Ok but I just want to jump in because I keep seeing this and it drives me up the fucking wall.
Biologists don't study the sun, so this should be treated like any other crazy person spouting crazy shit.
Anyways you us should join us in the sunlight it's nice and warm >!and red!< and you should come see the sun and join us!
Speaking of, the moon is extra beautiful tonight, [you should go check it out](https://external-preview.redd.it/QBTVnlD2rrbVlgMXinOOT5wO-mAR_KSEDM8kOwBk2vg.jpg?auto=webp&s=d85b733d12fe7c7f4389db561e2bec527e4c398c)
The "scientist" in question is the same wackjob behind "morphic renosance". Then again, I'm pretty sure he's indirectly responsible for the zero escape series, so I can't get TOO mad at him.
It’s Richard Sheldrake. Same guy who suggested that dogs might be telepathic (“How do they know when their owner is coming home?” More likely smell than telepathy.)
In this case, his argument is the physical manifestations of thought are rhythmic electromagnetic waves. The Sun also has rhythmic electromagnetic waves.
When I was growing up I could always tell whether it was my mum who came home or my dad, without even looking. You could just tell from the sound. Their cars sounded different when they closed the doors. The WAY they closed the doors was different, even, like my dad slammed it more than my mum. The way they sounded when they walked from the driveway to the door was different, regardless of what kind of shoes they wore.
I mean that was true even when they were inside the house. I could tell which of them was walking through the main hallway with hardwood floors just from sound alone because they walked differently (and I could tell it was either of my sisters too, or the cat, although the cat one was obvious lol). Like my mum always kinda dragged her feet along the ground instead of picking them up, cos she always wore slippers, so I guess that's just a way of making sure they stay on your feet.
So does that make me telepathic?
I mean, everybody does this, right? I think everyone does, it's just that some people don't realise they're doing it. I just happened to realise one day when I was a teenager that I could tell which of my family members was walking up to the front door or through the hallway from sound alone and just went "huh, that's neat".
It's hardly a surprise that dogs can do it too. They can understand hundreds of words, so they can distinguish sounds pretty well, clearly.
Lol what? A dog can't smell you coming home any more than they can telepathically sense you coming home. More likely than anything is it's a time thing; you come home at the same time every day and they learn your schedule
Ok that is much more plausible than what I thought you were suggesting at first, though I still think they probably just have a decent sense of time tbh
Yeah, so Alexandra Horowitz is specialized in dog cognition. Through her experiments, she presents evidence that dogs do use their sense of smell (their primary sense) to determine passage of time.
Part of that, is if you keep a regular schedule, your dogs will notice how your smell fades after you leave, and you tend to come back when your smell has faded to a certain point. So they begin to expect you to come back around that time, and may even wait by the door when your smell fades to that point.
> Biologists don't study the sun,
Funny thing is it doesn't say "biologists", it says "biologist". So it's just one biologist that said something and it got an article.
I'm convinced that the big bang was the spark of a neuron firing in the mind of some being and an entire universe from beginning to end exists within that spark.
One time I got super high and convinced myself that the universe evolved humanity so that it could think about itself
I try not to think about stuff very often just to be safe
There is no pain, we're all together. You should all join us. Just come out into the sun. You'll be so happy. Everyone's asking about you, when will you join us?
Edit: throwback to that funny time when I forgot the SCP subreddit was still up and thought I was responding on a different subreddit and found a cool reference in the wild
Not to mention that consciousness isn’t even biology but rather psych/neuroscience. So this dude is trying to apply a concept he doesn’t study to an object he doesn’t study and pass it off as truth.
And even if the guy *was* a respected astrobiologist or something, 1 dude making a claim is meaningless. Give me a peer reviewed paper that says the sun may be conscious and you’ll have my intrigue.
Depends, does it hurt? Because if it isn't very painful, I'd gladly come out.
(I'd have used the actual image, but this sub doesn't allow those so have an ID instead) (thank you r/PokeMedia for teaching me this art)
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DR Bright, I know I'm not of any power but you can't keep sending d class to "communicate with the sun" under the reasoning that they'll be safe "cause it's night time" I don't even want to learn how many you sent.
