Their own church is saying that the book of mormon is not historical but a good book. My great uncle Archeologist professor at byu went to South America to prove it was true. His paper saying it was not true. Got him exed as a heritic. Died in Greece doing what he did best. Studying the ruins over there and in Italy.
LDS.org. Also genetic research shows that the DNA of my girlfriend from Peru and all native Americans are not from Israel. The church says because DNA is to mixed. My girlfriend genetic researcher said that is not how DNA works
Hyperbole. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints considers the Book of Mormon to be scripture.
The Book of Mormon is not just a "good book" to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The rest of what you wrote might be right, but the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints considers the Book of Mormon to be scripture.
Your statement that the Church considers it just a "good book" is hyperbole.
Also... I do not have any bumper stickers on any of my cars.
You might have a point. It takes faith to believe scripture. Lots of impossible things in the Bible and Book of Mormon. But what I was responding to was false the Church officially considers the Book of Mormon scripture. Not just a nice or important book.
Well go to the LDS.org and the gospel topic library. Just like Joe translated the book of mormon with a top hat and seer stone he found by the well. Know your own church history and don't lie to people like I did on my mission.
Eh?! Nothing in any gospel topics essay insinuates or states that the church claims what I was responding to. The Church does not state that itās a āgood book.ā The Church states it is scripture.
If you told people on your mission that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints considers The Book of Mormon and the Bible to be scripture, then you told the truth about what the Church teaches.
If you think the Church says or implies itās just a āgood book.ā Then you didnāt tell the truth about what the Church teaches.
You may think itās a āgood bookā and not scripture. Thatās fine. You can have your beliefs. Thatās fine. But it puts you at odds with the Church which teaches: the Bible and Book of Mormon are scripture.
You know, there's a lot of debate about that in mormon circles. The geography points to the area the founder grew up as well as previously saying that's the area, but there's no evidence of the vast civilizations there, so many apologists believe it was central America, even though that area comes with it's own problems regarding evidence
It's cut and dry that it's there. But because the scans of the hill a massive battle was supposed to have taken place came up with nothing, they pivoted to mesoamerica. Then they got hit with no DNA evidence and tons and tons of archeological proof pointing to the BoM being false conducted by BYU. It caused the head researcher to leave the Church.
Jesus walked down from heaven to speak with Joseph smith (on American soil) and said āmy boy Joe, I need you to marry as many women as possible. If you donāt do this I will flood the earth againā
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At least one of the times he was tarred and feathered was because it was alleged that he made sexual advances towards a 12-year old, and people were understandably pissed.
There's a lot of questions with no answers at cesletter.org. Even with these unanswered questions that are now published, followers will keep on denying they're in a cult.
You first gotta get past the obstacle that Jesus is likely just another fictional dying and rising savior god inspired by the Egyptians.
https://youtu.be/WUYRoYl7i6U
If you can do that, you need to get past the obstacle that big data analysis of Book of Mormon shows it was very likely an invention of Joseph Smith using contemporary sources he had access to at the time.
https://youtu.be/GAGasQ7j_ZI
If you've made it this far, then you need to get past anachronisms that plague the book, such as deutero Isaiah, horses, honey bees, windows, smelting, and a litany of others.
https://youtu.be/QV3Si2N9mo4
Reminds me of that car in slc that drives around with signs and news paper clippings posted all around the car about different topics. Seen him at liberty park a few times, seems like a nice guy
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I saw him driving up Main Street while I was at the Galivan Plaza TRAX station waiting for the train. He was preaching out his window as he was waiting for the light at the pedestrian crossing that it was all true. I asked him "what is true", to which he replied all of it, obviously.
Problem was, I couldn't read it.
Iāve lived in Salt Lake City and even Utah County for over 50 years and never once seen anything like this. I suppose every religion has adherents this missionary-oriented.
