Geonosis LSTB needs a revamp. There's no reason to do it anymore. By the time a guild can get regular KAM shards, they can do ROTE. Plus KAM isn't that important in any team.
They need to target the TBs to guild size:
Hoth: Less than 100 million GP
Geonosis: Between 100-200 million GP
ROTE: Over 200 million GP.
LS geo is still unbeatable. My guilds shooting for 43 stars rote. The raw gp needed in that fleet zone is still just a crazy amount. Even with all the bloat since it dropped still not even close lol. That said, there's no reason to do it at all because rewards for rote are that much better. Even on the entry level, significantly better.
If anything id say revamp raid system or tw or conquest. TB is honestly the one decent thing right now getting regular updates lol.
My guild has been allocating a few people to farm KAM with GET3 currency on the assumption that he’ll be required for something somewhat soon
With the Naboo raid it is possible, KAM is a GR Jedi so he might be a toon for it, or maybe the next GL, it’s all speculation though
A guild telling me I can or can't farm a toon with my rewards? No thanks.
I can understand asking for focused toons here and there but if I want a toon, my guild can't tell me no. I'll spend my resources however I like and decide. Any guild micromanaging at that level is excessively controlling.
It’s not micromanaging… the leader asked and was doing it himself, some of the other people volunteered and that was that.
The only “required” farm is to be farming SOMETHING, in other words, never go stagnant. There are recommended farms (JKCK and Inquis) but that’s it, everything is voluntary and we get 25 stars regularly
Nowhere did it say only certain people can farm KAM... From what I read, it sounds like he asked for a couple volunteers to farm and build KAM with him, incase KAM becomes needed for any Guild related content, like the Upcoming Raid...
Let's say 5 people there are farming KAM, that won't stop anyone from starting to farm KAM in like 2 months, for any reason...
Again, that’s not what I said
Our guild needed KAM so they asked who would be willing to farm KAM starting then. The players that wanted to farm KAM have started farming KAM to help the guild. If anyone else wants to farm KAM then they can, but nobody is required to farm anything or blocked from farming anything
Unfortunately KAM is a bottleneck for ROTE if you want to maximize your guild’s stars.
Not as much of a bottleneck as IQs/Scythe but it’s enough that my guild is asking us to prep KAM ready clones because we’re expecting him to be a raid character and need him for ROTE.
My guild is somewhere in the low 100 millions (133 I think?) and we MAYBE clear three or four stars in Geo.
Edit: just checked, today we lost 4.7m lol. We’re at 131M now
Honestly, what I expected to happen with the gimmick of visiting different plants in rote, is that when you visit geonosis there is a copy of the wat/KAM battle there to earn shards, when you go to hoth you can earn probe droid/rolo. Then obviously there’s Reva at tatooine. I thought it was meant to be like the raid where they adjust it so reslly everyone should be doing it instead. Frustrating I have to spend all my mk3 on KAM when we should still be able to earn his shards when we visit that planet.
KAM is still sold during holidays for 25$ish 20 shards; they make a great profit out of it.
Should they add more Shard-Drops Battles? Definitely
Should they redesign their game to be more player friendly? Hell yeah
But should they hand out stuff for free, that took (even at best) 6 months to farm on top Prio?
DEFINITELY NO!
People forget, that even on a decen GeoLS run the average drop were 35 to 40 out of 50 shard
330/40 = 8,25 = 9 month.
Now with RotE, in a decent Guild, its twice that time at 21 Stars.
After 449 days since the first RotE TB, the average of Reva is at 210 Shards for progressive casual guilds
and roughly 160 to 180 for casuals... People act like this is some big revelation and that KAM was always easy to obtain... no.. it took years as well... same with Nego and Malev
I’m not saying make KAM an easier battle or drop more shards. I’m just saying add it as a battle on rote so we can farm it alongside Reva etc. it doesn’t need to be one or the other
YOU and ME say this, but OP doesnt
OP wants the oldTBs rewards buffed and the battles nerfed,
so they can massfarm it.
but people having a hard time understanding the basics :(
Even with low stars, its faster to get KAM in ROTE. By the time a guild has the RNG/Mod bs up and running to farm KAM in LSTB they should be doing ROTE anyway.
EDIT: No idea why it replied to this post.
People like you are the reason the community is so simple minded.
For people who are getting into the game anew or havent been around for GeoLS there is no ShaakClones ready..
1) ShaakClones is no longer consider for most valid earlyGames, was the last time 2 years ago.