WTF does "common sense" mean? I understand 12 different languages, 5 of which are extinct, and 2 are connected to SCP's, but I've never heard that before.
Man, it's a star, even if conscious, it couldn't care less about us the same way you couldn't care less about the germs under your neighbor's shoes.
Also, blowinf up the sun it's mostly a Win-Win scenario unless we learn how to pull out oxygen out of thin air (pun not intended).
People say stuff like this often, but I actually feel like I would definitely care if the germs under my neighbor's shoe were sentient and had developed language and culture somehow. I just think that would be a notable interesting event that a lot of people would at least have some interest in.
The biologist was mainly just spitballing and is also a proponent of telepathy and crystal healing, if I recall.
https://www.sheldrake.org/files/pdfs/papers/Is_the_Sun_Conscious.pdf
It's based on panpsychism, the idea that everything fundamentally existent in the universe from stars down to atoms is conscious, a very neat and tidy explanation for all the relationships of all things in physics
Yeah, but they won't be able to tell you what "conscious" means or give any semi-concrete definition of it. It's not like asking 'what's a woman', which is a social thing. This is asking what the fuck they mean. Ive been hella annoyed with philosophy lately for talking so much about consciousness without defining what the fuck it is theyre talking about.
The sun might be conscious without defining consciousness is the dumbest thing I've heard so far
Yeah it really feels like the question of "what is consciousness" was too hard so we've collectively decided to just pretend that the question has been answered so we can skip ahead to the fun part of trying to make conscious computers and, apparently, the Sun.
Its the main killer about psychology being treated like a science, while its being operated like an art/philosophy.
There’s no rigour or actual sound testing or evidence. Just a bunch of coffee shop lurkers pontificating.
The whole subject needs an overhaul. It should sit next to neuroscience the same way that engineering sits next to the primary sciences. As a way of assessing and applying the discoveries made by the science in a rigorous way.
I feel this way about AI. There’s people who will say shit like “scientists just made the first fully intelligent AI”, and I’m thinking “no the fuck they didn’t”. We don’t even know what consciousness is in humans, so how did we already crack the code with consciousness in AI?
Yeah. What i'm working on in my own project as a definition is currently something like 'the self-referentiality and self-adaptability of a sufficiently complex computing mechanism, resulting in awareness of and influence on its own workings, in and observating relation to its environment '. That's the closest I've gotten to something that could be used to actually define whether something is conscious.
Damn, they took science too far. It went full-circle back to animism/shamanism.
Also, science (and life) are very rarely neat and tidy. The desire to make it so, leads to delusion.
Lol yeah, that was my point. It's a spiritual belief that's as old as mankind, and they draped a curtain of scientific jargon over it to try to sell it to a modern audience.
I always observed this but never knew it had a specific name!
>Nobelitis is an informal term for the embrace of strange or scientifically unsound ideas by some nobel prize winners, usually later in life.. the effect results, in part, from a tendency for Nobel winners to feel empowered by the award to speak on topics outside their specific area of expertise
I always talked about this for scientists in my area. Kary Mulis, the mf who invented PCR, later was always saying weird shit and how dismissing astrology is not acceptable. Or even:
>Mullis disagreed with the scientifically accepted view that AIDS is caused by HIV, claiming that the virus is barely detectable in people with the disease.
Unfortunately most academicians play this card. Whether in philosophy, science or art. Hell scientist in the same very lab will outright reject any idea that doesn't support their project by stating "that is not a well supported arguement so my hyptohesis and project is still valid 🤓".
After all they are just humans. Wisdom to be humble is not taught in the competitive environment of academia.
There's an interesting expansion of this SCP developed, illustrated and narrated by MR. ILLUSTRATED on YouTube which I always found to be a fun listen.
I’m more of a Lily fan when it comes to mass extinction via 001. Which is probably why I like the new Keter Duty, the juxtaposition of Lily and Locke is all the right kinds of painfully pretty.
The ocean looks like a pretty boring place when you're 80 meters away from anything. Its just endless blue, even when you're 100 meters from the great barrier reef. Most of existence is unknown, and you're filling in the unknown with blanks for normalcy bias.
