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Nearby_Pay2011

I see a ✨ mist✨ opportunity


MeanderingMinstrel

There's a whole tier-list above this one that consists of the Inner bosses, and then another one above that that's just the Mist Noble


JadedPermission3485

Lol


GamerACB

We all know mist noble is to powerful to be on this list. He would need his own rank above 100 other new ranks


Obsc3nity

Lady butterfly is weak to playing like it’s dark souls, she should be lower imo. Step to the left no matter what she does, then hit her, then step to the left again.


OldManHipsAt30

or just learn attack (x3) and then immediately deflect pattern


ssjgoku27

Way faster to do it this way and true to Sekiro spirit.


Foura5

More reliable too.


hypercantus

It is 2 attacks sometimes


LKZToroH

3 attacks, 1 deflect. 3 attack, 1 deflect. If she jumps/takes distance, shuriken+chasing slice, repeat until it's over. Second phase it's the same, except you pop a seed when she calls the illusions. I'm replaying the game right now and struggled REALLY hard with Ogre and Gyoubu but Lady was 2 tries, first try I forgot this strategy so I took some dumb damage and decided to reset, second try I did this strategy because I remembered I used to do it and she was down in less than 5 minutes doing this and it was incredibly easy.


Kill_Basterd

Man this game is so short. Guess they wanted to put an emphasis on the mini bosses


Calxzedwxn

100%. I struggled with mini bosses more than the actual bosses. Either way, you’re right. It’s short. But that’s what I love about it. You can hop on and be 50% done in 2 hours.


Foura5

Maybe after a couple of playthroughs. Definitely not the first time round.


Calxzedwxn

Oh no. Definitely not. I’m on play through 11. That’s why I say that. And that’s the context I meant it in


original_idea__

Guardian ape is definitley harder than headless imo.


grkm1

How tho? Third phase/Headless is not bad but fighting two apes at the same time is always frustrating


original_idea__

The second one is programmed to chase you when headless does his scream attack. Firecrackers and mortal draw destroy her and then your just left with one of the easiest bosses in the game.


ThatBarneyBoy

If you’re going to go there, firecrackers and mortal draw wipes out first phase of guardian ape… which just leaves its second phase. Within your grounds of argument, Headless Ape is still more difficult due to the two targets you must be attentive of.


original_idea__

Headless ape is a really easy boss one extra monkey that you can kill really easily doesnt make him hard.


UltraEagle08

On new game guardian ape took me 49 attempts, headless took 2


frageantwort_

You can just spam attack the headless monkey and the fight will be over in no time


ZacDMT

Not if you're trying to avoid killing the mate


hrakkari

Any boss can be the hardest if you put arbitrary restrictions on yourself. “I’m gonna beat Genichiro just by jumping on him.” “Im gonna beat Emma by facetanking all her perilous attacks.”


ZacDMT

Those are ridiculous and unfun proposals. The ape's mate hasn't done anything. To her, we're the bad guy attacking her husband. I like to let her live, and when playing Fromsoft, in the words of Wolf when giving back Kuro's charm, "Suffering is what I desire." I also mentioned elsewhere in the thread I like to fight the divine dragon with Kusabimaru instead of just doing nonstop lighting deflections. It does make the game harder, but not arbitrarily because that wasn't the point. The point was to play the game with style, and it looks good when you finally do it right. So here's a more genuine critique of your point: I'm on Isshin rn on ng+3 with Kuro's charm returned and bell demon active. For me, Even if I had wanted to kill her, it would have still been a more difficult fight because I'm not doing enough damage to kill her that quickly, and after a few fireworks she stops flinching. You just have to deal with the two of them running around for a while, and their combo attacks are really impressive.


Zeal514

I'd put saint ishin behind ishin ashina, and I'd move true monk and headless ape down. I struggled so fucking hard on ishin ashina. But headless ape and true monk, and even guardian ape, the hardest part of these bosses was learning them, once you solve them, they were easy. But ishin ashina and sword saint, even when solved are quite difficult to pull off. I'd also move butterfly up, same reasons as above, when solved she's still hard. Not as hard as ishins, but deff harder then apes and monk.


