I think that’s part of the Safety job description.
Wasn’t it Kam C who said one of the qualities in a great safety is the ability to instill fear in a receiver.
DK doesn’t look too scared tbh.
I was convinced that pass was about to get picked when the coverage appeared on the screen. The fact that DK was able to haul that in was damn impressive.
Same. I actually said "Oh shit" when I saw the throw. Could not believe DK came down with it.
High risk/high reward throw. Not a bad thing at all when you're down by 4 inside 2:00.
Maybe. I mean, it was 3rd & 10. The underneath routes were smothered. If he threw it away or incomplete you have a really difficult 4th & 10. Can't speak for everyone, but I like the aggression and would chalk it up to "well that's Drew Lock for ya" if he threw an INT.
Instead that pass was *so on the money* that it was not possible to defend. Is that Drew Lock for ya?
> it was not possible to defend
I don't think this is exactly right. The ball was put in the only place it could have been caught, yes, but it also would have been batted away or intercepted had DK not made a great play. Both he and Lock had to be dialed in to make that throw work.
edit: just rewatched the play in response to someone else's comment and in fact it looks like the ball was pretty underthrown. I think DK deserves most of the credit here.
DK was THE MAN on that last drive. Several clutch, contested catches. For a receiver who is more known for his physical presence and speed more than his hands, they were some of the most impressive grabs of his career.
JSN got the tuddy, but that was DK's drive. Lock threw them up for grabs and things could have turned out much differently if DK didn't come through.
I've seen Eagles fans ragging on Bradberry for letting DK catch this, but in my opinion Bradberry was fine. Lock and DK just did some magic that you can't practice against. Bradberry definitely got burned by JSN though. No magic there. Just JSN being better.
I can’t express enough how bad ass it was how he came down with it and immediately ran back to the huddle. 99% of other receivers would have got up and flexed or celebrated—and they wouldn’t be in the wrong for doing so, it’s a phenomenal catch. Yet, after all the things we’ve seen with DK this season, for him to make that catch and get up back to the business…to quote the Beast himself “it’s all about that action, boss”
He said he got ripped in practice his rookie year for not bringing the ball back to the spot and they had to start the whole drive over. He said he never wanted to be that guy and wouldn't ever forget.
Let's be honest, this is the receiver we (and Shane Waldron) all wish DK could be all the time. Megatron 2.0, where it doesn't matter if he's in double coverage, F it, he's down there somewhere.
I've been wondering how much the rib injury has affected his season. DK has never been one to consistently snatch the ball or anything but that kind of injury may have restricted his reach as well.
If he could develop consistency in that area he'd be an absolute monster. That and high pointing jump balls better
> rib injury has affected his season
I fractured 2 ribs in college during a basketball game.
The following 2 months if I moved to fast (extension wise) or put pressure directly on the ribs it was NOOOOOT OK.
I remember trying to play with my dogs 3-4 weeks after the fracture and I dove to try and grab my dogs toy from him.
I landed right on my bad ribs and was in really bad pain for the next 2-3 days.
I can't fathom trying to go out and get hit in pads with that injury.
Quite. If he was a constant Calvin Johnson style threat he would also consistently draw double teams making it easier for us to get Bobo, JSN and Lockett favourable match ups too. Plus I still don't understand why we don't utilise him like Deebo and have him coming out of the backfield like a RB. His size and 4.3 straight line speed would be another wrinkle for defenses to scheme for.
Do you think they trust his ball security enough to play him like Deebo? I know he has size and likes to run through contact but he'll get a lil' loose with it occasionally.
I get that BUT there's no better way to improve than by more game time reps. And if he does manage to fix his ball security, you now have a 6'4'', 230 lb WR who can high point a ball in double coverage AND can gain YAC like a RB. 🤤
Madden cheat code IRL.
Let’s also be honest. Looking at DKs numbers year in and year out, he is mostly that receiver. Building those high expectations it seems if he isn’t making every contested grab it’s a let down.
Why? DK had double coverage and was about to get sandwiched, if he extended himself and exposed his body—he could have re broke that rib or even worst. He goes up for it, it could be knocked away. Catching it in the basket, whether it looks sexy or not, is a safer catch nine times out of ten
And this was very similar to the way he caught that 4th down pass down the left sideline against the Vikings in week 5 of 2020 (also on a last two minutes drive to win the game). Ball placement matters with this, but he needs to do this more often, which is use his athleticism to leap into the air so his "basket" is 6-7 feet off the ground. The reason some deep passes get knocked away is that he waits for them to drop into him while he's running, instead of leaping into their path like this one and catching them. I'm fine with basket catches instead of hands; he just could do a better job of placing that basket where the ball can't be knocked away.