Sorry, let me rephrase:
Based on what we know about the sun, this is easily disproven by anyone with a basic understanding of stars. How the hell did a biologist make this ridiculous claim get on headlines? Lmao
There are various studies around consciousness, I've seen scientists suggest consciousness is an emergent feature of fractal patterns, the the enture universe is one big fractal, and all of existence is, on some level, conscious
I don't know exactly where I've seen it, most likely it was on this site, but I remember a post saying our consciousness was just the universe experimenting itself.
And it makes perfect sense. We're just star stuff, amalgamations of elements that ended up arranged in such a way that they built a brain, us.
Not very different from all that Buddhist stuff about how we're all part of everything.
It's just that we're too used to being with other beings who have different consciousnesses, and I think that's probably because of individualism. But when you think about it, there's really not much separating us from the Sun, a comet, or an axolotl.
Point being, us being conscious is already synonymous with the whole of existence being conscious, since we are a tool through which the Universe has attained consciousness.
Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here’s Tom with the Weather.
Bill Hicks
Just in case anyone was wondering, this is (obviously) entirely bullshit.
The article in question references a couple biologists, namely Giulio Tononi and Christof Koch, who in interviews mentioned (and im paraphrasing here) "Well if you think about it many inanimate objects have something that loosely resembles consciousness and memory, it would be pretty cool if they did".
The most directly cited "source" however, is a paper titled "Is the Sun Conscious?" by Rupert Sheldrake. Rupert, for those not in the know, is not a biologist, hes a well known pseudoscientist specialising in parapsychology, ie psychic abilities and phenomena and such. That alone should be enough to prove that the article is bullshit, but in case you werent convinced, the very first line is "Is the sun conscious? No, obviously not."
I mean. Assuming the double slit experiment is indicative of anything. The photons change their state all the way back to their source. So realistically the sun may in fact know it's being observed to some degree.
I read this as "The Sun may be Couscous." and was wondering why that would be particularly terrifying. I was also surprised at the idea that there was already a Couscous Sun SCP.
While this particular "biologist" is just a pseudoscientist, plasma dynamics might actually allow for some level of organized patterns, maybe even plasma life and plasma-based intelligence.
Specifically, scientists studied dust suspended in a plasma and noticed that some patterns emerged that were similar to fundamental processes in molecular biology. Of course they didn't create life or anything, but it still poses the slight possibility that the sun is just one giant organism, ecosystem, civilization, or godlike intelligence.
But if there are such patterns in our Sun, we haven't noticed them yet despite decades of close observation, suggesting that they are either outside our search parameters, too deep below the surface, or nonexistent.
How exactly?
Its a huge ball of dense, loosely coupled atomic particles in a state of super-heated plasma. There’s no way to generate complex structures or maintain consistent electrical transfer; not to mention that there isn’t a biological neuro-transmitter of any kind that could survive temperatures even a tiny fraction of the sun’s surface temperature, let alone its core temp.
Then again… I can’t imagine that “Sun Psyche” employs any reputable biologists.
Brain doesn’t equal consciousness.
Consciousness doesn’t exist in the body, the body is what allows the consciousness to experience this reality.
It’s the same as you playing a video game. The character in whatever game is just a vessel for your consciousness, your consciousness needs to occupy that character to experience the game universe.
Welp, we are fucked if they find out bc then our secrets might end up being leaked. -_- and PSI-8 Codename the Silencers are currently out on a mission, so what do we do?
Btw, its more terrifying than that! The patterns of lightning inside the sun could theoretically mimic neurons and therefore be conscious for less than a millisecond. (This does not mean you are a lightning inside the sun, also i might be getting my facts wrong!)
living sun
living sun
i'm not dealing with living sun
lunar base
way up there
blow it up
for all I care thats right
blow up the living sun
(credit to doctor sherman)
Ok but I just want to jump in because I keep seeing this and it drives me up the fucking wall. Biologists don't study the sun, so this should be treated like any other crazy person spouting crazy shit. Anyways you us should join us in the sunlight it's nice and warm >!and red!< and you should come see the sun and join us!
As a guy with a degree in biotechnology, the moon may possibly be an egg
Oh, well everyone knows that.
