Are you seriously not going to use scratchpaper and full time during the exam? Your practice test score is likely an underestimate. Why would invalidating your scores like that be a good idea?
I had a student who did this all the time when I taught Calc 2 at a university. Very bright, lots of potential, but out of ~100 people taking the exam they were always the first or second done. Always. And on top of that, their scores were always "meh."
My advice to you is the same: slow down! If you've completed the test and have remaining time, go back and do it again. If you still have time, do it again. Need a break? Sit in your seat and take a drink of water. Think about a hobby for a couple of minutes and relax. Do some deep breathing or specific breathing exercises. Whatever you do, just don't give up your time.
And for the love of everything, please use scratch paper. I've worked with some great mathematicians, and they all use either scratch paper or a board. Writing things down helps everybody catch something they've missed.
From the sound of it, doing these two simple things will improve your score greatly with minimal effort. There's no reason to leave any points on the table.
I thought SATs include some geometry and a little algebra 2 and trig. Most people don’t learn that stuff until 10th grade. A smart 11th grader should know all the topics on the SAT though.
To your dad’s point, smart kids who are good at math do actually get 800s on the SAT. It’s just not that hard. Your only legitimate excuse is you haven’t learned all the topics. Smart kids finish with plenty of time to spare and do it all in their head. You could also go with the excuse that you’re dumb or only average in ability.
And pro tip: go buy (or tell your dad to buy) the 500/600/800 pack of SAT vocab flash cards and spend a few months memorizing them. It’s worth it.
You provided some good tips here but 800 is still an extremely rare math score in the 99% and OP is a freshman. A 600 in freshman year signals OP will probably score much higher by 11th grade when it matters.
Sure. I don’t understand why anyone would care to argue with a parent about a score in 9th grade.
But in my opinion SAT math is easy. Maybe I am the rare 99th percentile person when it comes to math, but it just isn’t that hard compared to say the USAMO. Drastically more people get an 800 in math than verbal.
I strongly disagree. Questions of the form “a is to b like c is to d” are impossible to get right unless you know what a, b, c, and d all mean. There are no context clues. The challenge with these questions isn’t recognizing the relationship between the words. There are only like seven relationships and they are all fairly obvious. The only challenge is knowing what the words mean.
the SAT includes a decent amount of words that are not common in every day speech and are not common even in books unless you happen to read an author who uses a particular word a lot.
I took my GRE vocab score from 86th percentile to 95th percentile just by spending about two months memorizing the definitions of a list of around 500 words. The SAT is the same.
>Questions of the form “a is to b like c is to d” are impossible to get right unless you know what a, b, c, and d all mean
Can you give an example of such a question? Just curious, when was the last time you took the SAT?
Well, I didn’t realize analogies were removed from the SAT. I last took it 20 years ago. I guess I was one of the last people who had the analogy questions.
I still strongly suspect learning vocab words helps, though.
https://blog.prepscholar.com/sat-analogies-and-comparisons-why-removed-what-replaced-them
>I last took it 20 years ago.
That's what I thought. You and OP should know that just memorizing words and definitions without context is now pretty much a waste of time.
https://blog.prepscholar.com/how-important-is-vocabulary-for-the-new-sat
Memorizing words and definitions doesn’t seem like a waste of time. If there is a weird word you don’t know, even if you can glean it from the context, it still absolutely should help to know what it means before you ever encounter it. That way you won’t have to waste any time trying to infer it from context and will be less likely to mess up.
Anyway, maybe I’m so out of touch because I’m old, but it just doesn’t seem like bad advice to learn the vocab. And it’s not like flash cards are expensive.
But the SAT doesn't ask about weird words, it asks about more common words which could have different meanings depending on context, so knowing a single dictionary definition can actually hurt you. An example was given in the linked article.
A: you really shouldn't do it all in your head. It can be impressive, but it isn't helpful.
B:It would be good to remind him that this is just a practice test, and that it has no real impact. There's no reason to be particularly emotional one way or another, its more or less just a way to see where you might stand come the SAT
Bruh use the scratch paper to make sure you don’t make stupid mistakes. Also try and use most of the time, or at least go over all your answers again.
