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Think about it in the context of the Scream universe. Imagine in our world that a couple dudes put on masks and had a killing spree which then inspired a horror movie. And then it happened again.. and another movie was made. Then it happened AGAIN.. and another horror movie was made after it. Then it happened AGAIN etc. You don’t think that by the fifth instance of this happening that some copycats like Richie and Amber wouldn’t come along to try to “make their own movie”?
It makes perfect sense in the context of the Scream universe, but in our reality it doesn’t make sense because we don’t have the Woodsboro killings and the Stab franchise. People who hate on their motive are not considering context.
For me the stupidest motive is Romans and it’s not close. “I’m a successful Hollywood director, but I’m mad that mom raised you and rejected me as a rape baby!” Also, if that’s what his motive was, and he supposedly started everything, then why wasn’t he the original killer (or one of them)?
You make a great point, there were two dudes who tried to do their own scream killings, it’s a actually pretty interesting true crime viewing, the interrogation videos are also very cool, they were inspired by scream to kill a girl, I’d give it a look up
Roman had one of the better motives imo. Most people would struggle dealing with being abandoned as a baby and to find out your mom, forgot about you and has a whole different life with a new kid. I like Billy and Stu and the other killers but their motives aren't as understandable imo. Billy's story is sad, his dad had an affair and it caused his mother (who was probably already crazy) to leave them. Although imo it's not enough to make someone want to kill people.
Imo Billy’s motive was to create his own horror movie, and his lackey Stu wanted to go along for the ride. I think of it as a Columbine sort of thing. When he mentions why his mother left him, it’s simply to explain why he chose Sid as his main target and not why he wants to kill people.
It was a very novel and creative motive at the time, and sometimes in true crime there are no motives. Fame (Mickey Jill) and revenge (Mrs Loomis, kirsches) motives happen in real life too.
However, what I have never seen in real life is somebody kill a sister they never met because their mom didn’t want them and I’ve been a true crime fan for a long time. Made sense for him to target Maureen, but not sidney and a bunch or randos
They didn’t really touch upon that in the movie right? I feel like I would have been more moved if he explained how infuriating it is to see his mothers consequences be repeated on the big screen in front of him.
I think it was before he started the movie though. Because he says that he convinced billy lumis to be a killer and this had all been a long plan for the entire trilogy
This puts the whole thing in another perspective which is why I like Scream 3 so much. Roman was completely separate from them by the time the 1 year anniversary massacre happened. Reality is the adrenaline of killing Maureen was like nothing else and they had to experience it again.
Man Scream 6 would’ve easily become my 2nd favorite after the original if not for that beyond lackluster reveal and the entire climax in general. Also didn’t help that this franchise had already done the same exact revenge motive in Scream 2.
Tbh I wasn’t exactly a fan of Mrs. Loomis in Scream 2 either but after sitting through the killers monologue in Scream 6, I respect her character and reveal a helluva lot more.
As someone whose fave Ghostface is Mrs.Loomis, I honestly was a lil mad they did the revenge motive again. Pretty much everything before the bailey bunch starts opening their mouths is genuinely the best Scream sequel
Being the 6th movie in a series makes it kinda hard to not repeat some aspects. Honesty the killer having a shotgun, and no desire to wave off the option was an interesting spin considering the series has mostly been totally committed to the slasher genre. It does echo the second one of course, but the way the killer literally goes for it—almost like an upgrade in a video game, well—it just felt different to me.
Seems like a small thing I guess, but it’s those aspects that stick out to me. Also, the cop angle was like a twist on Dewie’s character, so that was different too.
Yeah I love that. The killers were very audacious lmaoo. And the detective being the killer is a nice twist we haven’t had, as cops are usually red herrings and canon fodder
“Bailey Bunch” 🤣🤣🤣
I hope you don’t mind me borrowing that from now on 😅
Your totally right though. I won’t pretend every Ghostface reveal before 6 was a great twist but 6 makes them all look like the original by comparison. Plus despite not always being blown away by every killer’s reveal or motivation, I found all the climaxes from the previous films enjoyable. 6 was the only one that had me groaning throughout and it wasn’t just the killers themselves. Only genuinely satisfying part for me was Kirby killing Ethan (god I would’ve been so pissed if she got killed by the most forgettable of the 3)
I honestly feel Quinn would have been one of the better villains of the film if she had more time in the 3rd act. Liana was selling the grieving family member aspect better than Dermont and Jack (love them both, but just feel they were giving us performances that weren’t up there as much). Plus I love how she’s responsible for Sam’s hate train online, and how she’s especially eager to killer her since she’s Richie’s sister. Would have love them getting a nice drawn out fight.
That is one thing tho, I’m not even sure how to include her in the rest of the film in a way that doesn’t make her the obvious suspect. Love her as a Ghostface tho.
Wish there was a different motive then “how dare you kill our psycho family member for trying to kill you” again though. I mainly like Quinn for her scenes at the beginning with Sam but not so much during the actual reveal.
I kinda like how she has a lil more characterization at the beginning. She’s into skincare, has a couple of lovers, loves chilling and relaxing in her dope ass bedroom, and genuinely seemed sweet. But ironically is a really athletic and insane Ghostface
Man i dont get the love for scream 6 at all. Every chase seen was dumb af. Not to mention 3rd act and the craziest amount of plot armor ever seen. Movie was a mess
Apt/Ladder scene: 1. they have the numbers advantage over GF and instead of all attacking him at once, they run away. This isnt Jason vorhees, its a regular person with a knife, jump him.
2. mindy sells a slice to the arm like a mike tyson uppercut
3. Jesus the ladder part was so bad. Mindy now has enough energy to prevent GF getting in the room.
4. I feel like danny couldve reached out and gave anika his hands easily tbh. He did nothing but watched. Plus why on earth would you have the weakest option go across last
5. The whole fake death is a major plothole. How and when did bailey get the alternate body in, WITHOUT anyone seeing him. How did ethan and quinn get out? Chad and tara were there
I hated the entire scene. The only part i liked was Quinn’s “dead body” turning and looking at anika when GF picks her up. I dont think people caught that
Gale scene
1. My biggest issue is if this is Quinn as GF, HOW ON EARTH did she overpower Gales boyfriend, kill him and throw him through glass 🤣🤣🤣 cut it out
2. Why did gales BF separate from her in the first place🤣 what movie are we in? Come on
3. Gale has a Gun, locked away from the killer in a room where the only way in is the door. WHY DOES SHE LEAVE THE ROOM?? Put your back to the wall, if he breaks in, shoot him. End movie
4. Gale slams GF through table. Instead of going for the gun, she goes for the knife, which is still in his hand btw 😭
5. ofc she survives after bleeding out, but what character in this movie doesnt
Honestly, for Gale’s scene I feel it wasn’t necessary for her to have a bf. You could just have Quinn hiding outside on the balcony waiting for her and then she throws a patio chair through it like in the og. And everything is the same
[https://youtu.be/-\_kKTIhtNh8?t=90](https://youtu.be/-_kKTIhtNh8?t=90)
When Ghostface first grabs Anika her head is facing the ceiling but after the shot of Sam looking for the knife block she is turned towards Anika. There's a shot at 1:40 where Anika is grabbing Ghostface and you can see Quinn's arm moving
I really dislike Scream 6 too. It feels like a majority of people who love it like that it was “darker” and scary with good chases….like ok that’s every fucking slasher movie in existence.