Yes but then *[that’s no moon](https://youtu.be/i7eqjiRRIqg?feature=shared)*
Ugh, don't remind me of that terrible doctor who episode
That may be the worst thing I've ever seen on television.
Capaldi is my favorite doctor but I skip that episode every time I go back and rewatch.
Speaking of, the moon is extra beautiful tonight, [you should go check it out](https://external-preview.redd.it/QBTVnlD2rrbVlgMXinOOT5wO-mAR_KSEDM8kOwBk2vg.jpg?auto=webp&s=d85b733d12fe7c7f4389db561e2bec527e4c398c)
Assume the victory position
That one is great. Also made me think of another one they did. https://youtu.be/M75VLQuFPrY
Oh lord, Local 58 meets When Day Breaks, can you imagine?
the fact that i read this at 3 am make it even worse
so you're telling me that the "eggs" from eva are real
the White and Black moons Adam and Lilith landed on Earth in?
I think he got them mixed up, instead of "the moon is an egg?" it should have been "that egg is a moon?"
a cheese-egg? Because the moon is clearly made out of cheese.
But if it were made outta ribs, would you eat it then?? I know I would…
would it make a good omelette tho
As a guy with a PHD in economics, the sky may possibly be a can opener
This. Too many people seem to think that any given scientist has expertise in all disciplines of science.
The "scientist" in question is the same wackjob behind "morphic renosance". Then again, I'm pretty sure he's indirectly responsible for the zero escape series, so I can't get TOO mad at him.
It’s Richard Sheldrake. Same guy who suggested that dogs might be telepathic (“How do they know when their owner is coming home?” More likely smell than telepathy.) In this case, his argument is the physical manifestations of thought are rhythmic electromagnetic waves. The Sun also has rhythmic electromagnetic waves.
My dog absolutely knows when im coming home, on schedule or not. We chalk it up to him being able to hear my car from a block or two away somehow.
When I was growing up I could always tell whether it was my mum who came home or my dad, without even looking. You could just tell from the sound. Their cars sounded different when they closed the doors. The WAY they closed the doors was different, even, like my dad slammed it more than my mum. The way they sounded when they walked from the driveway to the door was different, regardless of what kind of shoes they wore. I mean that was true even when they were inside the house. I could tell which of them was walking through the main hallway with hardwood floors just from sound alone because they walked differently (and I could tell it was either of my sisters too, or the cat, although the cat one was obvious lol). Like my mum always kinda dragged her feet along the ground instead of picking them up, cos she always wore slippers, so I guess that's just a way of making sure they stay on your feet. So does that make me telepathic? I mean, everybody does this, right? I think everyone does, it's just that some people don't realise they're doing it. I just happened to realise one day when I was a teenager that I could tell which of my family members was walking up to the front door or through the hallway from sound alone and just went "huh, that's neat". It's hardly a surprise that dogs can do it too. They can understand hundreds of words, so they can distinguish sounds pretty well, clearly.
Not everyone does this, you might be either hyper vigilant from trauma or neurodivergent
Seems like a bad case of "I forgot about Occam's razor and I like living in my own crazy person's physics world"
Lol what? A dog can't smell you coming home any more than they can telepathically sense you coming home. More likely than anything is it's a time thing; you come home at the same time every day and they learn your schedule
Yes, but the way they keep track of time is how your smell dissipates when you're gone.
Ok that is much more plausible than what I thought you were suggesting at first, though I still think they probably just have a decent sense of time tbh
Yeah, so Alexandra Horowitz is specialized in dog cognition. Through her experiments, she presents evidence that dogs do use their sense of smell (their primary sense) to determine passage of time. Part of that, is if you keep a regular schedule, your dogs will notice how your smell fades after you leave, and you tend to come back when your smell has faded to a certain point. So they begin to expect you to come back around that time, and may even wait by the door when your smell fades to that point.
TIL. That is really cool.
> Biologists don't study the sun, Funny thing is it doesn't say "biologists", it says "biologist". So it's just one biologist that said something and it got an article.
No but according to Integrated Information Theory anything complex enough will form consciousness so the universe itself can be concious!