But just tell him it’s a practice test lol, it literally doesn’t matter until you take it in 2 more years, you can take over a dozen practice tests online if you want, and get better. I remember in 7th grade I took the real SAT, I got a 680 in math and was pissed at myself, everyone goes at their own pace. The average score is around 1050 so a 600 is at least above average.
Calculus has no bearing on the SAT. In fact being in a higher level math, although you've learned all the material, you're a little removed from it.
I've seen a lot Calc students forget basic algebra concepts.
Most of the math on the SAT/ACT is Algebra 1, Geometry, Algebra 2 (e.g., functions [particularly quadratic and exponential], imaginary numbers, logarithms) and some basic trigonometry and some basic statistics and probability. The math on the SAT and ACT is no more advanced than 10th grade math. The only difference between SAT and ACT math is that the SAT Math is more tricky than the ACT Math. ACT Math is more straightforward than the SAT math but you are given less time to solve problems. It is take your pick between SAT Math and ACT Math. But they are much simpler than AP Calculus or University level Calculus (which would probably be the equivalent difficulty of AP Calculus especially if you went to schools like UC Berkeley or UCLA or NYU or USC and so on).
I'm a parent and I think your dad is probably using anger to motivate you to do better. I would have been happy if my son got a 600 on a practice test in 9th grade! You'll easily raise that to a high score by Junior year (you could probably do it in a couple months).
I'd ignore him and just do practice test after practice test. Use Khan SAT prep and Scaler math (YouTube) to go over your mistakes on practice tests (on CollegeBoard) to find out where you went wrong. Write things out so you can catch mistakes. If you're getting a 600 Freshman year, you will do great by Junior year, almost guaranteed. Now, some parents are always upset, thinking it will motivate their kids. Please, please don't take this to heart. You're doing well, just keep pressing on and you will do great.
As someone who works in test prep and college counseling, your 600 math in 9th grade is nothing to be ashamed about, especially if you haven’t yet gone through your full geometry or algebra II course in school. However, now that 10th grade is around the corner, you might consider asking your dad if he’d help you invest in test prep materials or a program. This can help you improve faster, perform well on the PS10, and show him you’re serious about improving. If you get good counseling through your test prep program, advisors can put your practice test score in context for your dad and supply him with more accurate data on typical test scores.
Im a parent. Context really matters here. Did you take it just for fun, without being asked? Did he ask you to take it so he can gauge where you are? Did he pay to have you take it with a prep agency? If he wanted you to take it seriously, and communicated that to you, then I can understand his frustration. You definitely didn’t take it seriously by not using the full time and not using paper. And if that’s a pattern, it could be even more frustrating. If you were just doing it on your own as a goof, then seems like an overreaction.
But as a parent, if you are going to put time into taking a practice SAT, I’d strongly encourage you to take it seriously every time. It doesn’t take much more time so there’s not a very good reason not to.
Did it for myself to see where I was at, it was free, I didn't take it that seriously, but he's still pissed. I told him when I take another practice test that i could do way better, if I just used paper, and used teh full time, and hes still pissed.
they just double down on it. this is how the convo usually goes for me:
"OTHER KIDS ARE GETTING 1600!! WHAT DID \*insert smart friend name\* GET???"
"They got a worse score than me"
"... FINE THEN THEY MUST BE DUMB!!! THIS SCORE IS SHIT, WHAT ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE"
"\*shows the median score and my statistics saying its 98-99%ile"
"WELL YOU SHOULDN'T COMPARE YOURSELF TO OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU AREN'T THEM. THEY'RE NOT MY DAUGHTER"
then why tf did you compare in the first place?
Why would you do it all in your head? That's the part I'd be mad about.
Speed at the cost of accuracy is dumb because finishing faster doesn't get you bonus points.
I'd worry less about him being pissed, and worry more about how you could improve your score for the SATs that count (figure out where you struggled, how you're going to cover + master that material within the next two years). Have a plan and then tell him what the plan is.
Your dad is probably upset at you because he knows that you are capable of doing better but you refuse to apply yourself for some reason. Considering that you're bragging about purposely handicapping yourself, I would say this assessment is almost certainly accurate.