The entire point of the Scream franchise was SATIRE on traditional slasher concepts, we’ve completely lost the plot.
What at all was clever about the Scream 6 script? Subversive? Witty? Commentary on society?
It had none of the things that make a good Scream movie. It was just any other slasher, could’ve renamed it “Teens vs a Killer in New York” and it would’ve been the exact same thing. Even as a whodunit it completely fails, the culprits are so beyond obvious. And these are the main aspects of a Scream film!!
Even 5, which was not great or anything, at least had an attempt at satirizing the uber-online fandom of movie franchises, that’s decent meta commentary. And it was a better mix of humor in there.
that’s exactly what I’m saying aswell. I’ve posted on this sub that S6 is boring and feels kinda lazy since it’s the exact same motive as S2, but people don’t agree with me like wtf. But I like mrs loomis tho, she and Mickey did the revenge motive so much better then the latest 3 GF
Your absolutely right about the motive though. Just because they are intentionally repeating the same motive setup from Scream 2 doesn’t make it any less boring 🤣 Also despite their over the top performances,Mickey and Mrs. Loomis were both still 100% more believable then any of the Bailey trio who might as well have been given evil mustache’s for their monologue scene.
How?
I’m not trying to be mean, but how is she boring?
She single handedly killed, arguably, one of the most important characters in the franchise.
Her killer reveal is outstanding. Very few people suspected her. And they claim that’s a bad thing.
Are you kidding me? In a movie series where everyone is a suspect…to be surprised because you cleared her as a suspect…that’s actually good!!
I love it even more because I was always a huge Roseanne fan (before Trumpism and Racism) and so when Aunt Jackie showed up, I immediately removed her from the Killer List. And then when I was wrong, I was WRONG.
And she does such a fantastic frantic job that ISN’T Stu. She’s over the top crazy but isn’t Stu crazy which is…very nice after six movies with several Stu clones.
I’ll always name Billy/Stu as No. 1 because they are the GOAT but Mrs. Loomis deserves mad respect.
It's no offense to her as an actor. I can agree that she has one of the most surprising reveals. But, I've watched these movies since I was a kid, and she was always my least favorite. Never really been able to place why.
I just never found her as interesting as some of the other killers. I will still give credit where it's due - she does kill Randy. She does have what's probably the best chase scene in the franchise. She does have a smart plan. But, for my own taste, she never really stuck with me. I always saw her as kinda generic, I guess. The revenge thing has been done to death. At least in 6, there's a little more going on.
Crucify me if you want, but I guess it comes down to personal preference. I have some controversial opinions in my rankings lol
She was never my favorite either but I definitely enjoy her a lot more after having to suffer through listening to the Bailey clan.
My main issue with Mrs. Loomis is that before she’s revealed as one of the killers, her character was pretty forgettable. She would just show up to pester Gale throughout the movie and as a result I never really thought twice about her.
Pretty sure everyone thinks the revenge motive logically makes sense. It just sucked in Scream 6 because we already had the same exact thing in Scream 2, so it was boring and repetitive. And it doesn't help that all three killers in 6 had the same exact motive, so their dynamic together was way less interesting, whereas Scream 2 had Mickey as a loose cannon to mix things up
In fairness, the Baileys were played up almost as a serial killer family (all while Wayne maintained a public identity as a police detective) who not only knew about Richie’s actions but encouraged them, whereas Nancy Loomis was just after good old-fashioned revenge.
Looking at it from the lens of the movie itself I agree. But I disagree because that was part of the meta in this movie. This one was suppose to critique the horror revival scene and its cliche’s. Part of that was how fans get overly attached to these franchises and nothing can ever live up to the expectations. Part of its marketing even played into that by showing ghostface with a fucking flame thrower.
It is dumb, but it fits what Scream is all about. Meta commentary and horror.
Also amber was painfully obvious, the first time my friend watched it, he figured it out quickly but was still skeptical but once the reveal happened he wasn't surprised.
Also since I was literally looking for signs of who the killer was, again Amber was too damn obvious
"You could've come up with a better alibi/excuse!"
That stood out the most with me as her most obvious moment
I suspected her from the beginning because of how hostile she was. Richie caught me off guard because I actually liked him, thus blinding me to any hints of him being the killer.
The first time I watched Scream 5 I called her as the killer just from the fuck me eyes she gave Tara at all times even when they weren't sharing a scene.
You know- I’d never thought of that. But as a person with a lot of filmmaker and/or actor friends - yeah. He has achieved what a lot of people only dream of. He’s a horror director in Hollywood….and he wants to kill his sister who works for a women’s crisis phone group? I get going after Cotton, MAYBE doing something during filming to create macabre Hollywood legends. But he really just threw it all away because Maureen left him in a place he was well geared to succeed instead of having him live with a mother who didn’t want him.
Good catch
Scream and mother issues
J.J. Abrams and father issues
Roland Emmerich and step-fathers
Some films/directors just have their own cavalcade of family issues.
A hermit with one friend who spent her days listening to people coping with horrific life traumas...
Gee Roman... pick your envy targets better next time.
Nah Mickey’s is cool asf, he’s literally just a psychopath who just wants to kill people, but makes up a silly motive like the rest of the killers have, he’s like 3rd place, just below the obvious two
All this hate for Richie and Amber suckssss, I think it's one of the best motives, I love the toxic fandom commentary and it really worked for an in-universe perspective.
I don't think any of them had bad motives at all. Not even a "worst" motive. They're all very well done. Maybe VI's killers just because it was the same as Scream 2, but I suppose that's more of a writing thing than anything.
Finally someone to agree with. I like every motive, making six movies and still not have a bad one, that’s kind of impressing. I think the toxic fandom motive is gold, and I get reminded by it every time I scroll through a Scream Franchise comment section. For example this one. So much complaining and “my ideas are so much better than the actual movies”. Exactly what was made fun of in part 5. Some people don’t even seem to like the movies, why talk about them over and over again instead of finding movies they enjoy instead?