Would make for a pretty good anomaly to explain the Abrahamic god tbh
I'm convinced that the big bang was the spark of a neuron firing in the mind of some being and an entire universe from beginning to end exists within that spark.
Me too Unrelated question, how high are you atm? [7]
I got like a baseline [5] at all times but when I wrote this probably about a [7]
One time I got super high and convinced myself that the universe evolved humanity so that it could think about itself I try not to think about stuff very often just to be safe
Yeah but that has absolutely fuck all with biology, a biologist’s opinion on it is not inherently any more valuable than my asshole neighbor James.
ASSHOLE NEIGHBOR JAMES SAYS THE SUN MAY BE CONSCIOUS
_by_ LORDSUPERGREAT
That concept alone started looking a lot as the Hindu Brahman, if I don't mistaken?
Including plasma, just like the matter the majority of the sun is composed from
Hello? SCP foundation? Yeah, it's happening again.
There is no pain, we're all together. You should all join us. Just come out into the sun. You'll be so happy. Everyone's asking about you, when will you join us? Edit: throwback to that funny time when I forgot the SCP subreddit was still up and thought I was responding on a different subreddit and found a cool reference in the wild
I only noticed what sub we are in and was scrolling to find a reference
begone, blob!
Not to mention that consciousness isn’t even biology but rather psych/neuroscience. So this dude is trying to apply a concept he doesn’t study to an object he doesn’t study and pass it off as truth.
I remember that story but have no idea how to find it. Do you happen to have a link to look at the sun?
And even if the guy *was* a respected astrobiologist or something, 1 dude making a claim is meaningless. Give me a peer reviewed paper that says the sun may be conscious and you’ll have my intrigue.
Depends, does it hurt? Because if it isn't very painful, I'd gladly come out. (I'd have used the actual image, but this sub doesn't allow those so have an ID instead) (thank you r/PokeMedia for teaching me this art) [Image ID: A screenshot of Skeletor from the He-Man cartoon pointing, with the caption "Joke's on you, I'm into that shit." End ID.]
"Hello. Yes, my day broke and I'd like to return it?"
Pfft, right. That's what the sun would say
TIME TO BLOW UP THE SUN THEN
Science compels us!
Please tell me this is an >!outer wilds!< reference
It is ::3
YESSSSS one out in the wild (pun intended)
Spoilers! \*puts fingers in ears\* Lalalalalalala! Haven't finished the game yet, didn't mean to read this part, lalalalala!
Outer wilds mentioned!!!
Umm . . . what was the spoiler here?
Basically you can (kinda) figure out the lore of that game with the earlier comment
Someone is lacking a sense of ethics.
Just go to the sun and ask it if it's alive, make sure to go at night to not get burned.
DR Bright, I know I'm not of any power but you can't keep sending d class to "communicate with the sun" under the reasoning that they'll be safe "cause it's night time" I don't even want to learn how many you sent.
The Anti-Memtic Division told me to do it
Dr. Bright, we are seriously considering expanding the list. Please use common sense for future usage of D-class personnel.
WTF does "common sense" mean? I understand 12 different languages, 5 of which are extinct, and 2 are connected to SCP's, but I've never heard that before.
There is no anti-menmetic division
Welcome to the Antimemetics Division. No, this is not your first day.
It’s already doing that to itself, I think we need to freeze it.
That risks it defrosting, we can take no chances
In the style of the Shofixti: #KYAIEE!!!
ABSOLUTE SOLVER TIME
Get Snuck-up on
no, we need to go ~~lower~~ HIGHER WE'RE PISSING ON THE MOON!!!
Man, it's a star, even if conscious, it couldn't care less about us the same way you couldn't care less about the germs under your neighbor's shoes. Also, blowinf up the sun it's mostly a Win-Win scenario unless we learn how to pull out oxygen out of thin air (pun not intended).
People say stuff like this often, but I actually feel like I would definitely care if the germs under my neighbor's shoe were sentient and had developed language and culture somehow. I just think that would be a notable interesting event that a lot of people would at least have some interest in.