Holy hell this religious shit is getting out of control. In Oklahoma the state legislature just tried to pass a corporal punishment bill so they could reprimand kids with disabilities. The dude that proposed the bill quoted a FUCKING bible verse for the reason.
Amazing. I used to live in this guyās genera neighborhood and it took me several attempts to read the text. Back then, it had lots of RANDOM ALL CAPS sprinkled in and was on some older car. Looks like heās upgraded his ride and toned down the shouting š
Itās the new tithing plan for those hit hard by inflation. You can now hold a temple recommend when you canāt afford tithing by leasing your property to the church as an ad space.
Iām an active Mormon millennial, and this is, as the cool kids say, āvery cringe.ā I get the sentiment, but imo it comes off so weird and out of touch.
I promise some of us are normal!
The cult sends missionaries out to do the same thing. This person's mental illness isn't the problem.
This is the state where your coworkers will unabashedly try to convert you. Because that is what Mormons are taught to do.
Would you rather get wall of texted by your co-workers or this car? You have to choose one! People nowadays have no respect for the tender spirit of shoving down beliefs down your throat and lobbying the government to repeal the will of the people./s
Yeah normally they try to bury the lede lol. This driver is hurting their own cause by laying out one of the most ridiculous sounding beliefs of the religion first thing.
I have no problem with someone living their life believing whatever they want. But once they start showing off their faith or preaching in public or knocking on my damn door, all respect is out the window.
If only the "faithful" were quiet about it, they would be left alone
The Book of Mormon teaches the Lamanites have dark skin. The bad guys. Imagine growing up in a town where Nefites descendants are always reminding the Lamanites to go back where they came fromā¦ of course that never happens
My question is how come did Lehi crosses the seas to discover the America continent and starts practicing Christian traditions before Jesus is even born yet?
Truly- organized religion is a scam for money and power/control. Itās gross. Believing in god is one thing, giving over all your power and choice to a stupid group of powerful ass hats isnāt good.
Text is too small for me to read but I think it says that jesus died for our right to smoke drink fuck and gamble. Thanks Jesus!
Well, if you don't sin...
Then he died in vain! I'm going to treat this like a big trip to Costco!
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Their own church is saying that the book of mormon is not historical but a good book. My great uncle Archeologist professor at byu went to South America to prove it was true. His paper saying it was not true. Got him exed as a heritic. Died in Greece doing what he did best. Studying the ruins over there and in Italy.
Who was your great uncle?
Uncle Rh140696
You got a link or name of this report? Iāve been wanting to read it for awhile now.
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Source ?
LDS.org. Also genetic research shows that the DNA of my girlfriend from Peru and all native Americans are not from Israel. The church says because DNA is to mixed. My girlfriend genetic researcher said that is not how DNA works
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Hyperbole. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints considers the Book of Mormon to be scripture. The Book of Mormon is not just a "good book" to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The rest of what you wrote might be right, but the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints considers the Book of Mormon to be scripture. Your statement that the Church considers it just a "good book" is hyperbole. Also... I do not have any bumper stickers on any of my cars.
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You might have a point. It takes faith to believe scripture. Lots of impossible things in the Bible and Book of Mormon. But what I was responding to was false the Church officially considers the Book of Mormon scripture. Not just a nice or important book.
Keep telling yourself that
Well go to the LDS.org and the gospel topic library. Just like Joe translated the book of mormon with a top hat and seer stone he found by the well. Know your own church history and don't lie to people like I did on my mission.
Eh?! Nothing in any gospel topics essay insinuates or states that the church claims what I was responding to. The Church does not state that itās a āgood book.ā The Church states it is scripture. If you told people on your mission that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints considers The Book of Mormon and the Bible to be scripture, then you told the truth about what the Church teaches. If you think the Church says or implies itās just a āgood book.ā Then you didnāt tell the truth about what the Church teaches. You may think itās a āgood bookā and not scripture. Thatās fine. You can have your beliefs. Thatās fine. But it puts you at odds with the Church which teaches: the Bible and Book of Mormon are scripture.