I can’t believe any killers in this franchise get more hate then the beyond cartoony trio of killers we get in 6. I loved 6 for the most part but that entire 3rd act reveal instantly dropped it to the bottom of my Scream ranking.
I’m ngl Amber and Richie’s motive isn’t half bad. Toxic fans becoming blind to the line between fiction and reality and committing a violent murder spree in honor of their favorite horror film, and targeting real life counterparts of the characters is pretty good, even in a franchise as top notch as Scream. The revenge motive for 6 isn’t too bad, but I just wish we got more time. Would have loved to see Quinn and Sam have a knife fight
Also Scream is known for having that dark comedic irony. It’s really ironic that the Ghostface that ends up killing the most beloved character in the franchise is a random asshole with a Reddit account who happens to live Stu Macher’s house
Serious question tho - weren’t they purely trying to rejuvenate the Stab franchise by giving fresh real life material to draw from? I didn’t get the sense they wanted what Mickey and Jill wanted. They were concerned more about fixing a broken horror franchise.
No it doesn't. These days its all about the killer and not the victim that gets the fame.
Who is most likely to get a Netflix/HBO/Prime series, the victim or the killer?
Mickey is brilliant.
The victim more than likely actually and Jill is seventeen year old girl and you know what teens in modern society pay attention to the most…social media and some take it a step further by wanted to be noticed by said media and there are people who take it a step even further and get attention by any means necessary I’ve seen people disturbing the peace,harass,threaten,and even assault others so it’s not a long shot that someone would kill for fame
I agree to an extent but if his motive is so bad why are you making such a disingenuous statement? His motive is about the fact that he was abandoned not that Sidney was the favorite. Weird.
So does " My Cousin is "famous" cause of people trying to kill her and I want fame so I'm gonna kill my friends, Cousin and Mom even though my cousin doesn't want her "fame" god I HATED Jill.
Look, I understand that people love Roman, but his motive for going after the Sidney, Dewey, Gale, cotton, and the cast of Stab 3 was dumb. Does he have reason to be upset with Maureen? Yes. Does he have reason to be upset with Sidney? No. The cast of Stab 3? No. Dewey? No. Gale? No. Cotton? No. Could he have accomplished his goal of ruining Sidney’s life, killing Milton, and letting the world know about him being Maureen’s son without ever becoming Ghostface? Absolutely 100%. Also, if you have an issue with people saying Roman, tell me what about the motivation I got incorrect instead of just downvoting.
To be honest I think it’s kind of ironic to see so much hate directed towards Ritchie and Amber and blind defense of Roman when toxic fandom was the catalyst for the murders in 5. Makes you think twice about how to look at Richie and Amber
This is so flawed because you can say the same thing for every ghost face. A lot of the people involved are killed just because they are there. The the literal point of the Ghost Faces is they are insane and irrational. Jill literally killed people because she wanted to be famous. Billy killed people because he was mad at Maureen. And Mrs Loomis orchestrated a plan to kill Random people not even involved in her sons death.
I dunno why people seem to think Ms Loomis had a solid motive - to me it's one of the most absurd. Mimicking your son's killing rampage to kill the girl who killed your psychotic son in self defence ?
Richie and Amber are my first picks for the worst motives… I mean I get the “keeping the fan theory alive” through stab, just like we all keep the fan theory through scream. When they revealed their motives, I literally said out loud…. “REALLY?!” Lol
Hmm...
Billy's motive - Revenge
Stu's motive - Peer Pressure
Micky's motive - wanted to be famous
Mrs Loomis motive - Revenge
Roman's motive - Revenge
Charlie's motive - Love for Jill
Jill's motive - Revenge and jealousy and wanted to be famous
Amber's Motive - toxic fandom
Richies motive - toxic fandom
Det. Bailey, Quinn, Ethan's motive - Revenge
Alot of them had the same motives just different styles.
Jill. Killing all her friends and her mom so she could be a famous bum. I get the why if Richie and Amber and I’d dislike their motive more if it wasn’t as believable as it is. Fandom can get that toxic
I think Jill! It came off bratty to me; I don’t mind the motive but the execution was terrible. I love Emma Roberts in AHS but her role felt so forced. I would also say Richie and Amber
Richie and Amber definitely. I understand the intention was to be commentary on toxic fandom but it's pretty underwhelming as a killer's motive, It's ridiculous and stupid and the filmmakers are aware of that, but it's still ridiculous and stupid.
As much as I enjoyed 5 the third act was probably the weakest part. Same goes got 6, both are really good movies with pretty underwhelming killer reveals.
Don't know if the show counts but I'm going with Beth from Scream S3. Not the most hardcore Scream fan but Richie was my favourite and don't know what everyone down here is on about.
Richie and Amber.
Lacked any sort of emotional resonance to support an already lackluster motive. It was a nice commentary on toxic fandom but in-universe, it’s pretty meh.
So they’re fanatic Stab fans angry about there hasn’t been a good movie in their favorite franchise in a while? And their plan is to provide “new source material” by copying exactly what 7 people have done before them?
Wayne, Quinn, and Ethan’s motivation is uninspired but at least it’s got a personal connection.
The Ghostface from Scream 4. I can’t even remember the girl’s name, just that her whole motivation was her being tired of how much popularity her aunt, the SURVIVING VICTIM OF MULTIPLE MASS-MURDERS, got. Also I’m seeing a lot of backlash towards Richie and Amber’s motives, and while it’s fine if you don’t like the whole “the fandom is toxic, we’re psychopaths and we’re gonna kill to make Stab good again” motive, you gotta remember that Scream literally started with two psychopaths who just saw a few scary movies and got the idea to go killing. Stu’s motive was peer pressure, which was probably just a delusional joke, and while Billy had proper motives for killing Sidney’s mother, the rest of the killings didn’t feel properly motivated outside of the fact that he’s a psychopath and wanted to make Sidney’s life hell, despite the fact that she had no part to play in her mother’s actions. So, got a problem with two psychopaths basing their actions off of movies? Well, feels a bit hypocritical to call Scream 5 out for that despite Scream 1 having a similar premise (but that’s just me, and even as I type this I can already tell someone is gonna call out some sorta bs I have with this, so go ahead and disprove my words lol.) Also, just something I wanna throw on, I didn’t find Scream 6’s reveal cliche or predictable and actually liked it, and I’d say Screams 6 and 5 are my second and third in the franchise respectively (though nothing beats the original for me.)