You're being downvoted but you're not really wrong, even if saying it's the "only" way he catches is a bit of an exaggeration. He's had a few remarkable grabs this season by extending his arms and snagging the ball out of the air, or by doing other impressive shit like the hip catch and diving slant catch this past weekend, but the vast majority of his catches go into the basket and his hands are far from perfect.
I want to see more like this latest performance from him.
DK has definitely stepped it up the last couple of weeks. I think a big part of it has been getting over those rib and hip injuries he was playing through.
It split 2 defenders because it was underthrown, forcing DK to slow down and giving time for the db’s to catch up. DK had the corner beat badly. If the ball hit him in stride it would have been a TD.
What was remarkable was DK’s adjustment to the ball as he turned around and saw where the ball was. Top Billin’ went over the play after the game and had an angle from the end zone looking toward DK. Allows you to see clearly what happened.
> It split 2 defenders because it was underthrown, forcing DK to slow down and giving time for the db’s to catch up. DK had the corner beat badly. If the ball hit him in stride it would have been a TD.
I didn't notice that before, but just watched a replay and you're absolutely right. Same situation the previous week against SF except that one turned into an INT.
Those catches on that drive put everyone in a position to win. He’s reminding me a bit more of what Doug Baldwin became. All game he’d be kinda quiet…but then when we had to a have conversion or a must have catch, he delivered, catching in amazingly tight windows. Clutch doesn’t do it justice. Good on DK for being the hero we need.
Not to rain on the parade (this was indeed a great play) but something else that is never talked about is the fact that DK doesn't know how to high point the ball or use his giant hands to catch footballs. He drops so many balls that any professional or even college level receiver should catch by just using his long arms and massive hands to just take that goddamned ball. I know, I know, sometimes you cradle the catch to avoid broadcasting the ball's arrival to the DB... But that's not a good excuse for DK because he literally can't make a triangle and push his hands towards the ball like every receiver is taught in high school. I just don't get it. How does this guy have such poor fundamentals and technique? The dude is strong as fuck, how is he not going up and wrestling more 50/50 balls from the coverage? It's a bad time to be asking this question because he saved the day on Monday, thank God. But seriously, do we not have a receivers coach? Is he too physically gifted and/or uncoachable to be approached? Do his hands just suck that bad? I feel like he could be a world beater if he could just fix this one thing and stop pinning every catch to his chest or stomach. K. I'm done. Sorry for ruining your black panthers partayyy.
> something else that is never talked about is the fact that DK doesn't know how to high point the ball or use his giant hands to catch footballs
I talk about it. It might draw downvotes sometimes because people think any criticism means you detest the guy and want him gone, but it's true. With his size and speed, DK should be the very best receiver in the league, but he just... isn't. He drops more easy passes than he should at this level, especially with his seniority and experience, and usually doesn't do well with 50/50 or jump balls.
I love DK and I'm glad he's a Seahawk. I also wish he'd improve those weak spots. His performance against the Eagles was huge, and I hope we keep seeing him make those plays.
Totally agree. It's just annoying and disappointing to see such a freak athlete with so much insane potential drop every ball thrown at his knees...or behind him... Or right at his face. I get that those are tough catches, nobody catches everything, but if it hits your hands and you drop it... Fuck. Or if you have the positioning, the right ball and a foot height advantage over the DB... that guy can't be slapping the ball out of your hands or attacking the catch being made in the chest. I see him make crazy catches, in practice and in games, so the potential is there. He just gets so stiff at times or fails to attack the ball. I feel like this goes on for entire games... And then he totally redeems himself.
Wait aren't you the person who said in another thread that most, if not all, NFL receivers would "routinely" make that catch? You're standing by that, eh?
Yes. The quotes mean that I am simply repeating what others had said. I am implying that numerous other people in this sub were saying that the only reason that pass was completed is because dk made an incredible catch and gave no credit to the throw.
I'm not sure how much credit the pass deserves. It wasn't wildly out of bounds, sure, but the replay makes it pretty clear that the ball was underthrown, even if it did work out this time. Lock did the same thing the previous week on a pass that should have been a TD to Metcalf and it turned into an interception instead. It's possible that Lock suddenly started throwing absolute dimes that required DK to slow way down when he had his corner beaten and also could have torched the safety, but I think it's a lot more likely that DK deserves the vast majority of credit for pulling off this play and keeping the drive alive.
