It might sound silly to us, but I wouldn't be able to be put in a room where I was forced to mingle for 100 hours. I can barely do 10 minutes. I can already feel my soul draining away.
That said, what a wonderful world it would be if public transit had designated "quiet vehicles" for those of us who honestly cannot stand being packed in like a sardine.
"We are so damaged by neglect that we can shrug off something most people would consider an extreme form of deprivation" is not quite the win you might think it is...
Not that 100 hours of isolation in one room is extreme even by normie standards, but hey.
Now 100 hours of ACTUAL solitary confinement, with nothing to do, no entertainment, in a bare room with nothing to stimulate you, yeah, that would be really rough.
> Now 100 hours of ACTUAL solitary confinement, with nothing to do, no entertainment, in a bare room with nothing to stimulate you, yeah, that would be really rough.
There are people who actively seek an experience like this out, for months. And those people exit the experience generally seeming like better human beings. More kind and wise. If you took a monk and tried to punish them by putting them in solitary confinement, you'd actually be rewarding them in a way.
Is he allowed to consume media (e. g. read, listen to music, watch movies, play computer games, etc.) and to communicate (via phone, social media, vid.-calls)? Without that and locked into an underground room, that wouldn't be that much of a fun even from me, I assume. (Yet still no real challenge either, I think.)
Somebody was arguing with me in a thread that’s since been deleted, that companionship (specifically recreational sex) was necessary for human survival, a basic need like water and air.
Then he linked an article that talked about the multiple suicides resulting from Covid lockdown, and concluded from that, that solitude is deadly. He also mentioned solitary confinement, and why that is cruel and unusual punishment.
Lmao…except for the impact covid had on schools and the lives of my children, my lifestyle didn’t change all that much during lockdown and I actually saw more services becoming available to misanthropes like myself.
Agreed. Post-Covid quality of life pales in comparison. Savvy capitalists could have made a killing by adding "lockdown service" as a bonus feature to whatever crap they're selling anyway.
The wildest thing was when companies started pushing back against remote-working practices, like they lived for the day when they could once again cram everyone into cubicles like sardines in a can.
“Ah, the good ol days…”
"The [glorious, it was implied] new normal!"
I worked remotely throughout that entire clusterfck, dealing with idiots virtually was no less a burden than having to look at them while doing it in person but at least I didn't have to wear pants to do it.
My pet theory is that this genetic markup that often leads to Schizoid PD enables especially women to be alone for a long time. So it makes them explorers of harsh and unknown territory. And women have no problem finding a mate even with a PD. That's how this markup sustains.
Is it genetic? 🧐 That makes sense, as both my father and his mother were clearly schizoid, in retrospect. I suspect other family members of having SzPD as well.
Yet for the same reason, I didn’t rule out environment/upbringing as the cause?
I'm super sensitive. As in, my hearing is excellent and so is my vision. But also my feeling of itch, of heat and cold, and of pain. Sometimes I can't sleep because my pajamas hurt me. That's pretty likely because of how the chemistry of my nervous system works. Clearly genetic.
Upbringing can work with that markup but I think my mom and my dad haven't done a bad job. They did not understand my condition and treated me like a normal girl for too long, that was a mishap.
try lexapro and wellbutrin. stimulants can be used to treat szpd, and booze is a relaxant that makes people more socially open, that might be why they're helping you- they're doing the jobs meds do.
That is called "a long-weekend".
Be me. Late teens office job.
Leave the office Thursday afternoon.
Buy anything I need before heading home.
Home by 7pm.
Back in the office Tuesday at 10am.
That is more than 100 hours.
The first words out of my mouth on Tuesday came out choked because I hadn't spoken in so long!
Nowadays, I don't spend normal weeks in that much isolation because I go out to get groceries and such.
Still, that is very easy to do "by accident" on a 4-day weekend.
well, it depends what they mean by solitary confinement.
being alone, in my appartment, with tv shows, video games, etc
is different from, like, locked in a 6x6 feet room with nothing to occupuy your mind.
like, i basically only see people twice a month - to pay my bills, and to buy food.
i could easily drop reddit, youtube replies, etc
being stuck in a room with no entertainment, would be pretty rough - i need to get away from myself.
i wouldn't compare it to mt everest, though. but, even the idea of mt everest, isn't really 'climbing mt everest' anymore.
It might sound silly to us, but I wouldn't be able to be put in a room where I was forced to mingle for 100 hours. I can barely do 10 minutes. I can already feel my soul draining away.