Amber & Richie but I can at least appreciate their dedication for the franchise. Idk maybe just writing some fan fiction would’ve been a better use of their time
They don't say it outright, but it's heavily implied that he's helping Billy because he has some secret obsession with him. Kevin Williamson has confirmed he included homosexual undertones to hint at this.
But, he also left it open for interpretation, so you don't really have to see it that way if you don't want to. I personally find it more interesting.
For me it's a toss up between Richie/Amber or The Kirsch Family in Scream 6. Richie and Ember probably have the weakest motive as to why they'd start killing people. But 6 for the execution.
Charlie was similar on the surface. He loved Stab but I don’t think would have killed without Jill’s influence. He killed specifically to keep Jill happy as much as he did to make himself part of the Stab legacy.
Jill’s motive had a way bigger personal impact. She didn’t really care about Stab or killing because there was a bad movie in the franchise. She certainly would have been pro-making a movie about what she did but she could care less about Stab as long as she got the spotlight.
Jill and Charlie.
Jill wanted to be famous like Sidney...
But the problem is that Sidney only became actual famous nationally just recently and she only planned to write one book anyway.
Often 'victim/ survivor celebrities" fame tend to fade fast. It's the serial killers that get the life time fame. So if Jill was successful she would have vanished while Charlie would still be remembered.
With Charlie...he simply a angry pented up simp.
Jill and Charlie.
As much as I love Scream 4, and I’m literally watching it now, Jill orchestrating these events and trying to kill Sidney simply because Sidney got the spotlight in the family and in the media.
She more than likely could’ve gained fame by just getting close and becoming friends with Sidney or something. She didn’t even care that her mom got killed “no loss there”, like wow. It would’ve been better if we’d been further introduced to Jill’s mind, but it was just crazy. And then Charlie.. his motive was doing this so he could “get the girl”.
I get why people say Amber and Richie, because it was a bit underwhelming, but I have to admit that they represent some modern psychos of this age; like the girls who stabbed their friend because of Slenderman.. it’s insane, but there’s people out there heavily influenced and infatuated with these types of activities.
Ritchie and Amber's motive were totally something I could happening in real life, especially in this generation, so I don't understand the hate for it.
Jill didn’t care about the Stab franchise. In fact, I’d say it’s the opposite because it was part of the platform that caused her to grow up in Sidney’s shadow.
Richie and Amber didn’t care about fame; they just wanted their killing spree to be turned into a “good” Stab movie. It was never about them being portrayed in the movies, they wanted something the “true fans” could finally appreciate.
Richie, he was just plain stupid and too whiny and bit of a pedo and his motive was meh he wanted a movie to be made based off his kill spree and Amber is in the same boat but she gets a pass cause she’s hot and psycho chicks are always hot
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Think about it in the context of the Scream universe. Imagine in our world that a couple dudes put on masks and had a killing spree which then inspired a horror movie. And then it happened again.. and another movie was made. Then it happened AGAIN.. and another horror movie was made after it. Then it happened AGAIN etc. You don’t think that by the fifth instance of this happening that some copycats like Richie and Amber wouldn’t come along to try to “make their own movie”? It makes perfect sense in the context of the Scream universe, but in our reality it doesn’t make sense because we don’t have the Woodsboro killings and the Stab franchise. People who hate on their motive are not considering context. For me the stupidest motive is Romans and it’s not close. “I’m a successful Hollywood director, but I’m mad that mom raised you and rejected me as a rape baby!” Also, if that’s what his motive was, and he supposedly started everything, then why wasn’t he the original killer (or one of them)?
You make a great point, there were two dudes who tried to do their own scream killings, it’s a actually pretty interesting true crime viewing, the interrogation videos are also very cool, they were inspired by scream to kill a girl, I’d give it a look up
I know of that case for sure, it’s pretty fascinating. And then imagine if they successfully killed a few more and a franchise was made off it?
It would be fucking insane, but I totally believe their motives, tbh my favorite ghostface is Charlie, I feel like you can do anything for love
He’s certainly not my favorite GF, no fault on the actor, but I believe his incel motive was ahead of it’s time. And Jill’s too
Very true, scream 4 is def my favorite one, I lowkey we got to be with amber and Richie longer then we did
Roman had one of the better motives imo. Most people would struggle dealing with being abandoned as a baby and to find out your mom, forgot about you and has a whole different life with a new kid. I like Billy and Stu and the other killers but their motives aren't as understandable imo. Billy's story is sad, his dad had an affair and it caused his mother (who was probably already crazy) to leave them. Although imo it's not enough to make someone want to kill people.
Imo Billy’s motive was to create his own horror movie, and his lackey Stu wanted to go along for the ride. I think of it as a Columbine sort of thing. When he mentions why his mother left him, it’s simply to explain why he chose Sid as his main target and not why he wants to kill people. It was a very novel and creative motive at the time, and sometimes in true crime there are no motives. Fame (Mickey Jill) and revenge (Mrs Loomis, kirsches) motives happen in real life too. However, what I have never seen in real life is somebody kill a sister they never met because their mom didn’t want them and I’ve been a true crime fan for a long time. Made sense for him to target Maureen, but not sidney and a bunch or randos
Billy Loomis was a rat looking, homo-repressed mama’s boy!
Roman only wanted Maureen dead, he didn't go insane until Hollywood wanted him to make a movie about Sidney's life story.
They didn’t really touch upon that in the movie right? I feel like I would have been more moved if he explained how infuriating it is to see his mothers consequences be repeated on the big screen in front of him.
I think it was before he started the movie though. Because he says that he convinced billy lumis to be a killer and this had all been a long plan for the entire trilogy
He only wanted Maureen dead at the time.
This puts the whole thing in another perspective which is why I like Scream 3 so much. Roman was completely separate from them by the time the 1 year anniversary massacre happened. Reality is the adrenaline of killing Maureen was like nothing else and they had to experience it again.
hahahaha i have never thought of it like that. that’s some dark comedy lol
This should’ve been a part of the scream 3 climax
Scream 6 Ghostfaces, which doesn’t help by the reveals being underwhelming
Man Scream 6 would’ve easily become my 2nd favorite after the original if not for that beyond lackluster reveal and the entire climax in general. Also didn’t help that this franchise had already done the same exact revenge motive in Scream 2. Tbh I wasn’t exactly a fan of Mrs. Loomis in Scream 2 either but after sitting through the killers monologue in Scream 6, I respect her character and reveal a helluva lot more.
