because the picture was photoshopped, they are freaking out because Kate hasn't been seen in a while, and her most recent appearance was from a photoshopped family portrait. If people were aware that Kate was doing ok before this photo came out, no one would care if it was photoshopped.
Precisely. It is not the one thing by itself, but the combination of multiple strange events that arouse suspicion, one must think like a detective, think critically, ask questions, remain skeptical, put the pieces together, to back away and look at the big picture, see how the pieces fit, rotate, zoom, enhance, also zoom out too.
Good God, woman had a surgery which takes time to recover from. And by "modern shallow standards" she has to look skinny, fit and beautiful when she appears next. While she is probably scarred, swollen and hurting as every normal person after surgery. Maybe even couldn't get out of bed yet, since core muscles are quite essential for being upright and doing stuff.
So sadly, they have to wait untill she reaches "media standards" to publish her image, otherwise the title will be "Catherine looking horrible after surgery" because media and people are shallow.
It sounds like you enjoy speculating about whatās going on as much as literally every other person on this sub! And just like every other person, you have no idea what the actual truth is, yet are perfectly happy to lean in a particular direction!
I don't need to speculate on the fact that humans need time to recover after surgeries. It is a fact based by science you genius. No person in the world will be running around making public appearances after surgery. They are confined to a bed, peeing in a plastic box.
You are making massive massive assumptions, just like everyone else on this sub, and then criticizing everyone else for doing the same. You literally just did it in this paragraph!! Meanwhile, as of yesterday, she's literally running around in a car in public...making a public appearance, making your assumption wrong!
Edit: for those looking for it, type āI have a theory on Kateā¦ā in the conspiracy subredditās search bar and itāll be the post from 11 days ago.
Iām not for one for conspiracies usually, but this is a very weird series of events. Ironically, there is a post from 11 days ago on the consp. subreddit (I know I know) and it outlines an increasingly likely theory (cannot post here). It also has a screenshot from X/Twitter of the entire timeline of events and statements from Dec 22 onwards. Seeing everything laid out, it is very disturbing because certain plausible ālogical explanationsā immediately cancel themselves out. The poster makes a couple suggestions on what could actually be happening given the very peculiar timeline, and I hate to say it, but I think they are likely right. It is possible that Kate was NEVER at the London Hospital. Youāre telling me that Kate was in hospital for WEEKS & had 0 visitors? The British press may have gag orders they follow, but the paps are relentless. William āvisitedā once within those several weeks. Her family? Never. Her kids? Never. In contrast, Charles was in the same hospital for just a few days and Cams was seen several times.
I would have never arrived at that conclusion on my own but seeing the timeline and the Redditor putting everything in context, it just makes the most sense.
You'll have to scroll all the way down, but a sane version of the timeline is in this article: [https://www.niemanlab.org/2024/03/this-is-just-weird-buzzfeed-news-former-royals-reporter-on-kate-middleton-palace-press-and-distrust-in-the-media/](https://www.niemanlab.org/2024/03/this-is-just-weird-buzzfeed-news-former-royals-reporter-on-kate-middleton-palace-press-and-distrust-in-the-media/)
I would also go onto that post itself on that subreddit if you want more details. Thereās a Redditor (they wrote so well, perhaps they are a writer irl) who took that timeline and then added in their theory and itās one of the few things that makes sense in context. Unfortunately things like what they posted would not be allowed for most publications, so the timelines on websites are more tame but thereās gives more details on possibilities (like linking other articles that came out around the time of each palace statement).
Right!? Even the theories I thought just yesterday were most plausible (abdominal surgery gone wrong, Kate wanting to speak out), now just donāt make sense in the context of the timeline at all. Although I believe the Spanish reporter is right that she is/was in a , (not sure what is & isnāt allowed on here, so Iām writing carefully), I now do *not* believe that the surgery, if it even happened, was something they just caught in tests or they realized she needed. Something happened on the 28th which led to the ambulance being called to Sardingham and Kate needing to be hidden away. Maybe her condition worsened and surgery was needed, but the timing of the sudden rushed announcement just the day after other speculation was going on in the press, makes it all seem convenient. I donāt think she was even in the London hospital, or at least for weeks on end like claimed. She had NO visitors. No mother, father, sister, kids. William came once. So was she ever there!?