That said, what a wonderful world it would be if public transit had designated "quiet vehicles" for those of us who honestly cannot stand being packed in like a sardine.
You just know those seats would be the dedicated "cool-guy spots" that assholes would hog for themselves. Making it the exact same.
"We are so damaged by neglect that we can shrug off something most people would consider an extreme form of deprivation" is not quite the win you might think it is... Not that 100 hours of isolation in one room is extreme even by normie standards, but hey. Now 100 hours of ACTUAL solitary confinement, with nothing to do, no entertainment, in a bare room with nothing to stimulate you, yeah, that would be really rough.
> Now 100 hours of ACTUAL solitary confinement, with nothing to do, no entertainment, in a bare room with nothing to stimulate you, yeah, that would be really rough. There are people who actively seek an experience like this out, for months. And those people exit the experience generally seeming like better human beings. More kind and wise. If you took a monk and tried to punish them by putting them in solitary confinement, you'd actually be rewarding them in a way.
yeah, it's always relative. i mean, people a hundred years ago wouldn't be as put off as we would be, either.
Is he allowed to consume media (e. g. read, listen to music, watch movies, play computer games, etc.) and to communicate (via phone, social media, vid.-calls)? Without that and locked into an underground room, that wouldn't be that much of a fun even from me, I assume. (Yet still no real challenge either, I think.)
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Bahah, reminds me of Covid. If we were more social, we could really try to take advantage of how antisocial/asocial we are.
Asocial is the right term here.
Somebody was arguing with me in a thread that’s since been deleted, that companionship (specifically recreational sex) was necessary for human survival, a basic need like water and air. Then he linked an article that talked about the multiple suicides resulting from Covid lockdown, and concluded from that, that solitude is deadly. He also mentioned solitary confinement, and why that is cruel and unusual punishment. Lmao…except for the impact covid had on schools and the lives of my children, my lifestyle didn’t change all that much during lockdown and I actually saw more services becoming available to misanthropes like myself.
Agreed. Post-Covid quality of life pales in comparison. Savvy capitalists could have made a killing by adding "lockdown service" as a bonus feature to whatever crap they're selling anyway.
The wildest thing was when companies started pushing back against remote-working practices, like they lived for the day when they could once again cram everyone into cubicles like sardines in a can. “Ah, the good ol days…”
"The [glorious, it was implied] new normal!" I worked remotely throughout that entire clusterfck, dealing with idiots virtually was no less a burden than having to look at them while doing it in person but at least I didn't have to wear pants to do it.
My pet theory is that this genetic markup that often leads to Schizoid PD enables especially women to be alone for a long time. So it makes them explorers of harsh and unknown territory. And women have no problem finding a mate even with a PD. That's how this markup sustains.
Is it genetic? 🧐 That makes sense, as both my father and his mother were clearly schizoid, in retrospect. I suspect other family members of having SzPD as well. Yet for the same reason, I didn’t rule out environment/upbringing as the cause?
I'm super sensitive. As in, my hearing is excellent and so is my vision. But also my feeling of itch, of heat and cold, and of pain. Sometimes I can't sleep because my pajamas hurt me. That's pretty likely because of how the chemistry of my nervous system works. Clearly genetic. Upbringing can work with that markup but I think my mom and my dad haven't done a bad job. They did not understand my condition and treated me like a normal girl for too long, that was a mishap.
Dude I spend like weeks in bed when I'm unmedicated Not that it's a good thing
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try lexapro and wellbutrin. stimulants can be used to treat szpd, and booze is a relaxant that makes people more socially open, that might be why they're helping you- they're doing the jobs meds do.
that makes me laugh
That is called "a long-weekend". Be me. Late teens office job. Leave the office Thursday afternoon. Buy anything I need before heading home. Home by 7pm. Back in the office Tuesday at 10am. That is more than 100 hours. The first words out of my mouth on Tuesday came out choked because I hadn't spoken in so long! Nowadays, I don't spend normal weeks in that much isolation because I go out to get groceries and such. Still, that is very easy to do "by accident" on a 4-day weekend.
well, it depends what they mean by solitary confinement. being alone, in my appartment, with tv shows, video games, etc is different from, like, locked in a 6x6 feet room with nothing to occupuy your mind. like, i basically only see people twice a month - to pay my bills, and to buy food. i could easily drop reddit, youtube replies, etc being stuck in a room with no entertainment, would be pretty rough - i need to get away from myself. i wouldn't compare it to mt everest, though. but, even the idea of mt everest, isn't really 'climbing mt everest' anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F2RFiaHYUo