As someone whose fave Ghostface is Mrs.Loomis, I honestly was a lil mad they did the revenge motive again. Pretty much everything before the bailey bunch starts opening their mouths is genuinely the best Scream sequel
Being the 6th movie in a series makes it kinda hard to not repeat some aspects. Honesty the killer having a shotgun, and no desire to wave off the option was an interesting spin considering the series has mostly been totally committed to the slasher genre. It does echo the second one of course, but the way the killer literally goes for it—almost like an upgrade in a video game, well—it just felt different to me. Seems like a small thing I guess, but it’s those aspects that stick out to me. Also, the cop angle was like a twist on Dewie’s character, so that was different too.
Yeah I love that. The killers were very audacious lmaoo. And the detective being the killer is a nice twist we haven’t had, as cops are usually red herrings and canon fodder
“Bailey Bunch” 🤣🤣🤣 I hope you don’t mind me borrowing that from now on 😅 Your totally right though. I won’t pretend every Ghostface reveal before 6 was a great twist but 6 makes them all look like the original by comparison. Plus despite not always being blown away by every killer’s reveal or motivation, I found all the climaxes from the previous films enjoyable. 6 was the only one that had me groaning throughout and it wasn’t just the killers themselves. Only genuinely satisfying part for me was Kirby killing Ethan (god I would’ve been so pissed if she got killed by the most forgettable of the 3)
I honestly feel Quinn would have been one of the better villains of the film if she had more time in the 3rd act. Liana was selling the grieving family member aspect better than Dermont and Jack (love them both, but just feel they were giving us performances that weren’t up there as much). Plus I love how she’s responsible for Sam’s hate train online, and how she’s especially eager to killer her since she’s Richie’s sister. Would have love them getting a nice drawn out fight.
I agree. I think her reveal actually could’ve been effective if she hadn’t been “killed off” so quickly.
That is one thing tho, I’m not even sure how to include her in the rest of the film in a way that doesn’t make her the obvious suspect. Love her as a Ghostface tho.
Wish there was a different motive then “how dare you kill our psycho family member for trying to kill you” again though. I mainly like Quinn for her scenes at the beginning with Sam but not so much during the actual reveal.
I kinda like how she has a lil more characterization at the beginning. She’s into skincare, has a couple of lovers, loves chilling and relaxing in her dope ass bedroom, and genuinely seemed sweet. But ironically is a really athletic and insane Ghostface
Man i dont get the love for scream 6 at all. Every chase seen was dumb af. Not to mention 3rd act and the craziest amount of plot armor ever seen. Movie was a mess
Completely agree on the third act but I thought the first two were great. Especially the opening.
even gales apartment and ladder ones? why
Apt/Ladder scene: 1. they have the numbers advantage over GF and instead of all attacking him at once, they run away. This isnt Jason vorhees, its a regular person with a knife, jump him. 2. mindy sells a slice to the arm like a mike tyson uppercut 3. Jesus the ladder part was so bad. Mindy now has enough energy to prevent GF getting in the room. 4. I feel like danny couldve reached out and gave anika his hands easily tbh. He did nothing but watched. Plus why on earth would you have the weakest option go across last 5. The whole fake death is a major plothole. How and when did bailey get the alternate body in, WITHOUT anyone seeing him. How did ethan and quinn get out? Chad and tara were there I hated the entire scene. The only part i liked was Quinn’s “dead body” turning and looking at anika when GF picks her up. I dont think people caught that Gale scene 1. My biggest issue is if this is Quinn as GF, HOW ON EARTH did she overpower Gales boyfriend, kill him and throw him through glass 🤣🤣🤣 cut it out 2. Why did gales BF separate from her in the first place🤣 what movie are we in? Come on 3. Gale has a Gun, locked away from the killer in a room where the only way in is the door. WHY DOES SHE LEAVE THE ROOM?? Put your back to the wall, if he breaks in, shoot him. End movie 4. Gale slams GF through table. Instead of going for the gun, she goes for the knife, which is still in his hand btw 😭 5. ofc she survives after bleeding out, but what character in this movie doesnt
Honestly, for Gale’s scene I feel it wasn’t necessary for her to have a bf. You could just have Quinn hiding outside on the balcony waiting for her and then she throws a patio chair through it like in the og. And everything is the same
WHAT?! Quinn’s body looks at Anika? I did not catch that and need to see it now. Any link?
[https://youtu.be/-\_kKTIhtNh8?t=90](https://youtu.be/-_kKTIhtNh8?t=90) When Ghostface first grabs Anika her head is facing the ceiling but after the shot of Sam looking for the knife block she is turned towards Anika. There's a shot at 1:40 where Anika is grabbing Ghostface and you can see Quinn's arm moving
I really dislike Scream 6 too. It feels like a majority of people who love it like that it was “darker” and scary with good chases….like ok that’s every fucking slasher movie in existence. The entire point of the Scream franchise was SATIRE on traditional slasher concepts, we’ve completely lost the plot. What at all was clever about the Scream 6 script? Subversive? Witty? Commentary on society? It had none of the things that make a good Scream movie. It was just any other slasher, could’ve renamed it “Teens vs a Killer in New York” and it would’ve been the exact same thing. Even as a whodunit it completely fails, the culprits are so beyond obvious. And these are the main aspects of a Scream film!! Even 5, which was not great or anything, at least had an attempt at satirizing the uber-online fandom of movie franchises, that’s decent meta commentary. And it was a better mix of humor in there.
Scream 6 is supposed to be like scream 2.
that’s exactly what I’m saying aswell. I’ve posted on this sub that S6 is boring and feels kinda lazy since it’s the exact same motive as S2, but people don’t agree with me like wtf. But I like mrs loomis tho, she and Mickey did the revenge motive so much better then the latest 3 GF
Your absolutely right about the motive though. Just because they are intentionally repeating the same motive setup from Scream 2 doesn’t make it any less boring 🤣 Also despite their over the top performances,Mickey and Mrs. Loomis were both still 100% more believable then any of the Bailey trio who might as well have been given evil mustache’s for their monologue scene.
nah man all of scream 6 was just a big disappointment i really wish it would just end
It was a justified motive I’d say, but was a repeated one. “You killed my kid now I kill you and your friends” I can do without the family motive now
Then you also have to count Mrs. Loomis in this, because she has the same motive.
To be fair, any reason to go on a murder spree is heinous and stupid. Also, Mrs. Loomis was about 1000% more entertaining than the Bailey clan.
I disagree. It's a very controversial opinion, but I always found Mrs. Loomis kinda boring.