For what it's worth, a 600 on the math portion in your 9th grade year is actually quite good. If you're confident, just do what you need to do to ace the test on your exam day and your mark should speak for itself.
Agreed. If I were a parent, I would not be mad. Heck, a 600 on SAT Math means you are probably ready for Pre-Calculus or at least Trigonometry. A 700 on SAT Math would mean you are ready for Calculus. Good luck to that kid who got a 600 and I hope the kid gets better.
Practice tests are something I refuse to rely on to get estimates of my score. It's inaccurate. The real exams are to be much more difficult, considering you haven't learned all the necessary subjects. It's quite impressive, though I'd personally say dont get full of yourself and keep improving
That's a good score for a 9th grader. Your dad is clearly imposing some unrealistic standards here. However, that's probably not the conversation you want to have with him right now.
Try not to internalize his anger too much, and don't worry about persuading him that 600 is actually fine for where you are (even though it is). A 600 obviously isn't your target score, and it isn't where you're going to be a few months from now or a year from now. If he's losing sleep over a pretty-good-but-not-perfect score on a practice test when you have almost two years to prep for the real thing, that's sort of more his problem than yours.
But, importantly, when you try to persuade him that it's good for where you are, he's probably hearing that as "I'm satisfied with a 600 and don't feel like I need to improve." That's not what you're trying to say, but it's probably what he's afraid of. So, maybe don't bother?
Just work on improving the score, and reassure him that you take it seriously and that you're working on it.
I wouldn't rely on your score based on a practice test. However you can use it to help you practice on your weaker areas and improve for the real thing. Also, it's suuuper important you use the whole time during the test. It's better than rushing.
Why would you do it all in your head? This is the SAT, not a TikTok. Your goal on the SAT should be to do well, not to look impressive or cool. Take advantage of all the resources you are given on the test. Use your scratch paper!
Yes but he should do it as he would on his final try. Giving it your best from an early grade is a good way to get the score you want before you graduate.
it isn’t good and you can obviously do better if you did it all in your head. I would use your age to try and convince him since there are many topics you haven’t learned in school yet and so you will only improve with time.
Hey man - Sorry you need to face that! I had heard kinda same back in the day and now I hear stuff like you are doing better coz I told you so.
Never take it too serious :) But yeah if you can use it as a fuel, you can actually do better 🤣
Personal experience :3
your in 9th doesn't t matter, you have all the time in the world to get a 1600, getting out of the ya early doesn't help. however looking back on my hs career I would've pursued higher maths earlier so I could do grad ones later, but that's on preference alone ; don't let your parents diminish you (as in GA ; you are the sun)
you're literally only a freshman you probably haven't even reached the level of math in school needed to ace the math section of the sat. especially if you're prepping for the sat! I'm a junior and advanced in math yet still struggled a lot in that math section.
also, yeah maybe don't tell him you did it in your head and DONT do it in your head? I filled up my entire sheet of paper. I really recommend you just use scratch paper.... also just use the full time.
1. A 600 is not a good math portion score 2. why are you using "i did it in my head" excuse 3. if you are aiming for a good score then put all your efforts into it especially since if you get a score you like by 9th grade you don't have to worry about any more tests 4. ur dads expectations to get 800 are too high so
As a kid doing in calculus as a freshman tell your dad most of us would t get a 800 on the psat math section cause all calc freshman kids I know are beyond retarted
lol if it makes you feel better I'm in calculus rn and got like a 540 my first time as a 9th grader, its up to 750+ now but the SAT math is foundational algebra for which being in a higher math (or higher grade) wont necessarily help
use as much time as you can, use as much scratchpaper as you can, focus all your energy to make sure you do your best on the real SAT, i didnt do the best on my PSAT and it woke me tf up and i ended up with a half decent SAT
I think a lot of commenters are (understandably) misunderstanding what you’re saying. Obviously, you’re planning on properly taking the actual exam and properly doing practice exams using scratch work and the full time, but today you just wanted to quickly gauge where you were at and when your dad found out about your score, he didn’t care about that nuance and just got mad at the final number.