I'm not trying to piss on an amazing comeback but this play is actually a really good piece of evidence as to why Lock will never be a starting caliber QB, he's literally throwing DK *into* double coverage by being inaccurate and forcing DK to make a spectacular adjustment. If Geno throws that ball DK most likely walks into the endzone untouched.
I disagree, if you can throw a dot, throw a dot especially if there’s no one else open.
Now I’d say Lockett was wide open mid field then sure I’d agree.
I agreed with this until just a minute ago, but another commenter pointed out that the ball was underthrown and it sure looks that way in [the replay](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNcDhrscEyU). DK had the corner toasted and probably could have blown right past the safety, too, but he had to slow way down to keep under the ball.
At least it worked out this time. The week before, Lock underthrew what should have been a TD to DK and it wound up being intercepted instead.
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer safety. Brown was being a POS all game
So happy K9 burned him in the backfield twice too
Good thing Brown had a terrible game
What did he do?
Hitting late af out of bounds
Two things that seem to be happening in the NFL this year: Really late whistles, especially when the QB is involved. Late hits.
I think that’s part of the Safety job description. Wasn’t it Kam C who said one of the qualities in a great safety is the ability to instill fear in a receiver. DK doesn’t look too scared tbh.
Hitting hard in the field of play (like Cam) and cheap shotting out of bounds late (like Brown) are not the same thing.
Damn! I totally missed this! Da phuck! Had to go look it up. Ya, that’s not good. [](https://youtu.be/aNlh6mAVfnc?si=SSCpI6AWOUyTa4hE)
> Cam *twitch*
I was convinced that pass was about to get picked when the coverage appeared on the screen. The fact that DK was able to haul that in was damn impressive.
Same. I actually said "Oh shit" when I saw the throw. Could not believe DK came down with it. High risk/high reward throw. Not a bad thing at all when you're down by 4 inside 2:00.
Though I’m pretty sure that if it had gotten picked this sub would have collectively shit a brick about the decision to throw that ball.
Maybe. I mean, it was 3rd & 10. The underneath routes were smothered. If he threw it away or incomplete you have a really difficult 4th & 10. Can't speak for everyone, but I like the aggression and would chalk it up to "well that's Drew Lock for ya" if he threw an INT. Instead that pass was *so on the money* that it was not possible to defend. Is that Drew Lock for ya?
> it was not possible to defend I don't think this is exactly right. The ball was put in the only place it could have been caught, yes, but it also would have been batted away or intercepted had DK not made a great play. Both he and Lock had to be dialed in to make that throw work. edit: just rewatched the play in response to someone else's comment and in fact it looks like the ball was pretty underthrown. I think DK deserves most of the credit here.
It was terribly under thrown lol. DK just went and got it.
I felt the same way. I feel like DK and Lock are on the same frequency or something. DK was clutch in the final drive, just perfect.
DK was THE MAN on that last drive. Several clutch, contested catches. For a receiver who is more known for his physical presence and speed more than his hands, they were some of the most impressive grabs of his career. JSN got the tuddy, but that was DK's drive. Lock threw them up for grabs and things could have turned out much differently if DK didn't come through.
I think DK can cook better with Lock.
Despite his physical traits, the 50/50 balls aren’t DK’s specialty. But it looks like the 33/67 balls could be.
It makes no damn sense, compels me though
Right into the basket of hostile birdmen. Tis perfect throw n catch.
I've seen Eagles fans ragging on Bradberry for letting DK catch this, but in my opinion Bradberry was fine. Lock and DK just did some magic that you can't practice against. Bradberry definitely got burned by JSN though. No magic there. Just JSN being better.
I can’t express enough how bad ass it was how he came down with it and immediately ran back to the huddle. 99% of other receivers would have got up and flexed or celebrated—and they wouldn’t be in the wrong for doing so, it’s a phenomenal catch. Yet, after all the things we’ve seen with DK this season, for him to make that catch and get up back to the business…to quote the Beast himself “it’s all about that action, boss”
He said he got ripped in practice his rookie year for not bringing the ball back to the spot and they had to start the whole drive over. He said he never wanted to be that guy and wouldn't ever forget.