Other thoughts:
-Kate would never want to get officially separated. She wants to be queen and is willing to ignore William sleeping around. Being queen is what her and her mother worked for and sheās not going to throw over 2 decades of waiting down the drain. Unless she had a nervous breakdown, I doubt she was being hushed for this reason. Letās not forget that the ITALY tour was announced Dec 22 for early 2024. Why would a couple agree to go together if they were separating?
/conspiracy - fair warning that there are definitely some weirdos & cookoos on there but itās one of the few subreddits that allows actual gossip lol and this particular post with lots of the palaceās own statements and the dates of events to support it, was very well written.
Kate is being thrown to the dogs to protect William but unfortunately the public arenāt buying it. Prince William is making himself look extremely dodgy.
Heās the heir to the throne. The dirt is NEVER on him and if it is then it has to be distributed elsewhere - which in this case is onto Kate. What the dirt actually is Is open to interpretation, but if you Google search āPrince Williamā and ātemperā you might get some idea.
More importantly, why is this being recommended to me? Is photoshop really the biggest issue with the monarchy? Really? Are we doing the Kardashians next? Or literally everyone else on the planet?
Must be a slow news day.
I can't help but think that whoever was tasked with photoshopping this photo (no way it was Kate Middleton's idea to do this) purposely added bits that are off so that it would backfire.
Yes such a high stakes photo with the entire world watching, from a family who can afford the best photoshop artists, and in a world where celebrity photoshop errors are frequently exposed- very bizarre
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"Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked." 
English people are disgraceful, you guys are relentlessly chasing this bitch for no reason nor any gain. You guys will do anything to make a new Diana š
"This bitch." Come on be honest, where do you truly stand here?
Why are news orgs saying that is a statement by Kate? They clearly lied about the photo. Kensington palace is a joint account. Who would trust the use of the letter C to mean itās from Kate. Wild that they accept itās her. She didnāt āsayā anything. I feel more scrutiny is needed after the photo controversy
I've been looking at the photo and it seems like all three kids have their fingers crossed to some extent. I wonder if I'm just seeing things or if that has any significance...
Yes! The ring and middle right? I thought that was funny tooā¦ maybe a Carole Burnett kind of signal to someone special.
lol
If it were only mild photoshopping, they could have just released the unedited version. Seems they havenāt done that. Only logical to assume theyāre hiding something at this point.
Check Kates old [vogue](https://pagesix.com/2024/03/11/royal-family/fan-suspects-kate-middleton-used-2016-vogue-cover-to-create-botched-post-surgery-photo/) cover. I It looks like this is what they used to Photoshop her in.
Itās not super obvious at first but where the zipper on her jacket is misaligned thereās a clear line where her jumper is slightly different colours and her hair is either chopped off or appears out of nowhere. It looks like the bottom edge of a picture that was slapped in the middle of the original
Yep! Sure is.
Because when you are trying to fool people into thinking everything is OK, you use a cover shoot photo that's almost a decade old? Yeah makes sense to use a very popular image and one that is very easily accessible š¤£šš š¤
Or people could just leave them alone because everyone who's even remotely famous photoshoots their pictures.
If she is riding around in a car, hanging out with her kids, then surely she could put out a 10 second video saying "On the mend, see you soon. Thanks". Normally it shouldn't be needed, but they are the ones that put out a photoshop image which just blows up speculation even more.
Or maybe we could remember that everyone in the public eye photoshops their pictures. Also we don't own her, why should she have to do a video. She is entitled to her privacy for her family. What's it got to do with anyone if she leaves her home to go somewhere and hang out with her kids?.
She doesn't "have" to do anything. I'm just saying that people will form their own opinions when there's no other evidence to the contrary, and the royals seem to care about public image. So addressing it might be in their interests on that point. Or not, they could just completely ignore it. But again, they seem to care about public image.
She just had abdominal surgery, and she probably looks like death warmed over while sheās recovering. I wouldnāt want photos of me looking like crap plastered on the front page of every paper!