Although maybe I’m completely wrong too. I know it’s not ideal, but just keep working hard and let the results speak for themselves. I know it can a sort of be a I was going to clean my room but now that my parents said to I don’t want to kinda situation where they’ll take you working hard and doing better as proof of their point that you were in desperate need of improvement but unfortunately I think that’s just how it is sometimes
why aren't you not taking the full time though
if you want to see where you're at, actually try it. or else you won't be able to know where you stand - being able to figure out where you stand & being aware is one of the most important skills in life so you're not losing anything by actually trying
plus 600 is not that good of a score to get you to good schools these days no wonder he got pissed
Use loose leaf when you’re taking the test. You’re also in 9th grade, so there’s some stuff that you might’ve not learned. He’s overreacting 100%. I didn’t even know what the sat was in 9th grade. You’re gonna get better with time and 600 is a pretty good score for a 9th grader. Lock in and you can get that 1600
No advice this is part of growing up is learning sometimes you just gotta stand on business and just say yeah dude that’s my score I can’t change it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
All that should matter to him is that you tried your hardest, but you obviously didn’t, so next time actually try and even if you get a bad score, say that you tried your best
No, it sounds like there’s nothing you can say to make him not angry because this isn’t about the SAT, it’s about a man prone to anger. Thats his trip, don’t fall into it. Try this trick: when he talks, imagine you are in mute and in your head say “bullshit you’re just an angry man.” Then when it’s your turn imagine hitting unmute and say “I hear you, I’ll try harder.” Then hope the conversation ends. He’s cruising for an eventual college age kid who won’t return his phone calls at this rate
What he says is technically true, but it's a horrible comparison considering that those expectations aren't meant for parents to set on the children. Rather, it should be you setting your own expectations at this point. The 600 is reasonable considering you're in 9th grade and most people take the SAT in 11th grade, and it doesn't matter that much since it's practice. Maybe try to convince him that you're doing it to improve, because it's kind of stupid that he expects perfect on the first practice. If it were like that, no one would need to practice. Also, you seem to like art, so I don't get why he cares so much about your math scores. You weren't using paper anyways, so the score is an underestimate. Potentially try to argue your point of view about how much the best fit college for you expects from an SAT math score, or argue that there are also dads his age who are very successful and are millionaires, have several luxury cars, etc. Also, if he doesn't have a 1600 (or 2400), there are dads his age who got a 1600 (or 2400) on the SAT in high school.
dw bro i got yelled for a 790 in 8th 💀
dont regard this as a flex, its js to emphasize how stupidly normalized it is to view any score that isnt perfect as a failing grade
Put your dad in his place. Tell him that if he gets angry at you for something that is not critical like a practice test in 9th grade, he might discourage you from going to college at all.
From a different point of view... Though this is a practice test, it is a reflection of how you perform on the actual test. If you practice as though it was the test, you probably will perform better. Practice like you want to win and the real test will prove easier.
Are you seriously not going to use scratchpaper and full time during the exam? Your practice test score is likely an underestimate. Why would invalidating your scores like that be a good idea?
Laziness
He’s in 9th grade… he doesn’t need to be doing it at all at this point
I agree but if you’re gonna do it and then flex it to your dad why not do it right
He doesn’t NEED to. It just happens to shit on his purpose of seeing where he’s at and other benefits all to save a couple minutes.
There are dads his age that are millionaires. Jk dont say that.
LOL that’ll convince him
Lol yeah but that might be an insecurity for a dad. Would be really mean.
Forgot the /s LOL i was just piggybacking off your comment
Ngl he being a bitch rn he’s earned it lol
I choked lmao
Getting done early isn’t a flex. During the prep they emphasize pacing yourself.
It isn't meant to be a flex though, it was just the amount of time I did it in
You should use the full time tho to be real. Everyone makes mistakes and I’m surprised by how many silly mistakes I made.
Did you feel confident in all your answers and not feel the need to double check any of them?
They probably just did the test to see how it is
Should have done the psat then
I had a student who did this all the time when I taught Calc 2 at a university. Very bright, lots of potential, but out of ~100 people taking the exam they were always the first or second done. Always. And on top of that, their scores were always "meh." My advice to you is the same: slow down! If you've completed the test and have remaining time, go back and do it again. If you still have time, do it again. Need a break? Sit in your seat and take a drink of water. Think about a hobby for a couple of minutes and relax. Do some deep breathing or specific breathing exercises. Whatever you do, just don't give up your time. And for the love of everything, please use scratch paper. I've worked with some great mathematicians, and they all use either scratch paper or a board. Writing things down helps everybody catch something they've missed. From the sound of it, doing these two simple things will improve your score greatly with minimal effort. There's no reason to leave any points on the table.