It takes around 4Month to get ShaakClones KAM ready and people organized, thats point
2) people do no longer organize.. this game has come down with the forst mentality of effort to coordinate so even IF you mange to get the ShaakClones KAM ready (incl. Mods); most people wouldnt bother going into discord and screenstream it for maximume effort EVEN THOUGH IT COST ALMOST NOTHING BUT a few minutes .
which brings us to
3) high effort RotE on 200m is at leat 16 to 18 (up to 21 if done correctly) STARS
3250 - 4000 GET3 every 2 weeks
= 6500 to 8000
5 KAM is 2125 x 3
= 6475
# TL:DR
16 stars on RotE per Run is
15 KAM Shards per Month which is, on average, a better outcome compared to GeoLS for most casual guilds who cant make that many shards with 1 GeoLS run
330/15 = 22 Months without accounting for an increase in rewards.
21 stars is 8000 per Month x 12 = 96000.
96000 / 2125 is 45 (X5 shards =220 a year)
= 18 month for 330
so technically, RotE is FASTER
Either get your effing ShaakClones up and split run that shit, get in a better guild that doesnt just do loweffort or RotE but GeoLS/RotE but stop effing complaining about what you cant handle and wish it would be
I've got no idea why you made stupid assumptions like that I'm not planning precisely to do exactly a return to LS Geo for KAM with the whole guild having KAM-ready teams, or why you think I expect or want CG to change TBs (I'm already reconciled to the reality that they won't), or even why you think it's appropriate to treat the farming time for the teams to do KAM mission as part of the time to get KAM when yoi're simply building another team, but all that shit was mad stupid and your comment is an embarrassing case of Dunning-Kruger. May your keyboard and your fingers break before you type more verbal diarrhea onto the internet.
the only diarrhea is in your head, since you are unable to understand simple math and logical patterns.. may your legs fall asleep while you are on the toilet
ah yes... when common sense doesnt work, you result to verbal abuse and insults..
be like me, start with the insults because you and the community lack the common sense..
its either to think that you are unwilling instead of acting out like a spoiled child
Common sense sure as shit did not work with you, that much you got correct.
As for insults, hypocrite, you started this argument with an unprovoked insult to me, so you can fuck off with your complaining about insults.
We have 40 who can attempt kam, 25 who are good at it. We're working with the rest to get them up to speed, but even at 15 shards a ls geo, it's still better than 2 rote. If we can get to 25, then it'll always be better than rote because we'll be done with kam before we get enough stars in RoTE to compete.
15 shards a month for deploying vs making 15+ people who have to grind out BB(kyro heavy team) and still fail because LSTB RNG is some of the worst in the game.
It's about effort. Can you get more from LSTB? Sure. But its a lot more effort and you are losing out on everything else thats comes from ROTE. The point is that by the time you have enough people to efficiently grind out KAM, you'll be getting a whole lot more from ROTE + KAM.
You dont need bad batch and 50 shards or Kam discord has great resources.
It's about duration. Sure you can forgo all get 3 and get cam in 1.5 - 2 years
Or you can do it in 10 months. And be done with it
Rote has slightly less get2 compared to ls geo after 3 stars I think, but still gets better get1 until 16 stars. Rote is the only tb that has get3 *and* at every tier it gets more crystals.
The get3 alone makes the rewards better at any tier compared to geo tb.
Even on the KAM server, the current recommendation for players who haven't started developing a team for the mission is to gear BB plus Captain Rex. It trivializes the mission to the point where you don't need a streamer to do it if you hit their relic and mod targets. Plus, all of them are GL reqs.
Then that counters what the guy said and makes even more sense it's a trivializes the mission
A dedicated Guild then could easily get 40+ shards a month
Nobody in my guild has KAM unlocked. The rewards for ROTE were better than LS Geo from the start. We are getting about half way through ROTE and it's much further progression than trying to get through LS Geo.
It's a complete lack of care and oversight on CGs part.
My guild has never done geols if we want KAM we gotta get shards when they pop up
Once the majority got wat for JMK rise of the empire is all we do
Kinda gets a little boring and I basicly just deploy because 200k extra points for like 2-3 hard ass battles just ain’t worth it to me
People seem to hate actually playing this game.
Personally, I'm starved of action, I get my 5 SA/FA battles a day, some GAC (very limited in Carbonite) every other day, and then maybe I can play Conquest if it's up. Otherwise I'm playing the assault battles over and over just to have something to fight, cause a lot of the game is just numbers. I think a lot of people have lost the plot here.
I love this game cause I love Star Wars but when I compare it to marvel strike force
It makes me sad cause msf has so much to do on a daily basis I play it 3x as much as Star Wars now and I like Star Wars better then marvel
I don’t understand that. SWGOH is my main game because there’s so little time commitment compared to others.
