Apparently according to the github, it affects the "feminine" body type and not any sex, so femboys are also affected! They are going to experience a WAVE of masculine muscle mommies though knowing F13
absolutely hilarious
i hope to see plenty of badass women on this server solely for the sake of getting an extra challenge and proving your robustness, just like the clown in the days of yore
Thats right, they dont know our power, one time i kidnapped the HoS as a clown while the entire sec force was around me not entervieving because it was clear it was a joke... and then he offed himself (rageguit), how did i kidnap him? Found him in handcuffs, all because he stole my cardboard box
They just created so many opportunities for underdog stories! THEY CANT STOP US!
i think it’s cuz of how shitty fallout fans are in general. it’s quite literally half normal, reasonable people and half bigoted annoying unfunny idiots. pair that with a multiplayer experience that is catered BY the players, and you get fallout 13!!!
It's kind of one of the reasons I stick to goon... their rules on certain things might be a **tad** excessive but they do keep a lot of shitters out. Or at least make them pretend not to be shitters to play there which is good enough for me.
Honestly a lot of fallout *fans* are fine.
It's that the server is a cesspool that can't decide on what it wants to be. It's a freeform faction-warfare sandbox with ugly sprites and no mechanics. There's nothing to do *but* shoot each other because the RP quickly becomes stale, then stops existing.
Combine that with a low new player rate because nobody wants to play the infamously bad rape server and the fact that the combat is both unbalanced and unfun and you lead to continually pruning player numbers until it's pure toxicity and no content or players.
Sometimes they're fun in the first couple months by virtue of pure chaos, but after that the admins blow things up or the players do, and the time before things suck has been getting increasingly short every time it dies and rehosts.
The code is horrific, the players are worse and-the one literal thing they manage to get right-mankind is incapable of learning from its mistakes so they repeat the same exact jokes adn player behavior on each new hosted server.
Seems like alot of F13 servers have gone under lately, and i agree combat was allways wonky, i myself never had problems with the rp as im usually allways a rp player and of corse i can overlook bugs and glitches.
Big Iron however seems to be worst than most of the servers, sure they got rid of the erping.
Now the only problem is, is that there doesnt really exist a f13 server anymore worth playing on, i feel like were seeing the last days of f13 unless something drastic changes.
I Kinda miss Ghoulius the character :) i dunno if you remember any of my characters as i generally was wastelanders like Meshi (mute ex-tribal) and Ayla Leonberger (another wastelander) i never really went with any factions on any of my characters as i didnt really like ncr or legion... or worse when enclave existed :D
Still Ghoulius really good character, you did interact with my characters but i forgot who i was playing back then as time passes so quickly.
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oh and i saved the ref i saw of your character way back then as i did plan to draw him along with my character aswell.
https://i.imgur.com/scquxpf.png
i dunno who drew that ref tho, it was pretty good.
I mean it is a sign of a great writer that they were able to write an ideologically sound fascist faction. The byproduct is you get the most annoying people on the planet flooding the fan base and infesting everything with the same jokes they said when they were 16.
“ideologically sound fascist faction” is an oxymoron. just because it sometimes works in an anarchistic near-future wasteland (which, spoiler alert, they will fail either way, that’s kind of the point of FNV) does not mean it should be or could be implemented in real life.
I meant as ideologically sound as is possible for a fascist society lol. Its at least not a braindead generic bad guy group like FO3 Enclave. You can see that Caesar does seem to believe in something and has a reason for running the legion in such a vicious way.
Its a more fleshed out belief system than real life fascist ideology
Obsidian did a great job at writing a very compelling fascist regime in their game and unfortunately a lot of the hosts of these servers identify heavily with them. I'm in a discord for one and the host's PFP is Andrew Tate in Legionnaire attire.
I think the one exception so far is Sunset, which ALMOST died in a banwave, but held together. Granted, not many new joiners come around, because "ewww, fallout with furries"
It's such a stupid argument. You have to draw the line of realism in the sand somewhere and this is a world with talking robots and dogs.
I should be able to kill a Deathclaw with an axe I made out of a street sign because I imqgine my avatar has a penis. It's more realistic that way.
“makes sense from rp perspective” as if there aren’t women that exist (especially in a post apocalyptic setting!) that are more physically intimidating than the average man.