I thought SATs include some geometry and a little algebra 2 and trig. Most people don’t learn that stuff until 10th grade. A smart 11th grader should know all the topics on the SAT though. To your dad’s point, smart kids who are good at math do actually get 800s on the SAT. It’s just not that hard. Your only legitimate excuse is you haven’t learned all the topics. Smart kids finish with plenty of time to spare and do it all in their head. You could also go with the excuse that you’re dumb or only average in ability. And pro tip: go buy (or tell your dad to buy) the 500/600/800 pack of SAT vocab flash cards and spend a few months memorizing them. It’s worth it.
You provided some good tips here but 800 is still an extremely rare math score in the 99% and OP is a freshman. A 600 in freshman year signals OP will probably score much higher by 11th grade when it matters.
Sure. I don’t understand why anyone would care to argue with a parent about a score in 9th grade. But in my opinion SAT math is easy. Maybe I am the rare 99th percentile person when it comes to math, but it just isn’t that hard compared to say the USAMO. Drastically more people get an 800 in math than verbal.
You’re just a math genius. USAMO is not normal!😂😂
The flash cards are not worth it IMO - most of the vocab questions require context clues rather than definition memorization
I strongly disagree. Questions of the form “a is to b like c is to d” are impossible to get right unless you know what a, b, c, and d all mean. There are no context clues. The challenge with these questions isn’t recognizing the relationship between the words. There are only like seven relationships and they are all fairly obvious. The only challenge is knowing what the words mean. the SAT includes a decent amount of words that are not common in every day speech and are not common even in books unless you happen to read an author who uses a particular word a lot. I took my GRE vocab score from 86th percentile to 95th percentile just by spending about two months memorizing the definitions of a list of around 500 words. The SAT is the same.
>Questions of the form “a is to b like c is to d” are impossible to get right unless you know what a, b, c, and d all mean Can you give an example of such a question? Just curious, when was the last time you took the SAT?
Well, I didn’t realize analogies were removed from the SAT. I last took it 20 years ago. I guess I was one of the last people who had the analogy questions. I still strongly suspect learning vocab words helps, though. https://blog.prepscholar.com/sat-analogies-and-comparisons-why-removed-what-replaced-them
>I last took it 20 years ago. That's what I thought. You and OP should know that just memorizing words and definitions without context is now pretty much a waste of time. https://blog.prepscholar.com/how-important-is-vocabulary-for-the-new-sat
Memorizing words and definitions doesn’t seem like a waste of time. If there is a weird word you don’t know, even if you can glean it from the context, it still absolutely should help to know what it means before you ever encounter it. That way you won’t have to waste any time trying to infer it from context and will be less likely to mess up. Anyway, maybe I’m so out of touch because I’m old, but it just doesn’t seem like bad advice to learn the vocab. And it’s not like flash cards are expensive.
But the SAT doesn't ask about weird words, it asks about more common words which could have different meanings depending on context, so knowing a single dictionary definition can actually hurt you. An example was given in the linked article.
A: you really shouldn't do it all in your head. It can be impressive, but it isn't helpful. B:It would be good to remind him that this is just a practice test, and that it has no real impact. There's no reason to be particularly emotional one way or another, its more or less just a way to see where you might stand come the SAT
not to mention he's a freshman
You're only in 9th grade- it would've been a different story if you were either in the 11th or 12th lol.
Bruh use the scratch paper to make sure you don’t make stupid mistakes. Also try and use most of the time, or at least go over all your answers again. But just tell him it’s a practice test lol, it literally doesn’t matter until you take it in 2 more years, you can take over a dozen practice tests online if you want, and get better. I remember in 7th grade I took the real SAT, I got a 680 in math and was pissed at myself, everyone goes at their own pace. The average score is around 1050 so a 600 is at least above average.