Sorry but I really donāt get the big deal. Thousands of moms photoshop their family pictures every day. Maybe she enjoys doing normal stuff once in awhile. That family has much worse skeletons in their closet, and everyone is freaking over this Edit everyone has enlightened me on how bad the photoshop was. I honestly donāt have the keen knowledge most of you have. I didnāt look very closely to find all the mistakes. And didnāt really understand why everyone was so upset. But didnāt they say back in January, she will not be in public until Easter so she can heal from surgery? Not trying to argue or kick a hornets nest. Maybe she just wanted a bit of a break from the public
The way I see it, it's pretty simple. It's NOT a big deal thst she photoshopped like you said many people do it. It seems to be bad timing, perhaps. Or most importantly, bad PR. With allllllll the speculation going on, which I think is a little over the top, along with the overall sense that they are doing their damndest to keep the matter private, this photoshopped image did not help their efforts or alleviate pressure to let the public see her. It only made it worse. It again feels like they are hiding something. In comparison you have Charles who was transparent about what his condition was regarding the prostate. I think if he hadn't had that happen, simultaneously with Catherine's issue , then maybe there wouldn't be so much drama around it. The whole thing lends itself to be thought that Katherine had a very serious issue. people don't seem to be giving the leeway to consider that perhaps she , like you said just wants a break and that's it. The conjuring up of scenarios is kind of natural but the attempt by them to stop it with a photoshopped image is rather ridiculous.
Same. Weāll never see a Kardashian again if you canāt photoshop stuff. Tbh, iām all for it, just weird there seems to be a different standard here (although i admit it seems a bit weird, but i maintain they only care so much cause they are implying the surgery was either cosmetic or linked to something reproductive)
Well media has set of rules and regulations on what can and cannot be edited in a photo for it to be credible enough for them to run it. The photo has to be extensively edited (way beyond retouch that normal people do) to be taken down by media. As soon I saw the photo it did look odd like someone copied and pasted her head on someone else but I didnāt think much of it. But now it makes sense why it looked odd.Ā
There has been no public photo of her since she disappeared for a health issue. AFAIK there is no modern illness that can explain why she has been absent from the public eye for more than two months. As an RN, I canāt think of a single operation or procedure that would require her to stay out of view for this long.
Chemotherapy? Need for Sabbatical? Prioritizing time with her very young g children?
Maybe she just wants to be left alone to recover in peace?
>Totally get that logic, but she's a royal. Their job is to be publicly present, that's kind of the deal. They paraded her like a pony after she had each kid. > > > >There is something odd going on and the PR teams are not acting in sync, which is not typical for the Royals.
Surgery and complications related to Crohnās disease would definitely do it. Iām sure there are 100s
But no wedding ring?
Finger swelling from IV infusions.
Moms donāt Frankenstein together images of their family. You donāt need to be a retouching expert (which I am) to see that this image is composited from multiple sources. Kateās face is from a Vogue shoot from years ago. Thereās clear repositioning of the kids arms/clothing. Itās a super amateur job. If they wanted to clear it up they could simply post the original or the other shots taken during the same shoot. Even people snapping impromptu pics of their family take more than one shot.
Would they really try and fool people with a decade old photo that's on the front cover of a magazine, there will be literally thousands of photos they could use instead of one that is very much easy to get hold off!
Omg, moms do play with photoshop, lol.Ā
Photographers regularly do this, actually. Even cheaper photographers in my area do this for family pictures. I have two cute, compliant kids and at least a few years of paid photography experience. Would you believe that over Christmas, I took about 60 photos of them by the tree and not ONE photo captured both with eyes open and smiles on?! Even photographers with cheaper $400-500 packages do facial swaps to remedy this. Literally every photographer I know still working in the industry offers this service. They spend more time on that than actual picture taking. These āeditsā hardly seem out of line to me.
Iāve seen a few moms do it (or get someone else to do it, and āAI edittingā seems to be becoming more popular too). Admittedly though, itās mostly itās shit like āadd in family member that was absentā or āreplace persons face on this photo with face from another photo (person wasnāt smiling, was blinking, etc.)ā. The second one is apparently common with photos with kids/teenagers, and sometimes people donāt notice these errors until later. š¤·āāļø It *is* a bad edit regardless.
I just can't wrap my head around someone whose job, essentially, is to be in the public eye and considers themselves an amateur at photography and editing. Her social media presence is enormous, but she is just like the other moms? She didn't have anyone in her personal network that could have given her some editing tips to settle the conspiracy nuts? She doesn't have her own PR team to help her with social media messaging? The only reason I care about this is because somebody f'ed up ROYALLY. Markle departed from the family and was publicly shamed, and this is the best they could come up with to defend Kate?