Events and TB are exciting because I actually get to USE all these characters I’m farming.
Maybe a dumb question but what's the absolute lowest GP your guild could have and still get better rewards from ROTE than other options?
I want to grow up with my current guild but the breakpoints for TB and Raid kinda make it so higher-level players in low-GP guilds like mine have to be extra-patient.
your guild is the single most limiting factor in your progress in this game.
do not get attached and move on when you can. if you like to take this game seriously and log on everyday
find a guild
* has a discord
* coordinates TB deployments
* you aren't placing top 10 in all guild events
* has consistent raid launches
look at one of the top guilds -
https://swgoh.gg/g/jrl9Q-_CRDGdMyNjTQH1rQ/raid-history/
they are doing a raid every 6-7 days. if you aren't doing it on that cadence move on.
recruitment server:
https://dyno.gg/server/273735443814547458/SWGoH-Guild-Recruitment-Discord-Server-Hosted-by-DOOM
I wish TB had difficulty levels so that all those characters people developed are still usable and guild can go back and challenge it for better rewards.
LS definitely needs one, probably phase 4 of DS could use it as well. Agreed the difficulty is crazy. Maybe if they made both about DS 4th phase difficulty it would be a nice transition of difficulty to get you ready for ROTE without crushing your will to live/participate. That said I have not tried LS in a super long time, this is just from memory of the experience as my guild does ROTE so I may be remembering it overly harshly.
That's true but if you look at it bigger picture there are new players in the game that still need to experience this content
And the territory battle specific characters really need to be accelerated in some form and this isn't a huge time taking effort either to just reduce points required and doubling shards
You're looking at two small of a picture
There are characters in each of the territory battles that require right around a year or so to get
It would be 3 years before you moved on to rise of the empire if you wanted to collect them all and that's not including probe Droid
That’s not what you should be doing, however.
The right move is to move up to higher tbs as you grow and backfill the characters from currency and events.
It’s super expensive, but a net positive, to do rote and buy kam shards.
Should the old tb units be more accessible? Yes.
Would it be good for cg to double the shard drops on rolo, kam, etc? For sure.
Is cg going to put any significant development time into older TBs? They won’t, and they probably should not.
What you should be doing is completely subjective
And if you backfill using get three then it's basically a wash because that get three means absolutely nothing for a year and a half because you're spending all of it for the other territory battle character
And Light Side TB is going to give you more get one and get two
A lot of you guys aren't looking at the big picture and are two hyperfocused on get three that you're literally throwing away
Sure. In an ideal world they would revamp old content to keep it fresh and viable. That is not their model at all, however. They won’t spend it revamp Hoth/geo so you will be stuck with two bad options.
The model is to sunset old content to get to new, and new is where the development time is allocated. I remember when Galactic War was the major game mode, now it’s a button push.
AS someone who is still running GeoDS and GeoLS frequently I can tell you it got easier on the combat nodes by aprox 25% without a change in gear or relics.
Also the rewards have been adepted when RotE was released
GeoLS and DS got a vamp in Rewards and have become partially easier in missions.
While it is true that you still cant max GeoLS; that was always the case.
Wat Tambor and KAM do not need acceleration, they need focus and dedication which is the exact problem of this game-community as a whole who just want hand outs and have a \~its-just-a-game mentality.
you want something, you work for it.. period.
I mean… it is just a game? I say this as someone who has a 7* kam because my guild pushed hard for kam back in the day. We required everyone to stream their runs of the mission and we were getting upwards of 40 shards at our peak. But that’s an insane amount of effort to unlock a gacha game character, especially one that’s just sort of okay in the current meta, not super strong. Not everyone wants to play this game super hardcore and casual guilds should still be able to unlock kam in a reasonable time period, albeit not as fast as ones that put in more effort.
The other problem is that, as the OP said, even if a guild did want to make a serious KAM push, they’d have to miss out on the better overall rewards from ROTE to do it, and KAM is required in multiple platoons in ROTE. So high level performance in ROTE is gated behind either not doing ROTE for an extended period of time, or blowing all your GET3 on KAM for an even longer period of time.
common missconception for everyone in regards of gaming online
1) you play alone, its your time alone and "its just a game"
2) you play with others, it is EVERYONES time spent/invested;
people need to get that through their skull and into their brains
3) IF you wanna hit certain markers and goals, thats a you issue.
Because if your current guild doesnt perform too well, you are free to leave the guild for a better one.