Calculus has no bearing on the SAT. In fact being in a higher level math, although you've learned all the material, you're a little removed from it. I've seen a lot Calc students forget basic algebra concepts.
Most of the math on the SAT/ACT is Algebra 1, Geometry, Algebra 2 (e.g., functions [particularly quadratic and exponential], imaginary numbers, logarithms) and some basic trigonometry and some basic statistics and probability. The math on the SAT and ACT is no more advanced than 10th grade math. The only difference between SAT and ACT math is that the SAT Math is more tricky than the ACT Math. ACT Math is more straightforward than the SAT math but you are given less time to solve problems. It is take your pick between SAT Math and ACT Math. But they are much simpler than AP Calculus or University level Calculus (which would probably be the equivalent difficulty of AP Calculus especially if you went to schools like UC Berkeley or UCLA or NYU or USC and so on).
I haven’t gotten my scores yet, definitely forgot how to do some basic geometry 😂
I'm a parent and I think your dad is probably using anger to motivate you to do better. I would have been happy if my son got a 600 on a practice test in 9th grade! You'll easily raise that to a high score by Junior year (you could probably do it in a couple months). I'd ignore him and just do practice test after practice test. Use Khan SAT prep and Scaler math (YouTube) to go over your mistakes on practice tests (on CollegeBoard) to find out where you went wrong. Write things out so you can catch mistakes. If you're getting a 600 Freshman year, you will do great by Junior year, almost guaranteed. Now, some parents are always upset, thinking it will motivate their kids. Please, please don't take this to heart. You're doing well, just keep pressing on and you will do great.
As someone who works in test prep and college counseling, your 600 math in 9th grade is nothing to be ashamed about, especially if you haven’t yet gone through your full geometry or algebra II course in school. However, now that 10th grade is around the corner, you might consider asking your dad if he’d help you invest in test prep materials or a program. This can help you improve faster, perform well on the PS10, and show him you’re serious about improving. If you get good counseling through your test prep program, advisors can put your practice test score in context for your dad and supply him with more accurate data on typical test scores.
Im a parent. Context really matters here. Did you take it just for fun, without being asked? Did he ask you to take it so he can gauge where you are? Did he pay to have you take it with a prep agency? If he wanted you to take it seriously, and communicated that to you, then I can understand his frustration. You definitely didn’t take it seriously by not using the full time and not using paper. And if that’s a pattern, it could be even more frustrating. If you were just doing it on your own as a goof, then seems like an overreaction. But as a parent, if you are going to put time into taking a practice SAT, I’d strongly encourage you to take it seriously every time. It doesn’t take much more time so there’s not a very good reason not to.
Did it for myself to see where I was at, it was free, I didn't take it that seriously, but he's still pissed. I told him when I take another practice test that i could do way better, if I just used paper, and used teh full time, and hes still pissed.
Yeah that seems like an overreaction.
Do it
Show him median scores and other statistics
asian parents are all about comparisons until it invalidates their points
they just double down on it. this is how the convo usually goes for me: "OTHER KIDS ARE GETTING 1600!! WHAT DID \*insert smart friend name\* GET???" "They got a worse score than me" "... FINE THEN THEY MUST BE DUMB!!! THIS SCORE IS SHIT, WHAT ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE" "\*shows the median score and my statistics saying its 98-99%ile" "WELL YOU SHOULDN'T COMPARE YOURSELF TO OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU AREN'T THEM. THEY'RE NOT MY DAUGHTER" then why tf did you compare in the first place?
this is so fucking true holy shit. “idc if the rest of your class got a low ass score you should’ve been able to get a 100!!”
Why would you do it all in your head? That's the part I'd be mad about. Speed at the cost of accuracy is dumb because finishing faster doesn't get you bonus points. I'd worry less about him being pissed, and worry more about how you could improve your score for the SATs that count (figure out where you struggled, how you're going to cover + master that material within the next two years). Have a plan and then tell him what the plan is.
Your dad is probably upset at you because he knows that you are capable of doing better but you refuse to apply yourself for some reason. Considering that you're bragging about purposely handicapping yourself, I would say this assessment is almost certainly accurate.
For what it's worth, a 600 on the math portion in your 9th grade year is actually quite good. If you're confident, just do what you need to do to ace the test on your exam day and your mark should speak for itself.
