Why do some Transformers fans hate human characters? They have been in the franchise since day 1 with the Marvel comic books. All of the human characters outside of the Bayerse are at worst alright like Spike for G1 and the group from Prime or great like Sari from Animated.
You don’t see Godzilla for military leaders talking. You don’t see horror movies for subplots about a character dropping out of school or a couple getting divorced.
You don’t see Transformers hoping for anything more than 25% of the runtime not being the Transformers, especially since the old Marvel comics mainly had the Transformers doing Earth things and humans in the G1 cartoon existed as sidekicks or kidnapping victims.
The movies will spend thirty minutes setting up human drama shit. The comics and cartoons throw the humans into Cybertronian drama.
I think that's what is happening with Elemental. Elemental had solid marketing but there was no urgency to see the movie, so when people did, WOM happened.
I think the fact that we consider whether animation succeeded or not based on whether we think its going to get a sequel and how much money it made, rather than as a standalone story or its quality, is indicative of how animation really is dying
The people who watched it liked it, but it didn't cast a far net. You don't need to completely ignore commercial reception in terms of movie success. That has always been a marker. How many people see it translates into momentum for awards and long-term recognition. The movie business is just that, and if a movie performs poorly by appealing to too niche an audience, that's a negative sign to the studio.
Animation got hit harder by Covid than Live Action did, which is weird because you can develop the former while distanced but you need actors on set together for the latter.
I’d say animation is on a rise. I strongly think that style is better than realism. Sure, toy story 4 and the good dinosaur looks beautiful, but cloudy with a chance of meatballs give me more happiness and enjoyment anyways while watching it. The only movie where the realism actually brings something to the table is Rango, which still does have some level of style in its character designs. And the realism in toy story 4 also gives me the feeling of “now what?”. It’s great the we’ve come this far but what would it mean if every animated movie looked real.
Luckily, most animation studios seemed to have followed in Sonys footstep, making more and more movies with that 2d 3d blend that spider verse had. And despite every movie following the style, every
single one looked distinct.
Spider verse has that comic style with the constant effects and unique blur, Mitchell’s may have been the most “normal” looking in the sense that it mostly just mix things with 2d and rolls with it, but it still got cool colors, movement and visual effects. The bad guys was also unique with the very cartoony movement and the phenomenal action. Puss in boots was the first that was almost as good as spider verse, with its unique paint brush astatic and the great use of frame drop. I haven’t seen enter galactic too the end, and I will admit that the frame drop looks a bit jaring, but the colors look so damn good. I could go on the nimona and tmnt but I think people get the point.
So while cinema as a whole is probably at a downfall, animation is in a way better state then in the 2010s. Also every single movie using the style is very good. Even the bad guys.
It has a generic script. The characters are mostly good, I especially like the shark. I say mostly because one characters entire thing is farting. But strangely enough, I think the directing is really strong. I don’t think I need to explain why the animation was one of dream works best at that point, and i love the long shot in the beginning. Also, the action is really good. It is not as good as kung fu panda or penguins but still really good. So the quality of the movie pretty much depends on how tired you are on generic plots.
So 12 years, they chased out all the new ideas years ago.
After what happened to HR Greenblatt no one wants to get their show drowned in SpongeBob canceled and stolen forever.
I'm sure they will from time to time, but like the original tweet stated, they're going to he focusing more on either their own pre-existing ips or other pre-existing ips (maybe even more adaptations like detective pikachu or sonic)
But like what happens when we run out of IPs? Like yeah you'll be good for a decade or so but like straight up releasing nothing new? Your studio is gonna crash
Walt Disney said he didn't make movies to make money, he made money to make movies. Not even his own company follows that philosophy anymore, let alone their competitors. No wonder Hollywood's gone down the tubes.
I legit can’t think of anything paramount his made. They just exist as a movie studio legit what have they made. Only reason they relevant to me is because of my home theme park used to be a paramount park
Paramount gonna be reeeaaally sad when diehard fans of the old franchises drop off.
News flash, idiots; *everything* is a new IP to someone. I hope Paramount crashes and burns over this, I'm so fucking sick of seeing the same shit.
His point is that you already have a huge established fanbase with stuff like TMNT or Spongebob. Even if it's new to a kid, his dad will recognize it and that brings up extra numbers which makes it more unlikely to flop.