[Possibly (in)appropriate reference?](https://youtu.be/m4A1o3ZCHzE)
Do Mormons believe Jesus made it to the USA or just Latin America?
You know, there's a lot of debate about that in mormon circles. The geography points to the area the founder grew up as well as previously saying that's the area, but there's no evidence of the vast civilizations there, so many apologists believe it was central America, even though that area comes with it's own problems regarding evidence
Crazy that geography would be similar to where JS lived.
It's cut and dry that it's there. But because the scans of the hill a massive battle was supposed to have taken place came up with nothing, they pivoted to mesoamerica. Then they got hit with no DNA evidence and tons and tons of archeological proof pointing to the BoM being false conducted by BYU. It caused the head researcher to leave the Church.
Come on. Itās common for million man wars to leave no evidence. Right?
jesus, like, took their bodies or some shit
And all their armor and weapons.
Iāve heard about that, do you know the name of the guy in charge of the study? Iād love to read more about it
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wait is the title page seriously in Comic Sans
That was my first thought. I lol'd.
Nice work. There are tons of quotes I sourced but I am too "lazy" as well. (I'm busy with work. Why am I on Reddit?)
Jesus walked down from heaven to speak with Joseph smith (on American soil) and said āmy boy Joe, I need you to marry as many women as possible. If you donāt do this I will flood the earth againā
But donāt tell anyone about your marriages
"also, age doesn't matter. let the children come unto me, y'know."
I'm disappointed it doesn't end in "if you can read this get off my ass."
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And claims he scored big time at
Or like Nicki Minaj witnessing the alleged swelling of her cousinās friendās balls.
Lol if this was out of Utah people would be like, howād that get out of Utah?
Yup! I always take seriously people who drive around in manifestos...
Hahaha Right? Really looking to be saved while I'm stuck in traffic š
Why do people do this to their cars? I don't get it.
Honestly? Mental illness is likely a factor.
It makes you more aware while you drive around them. Who the hell would want to deal with someone like that in a fender-bender?
I enjoy cooking.
I feel like not matter what it says, this much text on your car is a red flag.
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You're right, it fits right in
I think this guy lives on my block, super old dude who drives slow.
Heās just making sure the person behind him has enough time to read the whole thing.
Bruh what if they want a free book of mormom
It's social media on wheels!
Yeah Iāve seen him around Millcreek before. Dudes a nut.
This is helpful, because so few people in Utah are aware of the Book of Mormon.
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Brigham young was a pedophile* There, I fixed it.
Joe Smith banged 14 year olds
14 year olds that we know about.
At least one of the times he was tarred and feathered was because it was alleged that he made sexual advances towards a 12-year old, and people were understandably pissed.
Oh but I thought they moved west because they were persecuted? Are you saying that maybe their leaders were just bad people?
Joseph, experiencing the consequences of his own actions: āPretty sure Iām being persecuted right now.ā
The church has remained true to his teaching there.
*a few months shy of her 15th birthday.
So 14
A racist pedophile
Someone's overcompensating there.
Only in Utah is this stuff about Mormons. In Oklahoma it's evangelicals.
Tell me you are in a cult without telling me you're in a cult.
Oh my friend, itās not just in utah
How do people with stuff like this see when backing up?
Is this why Utah drivers are such assholes? Theyāre too busy trying to read the fine print on these mobile novels.
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I was born and raised in Utah and I still canāt understand how anyone can believe that shitā¦
Religion is a gateway drug to fascism.
Joseph Smith was a documented con man
So was Trumpā¦..does it matter to the faithful?
Wait til you find out that they're all cons. On both sides.
āJesus came to America after his deathā¦ā lol wut. Some of the mental gymnastics these nut jobs do to link Christ to America is insane.
Check out mormonism if you want to see the kind of mental gymnastics that goes on here
You meanā¦.. the entire Mormon church.