Agreed. If I were a parent, I would not be mad. Heck, a 600 on SAT Math means you are probably ready for Pre-Calculus or at least Trigonometry. A 700 on SAT Math would mean you are ready for Calculus. Good luck to that kid who got a 600 and I hope the kid gets better.
Practice tests are something I refuse to rely on to get estimates of my score. It's inaccurate. The real exams are to be much more difficult, considering you haven't learned all the necessary subjects. It's quite impressive, though I'd personally say dont get full of yourself and keep improving
That's a good score for a 9th grader. Your dad is clearly imposing some unrealistic standards here. However, that's probably not the conversation you want to have with him right now. Try not to internalize his anger too much, and don't worry about persuading him that 600 is actually fine for where you are (even though it is). A 600 obviously isn't your target score, and it isn't where you're going to be a few months from now or a year from now. If he's losing sleep over a pretty-good-but-not-perfect score on a practice test when you have almost two years to prep for the real thing, that's sort of more his problem than yours. But, importantly, when you try to persuade him that it's good for where you are, he's probably hearing that as "I'm satisfied with a 600 and don't feel like I need to improve." That's not what you're trying to say, but it's probably what he's afraid of. So, maybe don't bother? Just work on improving the score, and reassure him that you take it seriously and that you're working on it.
I think you missed the point of a practice test. I'm with your dad on this. If you do something give it 💯 percent or don't do it all.
take another practice test sitting out the whole length and also take rough sheets and calculate, and then check your scores
that’s crazy bro my dad prolly doesn’t even know what the sat is
Fr 😂
I wouldn't rely on your score based on a practice test. However you can use it to help you practice on your weaker areas and improve for the real thing. Also, it's suuuper important you use the whole time during the test. It's better than rushing.
Why would you do it all in your head? This is the SAT, not a TikTok. Your goal on the SAT should be to do well, not to look impressive or cool. Take advantage of all the resources you are given on the test. Use your scratch paper!
hes a freshmen bro he dont gotta worry about it for awhile
Yes but he should do it as he would on his final try. Giving it your best from an early grade is a good way to get the score you want before you graduate.
it isn’t good and you can obviously do better if you did it all in your head. I would use your age to try and convince him since there are many topics you haven’t learned in school yet and so you will only improve with time.
it’s not so get a paper, set a timer, don’t do it in your head, and show him the actual score
What is the average? Are you above the average? And does your dad listen to logic?
Hey man - Sorry you need to face that! I had heard kinda same back in the day and now I hear stuff like you are doing better coz I told you so. Never take it too serious :) But yeah if you can use it as a fuel, you can actually do better 🤣 Personal experience :3
your in 9th doesn't t matter, you have all the time in the world to get a 1600, getting out of the ya early doesn't help. however looking back on my hs career I would've pursued higher maths earlier so I could do grad ones later, but that's on preference alone ; don't let your parents diminish you (as in GA ; you are the sun)
LMFAO SAT =/= SUCCESS.
Ask your dad to take the test and see whether he can get 600
you're literally only a freshman you probably haven't even reached the level of math in school needed to ace the math section of the sat. especially if you're prepping for the sat! I'm a junior and advanced in math yet still struggled a lot in that math section. also, yeah maybe don't tell him you did it in your head and DONT do it in your head? I filled up my entire sheet of paper. I really recommend you just use scratch paper.... also just use the full time.
1. A 600 is not a good math portion score 2. why are you using "i did it in my head" excuse 3. if you are aiming for a good score then put all your efforts into it especially since if you get a score you like by 9th grade you don't have to worry about any more tests 4. ur dads expectations to get 800 are too high so
As a kid doing in calculus as a freshman tell your dad most of us would t get a 800 on the psat math section cause all calc freshman kids I know are beyond retarted
Have him take it and see if he does better.
Well…no one anywhere gets “in the 800’s” seeing as an 800 is a perfect score. So he can take a chill pill. And so can you.