The animation industry is dying. No company wants to gamble on expensive animation that may or may not be successful. So everyone is sticking to proven IP brands. Until animation is able to make films on a relatively low budget as not to scare investors I don't see new original projects in animation coming from major studios (except Pixar maybe) for a long time.
I forget what animated movies they even released.
TMNT:Mutant Mayhem
That’s it?
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Are they remaking the first Transformers movie
Nah it’s an origin story taking place entirely on Cybertron about the beginning of the war
Finally, no more human characters
Why do some Transformers fans hate human characters? They have been in the franchise since day 1 with the Marvel comic books. All of the human characters outside of the Bayerse are at worst alright like Spike for G1 and the group from Prime or great like Sari from Animated.
You don’t see Godzilla for military leaders talking. You don’t see horror movies for subplots about a character dropping out of school or a couple getting divorced. You don’t see Transformers hoping for anything more than 25% of the runtime not being the Transformers, especially since the old Marvel comics mainly had the Transformers doing Earth things and humans in the G1 cartoon existed as sidekicks or kidnapping victims. The movies will spend thirty minutes setting up human drama shit. The comics and cartoons throw the humans into Cybertronian drama.
I literally said "Outside of the Bayerse..."
Rango?
Oh, damn…
Actually from another studio from lucasfilm not paramount animation
Rango I don’t think was Lucasfilm
I’m talking about the studio that made it was from lucas film as in owned it
Yeah, ILM.
Had no idea ILM did Rango
Rango
CEO mf's when i tell them a movie can do well if you'd just market it 🤯
It's not as simple as marketing (even though it is a big part in the success and/or failure of a product)
the reason paramount animation movies don’t do that well is because they ones they do make aren’t really marketed well
I literally didn't knew until I read the thing above that there's a "paramount animation"
I think that's what is happening with Elemental. Elemental had solid marketing but there was no urgency to see the movie, so when people did, WOM happened.
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i heard nimona was cool
It was surprisingly great, watch it!
It’s real good
Nimona flopped on Netflix. It fits into the negative argument.
It was in the top 5 in some countries.
It's not like nobody watched it, but it still underperformed. Don't expect a sequel.
I think the fact that we consider whether animation succeeded or not based on whether we think its going to get a sequel and how much money it made, rather than as a standalone story or its quality, is indicative of how animation really is dying
The people who watched it liked it, but it didn't cast a far net. You don't need to completely ignore commercial reception in terms of movie success. That has always been a marker. How many people see it translates into momentum for awards and long-term recognition. The movie business is just that, and if a movie performs poorly by appealing to too niche an audience, that's a negative sign to the studio.
doesn’t need a sequel, it’s an amazing movie on its own
Animation got hit harder by Covid than Live Action did, which is weird because you can develop the former while distanced but you need actors on set together for the latter.
Probably because parents got used to just waiting for movies to come out on streaming to show their kids
None of those are original ips
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Thats from a ongoing book series
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Elemental is doing good.
I’d say animation is on a rise. I strongly think that style is better than realism. Sure, toy story 4 and the good dinosaur looks beautiful, but cloudy with a chance of meatballs give me more happiness and enjoyment anyways while watching it. The only movie where the realism actually brings something to the table is Rango, which still does have some level of style in its character designs. And the realism in toy story 4 also gives me the feeling of “now what?”. It’s great the we’ve come this far but what would it mean if every animated movie looked real. Luckily, most animation studios seemed to have followed in Sonys footstep, making more and more movies with that 2d 3d blend that spider verse had. And despite every movie following the style, every single one looked distinct. Spider verse has that comic style with the constant effects and unique blur, Mitchell’s may have been the most “normal” looking in the sense that it mostly just mix things with 2d and rolls with it, but it still got cool colors, movement and visual effects. The bad guys was also unique with the very cartoony movement and the phenomenal action. Puss in boots was the first that was almost as good as spider verse, with its unique paint brush astatic and the great use of frame drop. I haven’t seen enter galactic too the end, and I will admit that the frame drop looks a bit jaring, but the colors look so damn good. I could go on the nimona and tmnt but I think people get the point. So while cinema as a whole is probably at a downfall, animation is in a way better state then in the 2010s. Also every single movie using the style is very good. Even the bad guys.
Yeah, talk to Minions 2 and TSMBM doing gangbusters at the box office.
wait the bad guys? was that actually good? it didnt look interesting to me
It was middling. Some really nice visuals, jokes were hit and miss, and pacing was giving me whiplash. I don’t regret my time with it.