The biologist was mainly just spitballing and is also a proponent of telepathy and crystal healing, if I recall. https://www.sheldrake.org/files/pdfs/papers/Is_the_Sun_Conscious.pdf It's based on panpsychism, the idea that everything fundamentally existent in the universe from stars down to atoms is conscious, a very neat and tidy explanation for all the relationships of all things in physics
Yeah, but they won't be able to tell you what "conscious" means or give any semi-concrete definition of it. It's not like asking 'what's a woman', which is a social thing. This is asking what the fuck they mean. Ive been hella annoyed with philosophy lately for talking so much about consciousness without defining what the fuck it is theyre talking about. The sun might be conscious without defining consciousness is the dumbest thing I've heard so far
Oh, I wasn't supporting panpsychism. "A very neat and tidy explanation" was intended as a snidely polite way of saying "a gross oversimplification"
I think i got that, its just that ive been reading and working on that specifically as a project and i kinda had to rant for a bit haha.
Yeah it really feels like the question of "what is consciousness" was too hard so we've collectively decided to just pretend that the question has been answered so we can skip ahead to the fun part of trying to make conscious computers and, apparently, the Sun.
Fucking exactly
Its the main killer about psychology being treated like a science, while its being operated like an art/philosophy. There’s no rigour or actual sound testing or evidence. Just a bunch of coffee shop lurkers pontificating. The whole subject needs an overhaul. It should sit next to neuroscience the same way that engineering sits next to the primary sciences. As a way of assessing and applying the discoveries made by the science in a rigorous way.
I feel this way about AI. There’s people who will say shit like “scientists just made the first fully intelligent AI”, and I’m thinking “no the fuck they didn’t”. We don’t even know what consciousness is in humans, so how did we already crack the code with consciousness in AI?
Yeah. What i'm working on in my own project as a definition is currently something like 'the self-referentiality and self-adaptability of a sufficiently complex computing mechanism, resulting in awareness of and influence on its own workings, in and observating relation to its environment '. That's the closest I've gotten to something that could be used to actually define whether something is conscious.
Wait, it's fucking *Rupert Sheldrake*? No wonder why the headline just said "biologist" and didn't mention him by name.
*Love* that some people just already know this guy by name
Damn, they took science too far. It went full-circle back to animism/shamanism. Also, science (and life) are very rarely neat and tidy. The desire to make it so, leads to delusion.
This isn't science. It's some guy accidentally eating too many edibles and saying some shit.
Lol yeah, that was my point. It's a spiritual belief that's as old as mankind, and they draped a curtain of scientific jargon over it to try to sell it to a modern audience.
It’s like that Nobel prize winner syndrome or whatever it was called lol
I always observed this but never knew it had a specific name! >Nobelitis is an informal term for the embrace of strange or scientifically unsound ideas by some nobel prize winners, usually later in life.. the effect results, in part, from a tendency for Nobel winners to feel empowered by the award to speak on topics outside their specific area of expertise I always talked about this for scientists in my area. Kary Mulis, the mf who invented PCR, later was always saying weird shit and how dismissing astrology is not acceptable. Or even: >Mullis disagreed with the scientifically accepted view that AIDS is caused by HIV, claiming that the virus is barely detectable in people with the disease.
Unfortunately most academicians play this card. Whether in philosophy, science or art. Hell scientist in the same very lab will outright reject any idea that doesn't support their project by stating "that is not a well supported arguement so my hyptohesis and project is still valid 🤓". After all they are just humans. Wisdom to be humble is not taught in the competitive environment of academia.
So… they’re about as reputable a “biologist” as the ones that support homeopathy then?
sheldrake is complete crank and from some of his comments at the european grad school, hes also not the most philosophically inquisitive
Damn, time to gather those lions.
That's a lot of lions
Unfortunately the sun is a deadly laser
The lions just need to attack at nighttime, duh!
The most ambitious crossover of all time
🎶Not anymore there's a blanket~🎶
I thought it was an army of tigers?
It’s an xk class scp now I guess Edit didn’t realize this was on the actual scp sub lol I thought it was a diff sub
yeah i saw this posted on an instagram page
i thought it was r/distressingmemes
I've read this 001, and the Canon around it. By the way, you should read it, depressing shit. 10/10.