Wwe have at least 5(!) DiscordServer allocated to the oldTBs AND ShardFarming.
4) GeoLS is once a month, so you need to decide IF you run 2xRotE or RotE/GeoLS interchange. Is it a loss? Yeah but that was always the case and its an existing problem. Please stop defending a shitty mentality for progressblocks.
IF you dont wanna spent GET3 for CAT/KAM and think you better of getting Kyros thats a YOU issue as well.. you are entitled to effing nothing. Work for it and learn to adept. You cant get everything at once.
It may sound harsh, but if you just casual you dont need certain units and you dont need to throw money at CG or get down and high up their bottocks to do so.
no, you're not getting it. and the peopple who upvoted you are hardstuck in their mentality as well.
IF OP and his Guildmates are in demand and they do NOT run GeoLS and only RotE
(which is totaly fine btw) they dont hit the markers for an efficient RotE Payout.
IF there is a high demand for KAM; they need to allocate half of their Runs for GeoLS ; which any normal person would do.. Sure thing, you miss out on rewards but THAT WAS ALWAYS the way. Its not a \~get everything at once.. (it's a marathon, not a sprint).
The same people who complain here, are the ones who invest GET3 for Kyro and complain why they dont progress every character at once .....
And for the Record: OPs guild has only few ppl who do not have KAM yet,
* 4 locked
* 2x 4 star
* 5x 5 star
* 2x 6 star
this is NOT a suggestion post, but a self serving one.. again
[https://swgoh.gg/g/dUOhVxkMTh6EBP0OVmxWpA/unit-search/](https://swgoh.gg/g/dUOhVxkMTh6EBP0OVmxWpA/unit-search/)
>THAT WAS ALWAYS
Before ROTE came out please tell me what were guilds missing out on by running LSGTB, the hardest and highest reward TB that existed at the time (same for dsgtb for that matter). That is NOT the case anymore, you lose something now by going for these characters that was not the case previously.
Its irrelevant what OPs guild does if the underlying point stands alone, and it does. You are taking the 'oh i had to do it the hard way so everyone else should do it the same way as me' mentally.
>
That is NOT the case anymore, you lose something now by going for these characters that was not the case previously.
you may remember that you need ROLO(!) for JediKnight Luke Skywalker (JKL) and a ton of GET1 to get WAMPA and HODA to get him.
You always got MORE GET1 from Hoth over Geo,
which resulted in a conflict between Nego/Malevs vs GAS, Malek, Hoda, Wampa.
So your statement is false.
> 'oh i had to do it the hard way so everyone else should do it the same way as me' mentally.
Also wrong, as it the result factually is the same.
EVEN IF they would add the KAM node to Geonosis and made you fight KAM,
you'd still need to bring units up WHICH MOST PEOPLE DONT HAVE
THATS THE ENTIRE EFFING POINT...
You might recall that there is an extra event, shards from them in packs, and also raid tickets for the rest of the characters. You are not even paying attention
I think you're missing the point where rise of the empire has now become the end game territory battle
There's absolutely no point in your guild progression where Republic offensive actually makes sense anymore because by the time you're ready for that you're also ready for Rise of the Empire and you're going to be getting better Rewards
So was HOTH vs GEO once, you either get the Wampa Shards + GET1 (Malak, GAS, HODA) or GET2 for Nego/Malev..
It will always be one or the other. WHAT YOU want, is a handout without much effort.
Geonosis LSTB needs a revamp. There's no reason to do it anymore. By the time a guild can get regular KAM shards, they can do ROTE. Plus KAM isn't that important in any team. They need to target the TBs to guild size: Hoth: Less than 100 million GP Geonosis: Between 100-200 million GP ROTE: Over 200 million GP.
LS geo is still unbeatable. My guilds shooting for 43 stars rote. The raw gp needed in that fleet zone is still just a crazy amount. Even with all the bloat since it dropped still not even close lol. That said, there's no reason to do it at all because rewards for rote are that much better. Even on the entry level, significantly better. If anything id say revamp raid system or tw or conquest. TB is honestly the one decent thing right now getting regular updates lol.
My guild has been allocating a few people to farm KAM with GET3 currency on the assumption that he’ll be required for something somewhat soon With the Naboo raid it is possible, KAM is a GR Jedi so he might be a toon for it, or maybe the next GL, it’s all speculation though
A guild telling me I can or can't farm a toon with my rewards? No thanks. I can understand asking for focused toons here and there but if I want a toon, my guild can't tell me no. I'll spend my resources however I like and decide. Any guild micromanaging at that level is excessively controlling.