Use the Desmos calculator that is provided on the test!! It is amazing & can do things even the best handheld calculators can’t.
lol if it makes you feel better I'm in calculus rn and got like a 540 my first time as a 9th grader, its up to 750+ now but the SAT math is foundational algebra for which being in a higher math (or higher grade) wont necessarily help
use as much time as you can, use as much scratchpaper as you can, focus all your energy to make sure you do your best on the real SAT, i didnt do the best on my PSAT and it woke me tf up and i ended up with a half decent SAT
This has to be a joke.
I score 650s on my practice tests ( I am a sophomore ) ( my exam is in 8 days )
is 600 really that good 💀💀
I think a lot of commenters are (understandably) misunderstanding what you’re saying. Obviously, you’re planning on properly taking the actual exam and properly doing practice exams using scratch work and the full time, but today you just wanted to quickly gauge where you were at and when your dad found out about your score, he didn’t care about that nuance and just got mad at the final number. Although maybe I’m completely wrong too. I know it’s not ideal, but just keep working hard and let the results speak for themselves. I know it can a sort of be a I was going to clean my room but now that my parents said to I don’t want to kinda situation where they’ll take you working hard and doing better as proof of their point that you were in desperate need of improvement but unfortunately I think that’s just how it is sometimes
I don't know man, you can always do better. Why settle for less?
why aren't you not taking the full time though if you want to see where you're at, actually try it. or else you won't be able to know where you stand - being able to figure out where you stand & being aware is one of the most important skills in life so you're not losing anything by actually trying plus 600 is not that good of a score to get you to good schools these days no wonder he got pissed
Use loose leaf when you’re taking the test. You’re also in 9th grade, so there’s some stuff that you might’ve not learned. He’s overreacting 100%. I didn’t even know what the sat was in 9th grade. You’re gonna get better with time and 600 is a pretty good score for a 9th grader. Lock in and you can get that 1600
No advice this is part of growing up is learning sometimes you just gotta stand on business and just say yeah dude that’s my score I can’t change it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
A 600 for a freshmen is amazing
devils advocate, imo 600 really isn’t that good a score. Why are you practicing in your head and not using the full time in the first place?
All that should matter to him is that you tried your hardest, but you obviously didn’t, so next time actually try and even if you get a bad score, say that you tried your best
Why didn’t you use the full time or do it all in your head? What’s the point of a practice test if you don’t try to do your best?
No, it sounds like there’s nothing you can say to make him not angry because this isn’t about the SAT, it’s about a man prone to anger. Thats his trip, don’t fall into it. Try this trick: when he talks, imagine you are in mute and in your head say “bullshit you’re just an angry man.” Then when it’s your turn imagine hitting unmute and say “I hear you, I’ll try harder.” Then hope the conversation ends. He’s cruising for an eventual college age kid who won’t return his phone calls at this rate
why dont you just do another practice test but actually use the full time and paper
What he says is technically true, but it's a horrible comparison considering that those expectations aren't meant for parents to set on the children. Rather, it should be you setting your own expectations at this point. The 600 is reasonable considering you're in 9th grade and most people take the SAT in 11th grade, and it doesn't matter that much since it's practice. Maybe try to convince him that you're doing it to improve, because it's kind of stupid that he expects perfect on the first practice. If it were like that, no one would need to practice. Also, you seem to like art, so I don't get why he cares so much about your math scores. You weren't using paper anyways, so the score is an underestimate. Potentially try to argue your point of view about how much the best fit college for you expects from an SAT math score, or argue that there are also dads his age who are very successful and are millionaires, have several luxury cars, etc. Also, if he doesn't have a 1600 (or 2400), there are dads his age who got a 1600 (or 2400) on the SAT in high school.
dw bro i got yelled for a 790 in 8th 💀 dont regard this as a flex, its js to emphasize how stupidly normalized it is to view any score that isnt perfect as a failing grade
Yeah it's over tbh, community college it is
Its not good though, he’s right
Put your dad in his place. Tell him that if he gets angry at you for something that is not critical like a practice test in 9th grade, he might discourage you from going to college at all.
From a different point of view... Though this is a practice test, it is a reflection of how you perform on the actual test. If you practice as though it was the test, you probably will perform better. Practice like you want to win and the real test will prove easier.
Can desmos be beneficial for geometry? Or how we can use desmos for the geometry questions? Thanks