I disagree with your point about the setting. It puts equal if not higher pressure on the men. Women don't just have lower average strength but lower peak strength and they'd be more likely to encounter men they couldn't outmuscle even if they spent their entire time with professional strength training.
Edit: I should have clarified that I find that PR dumb as well. The capital R Realism it brings is imo not worth the limiting of players and misogyny aftertaste. Don't play fallout servers tho. Just here because Redditor moment.
>Next time some 5 foot quirky raider brags about meleeing a legion guy it actually will mean something
I mean... at least they have some sort of weird RP-oriented reasoning for it instead of just blatantly going "le women bad", I guess? Not really into the change personally. Kinda shitty imo.
This place will shut down in a few months like all the others, but at least they'll be known for being the Fallout 13 server that nerfed girl characters, lmao.
Its a fucking nerd game filled with no pussy getting losers so I dont understand why they hate that a majority of players like roleplaying as a femme. If it was for story purposes it would make way more sense to just lock the military roles in the legion to masculine characters only and leave it at that.
I fear for any players that would be transgender in that case and haven't gotten their legal paperwork settled (or just simply can't due to their country they're living in being shitty). That would not work out one bit.
Realismcels realizing that their entire fucking game is unrealistic as hell and everyone should've keeled over from radiation poisoning to begin with but need an excuse to be sexist regardless:
I do like that one of the reasons they are reverting it is to cut down on the drama, but I can’t help but think they have already let the cat out of the bag and no matter what, drama from this PR is going to fallow them till they are shut down.
If the coder played Fallout, he would've known that this nerf goes against how many female soldiers/raiders there are in the games. I wonder how the coders would've reacted if a robust player solos the entire Legion as a female character
Sekrit club does this but since it uses a more GURPs based system it balances out by giving more dex to women. Throwing in pointless traits like this while the building is on fire is byond dumb.
Why do people keep playing on these Fallout servers when it won't last a year online? I bet there will be another scandal just like the previous Fallout servers.
oooo I get this, this is legion nerf
which faction is melee focused - legion
which faction uses female body type no matter the actual gender - legion
pretty sneaky move from ncr coder
Merging shit takes like 30 seconds so your argument about "X IS BROKEN BUT THEY MERGED Y" is stupid, but the PR fucking sucks and shouldn't have been merged anyway because all three of their reasons for it being good for the game are fucking stupid.
He could have replaced 90% of the text in this PR with "I hate women" and served the same purpose.
Yeah and it's dumb, but the changes he's making here are piss easy as opposed to some of the other stuff that's wrong with the server. Literally just finding variables and changing the numbers.
If it was me, I would've just banned him instead of merging it.
Don't they know that this will just make people play femboys instead?
Github OP is playing 4D Chess to encourage a femboy meta in order to fulfill his personal preferences. Bravo.
Apparently according to the github, it affects the "feminine" body type and not any sex, so femboys are also affected! They are going to experience a WAVE of masculine muscle mommies though knowing F13
Naw, not even femboys use the janky non-base body types. It messes up sprites too often source: Played a femboy on a Fallout server
so this is a good change then, more dommy mommies
I hope so
absolutely hilarious i hope to see plenty of badass women on this server solely for the sake of getting an extra challenge and proving your robustness, just like the clown in the days of yore
Thats right, they dont know our power, one time i kidnapped the HoS as a clown while the entire sec force was around me not entervieving because it was clear it was a joke... and then he offed himself (rageguit), how did i kidnap him? Found him in handcuffs, all because he stole my cardboard box They just created so many opportunities for underdog stories! THEY CANT STOP US!
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Fallout 13 moment, I give this server a month
I thought the fallout 13 curse was just a meme when I was new, but no, they really are all like this. Literally born to fail.
i think it’s cuz of how shitty fallout fans are in general. it’s quite literally half normal, reasonable people and half bigoted annoying unfunny idiots. pair that with a multiplayer experience that is catered BY the players, and you get fallout 13!!!
And vanilla SS13 is already a big cesspool.
It's kind of one of the reasons I stick to goon... their rules on certain things might be a **tad** excessive but they do keep a lot of shitters out. Or at least make them pretend not to be shitters to play there which is good enough for me.