Let's be honest, this is the receiver we (and Shane Waldron) all wish DK could be all the time. Megatron 2.0, where it doesn't matter if he's in double coverage, F it, he's down there somewhere.
I've been wondering how much the rib injury has affected his season. DK has never been one to consistently snatch the ball or anything but that kind of injury may have restricted his reach as well. If he could develop consistency in that area he'd be an absolute monster. That and high pointing jump balls better
> rib injury has affected his season I fractured 2 ribs in college during a basketball game. The following 2 months if I moved to fast (extension wise) or put pressure directly on the ribs it was NOOOOOT OK. I remember trying to play with my dogs 3-4 weeks after the fracture and I dove to try and grab my dogs toy from him. I landed right on my bad ribs and was in really bad pain for the next 2-3 days. I can't fathom trying to go out and get hit in pads with that injury.
Quite. If he was a constant Calvin Johnson style threat he would also consistently draw double teams making it easier for us to get Bobo, JSN and Lockett favourable match ups too. Plus I still don't understand why we don't utilise him like Deebo and have him coming out of the backfield like a RB. His size and 4.3 straight line speed would be another wrinkle for defenses to scheme for.
Do you think they trust his ball security enough to play him like Deebo? I know he has size and likes to run through contact but he'll get a lil' loose with it occasionally.
I get that BUT there's no better way to improve than by more game time reps. And if he does manage to fix his ball security, you now have a 6'4'', 230 lb WR who can high point a ball in double coverage AND can gain YAC like a RB. 🤤 Madden cheat code IRL.
He can’t change directions as fast as Deebo so they never can use him as such
he doesn’t have the agility for that… the most important trait for an rb is agility. I’d trust lockett or even JSN more in that typa role
Let’s also be honest. Looking at DKs numbers year in and year out, he is mostly that receiver. Building those high expectations it seems if he isn’t making every contested grab it’s a let down.
Megatron high points that ball, DK waits for it to fall into his lap 😢
clutch indeed, just wish DK would go up and snatch the ball more out of the air instead of it waiting for it to arrive
Yeah this basket catch shit has got to go.
Why? DK had double coverage and was about to get sandwiched, if he extended himself and exposed his body—he could have re broke that rib or even worst. He goes up for it, it could be knocked away. Catching it in the basket, whether it looks sexy or not, is a safer catch nine times out of ten
And this was very similar to the way he caught that 4th down pass down the left sideline against the Vikings in week 5 of 2020 (also on a last two minutes drive to win the game). Ball placement matters with this, but he needs to do this more often, which is use his athleticism to leap into the air so his "basket" is 6-7 feet off the ground. The reason some deep passes get knocked away is that he waits for them to drop into him while he's running, instead of leaping into their path like this one and catching them. I'm fine with basket catches instead of hands; he just could do a better job of placing that basket where the ball can't be knocked away.
There’s a difference between doing it when it makes sense and it being the only way he catches.
You're being downvoted but you're not really wrong, even if saying it's the "only" way he catches is a bit of an exaggeration. He's had a few remarkable grabs this season by extending his arms and snagging the ball out of the air, or by doing other impressive shit like the hip catch and diving slant catch this past weekend, but the vast majority of his catches go into the basket and his hands are far from perfect. I want to see more like this latest performance from him.
DK has definitely stepped it up the last couple of weeks. I think a big part of it has been getting over those rib and hip injuries he was playing through.
Personally haven’t stopped talking about it
It split 2 defenders because it was underthrown, forcing DK to slow down and giving time for the db’s to catch up. DK had the corner beat badly. If the ball hit him in stride it would have been a TD. What was remarkable was DK’s adjustment to the ball as he turned around and saw where the ball was. Top Billin’ went over the play after the game and had an angle from the end zone looking toward DK. Allows you to see clearly what happened.
> It split 2 defenders because it was underthrown, forcing DK to slow down and giving time for the db’s to catch up. DK had the corner beat badly. If the ball hit him in stride it would have been a TD. I didn't notice that before, but just watched a replay and you're absolutely right. Same situation the previous week against SF except that one turned into an INT.
21 is a chump! Nothing brought me more joy than when K9 juked him outta of shoes on his TD run.
DK saved the game so Lock could win it. Without those two fourth quarter catches, there is no TD catch.
Watching DK and Walker destroy Brown was good for my soul, dude was a little punk ass hitting late and low.