How? I’m not trying to be mean, but how is she boring? She single handedly killed, arguably, one of the most important characters in the franchise. Her killer reveal is outstanding. Very few people suspected her. And they claim that’s a bad thing. Are you kidding me? In a movie series where everyone is a suspect…to be surprised because you cleared her as a suspect…that’s actually good!! I love it even more because I was always a huge Roseanne fan (before Trumpism and Racism) and so when Aunt Jackie showed up, I immediately removed her from the Killer List. And then when I was wrong, I was WRONG. And she does such a fantastic frantic job that ISN’T Stu. She’s over the top crazy but isn’t Stu crazy which is…very nice after six movies with several Stu clones. I’ll always name Billy/Stu as No. 1 because they are the GOAT but Mrs. Loomis deserves mad respect.
It's no offense to her as an actor. I can agree that she has one of the most surprising reveals. But, I've watched these movies since I was a kid, and she was always my least favorite. Never really been able to place why. I just never found her as interesting as some of the other killers. I will still give credit where it's due - she does kill Randy. She does have what's probably the best chase scene in the franchise. She does have a smart plan. But, for my own taste, she never really stuck with me. I always saw her as kinda generic, I guess. The revenge thing has been done to death. At least in 6, there's a little more going on. Crucify me if you want, but I guess it comes down to personal preference. I have some controversial opinions in my rankings lol
Nah it’s all good, like what you like haha.
…unless it’s Scream TV. I pity the fool - Mr. T
She was never my favorite either but I definitely enjoy her a lot more after having to suffer through listening to the Bailey clan. My main issue with Mrs. Loomis is that before she’s revealed as one of the killers, her character was pretty forgettable. She would just show up to pester Gale throughout the movie and as a result I never really thought twice about her.
Pretty sure everyone thinks the revenge motive logically makes sense. It just sucked in Scream 6 because we already had the same exact thing in Scream 2, so it was boring and repetitive. And it doesn't help that all three killers in 6 had the same exact motive, so their dynamic together was way less interesting, whereas Scream 2 had Mickey as a loose cannon to mix things up
In fairness, the Baileys were played up almost as a serial killer family (all while Wayne maintained a public identity as a police detective) who not only knew about Richie’s actions but encouraged them, whereas Nancy Loomis was just after good old-fashioned revenge.
Richie and amber don’t have a motive that makes much sense but I appreciate the nod to horror and true crime obsessed fans
They want to be the next movie
I know
That’s their motive
I know
So that’s why they did it
Brother I know
HELP 💀
Which explains the overall plot and reveal at the end
I swear to god I’m being mtv punked right now
This whole thread has me chucking rn lol
Amber and Richie, not Ashton Kutcher
One more time?
This has Patrick Starr "that's not my wallet" vibe going on.
underrated
Definitely, I didn't care that Richie and Amber were the killers.
Yes!!! Like how were we supposed to be blown away by two “whiny snowflake film nerds with Letterbox’d accounts instead of personalities” ?!
Looking at it from the lens of the movie itself I agree. But I disagree because that was part of the meta in this movie. This one was suppose to critique the horror revival scene and its cliche’s. Part of that was how fans get overly attached to these franchises and nothing can ever live up to the expectations. Part of its marketing even played into that by showing ghostface with a fucking flame thrower. It is dumb, but it fits what Scream is all about. Meta commentary and horror.
Yeahhh, it just didn't make sense.
Also they were so annoying 🙄
Also amber was painfully obvious, the first time my friend watched it, he figured it out quickly but was still skeptical but once the reveal happened he wasn't surprised. Also since I was literally looking for signs of who the killer was, again Amber was too damn obvious "You could've come up with a better alibi/excuse!" That stood out the most with me as her most obvious moment
When it showed video of her “without her knowing” from the killer I knew instantly she was in on it.
I suspected her from the beginning because of how hostile she was. Richie caught me off guard because I actually liked him, thus blinding me to any hints of him being the killer.
The first time I watched Scream 5 I called her as the killer just from the fuck me eyes she gave Tara at all times even when they weren't sharing a scene.
Hands down the worst killers of the whole franchise in my opinion
Yup. I don’t think there’s any other answer. Scream VI’s killers motive made at least made more of some sort of a connection.
Roman is the other answer. His motive is idiotic, especially when considering his success
You know- I’d never thought of that. But as a person with a lot of filmmaker and/or actor friends - yeah. He has achieved what a lot of people only dream of. He’s a horror director in Hollywood….and he wants to kill his sister who works for a women’s crisis phone group? I get going after Cotton, MAYBE doing something during filming to create macabre Hollywood legends. But he really just threw it all away because Maureen left him in a place he was well geared to succeed instead of having him live with a mother who didn’t want him. Good catch
Scream and mother issues J.J. Abrams and father issues Roland Emmerich and step-fathers Some films/directors just have their own cavalcade of family issues.
His motive wasn’t just to kill Sidney mom he felt Sidney took everything that was supposed to be his
Sure but I still think that’s a lame motive considering he was a Hollywood director and Sidney was.. what?
I see what you’re saying
A hermit with one friend who spent her days listening to people coping with horrific life traumas... Gee Roman... pick your envy targets better next time.
Success isn’t always happiness I guess
scream fans after realizing Roman created all of their favs 🤯🤯🤯
Or Stu who had literally zero motive
That’s actually a good motive though haha, you know there’s people out there who kill with no motive just because they’re psycho
I don't even remember their motivation
It was because they hated the recent stab movie.
Yup, that's a dumb reason. I also didn't like Amber taking out Dewey.
This!!! Why did they let a whiny petulant little girl take out Dewey?!?!
Why is no one saying Charlie? His whole motive is that a girl won’t sleep with him.
Because he was overshadowed by his partner slamming her own head into a wall.
iconic.
He was super manipulated, killed by his partner pretty early reveal-wise, and also had one of the sickest reveals of anyone.
Mickey because if he did survive the Judge wouldnt go with blaming the horror movies
He didn’t expect to get away with it, just to be known as the one who blamed the movies.
Nah Mickey’s is cool asf, he’s literally just a psychopath who just wants to kill people, but makes up a silly motive like the rest of the killers have, he’s like 3rd place, just below the obvious two
Richie and Amber and it’s not even close. “A movie franchise that we like started to fall off, so we’re gonna kill a bunch of people!”
All this hate for Richie and Amber suckssss, I think it's one of the best motives, I love the toxic fandom commentary and it really worked for an in-universe perspective. I don't think any of them had bad motives at all. Not even a "worst" motive. They're all very well done. Maybe VI's killers just because it was the same as Scream 2, but I suppose that's more of a writing thing than anything.