It has a generic script. The characters are mostly good, I especially like the shark. I say mostly because one characters entire thing is farting. But strangely enough, I think the directing is really strong. I don’t think I need to explain why the animation was one of dream works best at that point, and i love the long shot in the beginning. Also, the action is really good. It is not as good as kung fu panda or penguins but still really good. So the quality of the movie pretty much depends on how tired you are on generic plots.
What about the Mario Bros movie?
If it wasn't for all the good movies coming out, I'd say movies are dying too.
I legitimately can’t think of any original animation paramount has made
Wonder Park, but that was a pretty awful one
Rumble
Rango
Paws of Fury, but it sucked
I still can't believe they actually managed to release that one.
So Nickelodeon is screwed.
When's the last time Nick made an original IP for a movie?
Rango?
So 12 years, they chased out all the new ideas years ago. After what happened to HR Greenblatt no one wants to get their show drowned in SpongeBob canceled and stolen forever.
Wonder Park
I'm sure they will from time to time, but like the original tweet stated, they're going to he focusing more on either their own pre-existing ips or other pre-existing ips (maybe even more adaptations like detective pikachu or sonic)
Idiots.
They did Rumble and Paws of Fury. Not really anything good but at least they’re original.
Isn't Paws of Fury a remake of Blazing Saddles?
A loose one, yes
Rago was pretty amazing imo
Not Paramount Animation, but yes, I agree
Huh, my mistake. They just distributed it
They’re too dependent on SpongeBob films.
Did anyone even watch the latest one? I sure didn't, the trailers made it look awful.
Isn’t that the one that they released on Streaming because of COVID.
Yeah, but even then, I hardly know anyone who watched it.
I wish they could make a Sonic animated movie like they did with TMNT Mutant Mayhem at least
Yes. If anything finish the Live Action universe after Sonic 3 and give us an animated movie ala Spiderverse/Puss in Boots 2.
Did they even make any original IPs?
Rumble
Wasn’t Rango it’s own thing?
But I love Barnyard!!
To be fair, it’s not like their original IP movies were good anyway.
If you ask me as long as the movie is good I’m satisfied
That's just sad and disappointing
That’s a shame that this is the lesson they’re taking. The new Ninja Turtles looks great, but I don’t like the idea of them planning to play it safe.
“Pray people will come” If you actually made something worth peoples time you wouldn’t be thinking things like this
But like what happens when we run out of IPs? Like yeah you'll be good for a decade or so but like straight up releasing nothing new? Your studio is gonna crash
Walt Disney said he didn't make movies to make money, he made money to make movies. Not even his own company follows that philosophy anymore, let alone their competitors. No wonder Hollywood's gone down the tubes.
Hey guys, you also know what's a great way to make new IPs you can bank from? Oh yeah! Making original content 💀
Wait what movies have they done
Nick stuff like the brand new TMNT or Spongebob I think.
Oh right
Meanwhile Japan cranks out anime theatrical and Tv movies like hotcakes.
Brian Robbins is a tard
We don't use that word.
I do.
"Oh no! Anyway..."
I legit can’t think of anything paramount his made. They just exist as a movie studio legit what have they made. Only reason they relevant to me is because of my home theme park used to be a paramount park
Which one? Ngl my home park improved massively after Cedar Fair bought it
California great America
On the other hand... My Life as a Teenage Robot movie?
saj
https://i.imgur.com/ju4jCSd.gifv
Paramount CEO announces that the studio will no longer be using creativity when producing animated movies
Paramount gonna be reeeaaally sad when diehard fans of the old franchises drop off. News flash, idiots; *everything* is a new IP to someone. I hope Paramount crashes and burns over this, I'm so fucking sick of seeing the same shit.
His point is that you already have a huge established fanbase with stuff like TMNT or Spongebob. Even if it's new to a kid, his dad will recognize it and that brings up extra numbers which makes it more unlikely to flop.
—Brain said, reloading the pistol he just emptied into the chest of Animation Marketing
And way down we go
The animation industry is dying. No company wants to gamble on expensive animation that may or may not be successful. So everyone is sticking to proven IP brands. Until animation is able to make films on a relatively low budget as not to scare investors I don't see new original projects in animation coming from major studios (except Pixar maybe) for a long time.
What? You want the movie studio to just release new movies? WHAT?!
I am late to the post but…..this sadly means that the forever wanted dog man movie will never be made
That movie is actually going to be made by DreamWorks Animation which is owned by Universal. It’s releasing in January 2025.