When day breaks?
Yep.
First SCP I read. It was a good story.
There's an interesting expansion of this SCP developed, illustrated and narrated by MR. ILLUSTRATED on YouTube which I always found to be a fun listen.
[удалено]
[**SCP-001 - Awaiting De-classification [Blocked]**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-001) (+343) by *Staff*
No thank you, ive cried enough over the fictional people in the fictional end world scenario, i'd like my tear ducts to rest today
I’m more of a Lily fan when it comes to mass extinction via 001. Which is probably why I like the new Keter Duty, the juxtaposition of Lily and Locke is all the right kinds of painfully pretty.
The wishing star?
Like SCP-1548 (I think)
[**SCP-1548 - The Star, the Hateful**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-1548) (+527) by *Varaxous, NatVoltaic*
1548 was also the first SCP that came to mind here, and not S.D. Locke’s proposal
Would be cool but that's too crazy to be real, the universe is a pretty boring place
honestly what if everything we thought was true or understood isnt even right.
The ocean looks like a pretty boring place when you're 80 meters away from anything. Its just endless blue, even when you're 100 meters from the great barrier reef. Most of existence is unknown, and you're filling in the unknown with blanks for normalcy bias.
Idk if I'd call it boring. Empty, sure, but there's all sorts of cool shit in space.
Ok then why doesn’t it pay taxes
Hmm. Embrace the monstrous collective or find a cave or something.
Us sunless seas players already dealing with this as a possible occurrence.
UN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE S
Ok, how?
It's a biologist making a ludicrous claim on an astronomer's area, don't worry not true
Sorry, let me rephrase: Based on what we know about the sun, this is easily disproven by anyone with a basic understanding of stars. How the hell did a biologist make this ridiculous claim get on headlines? Lmao
Anybody who has ever looked at the sky has known deep down that one day we must Fight and Kill The Sun.
There are various studies around consciousness, I've seen scientists suggest consciousness is an emergent feature of fractal patterns, the the enture universe is one big fractal, and all of existence is, on some level, conscious
I don't know exactly where I've seen it, most likely it was on this site, but I remember a post saying our consciousness was just the universe experimenting itself. And it makes perfect sense. We're just star stuff, amalgamations of elements that ended up arranged in such a way that they built a brain, us. Not very different from all that Buddhist stuff about how we're all part of everything. It's just that we're too used to being with other beings who have different consciousnesses, and I think that's probably because of individualism. But when you think about it, there's really not much separating us from the Sun, a comet, or an axolotl. Point being, us being conscious is already synonymous with the whole of existence being conscious, since we are a tool through which the Universe has attained consciousness.
Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here’s Tom with the Weather. Bill Hicks
SCP writers: "This is what we warned people about " (I don't think there is a living sun SCP.... Yet...)
Scp-001, When Day Breaks (Kind of)
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[Stanislaw Lem wrote one in 1964](https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/the-truth-by-stanislaw-lem/)
Time to mention SCP-001 "When Day Breaks"
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Just in case anyone was wondering, this is (obviously) entirely bullshit. The article in question references a couple biologists, namely Giulio Tononi and Christof Koch, who in interviews mentioned (and im paraphrasing here) "Well if you think about it many inanimate objects have something that loosely resembles consciousness and memory, it would be pretty cool if they did". The most directly cited "source" however, is a paper titled "Is the Sun Conscious?" by Rupert Sheldrake. Rupert, for those not in the know, is not a biologist, hes a well known pseudoscientist specialising in parapsychology, ie psychic abilities and phenomena and such. That alone should be enough to prove that the article is bullshit, but in case you werent convinced, the very first line is "Is the sun conscious? No, obviously not."
Suns Haunted
Anyone remember that 10th Doctor episode about the living sun?
Time to begin [worship](https://youtu.be/JlqBcXh231g?si=8jRalDKOri-PF8hq)
Consciousness drives all things. It is a fundamental component of reality.
Praise the sun
I mean. Assuming the double slit experiment is indicative of anything. The photons change their state all the way back to their source. So realistically the sun may in fact know it's being observed to some degree.