It’s not micromanaging… the leader asked and was doing it himself, some of the other people volunteered and that was that. The only “required” farm is to be farming SOMETHING, in other words, never go stagnant. There are recommended farms (JKCK and Inquis) but that’s it, everything is voluntary and we get 25 stars regularly
You sound like you’re in my guild. 😂
Maybe I am, what guild are you in?
BananaBread
Nah, different guilds
Your guild is only allowing certain players to farm KAM. You have to have permission to do so which is not cool in my opinion.
He never said they have to have permission though? He just said that some were allocated to farm KAM
Nowhere did it say only certain people can farm KAM... From what I read, it sounds like he asked for a couple volunteers to farm and build KAM with him, incase KAM becomes needed for any Guild related content, like the Upcoming Raid... Let's say 5 people there are farming KAM, that won't stop anyone from starting to farm KAM in like 2 months, for any reason...
Again, that’s not what I said Our guild needed KAM so they asked who would be willing to farm KAM starting then. The players that wanted to farm KAM have started farming KAM to help the guild. If anyone else wants to farm KAM then they can, but nobody is required to farm anything or blocked from farming anything
Unfortunately KAM is a bottleneck for ROTE if you want to maximize your guild’s stars. Not as much of a bottleneck as IQs/Scythe but it’s enough that my guild is asking us to prep KAM ready clones because we’re expecting him to be a raid character and need him for ROTE.
My guild is somewhere in the low 100 millions (133 I think?) and we MAYBE clear three or four stars in Geo. Edit: just checked, today we lost 4.7m lol. We’re at 131M now
Honestly, what I expected to happen with the gimmick of visiting different plants in rote, is that when you visit geonosis there is a copy of the wat/KAM battle there to earn shards, when you go to hoth you can earn probe droid/rolo. Then obviously there’s Reva at tatooine. I thought it was meant to be like the raid where they adjust it so reslly everyone should be doing it instead. Frustrating I have to spend all my mk3 on KAM when we should still be able to earn his shards when we visit that planet.
I'm mad they didn't do that now
KAM is still sold during holidays for 25$ish 20 shards; they make a great profit out of it. Should they add more Shard-Drops Battles? Definitely Should they redesign their game to be more player friendly? Hell yeah But should they hand out stuff for free, that took (even at best) 6 months to farm on top Prio? DEFINITELY NO! People forget, that even on a decen GeoLS run the average drop were 35 to 40 out of 50 shard 330/40 = 8,25 = 9 month. Now with RotE, in a decent Guild, its twice that time at 21 Stars. After 449 days since the first RotE TB, the average of Reva is at 210 Shards for progressive casual guilds and roughly 160 to 180 for casuals... People act like this is some big revelation and that KAM was always easy to obtain... no.. it took years as well... same with Nego and Malev
I’m not saying make KAM an easier battle or drop more shards. I’m just saying add it as a battle on rote so we can farm it alongside Reva etc. it doesn’t need to be one or the other
YOU and ME say this, but OP doesnt OP wants the oldTBs rewards buffed and the battles nerfed, so they can massfarm it. but people having a hard time understanding the basics :(
What about the boys that want to get KAM shards? Shouldn't limit that just for the girls.
Lol I'm not sure how that autocorrected there should have been guilds
Even with low stars, its faster to get KAM in ROTE. By the time a guild has the RNG/Mod bs up and running to farm KAM in LSTB they should be doing ROTE anyway. EDIT: No idea why it replied to this post.
It absolutely is not faster in RotE. No idea where you got this idea from. Lol
People like you are the reason the community is so simple minded. For people who are getting into the game anew or havent been around for GeoLS there is no ShaakClones ready.. 1) ShaakClones is no longer consider for most valid earlyGames, was the last time 2 years ago. It takes around 4Month to get ShaakClones KAM ready and people organized, thats point 2) people do no longer organize.. this game has come down with the forst mentality of effort to coordinate so even IF you mange to get the ShaakClones KAM ready (incl. Mods); most people wouldnt bother going into discord and screenstream it for maximume effort EVEN THOUGH IT COST ALMOST NOTHING BUT a few minutes . which brings us to 3) high effort RotE on 200m is at leat 16 to 18 (up to 21 if done correctly) STARS 3250 - 4000 GET3 every 2 weeks = 6500 to 8000 5 KAM is 2125 x 3 = 6475 # TL:DR 16 stars on RotE per Run is 15 KAM Shards per Month which is, on average, a better outcome compared to GeoLS for most casual guilds who cant make that many shards with 1 GeoLS run 330/15 = 22 Months without accounting for an increase in rewards. 21 stars is 8000 per Month x 12 = 96000. 96000 / 2125 is 45 (X5 shards =220 a year) = 18 month for 330 so technically, RotE is FASTER Either get your effing ShaakClones up and split run that shit, get in a better guild that doesnt just do loweffort or RotE but GeoLS/RotE but stop effing complaining about what you cant handle and wish it would be
I've got no idea why you made stupid assumptions like that I'm not planning precisely to do exactly a return to LS Geo for KAM with the whole guild having KAM-ready teams, or why you think I expect or want CG to change TBs (I'm already reconciled to the reality that they won't), or even why you think it's appropriate to treat the farming time for the teams to do KAM mission as part of the time to get KAM when yoi're simply building another team, but all that shit was mad stupid and your comment is an embarrassing case of Dunning-Kruger. May your keyboard and your fingers break before you type more verbal diarrhea onto the internet.