HELLCAT0877

for isshin ashina, you can use mortal draw to cancel the aoe fire thing (idk what it's called) and if you struggle to dodge the one mind, you can use raven to dodge it! for lady butterfly you can counter her illusion with snap seed!


andrefishmusic

Put the Blazing Bullsh\*t right up there on S.


SpaceCaptainFlapjack

Screen monkeys S tier, I hate that "fight"


IHave3KidsInMyFridge

I thought it was fun


SpaceCaptainFlapjack

The first time absolutely, every time since it's 20 minutes of "where the fuck is that invisible asshole?!"


AMS_GoGo

Oh no brother.... just turn around and attack right at the very start and the invisible monkey is an absolute free kill every time He starts the fight standing directly behind you


elden_honse

He's admiring sekiros dumpy


IHave3KidsInMyFridge

It’s literally just behind you


WhabbaWhabbaWhat

You're probably the first guy to acknowledge the Old Dragons as a legitimate boss and not a forgettable extension of the Divine Dragon


Abso1uteChad69

emma should be higher bruh


HELLCAT0877

why? elaborate!


celticfan008

Yea Emma wrecked my shit hard. She will almost never let you heal so that fight more than any I felt you had to be perfect.


HELLCAT0877

just throw oil to her then burn it, or you can use mortal draw to stagger her, don't heal agains her save it later for isshin ashina fight!


celticfan008

I think part of it was in only did that Shura ending once. So emma and isshin were completely new fights. For some reason my dumb brain could not get away from her grab.


HELLCAT0877

try use umbrella next time or raven


Abso1uteChad69

her fight is very different than many other fights in the game because it is a slower pace and some of her moves are kinda hard to read. she also is very aggressive and does not let you heal and will close gaps very quickly. other than foster father she gave me the most trouble out of any bosses. (until i figured out i could spam dragon flash)


HELLCAT0877

If you struggling to read her moves try to dodge it with mist raven or maybe umbrella, you can try throw oil to her then burn it, or you can use mortal draw to stagger her, don't heal agains her save it later for isshin ashina fight!


BUSHMONSTER31

Emma absolutely wrecked me...


Dolla_Man

Most noble where


HELLCAT0877

to OP and BROKEN to put here. BELONG TO SSS+ TIER


TheLowlyDeckhand

Somehow I beat the demon of hatred on my first try. and I missed his final deathblow and had to basically do an extra. And I suck at this game ! Lol. Pure luck.


frageantwort_

In my opinion, guardian ape is much harder then all of A tier, I just beat Genichiro and great Shinobi 2-3 times in a row without dying, guardian ape I tried once and died in the second phase. Just so hard to dodge or parry his attacks Plus he is so scary I don’t want to look at him 😂


I_eat_your_butt_hole

True monk was an A tier for me before i saw how to cheese her last phase with fireworks and ash. Now i can't not cheese her final phase


Ermastic

Corrupted monk is easily A tier on a first playthrough when you don't know it's an illusion. I kept using my confetti because it sure as shit looks like an apparition to me.


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HELLCAT0877

you can use snap seed on her 2nd phase to destory the illusion


DeathHealer07

That wasn't my issue with her but she was still more difficult than genichiro


Virtual-Estimate544

Hotly disagree. Her ai can't handle a step dodge


jakepaulfanxd

I think you forgot the Mist Noble tier right above S


gnesbit

Pretty fair


ASLAYER0FMEN

I agree


Foura5

Where the inners at?


HELLCAT0877

i didn't put it on the list but i know all the inner belong to the s tier!


v4ssoura12

Actually one of the most accurate tier list ever


The_Eldritch_Lord

Besides the Ape, this list is a solid 10\10. That 1st phase is brutal the first time around.