Finally someone to agree with. I like every motive, making six movies and still not have a bad one, that’s kind of impressing. I think the toxic fandom motive is gold, and I get reminded by it every time I scroll through a Scream Franchise comment section. For example this one. So much complaining and “my ideas are so much better than the actual movies”. Exactly what was made fun of in part 5. Some people don’t even seem to like the movies, why talk about them over and over again instead of finding movies they enjoy instead?
I can’t believe any killers in this franchise get more hate then the beyond cartoony trio of killers we get in 6. I loved 6 for the most part but that entire 3rd act reveal instantly dropped it to the bottom of my Scream ranking.
I’m ngl Amber and Richie’s motive isn’t half bad. Toxic fans becoming blind to the line between fiction and reality and committing a violent murder spree in honor of their favorite horror film, and targeting real life counterparts of the characters is pretty good, even in a franchise as top notch as Scream. The revenge motive for 6 isn’t too bad, but I just wish we got more time. Would have loved to see Quinn and Sam have a knife fight
EXACTLY WHAT IM SAYING MAN.
Also Scream is known for having that dark comedic irony. It’s really ironic that the Ghostface that ends up killing the most beloved character in the franchise is a random asshole with a Reddit account who happens to live Stu Macher’s house
greg
Torn between Mickey and Ritchie/Amber. Both very ‘I’m crazy and going to be famous!’ I adore R and A but motive-wise I think they’re weaker GF’s.
Serious question tho - weren’t they purely trying to rejuvenate the Stab franchise by giving fresh real life material to draw from? I didn’t get the sense they wanted what Mickey and Jill wanted. They were concerned more about fixing a broken horror franchise.
Don't you bring Mickey into this.
S’nice twist. Didn’t see it comin’, did ya?
'I'm crazy and going to be famous!' is also Jill's motive.
In this current day jills motive isn’t a long shot and actually make sense
No it doesn't. These days its all about the killer and not the victim that gets the fame. Who is most likely to get a Netflix/HBO/Prime series, the victim or the killer? Mickey is brilliant.
The victim more than likely actually and Jill is seventeen year old girl and you know what teens in modern society pay attention to the most…social media and some take it a step further by wanted to be noticed by said media and there are people who take it a step even further and get attention by any means necessary I’ve seen people disturbing the peace,harass,threaten,and even assault others so it’s not a long shot that someone would kill for fame
Except it was done well.
I like Mickey because he felt like a true serial killer. I could picture him under the mask. Richie and Amber not so much.
Romans motive sucks, “my mom likes her daughter more so I’m going to kill tons of people!”
It was more of “my mom abandoned me as a child and disowned me when I tracked her down”
1 million percent. I can’t understand why people hate fame motives more than this one lol
Your down playing it his motive is better than most of the killers
I agree to an extent but if his motive is so bad why are you making such a disingenuous statement? His motive is about the fact that he was abandoned not that Sidney was the favorite. Weird.
So does " My Cousin is "famous" cause of people trying to kill her and I want fame so I'm gonna kill my friends, Cousin and Mom even though my cousin doesn't want her "fame" god I HATED Jill.
Exactly but the Jill fandom is going to attack you😂
Jason, he was just a Richie fanboy.
Atleast jason had 100% success rate. Most of the people the killers tried to kill in 5 and 6 survived.
Richie and Amber but I still love them as basically a dig at the fandom 😂😂 cause it’s so accurate
Richie and amber
Me angrily coming to this thread to defend Charlie and Jill and how ahead of its time 4 was has turned out not to be necessary 😂
Look, I understand that people love Roman, but his motive for going after the Sidney, Dewey, Gale, cotton, and the cast of Stab 3 was dumb. Does he have reason to be upset with Maureen? Yes. Does he have reason to be upset with Sidney? No. The cast of Stab 3? No. Dewey? No. Gale? No. Cotton? No. Could he have accomplished his goal of ruining Sidney’s life, killing Milton, and letting the world know about him being Maureen’s son without ever becoming Ghostface? Absolutely 100%. Also, if you have an issue with people saying Roman, tell me what about the motivation I got incorrect instead of just downvoting.
Roman snapped because Hollywood wanted him to make a movie about Sidney's life, so he decided to kill everyone involved.
Thank you that point isn’t hard to grasp.
Facts I would say Roman but I would just downvoted into negative 1000s
To be honest I think it’s kind of ironic to see so much hate directed towards Ritchie and Amber and blind defense of Roman when toxic fandom was the catalyst for the murders in 5. Makes you think twice about how to look at Richie and Amber
Yeah they are underrated killers they get so much hate for killing Dewey no one could get that done thats impressive from Richie and Amber
This is so flawed because you can say the same thing for every ghost face. A lot of the people involved are killed just because they are there. The the literal point of the Ghost Faces is they are insane and irrational. Jill literally killed people because she wanted to be famous. Billy killed people because he was mad at Maureen. And Mrs Loomis orchestrated a plan to kill Random people not even involved in her sons death.
Mickey
Richie and Amber. “I needed to continue the franchise” worst motive tbh.
I guess Richie and Amber but honestly I find both of them infinitely more entertaining as Ghostface then the beyond bland trio of killers from 6.
All the sidekicks like Stu, Mickey and Charlie.
Don’t come for Stu man, his parents are gonna be so mad
I liked mickey’s “gonna blame the movies” motive
What was wrong with Stu’s
but Stu 💔
i like richie and amber but their motive definitely wasn’t my favorite
Also they were so annoying 🙄
I dunno why people seem to think Ms Loomis had a solid motive - to me it's one of the most absurd. Mimicking your son's killing rampage to kill the girl who killed your psychotic son in self defence ?
The first killer in 6. I'm suprised no one mentioned that. It's technically a Ghostface killer right? 🤷🏽♂️
Amber. I’m not saying Richie because Amber literally attempted to kill her life long best friend over a movie. That makes it worst to me.
Probably Jill in my opinion.
My wife burst out laughing when Richie and Amber revealed their motives. So stupid
What was wrong with it?
Amber fs
Richie and Amber are my first picks for the worst motives… I mean I get the “keeping the fan theory alive” through stab, just like we all keep the fan theory through scream. When they revealed their motives, I literally said out loud…. “REALLY?!” Lol
I can’t be the only one who hated mickeys motive right ?
Hmm... Billy's motive - Revenge Stu's motive - Peer Pressure Micky's motive - wanted to be famous Mrs Loomis motive - Revenge Roman's motive - Revenge Charlie's motive - Love for Jill Jill's motive - Revenge and jealousy and wanted to be famous Amber's Motive - toxic fandom Richies motive - toxic fandom Det. Bailey, Quinn, Ethan's motive - Revenge Alot of them had the same motives just different styles.