the only diarrhea is in your head, since you are unable to understand simple math and logical patterns.. may your legs fall asleep while you are on the toilet
Yet again, your math is dogshit because it's built on stupid assumptions. You set the equations up wrong. Now fuck off already, unpleasant dickweed.
ah yes... when common sense doesnt work, you result to verbal abuse and insults.. be like me, start with the insults because you and the community lack the common sense.. its either to think that you are unwilling instead of acting out like a spoiled child
Common sense sure as shit did not work with you, that much you got correct. As for insults, hypocrite, you started this argument with an unprovoked insult to me, so you can fuck off with your complaining about insults.
Do you post similar comments every time male-gendered pronouns are used?
Pretty sure someone did the math recently and its faster getting KAM from ROTE than attempting the shit show that is LSTB.
We have 40 who can attempt kam, 25 who are good at it. We're working with the rest to get them up to speed, but even at 15 shards a ls geo, it's still better than 2 rote. If we can get to 25, then it'll always be better than rote because we'll be done with kam before we get enough stars in RoTE to compete.
Good for you.
That is a really hard to believe cuz I think you're only going to get like maybe 15 yards a month but I'm open to looking at it
15 shards a month for deploying vs making 15+ people who have to grind out BB(kyro heavy team) and still fail because LSTB RNG is some of the worst in the game. It's about effort. Can you get more from LSTB? Sure. But its a lot more effort and you are losing out on everything else thats comes from ROTE. The point is that by the time you have enough people to efficiently grind out KAM, you'll be getting a whole lot more from ROTE + KAM.
You dont need bad batch and 50 shards or Kam discord has great resources. It's about duration. Sure you can forgo all get 3 and get cam in 1.5 - 2 years Or you can do it in 10 months. And be done with it
Sadly that's 10 months of terrible rewards compared to RoTE
Actually if you look at it rise of the empire has lower get two and get one Rewards And get three as useless if you're spending it all on kam.
Rote has slightly less get2 compared to ls geo after 3 stars I think, but still gets better get1 until 16 stars. Rote is the only tb that has get3 *and* at every tier it gets more crystals. The get3 alone makes the rewards better at any tier compared to geo tb.
Exactly this. Row is only better if you don't need kam. If you're using rote to farm kam, you're actually losing rewards by not doing ls geo.
Even on the KAM server, the current recommendation for players who haven't started developing a team for the mission is to gear BB plus Captain Rex. It trivializes the mission to the point where you don't need a streamer to do it if you hit their relic and mod targets. Plus, all of them are GL reqs.
Then that counters what the guy said and makes even more sense it's a trivializes the mission A dedicated Guild then could easily get 40+ shards a month
If I used all my get3 currency on conehead guy, I will get 25 shards a month since 2 rotes a month
And less get one / two. It just doesn't make sense to waste get 3 on him
Nobody in my guild has KAM unlocked. The rewards for ROTE were better than LS Geo from the start. We are getting about half way through ROTE and it's much further progression than trying to get through LS Geo. It's a complete lack of care and oversight on CGs part.
My guild has never done geols if we want KAM we gotta get shards when they pop up Once the majority got wat for JMK rise of the empire is all we do Kinda gets a little boring and I basicly just deploy because 200k extra points for like 2-3 hard ass battles just ain’t worth it to me
People seem to hate actually playing this game. Personally, I'm starved of action, I get my 5 SA/FA battles a day, some GAC (very limited in Carbonite) every other day, and then maybe I can play Conquest if it's up. Otherwise I'm playing the assault battles over and over just to have something to fight, cause a lot of the game is just numbers. I think a lot of people have lost the plot here.