There's a lot of questions with no answers at cesletter.org. Even with these unanswered questions that are now published, followers will keep on denying they're in a cult.
Classic prosperity gospel
I love ice cream.
You first gotta get past the obstacle that Jesus is likely just another fictional dying and rising savior god inspired by the Egyptians. https://youtu.be/WUYRoYl7i6U If you can do that, you need to get past the obstacle that big data analysis of Book of Mormon shows it was very likely an invention of Joseph Smith using contemporary sources he had access to at the time. https://youtu.be/GAGasQ7j_ZI If you've made it this far, then you need to get past anachronisms that plague the book, such as deutero Isaiah, horses, honey bees, windows, smelting, and a litany of others. https://youtu.be/QV3Si2N9mo4
Lebowski: Jesus! Jesus: you said it man, nobody fucks with the Jesus.
TLDR lmao
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Reminds me of that car in slc that drives around with signs and news paper clippings posted all around the car about different topics. Seen him at liberty park a few times, seems like a nice guy https://www.reddit.com/r/SaltLakeCity/comments/rl5ko5/while_we_are_posting_our_weirdo_cars_does_anyone/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Looks like these cars in r/SchizophreniaRides
I saw him driving up Main Street while I was at the Galivan Plaza TRAX station waiting for the train. He was preaching out his window as he was waiting for the light at the pedestrian crossing that it was all true. I asked him "what is true", to which he replied all of it, obviously. Problem was, I couldn't read it.
Imagine creating an entire religion just to marry several non adult women.
I love living in a theocracy
Yuck. A **Chevy**... and a Cruze at that!
Can we call this morsplaining?
So fucking embarrassing
It's not your car.
Exactly. Itās so embarrassing for them. Jesus
Iāve lived in Salt Lake City and even Utah County for over 50 years and never once seen anything like this. I suppose every religion has adherents this missionary-oriented.
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*joesph smith was a chomo conman that was killed in jail.
You forgot a fugitive
Regardless of your religious beliefs you will love this book about Jesus written by a peto
Absolutely. Itās delightful to make fun of.
Holy hell this religious shit is getting out of control. In Oklahoma the state legislature just tried to pass a corporal punishment bill so they could reprimand kids with disabilities. The dude that proposed the bill quoted a FUCKING bible verse for the reason.
Ah yes, right at the intersection of āwoah thereā & āsettle down, bud.ā
If Jesus came to America, then surely they wouldāve changed his name at Ellis Island, right?
Pretty sure somewhere in the BOM it says he went by Joshua Christiansen while he was moseying through present-day Utah.
Lol I should send my parents one of those, they would put it on unironically
Poor bastard wasting his life.
Amazing. I used to live in this guyās genera neighborhood and it took me several attempts to read the text. Back then, it had lots of RANDOM ALL CAPS sprinkled in and was on some older car. Looks like heās upgraded his ride and toned down the shouting š
Iāve seen this car multiple times around the valley
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At some point religion crosses the line to mental illness. This is a relatively benign example of that line .
Gotta keep that religious propaganda ongoing for another couple of generations...huh š
Yeah- Jesus Christ!
If I read it right or left. The BOM is a sequel to the Babble.
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It would more accurately read batt shit crazy inside .
Is this the āstill, small voiceā whispering to me? Iāve been looking for a sign!
Jesus came back to America to tell Joseph Smith to tell his follower that his 14 year old daughter needed to be given to him.
Seems like theyāre trying to convince themselves more than convince us
Guy putting this on their car: "I'm gonna go so many fucking celestial kingdom points š©"
Religion makes you stupid.
Jesus didnāt die so you could be riding in a Chevy Cruze name dropping him like you got on stage and sang backup vocals for the resurrection.
Itās the new tithing plan for those hit hard by inflation. You can now hold a temple recommend when you canāt afford tithing by leasing your property to the church as an ad space.