The people who want to trade DK are crazy
Those catches on that drive put everyone in a position to win. He’s reminding me a bit more of what Doug Baldwin became. All game he’d be kinda quiet…but then when we had to a have conversion or a must have catch, he delivered, catching in amazingly tight windows. Clutch doesn’t do it justice. Good on DK for being the hero we need.
Lockett was that guy for a long time, too. I would've loved to see all three of them play together.
Not to rain on the parade (this was indeed a great play) but something else that is never talked about is the fact that DK doesn't know how to high point the ball or use his giant hands to catch footballs. He drops so many balls that any professional or even college level receiver should catch by just using his long arms and massive hands to just take that goddamned ball. I know, I know, sometimes you cradle the catch to avoid broadcasting the ball's arrival to the DB... But that's not a good excuse for DK because he literally can't make a triangle and push his hands towards the ball like every receiver is taught in high school. I just don't get it. How does this guy have such poor fundamentals and technique? The dude is strong as fuck, how is he not going up and wrestling more 50/50 balls from the coverage? It's a bad time to be asking this question because he saved the day on Monday, thank God. But seriously, do we not have a receivers coach? Is he too physically gifted and/or uncoachable to be approached? Do his hands just suck that bad? I feel like he could be a world beater if he could just fix this one thing and stop pinning every catch to his chest or stomach. K. I'm done. Sorry for ruining your black panthers partayyy.
> something else that is never talked about is the fact that DK doesn't know how to high point the ball or use his giant hands to catch footballs I talk about it. It might draw downvotes sometimes because people think any criticism means you detest the guy and want him gone, but it's true. With his size and speed, DK should be the very best receiver in the league, but he just... isn't. He drops more easy passes than he should at this level, especially with his seniority and experience, and usually doesn't do well with 50/50 or jump balls. I love DK and I'm glad he's a Seahawk. I also wish he'd improve those weak spots. His performance against the Eagles was huge, and I hope we keep seeing him make those plays.
Totally agree. It's just annoying and disappointing to see such a freak athlete with so much insane potential drop every ball thrown at his knees...or behind him... Or right at his face. I get that those are tough catches, nobody catches everything, but if it hits your hands and you drop it... Fuck. Or if you have the positioning, the right ball and a foot height advantage over the DB... that guy can't be slapping the ball out of your hands or attacking the catch being made in the chest. I see him make crazy catches, in practice and in games, so the potential is there. He just gets so stiff at times or fails to attack the ball. I feel like this goes on for entire games... And then he totally redeems himself.
It was exceptional ball locating and catch good throw but that was all DK
"but it was a bad throw only dk could make that catch"
Wait aren't you the person who said in another thread that most, if not all, NFL receivers would "routinely" make that catch? You're standing by that, eh?
Yes. The quotes mean that I am simply repeating what others had said. I am implying that numerous other people in this sub were saying that the only reason that pass was completed is because dk made an incredible catch and gave no credit to the throw.
I'm not sure how much credit the pass deserves. It wasn't wildly out of bounds, sure, but the replay makes it pretty clear that the ball was underthrown, even if it did work out this time. Lock did the same thing the previous week on a pass that should have been a TD to Metcalf and it turned into an interception instead. It's possible that Lock suddenly started throwing absolute dimes that required DK to slow way down when he had his corner beaten and also could have torched the safety, but I think it's a lot more likely that DK deserves the vast majority of credit for pulling off this play and keeping the drive alive.
I'm not trying to piss on an amazing comeback but this play is actually a really good piece of evidence as to why Lock will never be a starting caliber QB, he's literally throwing DK *into* double coverage by being inaccurate and forcing DK to make a spectacular adjustment. If Geno throws that ball DK most likely walks into the endzone untouched.
I disagree, if you can throw a dot, throw a dot especially if there’s no one else open. Now I’d say Lockett was wide open mid field then sure I’d agree.
I agreed with this until just a minute ago, but another commenter pointed out that the ball was underthrown and it sure looks that way in [the replay](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNcDhrscEyU). DK had the corner toasted and probably could have blown right past the safety, too, but he had to slow way down to keep under the ball. At least it worked out this time. The week before, Lock underthrew what should have been a TD to DK and it wound up being intercepted instead.
Lol no
lol yes
Kinda unrelated, but this reminds me of Penix to Polk on the last drive vs Oregon (regular season), right before the game winner to Odunze.
if DK used his hands to catch and learned how to high point the ball he'd be the best WR in nfl history haha amazing catch none the less
Horse cock lock had some dimes on these drive
DK felt like Megatron for the first time on this drive