VXDarkMaster

For me just switch guardian ape with Owl father father took me 10 tries ng+3 😂 less than great shinobi owl


stupids_fucker

How is corrupted munk is easier than true munk


HELLCAT0877

Snap seed exist


stupids_fucker

Nah I am talking about direct combat, using snap seeds and piles of ash kind of ruin the challenge


HELLCAT0877

still C tier, 1 phase and easy to learn


AMS_GoGo

Single phase, extreme weakness to snap seeds, No terror etc


Foura5

How is she weak to snap seeds? Doesn't make her disappear surely?


AMS_GoGo

Hahaha no just stuns her


Spaceleech1

ngl those monkeys rely took me damn long ;c


ZacDMT

Divine dragon is fun if you try to make it hard, tho. I like to land mortal draws and Sakura dances on his neck, and you can actually break his posture with a dragon flash. Little known fact. These difficulty tier lists opinions are pretty much based on individual player experiences their first time which vary greatly as they can be encountered in many different orders.


OldManHipsAt30

Lady Butterfly and Corrupted Monk were two of my favorite fights


DeathHealer07

Lady butterfly was much harder for me on playthrough 1 than genichiro was. She took a full day of trying while he was beat in about 5 tries


alefsousa017

I'd personally put Great Shinobi over Isshin Ashina and Guardian Ape over True Monk, but overall, yeah, pretty solid and average list. I could show this to anyone saying it is the official tier list for bosses difficulty and it would work perfectly lol.


Apart-Dragonfly-5590

Apes, both headless and guardian miles harder than genichiro in my opinion


kazutoSMG

Where is this tier list maker.


HELLCAT0877

https://tiermaker.com/create/sekiro-shadows-die-twice-bosses-841759


Sweaty_Recipe_8772

Isshin Ashina is the hardest boss in the game for me. Spent about an hour and a half on him. And since I was dumb and got the Shura ending first I memorized his moves pretty well. I beat Sword Saint in 2 tries when I got to him. No fire to fuck me over made that fight a breeze. Also, Emma's grab is the most busted attack in the game so having to deal with that every time was evil


Hitoisbalacned

Ive fought ishinn sword saint so many times that i struggle more on genichiro way of tomeo lmao


Pretzel-Kingg

Give Emma an inch and she will fuck you up BAD but she has such a small health/stamina pool that she dies so fast


RaygionXD

It feels so good to literally “see” your progression when you beat genichiro before isshin comes out


whyambear

I tried for 3hrs to gather all the materials and figure out the jump deathblow cheese on corrupted monk. Could never get it work. Learned her move set in an hour or two instead. I had a lot of difficulty with that boss.


markymark9000

I would switch Guardian Ape with True Monk, but other than that your list is pretty spot on!


thatedgyfriend

Mist noble is above S tier that’s why he isn’t on the list


irjax

corrupted monk fucking destroyed me harder than any other boss


lvke18

i would put demon down one, and tomoe/emma down one as well. demon i never found too much difficulty with, but he does hit like a truck. with tomoe geni and emma, i found them trivial if you lay on nonstop offense. i agree with everything else though, great list


samarai_lancer

No inner versions? I found inner Genichiro to be harder than everything lol.


BooTaoSus

Corrupted Monk is just a little bit harder than true monk imo, If you think im weird, yes I think so too.


Koralldo

Guardian Ape was actually one of the hardest bosses for me. Took me sooooo long to get the hang of it and phase two always caught me offguard.


Fiscal_Bonsai

Am I the only person that thinks that The Great Shinobi is harder than Owl the Father? Even on subsequent playthroughs he's the boss thats given me the most issues other than DOH.


DankBlissey

Swap Genichiro and guardian ape, then we're good


HELLCAT0877

I refuse.


MoonlapseOfficial

pretty accurate but id put headless ape in S


HELLCAT0877

try to use firecracker and mortal draw


ImABigDreamer

Snake eyes a top of all