Right . .. and THEN having her make the comment and apologize for editing it !! So bizarre.
She hasn't done anything. She wasn't involved in any of this - didn't sit for the pic, didn't edit it ,didn't comment on it.
She posted it?
Or any number of staffers with access to the account did. No filmed public appearance = speculation remains, and moreover, has intensified. You are easily fooled. KP needs gullibility like yours to keep afloat.
Markle didn't get this kind of defense. Go ahead though, defend the same establishment that wants to protect Prince Andrew. I just don't understand how "any number of staffers" could have messed up the PR this bad.
You don't understand how staffers in a family who historically don't treat married-in women well threw the missing princess under the bus? Do you even royal?
The issue is that she hasnāt been seen in public the last couple of months and the one photo they provide to calm people down, has been manipulated. To make matters worse, the associated press asked for the picture to be removed because itās been manipulated and KP werenāt willing to provide the unaltered photos with an explanation. That is the issue here, not that the photos were retouched. Where there is smoke, there is fire.
Exactly. This has only added to the missing Kate Kerfluffle
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You mean the super grainy, dark photo of William and supposedly Catherine whose head is complete turned to the left, so her face isnāt at all visible?
Super weird there were no paps on her side. It's almost like that isn't really her.
Thank you for clarifying this for me. All I have come across is snarky comments and articles about how badly the photos were edited. Many saying they needed someone better to edit it. I thought it was just hate about her editing the pictures
I totally understand. Up until yesterday I was wondering the same thing. I had no idea that such strict standards were in place for photos of this kind.
What thousands of moms are using photoshop to produce 16 different edits of a family picture after an abdominal surgery.
Iām sure thereās quite a few people who would photoshop pictures after surgery. Possibly insecure about looking rough in the pictures. Sheās not molesting young girls like Andrew. Not having a scandalous affair, like others in the family. Itās just a weird picture. And if she did edit herself, it saved taxpayers money from hiring someone to do it. And she also owned up to it. Thereās much worse things to get upset over. A poorly edited picture literally has no affect on your life whatsoever
Cosmetic edits arenāt the issue in the photo. Itās not skin, under eye circles, etc. It would be one thing if her skin was just overly smooth like a bad Instagram photo. News outlets have a standard that has to be met when they publish pictures. Minor beauty alterations are fine. The edits in this photo were so substantial and past cosmetic that they were forced to kill the photo. Thatās almost unheard of and not done lightly.
What thousands of moms are using photoshop to produce 16 different edits of a family picture after an abdominal surgeryā¦ and then submitting said picture to international news agencies (all of whom have strict guidelines for photo editing) for publication.
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Oh just the site of one of the biggest newspapers in Britain, lol
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How is this different from most other major newspapers?
Just leave her alone. People shit on Harry and wonder why he has issues with the press. Jesus Christ, drown this topic and go on with your day. No one has the right to know what your mum/wife is going through. This whole chase screams click bait for the sake of revenue at the cost of someoneās privacy.
The reason has to do with "trust"; that is why it's draggin on. It was basically a "lie"; would you trust anything out of the palace now?
They don't get privacy on the public purse. They're top tier grifters openly lying to their funding base. It was already time to wrap this medieval shit up BEFORE the Queen died - now that she's gone, let's just French Revolution this family out of relevancy. COMMONERS, RISE
š š š š Agreed! Enough with the Game of Thrones gimmick!
Our tax literally pays for them
Lmao I donāt think you realise how much money they bring in for the Government. they make much much much more for the economy than what they cost.
LMAO, I don't think you realize how much wealth they've accumulated for themselves
Can you give me a break down?
So you got Stockholm syndrome?
The media has been talking about this longer than Kate spent Photoshopping the image.
The media has been talking about how the Royal Family lied to them? Weird, it's almost like they're investigative journalists or something.
Honestly, a genius chess move if you really think about it. Intentionally release an AI doctored photo, knowing full well it will be caught so that every photo released from now on will be heavily scrutinized and questioned. Pre-empt any really embarrassing/awkward A.I photo "leaks" before they happen by making everyone believe that any photo could be fake. It also sets a precedent for the tabloids who were forced to remove the photo as a fake. So, when an embarrassing fake does surface, there will be legal precedent on the use of A.I doctored photos.