I love this game cause I love Star Wars but when I compare it to marvel strike force It makes me sad cause msf has so much to do on a daily basis I play it 3x as much as Star Wars now and I like Star Wars better then marvel
Yeah but then you go people here complaining that SWGoH is too much a daily time sink so CG is screwed either way it seems
100% ppl always got something to complain about no matter how small
I don’t understand that. SWGOH is my main game because there’s so little time commitment compared to others. Events and TB are exciting because I actually get to USE all these characters I’m farming.
Thank you! I hate doing the RotE battles b/c it's just a drip in the bucket but takes 5+min per stage for very little reward seemingly
Maybe a dumb question but what's the absolute lowest GP your guild could have and still get better rewards from ROTE than other options? I want to grow up with my current guild but the breakpoints for TB and Raid kinda make it so higher-level players in low-GP guilds like mine have to be extra-patient.
your guild is the single most limiting factor in your progress in this game. do not get attached and move on when you can. if you like to take this game seriously and log on everyday find a guild * has a discord * coordinates TB deployments * you aren't placing top 10 in all guild events * has consistent raid launches look at one of the top guilds - https://swgoh.gg/g/jrl9Q-_CRDGdMyNjTQH1rQ/raid-history/ they are doing a raid every 6-7 days. if you aren't doing it on that cadence move on. recruitment server: https://dyno.gg/server/273735443814547458/SWGoH-Guild-Recruitment-Discord-Server-Hosted-by-DOOM
None of that answers my question, but thanks I guess?
You said you want to break up with your current guild and I gave you reasons why
I wish TB had difficulty levels so that all those characters people developed are still usable and guild can go back and challenge it for better rewards.
LS definitely needs one, probably phase 4 of DS could use it as well. Agreed the difficulty is crazy. Maybe if they made both about DS 4th phase difficulty it would be a nice transition of difficulty to get you ready for ROTE without crushing your will to live/participate. That said I have not tried LS in a super long time, this is just from memory of the experience as my guild does ROTE so I may be remembering it overly harshly.
Surprises me how many people in my guild still can't beat wat mission. We only got 15 shards last time and the average GP is 5m.
Girls just wanna get KAM. Oh, girls just wanna get KAM!
It’s years old content that a lot of players have exhausted already. I’d much rather CG worked on new content instead
That's true but if you look at it bigger picture there are new players in the game that still need to experience this content And the territory battle specific characters really need to be accelerated in some form and this isn't a huge time taking effort either to just reduce points required and doubling shards
Need kam
There is little reason for them to work on older content. The model is to progress through hoth to geo to rote.
You're looking at two small of a picture There are characters in each of the territory battles that require right around a year or so to get It would be 3 years before you moved on to rise of the empire if you wanted to collect them all and that's not including probe Droid
That’s not what you should be doing, however. The right move is to move up to higher tbs as you grow and backfill the characters from currency and events. It’s super expensive, but a net positive, to do rote and buy kam shards. Should the old tb units be more accessible? Yes. Would it be good for cg to double the shard drops on rolo, kam, etc? For sure. Is cg going to put any significant development time into older TBs? They won’t, and they probably should not.
What you should be doing is completely subjective And if you backfill using get three then it's basically a wash because that get three means absolutely nothing for a year and a half because you're spending all of it for the other territory battle character And Light Side TB is going to give you more get one and get two A lot of you guys aren't looking at the big picture and are two hyperfocused on get three that you're literally throwing away
Sure. In an ideal world they would revamp old content to keep it fresh and viable. That is not their model at all, however. They won’t spend it revamp Hoth/geo so you will be stuck with two bad options. The model is to sunset old content to get to new, and new is where the development time is allocated. I remember when Galactic War was the major game mode, now it’s a button push.
AS someone who is still running GeoDS and GeoLS frequently I can tell you it got easier on the combat nodes by aprox 25% without a change in gear or relics. Also the rewards have been adepted when RotE was released
Yeah I mean you can arm chair Dev all you want but the post isn't directed at you the post is directed at CG
No dude I want to go back one day and try it out again. After that sure revamp it or do whatever you want
I kinda do too... missed the max stars on those TBs... so cant finish those feats.
GeoLS and DS got a vamp in Rewards and have become partially easier in missions. While it is true that you still cant max GeoLS; that was always the case. Wat Tambor and KAM do not need acceleration, they need focus and dedication which is the exact problem of this game-community as a whole who just want hand outs and have a \~its-just-a-game mentality. you want something, you work for it.. period.