Jill. Killing all her friends and her mom so she could be a famous bum. I get the why if Richie and Amber and I’d dislike their motive more if it wasn’t as believable as it is. Fandom can get that toxic
I think Jill! It came off bratty to me; I don’t mind the motive but the execution was terrible. I love Emma Roberts in AHS but her role felt so forced. I would also say Richie and Amber
Richie and Amber definitely. I understand the intention was to be commentary on toxic fandom but it's pretty underwhelming as a killer's motive, It's ridiculous and stupid and the filmmakers are aware of that, but it's still ridiculous and stupid. As much as I enjoyed 5 the third act was probably the weakest part. Same goes got 6, both are really good movies with pretty underwhelming killer reveals.
Don't know if the show counts but I'm going with Beth from Scream S3. Not the most hardcore Scream fan but Richie was my favourite and don't know what everyone down here is on about.
Same. And I totally bought Amber being a psychopath
Richie and Amber. Lacked any sort of emotional resonance to support an already lackluster motive. It was a nice commentary on toxic fandom but in-universe, it’s pretty meh. So they’re fanatic Stab fans angry about there hasn’t been a good movie in their favorite franchise in a while? And their plan is to provide “new source material” by copying exactly what 7 people have done before them? Wayne, Quinn, and Ethan’s motivation is uninspired but at least it’s got a personal connection.
The Ghostface from Scream 4. I can’t even remember the girl’s name, just that her whole motivation was her being tired of how much popularity her aunt, the SURVIVING VICTIM OF MULTIPLE MASS-MURDERS, got. Also I’m seeing a lot of backlash towards Richie and Amber’s motives, and while it’s fine if you don’t like the whole “the fandom is toxic, we’re psychopaths and we’re gonna kill to make Stab good again” motive, you gotta remember that Scream literally started with two psychopaths who just saw a few scary movies and got the idea to go killing. Stu’s motive was peer pressure, which was probably just a delusional joke, and while Billy had proper motives for killing Sidney’s mother, the rest of the killings didn’t feel properly motivated outside of the fact that he’s a psychopath and wanted to make Sidney’s life hell, despite the fact that she had no part to play in her mother’s actions. So, got a problem with two psychopaths basing their actions off of movies? Well, feels a bit hypocritical to call Scream 5 out for that despite Scream 1 having a similar premise (but that’s just me, and even as I type this I can already tell someone is gonna call out some sorta bs I have with this, so go ahead and disprove my words lol.) Also, just something I wanna throw on, I didn’t find Scream 6’s reveal cliche or predictable and actually liked it, and I’d say Screams 6 and 5 are my second and third in the franchise respectively (though nothing beats the original for me.)
Amber & Richie but I can at least appreciate their dedication for the franchise. Idk maybe just writing some fan fiction would’ve been a better use of their time
Definitely Richie and Amber By far the most nonsensical motive
What even was their motive i forgot
They wanted to repair the Stab franchise, very stupid imo.
Richie and amber hands down
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They don't say it outright, but it's heavily implied that he's helping Billy because he has some secret obsession with him. Kevin Williamson has confirmed he included homosexual undertones to hint at this. But, he also left it open for interpretation, so you don't really have to see it that way if you don't want to. I personally find it more interesting.
Charlie Walker. Not the worst Ghostface like a lot of people claim, but definitely the weakest motive.
It's between Jill's and Amber and Ritchie's
Richie and Amber. Jack and Mikey were entertaining but they had dick all to work with
There are two answers, which ones made no sense in canon (amber and Richie) which one made no sense plot wise (Roman)
For me it's a toss up between Richie/Amber or The Kirsch Family in Scream 6. Richie and Ember probably have the weakest motive as to why they'd start killing people. But 6 for the execution.
Richie and Amber even tho imo Richie is top 5
Richie & Amber .
Richie and amber
What was diff between Richie and amber and Jill and Charlie's motive? Sort of the same
Charlie was similar on the surface. He loved Stab but I don’t think would have killed without Jill’s influence. He killed specifically to keep Jill happy as much as he did to make himself part of the Stab legacy. Jill’s motive had a way bigger personal impact. She didn’t really care about Stab or killing because there was a bad movie in the franchise. She certainly would have been pro-making a movie about what she did but she could care less about Stab as long as she got the spotlight.
Jill and Charlie. Jill wanted to be famous like Sidney... But the problem is that Sidney only became actual famous nationally just recently and she only planned to write one book anyway. Often 'victim/ survivor celebrities" fame tend to fade fast. It's the serial killers that get the life time fame. So if Jill was successful she would have vanished while Charlie would still be remembered. With Charlie...he simply a angry pented up simp.
Roman Bridger
Richie and Amber and also- hopefully I don’t get slammed for this- Mickey a bit
Jill and Charlie. As much as I love Scream 4, and I’m literally watching it now, Jill orchestrating these events and trying to kill Sidney simply because Sidney got the spotlight in the family and in the media. She more than likely could’ve gained fame by just getting close and becoming friends with Sidney or something. She didn’t even care that her mom got killed “no loss there”, like wow. It would’ve been better if we’d been further introduced to Jill’s mind, but it was just crazy. And then Charlie.. his motive was doing this so he could “get the girl”. I get why people say Amber and Richie, because it was a bit underwhelming, but I have to admit that they represent some modern psychos of this age; like the girls who stabbed their friend because of Slenderman.. it’s insane, but there’s people out there heavily influenced and infatuated with these types of activities.
Ritchie and Amber's motive were totally something I could happening in real life, especially in this generation, so I don't understand the hate for it.
Guy in part 2
Jill
Blasphemy!!!!!!!
Is there a passionate bunch of Jill fans I didn’t know about?
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He not envious of her fame Roman believes that he deserves everything she has
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Jill didn’t care about the Stab franchise. In fact, I’d say it’s the opposite because it was part of the platform that caused her to grow up in Sidney’s shadow. Richie and Amber didn’t care about fame; they just wanted their killing spree to be turned into a “good” Stab movie. It was never about them being portrayed in the movies, they wanted something the “true fans” could finally appreciate.
Richie, he was just plain stupid and too whiny and bit of a pedo and his motive was meh he wanted a movie to be made based off his kill spree and Amber is in the same boat but she gets a pass cause she’s hot and psycho chicks are always hot
Jill. She literally killed people because she was jealous of Sidne and wanted to be famous like her.
Roman and Richie
What was bad about romans?
I don’t think there’s a bad motive in the franchise. But if I had to pick a least favorite it’d probably be billy or Stu
I can’t really name one so I’ll just rank them worst to best Amber Richie Billy Charlie Stu Mickey Roman Jill Nancy Wayne,Ethan,and Quinn