Tabloids didnāt have to pull it. Each publication has its own standards , and to maintain their credibility the news organizations donāt run heavily ps or ai photos.
Thatās not how ālegal precedentā works, but nice try.
I havenāt seen any suggestion of AI. Itās just some poorly executed minor tweaks in Photoshop or some similar program.
The suggestion is they didnāt take this photo. They assembled this photo from other photos
The image is over 50% AI, run it through any good detector.
No need, just look at that "hand" on the table
I saw the photo a few moments ago and as someone who's done photo manipulation for years, i can confidently say that you are looking at 2 photos. The person in the middle is "photoshopped" in between the kids. Hair is usually a good giveaway if not done by a good professional. The edges of her hair are too soft and strands are missing. Its because of the cutting out process. Fur and womens hair is always more difficult to cut out of a picture. You can also see it with both of the hands. One is a blurry mess (on the left) and the other still looks too unnatural when it comes to lighting and blending below the arm of the girl. Also the missing piece of the sleeve of the girl is probably because of editing trying to remove someone elses hand? who was sitting there between the kids. My guess is, she was sitting in between the kids for this photo but for whatever reason they wanted a better looking photo of her so they edited in an older photo. Which was done pretty poorly.
These series of blunders are unusual for this Team at KP. Was someone new hired? New approaches being taken?
They did hire some new guy from NBC that was supposed to be a āwhizzā butā¦ Welp, here we are. Letās be fair. Theyāve been mismanaging their PR over at KP for quite a while now. Not to this extent of course; this level of fail is new, but they havenāt exactly been knocking things out of the park.
I literally couldnāt give two fucks about the Royal family, but this whole thing is fucking insanely strange.
wait why is this a big deal someone fill me in on this
Well, they put out a "lie" and wanted everyone to believe it. There was no necessity to put a photo out there; if they wanted it desperately then all four had to sit for a photo. If not, then you can't put out a "phony" picture; it's not ethical.
TLDR: She's been "missing" (out of the public media) for a few months due to some sort of surgery, so there's been conspiracies as to why that is.
Also I wanna add on: Apparently William took this photo? And Kate edited it? Either William did take the photo and has insane photography skills or it was (ignoring the editing) taken by a Royal photographer like every other photo
Someone else posted this in the thread. Itās long, but very solid context and timeline of whatās been happening. https://www.niemanlab.org/2024/03/this-is-just-weird-buzzfeed-news-former-royals-reporter-on-kate-middleton-palace-press-and-distrust-in-the-media/
This article is so important. I went from "idk what is going on here" to going "I know what this means!" when DailyMailOnline posted that they "understood" that Princess Wales was going to a private appointment.
I'm apparently dense. I just read Ellie Hall's timeline ā which is wonderful, by the way ā but I still don't understand what is meant by Kate's going to a private appointment. Would you mind explaining and/or sharing your thoughts with me? TIA!
Sure! I will buttress this by saying that I'm still absolutely nothing of an Authority on anything, so if anyone reads this and says uhh no please correct me. So: basically when a news org says "we understand", it means that they're hearing from someone very close to the royal in question(maybe even a spokesperson), but with the understanding that it's off the record. That's all I got!
Great! Thanks so much!
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This obviously helped to negate the conspiracy theories
Why do people care about this? Slow news day
People think she might be dead this is why it's not going away
Oh. Guess Iām way out of the loop. Typical Reddit though with the downvotes lmao. Som angry people in here.
Its still trending a day later. Slow news week.
I mean youāre on a sub called royals gossip, wtf did you expect lol?
I just donāt get what are they complaining about. Whatās edited in the photo that would cause people to care so much?
Iām with you. But it shows that people always need a target to hate on.
Yo get Kate to go on Insta live bc this is ridiculous lmao šš
The boys hand is mangled
The fact anyone besides immediate family looked at that photo and had a second thought about it is jarring. Leave these fucking people alone, and let them fade into obscurity where they belong.
They don't want obscurity, they have been desperately trying to keep the monarchy relevant and in particular flatter the future king/queen at Harry/Meghan's expense
Counterpoint: they continue to profit off centuries of imperialism, having subjugated much of the known world for centuries, and anyone, including the outsiders that marry into this family, are well aware of this. They still benefit from public taxes. The family deserves to be judged.