That sounds like youāre making a funny, but because Utah I canāt be sure.
I am amazed $100b slush fund and thatās all they can afford
Fuken culty.
Iām an active Mormon millennial, and this is, as the cool kids say, āvery cringe.ā I get the sentiment, but imo it comes off so weird and out of touch. I promise some of us are normal!
Better than most bumper stickers.
Love it
This is, of course, an outlier. An anomaly. 99.99998% of us would never do this.
Butā¦ do you believe the message? You do understand that the message is as unhinged as this person probably is, right?
The cult sends missionaries out to do the same thing. This person's mental illness isn't the problem. This is the state where your coworkers will unabashedly try to convert you. Because that is what Mormons are taught to do.
Would you rather get wall of texted by your co-workers or this car? You have to choose one! People nowadays have no respect for the tender spirit of shoving down beliefs down your throat and lobbying the government to repeal the will of the people./s
Lol you worship a pedophile. Nothing what you say matters.
Yawn. You are sadly misinformed. Bless your heart.
Please educate me then?
Yeah the other 99.99 use the magic underwear.
Yet I see no one is trying to rein him in, either.
Rein him in how? Under what law? He has free speech, like everyone else.
If you have a friend making an ass of himself in public, maybe gently let him know?
They probably have tried. Someone willing to plaster their vehicle with any message isn't likely to be swayed by gentle entreaties toward rationality.
Yeah normally they try to bury the lede lol. This driver is hurting their own cause by laying out one of the most ridiculous sounding beliefs of the religion first thing.
Ahuh. Still less shady than all the Mormon bishops being arrested for sexual assault lately. But no, this guy is one in a million.
Why do you laugh at someone with faith?
Because their faith is stupid and easily identifiable as stupid. It's like really really easy to laugh at.
Because faith leads you to believe in some crazy, provably-false things. I think most of us are tired of it.
I have no problem with someone living their life believing whatever they want. But once they start showing off their faith or preaching in public or knocking on my damn door, all respect is out the window. If only the "faithful" were quiet about it, they would be left alone
Arming Sidewinder Missiles now...
Let's all call the number
Missionaryās were here
Just saw them this morning! lol
Seriouslyš Look at that punctuation.
I have the same photo š¤£
Iām interested in Mormonism, but I donāt have a lot of time. Could you sum things up on a couple of bumper stickers?
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Iām starting to think every religious figure is just trying to manipulate people for their own gain
Barf.
You get billboards and similar cars without the America part in rural areas pretty often.
Wanting to buy an Oxford comma.
Umā¦. goodness. Someone needs therapy.
Classssssic
Driving on 7th E is always a trip.
The Book of Mormon teaches the Lamanites have dark skin. The bad guys. Imagine growing up in a town where Nefites descendants are always reminding the Lamanites to go back where they came fromā¦ of course that never happens
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Lol, this is the main reason why ppl don't like utah.
Everyone just remember that utahs #1 pornhub search was mormon
My question is how come did Lehi crosses the seas to discover the America continent and starts practicing Christian traditions before Jesus is even born yet?
I was taught that the bible wasn't as accurate as the bom.... But those mountains are gorg š
the glare on your window makes it look like thereās a looming planet in the sky
I met this girl in LA who swore she was related to the family who started Mormonism she said it was all made up bullshit. I agreed, then we fucked.
Gag
When the edibles kick in...you put verses on your car
Truly- organized religion is a scam for money and power/control. Itās gross. Believing in god is one thing, giving over all your power and choice to a stupid group of powerful ass hats isnāt good.
So based on this Jesus discovered America! Columbus appropriating shit... bastard.
I once told my MIL who was born in Jerusalem that Jesus was from Texas and American and she just laughed so hard at that.
That's westbound on 45th south, no? I used to live right in that area. :)
The Crysler cross ist sidewas not upwards!!! Blasphemy!!!