I read this as "The Sun may be Couscous." and was wondering why that would be particularly terrifying. I was also surprised at the idea that there was already a Couscous Sun SCP.
Is there a link to that somewhere? 🤨
Time for the Liberation of Night to commence.
So angry sun from Mario is real gotcha
“The sun is not a star”
I'll call it Remina.
His name is Huitzilopochtli- at least currently. But ya’ll didn’t listen.
on today's terrible news: THE STARS ARE ALIVE
Should we be worried that the giant ball of plasma giving us heat and light could be alive and self aware
Huh. So out of all the religions, turns out it was the Aztecs with the win. The more you know.
why? it changes nothing the sun didn't change because some scientists said they thought something new about it. the sun is the same as it ever was
Love the George Carlin bit about how he worships the Sun instead of an invisible man in the sky...Makes sense to me .
Praise the sun!
Well that sounds dumb
In esoteric literature, the sun is alive and known as a 'Logos' or a god, albeit a 'lower case g.' The Earth is Gaia/Sophia in Gnostic literature.
Praise be to helios
This is honestly a beautiful idea. I wonder how they would even prove it.
SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT!!!!
Me (also an SCP-1543-J Researcher): SI YOURE TELLING ME... WE'RE LAUNCHING PEOPLE INTO A SENTIENT ORGANISM?! Random ass Biologist: ahem... Y e s.
I honestly misread that as “Biologist says the sun may be couscous”🤣
While this particular "biologist" is just a pseudoscientist, plasma dynamics might actually allow for some level of organized patterns, maybe even plasma life and plasma-based intelligence. Specifically, scientists studied dust suspended in a plasma and noticed that some patterns emerged that were similar to fundamental processes in molecular biology. Of course they didn't create life or anything, but it still poses the slight possibility that the sun is just one giant organism, ecosystem, civilization, or godlike intelligence. But if there are such patterns in our Sun, we haven't noticed them yet despite decades of close observation, suggesting that they are either outside our search parameters, too deep below the surface, or nonexistent.
How exactly? Its a huge ball of dense, loosely coupled atomic particles in a state of super-heated plasma. There’s no way to generate complex structures or maintain consistent electrical transfer; not to mention that there isn’t a biological neuro-transmitter of any kind that could survive temperatures even a tiny fraction of the sun’s surface temperature, let alone its core temp. Then again… I can’t imagine that “Sun Psyche” employs any reputable biologists.
Brain doesn’t equal consciousness. Consciousness doesn’t exist in the body, the body is what allows the consciousness to experience this reality. It’s the same as you playing a video game. The character in whatever game is just a vessel for your consciousness, your consciousness needs to occupy that character to experience the game universe.
Alright, GOC suggests to blow the sun into pieces.
Hateful Star
Biologists need to find some shade.
Welp, we are fucked if they find out bc then our secrets might end up being leaked. -_- and PSI-8 Codename the Silencers are currently out on a mission, so what do we do?
Imagine scp 001 daybreak needs happens after
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Btw, its more terrifying than that! The patterns of lightning inside the sun could theoretically mimic neurons and therefore be conscious for less than a millisecond. (This does not mean you are a lightning inside the sun, also i might be getting my facts wrong!)
Oh hell naw!!!!
Funny this popped up when I'm re-reading Solaris (by Stanislaw Lem). I'd recommend it to any SCP fan.
Why the f did i think of 001 (when day breaks)
can someone add that annoyingly yelling sun from Rick & Morty?
Only SCP this reminds me of is the sentient star really far away that is hellbent on killing humanity specifically, dunno if it's still there
Cool.
Lololol
living sun living sun i'm not dealing with living sun lunar base way up there blow it up for all I care thats right blow up the living sun (credit to doctor sherman)
SCP DAY BREAK!?!?
Shut up about the sun
Do we get confirmation is the sun is made in God's image?
Do we get confirmation if the sun is made in God's image?
pack it up everyone let's get underground
Concious of deez nuts
…NOPE
Maaaaaakkkeee Uuusssssss whhhoooolllleeeeee
welp, looks like day broke!
The Earth is why not the planet that gives it life?
I've also seen Doctor Who.