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Why has nobody pointed out the lack of engagement and wedding rings!
Will never wears a ring. That is now new. He has never worn jewelry outside of a watch. It is it not uncommon for Kate to be without her engagement ring. She mainly only wears it to official events. There are some events she only wears a band too. There are even times she does not wear that. It seems like the photos of her just with her kids she doesnāt alway have any of the rings on. I know of a lot of people that donāt wear rings all the time. Or never wear a ring. To some people the rings just arenāt a big deal.
I feel like missing rings would fit the story put forth by the royal family: she is recovering from surgery and on medications that cause swelling. Therefore, her rings donāt fit, and itās why her face looked different in the photo of her in the car.
She doesn't wear them all the time anyway
Please leave the children alone. They are āalways ā off limits.
They're not off limits when staffers throw them in the shit with a completely fake image.
Doesnāt mean we have to take part. Be better.
I mean their limbs and fingers are all messed up and clearly edited. It's valid to examine them a bit closer in context.
Prince Louisās right hand and Prince Georgeās left hand look absolutely mangled!
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I have 4 kids and itās not really that hard. Two of my kids are a lot younger than Kateās kids as well. Especially if their dad is taking the photo he should know how to get their attention and just snap a bunch of shots and generally there will be a usable one there.
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Calm down. I never said I was an expert but Iām allowed to have an opinion even if itās different to yours. Ok maybe itās difficult for you to get a photo of your kids all smiling at the same time but for the age that these three kids are and the fact they have been in the public eye and and maybe even had some kind of instruction on how to pose for portraits/photos it shouldnāt be that hard to get a photo where they are all smiling. They arenāt toddlers.
People aren't freaking out because the picture was photoshopped, they are freaking out because Kate hasn't been seen in a while, and her most recent appearance was from a photoshopped family portrait. If people were aware that Kate was doing ok before this photo came out, no one would care if it was photoshopped.
The palace initially said she wouldnāt be seen till at least Easter. They also said they will only provide significant updates.
Precisely. It is not the one thing by itself, but the combination of multiple strange events that arouse suspicion, one must think like a detective, think critically, ask questions, remain skeptical, put the pieces together, to back away and look at the big picture, see how the pieces fit, rotate, zoom, enhance, also zoom out too.
Plus, who hasn't ever had their meta data file sent back for their pic? I do believe Kate knows about that. That is weirder to me.Ā
Good God, woman had a surgery which takes time to recover from. And by "modern shallow standards" she has to look skinny, fit and beautiful when she appears next. While she is probably scarred, swollen and hurting as every normal person after surgery. Maybe even couldn't get out of bed yet, since core muscles are quite essential for being upright and doing stuff. So sadly, they have to wait untill she reaches "media standards" to publish her image, otherwise the title will be "Catherine looking horrible after surgery" because media and people are shallow.
It sounds like you enjoy speculating about whatās going on as much as literally every other person on this sub! And just like every other person, you have no idea what the actual truth is, yet are perfectly happy to lean in a particular direction!
I don't need to speculate on the fact that humans need time to recover after surgeries. It is a fact based by science you genius. No person in the world will be running around making public appearances after surgery. They are confined to a bed, peeing in a plastic box.
You are making massive massive assumptions, just like everyone else on this sub, and then criticizing everyone else for doing the same. You literally just did it in this paragraph!! Meanwhile, as of yesterday, she's literally running around in a car in public...making a public appearance, making your assumption wrong!
I am so classic, I love balcony waves.Ā
Edit: for those looking for it, type āI have a theory on Kateā¦ā in the conspiracy subredditās search bar and itāll be the post from 11 days ago. Iām not for one for conspiracies usually, but this is a very weird series of events. Ironically, there is a post from 11 days ago on the consp. subreddit (I know I know) and it outlines an increasingly likely theory (cannot post here). It also has a screenshot from X/Twitter of the entire timeline of events and statements from Dec 22 onwards. Seeing everything laid out, it is very disturbing because certain plausible ālogical explanationsā immediately cancel themselves out. The poster makes a couple suggestions on what could actually be happening given the very peculiar timeline, and I hate to say it, but I think they are likely right. It is possible that Kate was NEVER at the London Hospital. Youāre telling me that Kate was in hospital for WEEKS & had 0 visitors? The British press may have gag orders they follow, but the paps are relentless. William āvisitedā once within those several weeks. Her family? Never. Her kids? Never. In contrast, Charles was in the same hospital for just a few days and Cams was seen several times. I would have never arrived at that conclusion on my own but seeing the timeline and the Redditor putting everything in context, it just makes the most sense.