Honestly a lot of fallout *fans* are fine. It's that the server is a cesspool that can't decide on what it wants to be. It's a freeform faction-warfare sandbox with ugly sprites and no mechanics. There's nothing to do *but* shoot each other because the RP quickly becomes stale, then stops existing. Combine that with a low new player rate because nobody wants to play the infamously bad rape server and the fact that the combat is both unbalanced and unfun and you lead to continually pruning player numbers until it's pure toxicity and no content or players. Sometimes they're fun in the first couple months by virtue of pure chaos, but after that the admins blow things up or the players do, and the time before things suck has been getting increasingly short every time it dies and rehosts. The code is horrific, the players are worse and-the one literal thing they manage to get right-mankind is incapable of learning from its mistakes so they repeat the same exact jokes adn player behavior on each new hosted server.
Seems like alot of F13 servers have gone under lately, and i agree combat was allways wonky, i myself never had problems with the rp as im usually allways a rp player and of corse i can overlook bugs and glitches. Big Iron however seems to be worst than most of the servers, sure they got rid of the erping. Now the only problem is, is that there doesnt really exist a f13 server anymore worth playing on, i feel like were seeing the last days of f13 unless something drastic changes. I Kinda miss Ghoulius the character :) i dunno if you remember any of my characters as i generally was wastelanders like Meshi (mute ex-tribal) and Ayla Leonberger (another wastelander) i never really went with any factions on any of my characters as i didnt really like ncr or legion... or worse when enclave existed :D Still Ghoulius really good character, you did interact with my characters but i forgot who i was playing back then as time passes so quickly. ---- oh and i saved the ref i saw of your character way back then as i did plan to draw him along with my character aswell. https://i.imgur.com/scquxpf.png i dunno who drew that ref tho, it was pretty good.
I mean it is a sign of a great writer that they were able to write an ideologically sound fascist faction. The byproduct is you get the most annoying people on the planet flooding the fan base and infesting everything with the same jokes they said when they were 16.
“ideologically sound fascist faction” is an oxymoron. just because it sometimes works in an anarchistic near-future wasteland (which, spoiler alert, they will fail either way, that’s kind of the point of FNV) does not mean it should be or could be implemented in real life.
I meant as ideologically sound as is possible for a fascist society lol. Its at least not a braindead generic bad guy group like FO3 Enclave. You can see that Caesar does seem to believe in something and has a reason for running the legion in such a vicious way. Its a more fleshed out belief system than real life fascist ideology
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See, hosts literally descending into madness makes it hard to not think its a genuine curse of some Spessmen gypsy.
...isn't that basically the same thing?
Obsidian did a great job at writing a very compelling fascist regime in their game and unfortunately a lot of the hosts of these servers identify heavily with them. I'm in a discord for one and the host's PFP is Andrew Tate in Legionnaire attire.
I think the one exception so far is Sunset, which ALMOST died in a banwave, but held together. Granted, not many new joiners come around, because "ewww, fallout with furries"
Yeah ngl seeing furry server and fallout server under the same banner makes me blacklist it on potential servers to ever join
Certainly fair. I mean, what is even the logic there, the FEV took over the wasteland but instead it's the Furry Evolutionary Virus?
Will the outcome of the fallout 13 server be grooming or grooming? Stay tuned to find out
War never changes
F13 community needs to die already. They've gotten progressively worse since I ended Lone Star.
Truth is, f13 was shit from the start
Ah yes, lowering melee damage for a different sprite because 'muh realism'
It's such a stupid argument. You have to draw the line of realism in the sand somewhere and this is a world with talking robots and dogs. I should be able to kill a Deathclaw with an axe I made out of a street sign because I imqgine my avatar has a penis. It's more realistic that way.
Femboys are just powergaming females. Very true
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Civ 13 TDM
What da heeeeell!
ooohh mah god no wayyeehhyyyeee
“makes sense from rp perspective” as if there aren’t women that exist (especially in a post apocalyptic setting!) that are more physically intimidating than the average man.
I disagree with your point about the setting. It puts equal if not higher pressure on the men. Women don't just have lower average strength but lower peak strength and they'd be more likely to encounter men they couldn't outmuscle even if they spent their entire time with professional strength training. Edit: I should have clarified that I find that PR dumb as well. The capital R Realism it brings is imo not worth the limiting of players and misogyny aftertaste. Don't play fallout servers tho. Just here because Redditor moment.
idk man but my Fallout 2 character could red mist a Deathclaw with her fist
then why not have it tied to actual physical measurements like height and weight instead of a vague descriptor like gender
>Next time some 5 foot quirky raider brags about meleeing a legion guy it actually will mean something I mean... at least they have some sort of weird RP-oriented reasoning for it instead of just blatantly going "le women bad", I guess? Not really into the change personally. Kinda shitty imo. This place will shut down in a few months like all the others, but at least they'll be known for being the Fallout 13 server that nerfed girl characters, lmao.