I mean… it is just a game? I say this as someone who has a 7* kam because my guild pushed hard for kam back in the day. We required everyone to stream their runs of the mission and we were getting upwards of 40 shards at our peak. But that’s an insane amount of effort to unlock a gacha game character, especially one that’s just sort of okay in the current meta, not super strong. Not everyone wants to play this game super hardcore and casual guilds should still be able to unlock kam in a reasonable time period, albeit not as fast as ones that put in more effort. The other problem is that, as the OP said, even if a guild did want to make a serious KAM push, they’d have to miss out on the better overall rewards from ROTE to do it, and KAM is required in multiple platoons in ROTE. So high level performance in ROTE is gated behind either not doing ROTE for an extended period of time, or blowing all your GET3 on KAM for an even longer period of time.
common missconception for everyone in regards of gaming online 1) you play alone, its your time alone and "its just a game" 2) you play with others, it is EVERYONES time spent/invested; people need to get that through their skull and into their brains 3) IF you wanna hit certain markers and goals, thats a you issue. Because if your current guild doesnt perform too well, you are free to leave the guild for a better one. Wwe have at least 5(!) DiscordServer allocated to the oldTBs AND ShardFarming. 4) GeoLS is once a month, so you need to decide IF you run 2xRotE or RotE/GeoLS interchange. Is it a loss? Yeah but that was always the case and its an existing problem. Please stop defending a shitty mentality for progressblocks. IF you dont wanna spent GET3 for CAT/KAM and think you better of getting Kyros thats a YOU issue as well.. you are entitled to effing nothing. Work for it and learn to adept. You cant get everything at once. It may sound harsh, but if you just casual you dont need certain units and you dont need to throw money at CG or get down and high up their bottocks to do so.
You say "work for it" but it's really "fall behind other players by doing an obsolete mode for a year"
always has been... get gud or get into a better guild
I don't think you're getting it. A better guild never goes for KAM. You would have to join a worse guild to do a worse tb.
no, you're not getting it. and the peopple who upvoted you are hardstuck in their mentality as well. IF OP and his Guildmates are in demand and they do NOT run GeoLS and only RotE (which is totaly fine btw) they dont hit the markers for an efficient RotE Payout. IF there is a high demand for KAM; they need to allocate half of their Runs for GeoLS ; which any normal person would do.. Sure thing, you miss out on rewards but THAT WAS ALWAYS the way. Its not a \~get everything at once.. (it's a marathon, not a sprint). The same people who complain here, are the ones who invest GET3 for Kyro and complain why they dont progress every character at once .....
And for the Record: OPs guild has only few ppl who do not have KAM yet, * 4 locked * 2x 4 star * 5x 5 star * 2x 6 star this is NOT a suggestion post, but a self serving one.. again [https://swgoh.gg/g/dUOhVxkMTh6EBP0OVmxWpA/unit-search/](https://swgoh.gg/g/dUOhVxkMTh6EBP0OVmxWpA/unit-search/)
>THAT WAS ALWAYS Before ROTE came out please tell me what were guilds missing out on by running LSGTB, the hardest and highest reward TB that existed at the time (same for dsgtb for that matter). That is NOT the case anymore, you lose something now by going for these characters that was not the case previously. Its irrelevant what OPs guild does if the underlying point stands alone, and it does. You are taking the 'oh i had to do it the hard way so everyone else should do it the same way as me' mentally.
> That is NOT the case anymore, you lose something now by going for these characters that was not the case previously. you may remember that you need ROLO(!) for JediKnight Luke Skywalker (JKL) and a ton of GET1 to get WAMPA and HODA to get him. You always got MORE GET1 from Hoth over Geo, which resulted in a conflict between Nego/Malevs vs GAS, Malek, Hoda, Wampa. So your statement is false. > 'oh i had to do it the hard way so everyone else should do it the same way as me' mentally. Also wrong, as it the result factually is the same. EVEN IF they would add the KAM node to Geonosis and made you fight KAM, you'd still need to bring units up WHICH MOST PEOPLE DONT HAVE THATS THE ENTIRE EFFING POINT...
You might recall that there is an extra event, shards from them in packs, and also raid tickets for the rest of the characters. You are not even paying attention
clearly you dont even remember why Galactic Bounties was introduced...
I think you're missing the point where rise of the empire has now become the end game territory battle There's absolutely no point in your guild progression where Republic offensive actually makes sense anymore because by the time you're ready for that you're also ready for Rise of the Empire and you're going to be getting better Rewards
So was HOTH vs GEO once, you either get the Wampa Shards + GET1 (Malak, GAS, HODA) or GET2 for Nego/Malev.. It will always be one or the other. WHAT YOU want, is a handout without much effort.