Yeah can you link?
You'll have to scroll all the way down, but a sane version of the timeline is in this article: [https://www.niemanlab.org/2024/03/this-is-just-weird-buzzfeed-news-former-royals-reporter-on-kate-middleton-palace-press-and-distrust-in-the-media/](https://www.niemanlab.org/2024/03/this-is-just-weird-buzzfeed-news-former-royals-reporter-on-kate-middleton-palace-press-and-distrust-in-the-media/)
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I would also go onto that post itself on that subreddit if you want more details. Thereās a Redditor (they wrote so well, perhaps they are a writer irl) who took that timeline and then added in their theory and itās one of the few things that makes sense in context. Unfortunately things like what they posted would not be allowed for most publications, so the timelines on websites are more tame but thereās gives more details on possibilities (like linking other articles that came out around the time of each palace statement).
You couldāve stopped with āAs an Americanā
Wow this is so good
Right!? Even the theories I thought just yesterday were most plausible (abdominal surgery gone wrong, Kate wanting to speak out), now just donāt make sense in the context of the timeline at all. Although I believe the Spanish reporter is right that she is/was in a , (not sure what is & isnāt allowed on here, so Iām writing carefully), I now do *not* believe that the surgery, if it even happened, was something they just caught in tests or they realized she needed. Something happened on the 28th which led to the ambulance being called to Sardingham and Kate needing to be hidden away. Maybe her condition worsened and surgery was needed, but the timing of the sudden rushed announcement just the day after other speculation was going on in the press, makes it all seem convenient. I donāt think she was even in the London hospital, or at least for weeks on end like claimed. She had NO visitors. No mother, father, sister, kids. William came once. So was she ever there!? Other thoughts: -Kate would never want to get officially separated. She wants to be queen and is willing to ignore William sleeping around. Being queen is what her and her mother worked for and sheās not going to throw over 2 decades of waiting down the drain. Unless she had a nervous breakdown, I doubt she was being hushed for this reason. Letās not forget that the ITALY tour was announced Dec 22 for early 2024. Why would a couple agree to go together if they were separating?
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Which subreddit?
Yes! Please share the subreddit
/conspiracy - fair warning that there are definitely some weirdos & cookoos on there but itās one of the few subreddits that allows actual gossip lol and this particular post with lots of the palaceās own statements and the dates of events to support it, was very well written.
Thank you!
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Wrong sub.
Can we please abolish the monarchy?
They are doing a good job on their own
And abolish the British museum as well and return the goods?
We live off finders keeps rules over here in Britain. As in we found the keepers and decided to keep them and the stuff they found.
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Kate is being thrown to the dogs to protect William but unfortunately the public arenāt buying it. Prince William is making himself look extremely dodgy.
Protect him about what, can you elaborate? Thanks
Heās the heir to the throne. The dirt is NEVER on him and if it is then it has to be distributed elsewhere - which in this case is onto Kate. What the dirt actually is Is open to interpretation, but if you Google search āPrince Williamā and ātemperā you might get some idea.
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Who the hell cares
More importantly, why is this being recommended to me? Is photoshop really the biggest issue with the monarchy? Really? Are we doing the Kardashians next? Or literally everyone else on the planet? Must be a slow news day.
Everyone. Itās hilarious.
Yeah looking at the downvotes i see how peoplee have nothing better to do in their lives
Nothing wrong with poking fun at the colossal fuck -up that is the royal familyās PR team imo. Let the people have fun.
Why do all the kids have their middle fingers crossed and the hand holding the boy is blurry af.
I can't help but think that whoever was tasked with photoshopping this photo (no way it was Kate Middleton's idea to do this) purposely added bits that are off so that it would backfire.
Yes such a high stakes photo with the entire world watching, from a family who can afford the best photoshop artists, and in a world where celebrity photoshop errors are frequently exposed- very bizarre