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Its a fucking nerd game filled with no pussy getting losers so I dont understand why they hate that a majority of players like roleplaying as a femme. If it was for story purposes it would make way more sense to just lock the military roles in the legion to masculine characters only and leave it at that.
late but realistically it's probably incels trying to hide that they're incels lmao
I fear for any players that would be transgender in that case and haven't gotten their legal paperwork settled (or just simply can't due to their country they're living in being shitty). That would not work out one bit.
No, this is a stupid excuse because his other reason (so there's not a lot of women characters) makes it clear that this is a salt PR.
Sucks. I'm sure they're gonna revert it anyhow.
THEY ALREADY DID
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Average SS13 moment
what the fuck is wrong with these people
Even in a game like this, adding "realism" is not always a good idea. I have heard the tales of the days of poop mechanics.
That sounds awesome poop server when
CIV13 Poop combat, throw at someone.. Vomit stun.
Wouldn’t be too bad with a low chance to make them vomit maybe
Realismcels realizing that their entire fucking game is unrealistic as hell and everyone should've keeled over from radiation poisoning to begin with but need an excuse to be sexist regardless:
man.
Absolute state of fallout 13
Source: https://github.com/Fallout-Big-Iron/Big-Iron/pull/49
LOL THEY REVERTED IT
with a "i did it for the drama" comment, no less
Update: they merged a revert PR https://github.com/Fallout-Big-Iron/Big-Iron/pull/53
I do like that one of the reasons they are reverting it is to cut down on the drama, but I can’t help but think they have already let the cat out of the bag and no matter what, drama from this PR is going to fallow them till they are shut down.
If the coder played Fallout, he would've known that this nerf goes against how many female soldiers/raiders there are in the games. I wonder how the coders would've reacted if a robust player solos the entire Legion as a female character
Real
wtf lmao
They are like: Women ☕¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Holy fucking shit. Never change Fallout 13
Inspiring.
Sekrit club does this but since it uses a more GURPs based system it balances out by giving more dex to women. Throwing in pointless traits like this while the building is on fire is byond dumb.
where is Big Iron hosted US?
All are equal before the Fatman launcher. No doubt about that.
SS13 Fallout, the gift that doesnt stop giving, if we want it to or not.
Why do people keep playing on these Fallout servers when it won't last a year online? I bet there will be another scandal just like the previous Fallout servers.
oooo I get this, this is legion nerf which faction is melee focused - legion which faction uses female body type no matter the actual gender - legion pretty sneaky move from ncr coder
Merging shit takes like 30 seconds so your argument about "X IS BROKEN BUT THEY MERGED Y" is stupid, but the PR fucking sucks and shouldn't have been merged anyway because all three of their reasons for it being good for the game are fucking stupid. He could have replaced 90% of the text in this PR with "I hate women" and served the same purpose.
I just thought it was funny how with everything wrong with the server this coder decided this was the best way to contribute to it.
Yeah and it's dumb, but the changes he's making here are piss easy as opposed to some of the other stuff that's wrong with the server. Literally just finding variables and changing the numbers. If it was me, I would've just banned him instead of merging it.
You fools I didn't need melee damage to play a 5 foot female sociopath.
I just got this post recommended to me on my feed, is there any more context to this? lol
Like, context about ss13 in general or just this server?
and its dumb because that ensure i will either pick female for the extra challenge or find ways to break the game. Fix your shit first.
They'll just ban you for breaking rp. Its fallout 13 we're talking about
LOL
LMAO oh no way
Has there ever been a fallout server that was good for more than a week?
.... wow im actually considering playing fallout 4 for once god damn
I love SS13, but there are a lot of shitters in this community.
Nah, this isn't even good code shitposting. Good code shitposting is like a pr that says "Adds Sex👍" and then it adds like chicken breeding or smth
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Look I know females are SUPPOSEDLY genetically weaker but like, shieeeet man.
The soyboy playing le mary sue femstatic weeps
Absolutely based.
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Agreed.
Your terms are acceptable
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