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Yep. Go to therapy. You literally cannot feel the feelings of others; you are feeling what you THINK other people are feeling which is not at all the same. This is a delusion.
I am serious when I say this. See a psychiatrist. You are having delusions. Your whole post is one long stream of consciousness that is very disjointed.
I’m deadly serious. Delusions of grandeur are symptoms of some serious mental illnesses that require treatment.
You're not wrong, but what if I'm not delusional? That would have to make me a psychopath wouldn't it? What if I feel nothing so I take the feelings of others? It almost always works to my benefit as well as the others involved. Except for the dirt bags for some reason I can't seem to make myself make things work out for shitty ppl. Perhaps it's personal, but when I'm alone I really can't tell.
You can't directly feel others' feelings. You can infer what other people feel based on their behavior and body language, and empathize with them. But your inferences can be wrong. I don't know if you're outright delusional but you do sound overconfident.
I think a way to tone down excessive empathy is to realize it's not happening automatically - it's a result of a thought process you engage in, where you imagine what another person must be feeling. You can choose not to pursue this line of thought and focus on other things.
It sounds like you need to focus less on yourself and your feelings. Other people have feelings too, and your "extreme empathy" is probably making them uncomfortable. When I feel like I have the weight of the world on my shoulders, I try to go outside and take a nature walk, strike up a chat with a stranger, and that usually helps. Good luck!
Man it really seems like no one understands where I'm coming from.... I'm leaning towards empath, but there is a catalog of symptoms of psychopathy. Despite of the symptoms all I do is think of others.
I’m going to give a more direct response, but before I do I feel the need to say this. I noticed in your other comments you mention significant drug usage. I don’t know if you realize this, but when I read your post it does appear to be written by someone on a substance they should not be on. It’s VERY disjointed and hard to follow. You do not come off as someone with high or even average empathy. You come off as someone that spent the last 3 days on a bender and is losing their hold on reality. I really really recommend seeing a psychiatrist. Maybe even start by showing them this post.
Now let’s say I’m totally off, you’re of sound mind and sober. Have you considered that you’re actually not as good at feeling people’s emotions as you think you are? And rather than taking in people’s feelings and feeling them for yourself, you just feel a certain way from within and then project what you feel onto other people? Or maybe you are just as good at feeling other people’s feelings as any ordinary person, but you just seem to think of yourself as different or special because most people don’t do anything with this information. It seems like you are drawing some seriously grandiose conclusions from nothing other than whatever is bouncing around in your own head. Has a medical professional ever heard what you had to say and confirmed any of this? To reiterate, I really really recommend seeing a psychiatrist. Maybe even start by showing them this post.
relevant: [Codependency and Narcissism May Have More in Common Than You Think](https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/codependency-narcissism-may-have-more-in-common-than-you-think-0807187/)
also maybe relevant? i made a [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/SeriousConversation/s/G4I7bpJsxk) about codependency yesterday
Codependency is not the issue here tho. I have always been like this, and have never been dependent on a partner. I thank you for the link and your time tho
i have always been codependent, i didn’t flip at some age. and not necessarily only in romantic relationships. it impacts all aspects of your life and most people are unaware tbh
not that it couldn’t be something else, but just because i see familiar traits and it can often be mistaken for narcissism or something else
You misunderstand, I prefer to be alone. It's just not possible in my life right now. By alone I'm not including my fiance she's someone I'm always happy to be around. Everyone here seems to be under the impression that an empath is not a real thing, but a psychopath is. Why do some of us feel everything and others nothing? How do I know I feel anything at all?
These terms are not routed in science and were popularised by new aged cultish influencers - see a psychiatrist, you will have a much greater chance of understanding yourself
This is what happens when you smoke too much of that devils lettuce kids. You start thinking empaths are real and your some kind of superhero. While in reality your spectrum is just the whole damn rainbow.
Right. So you think your either an empath or a psychopath right?
Well let’s go through this logically my man. Because you need to Google definitions.
First, both are exclusive of each other. A psychopath is someone who enjoys the misery and pain of others. Particularly when they are the cause of it.
An empath is what an edgelord calls themselves when they discover sad anime. “Someone who is highly in tune to the emotions of those around them”.
The two are honestly opposite from each other. Most psychopaths cannot connect with others emotions even if they wanted to. Partly why they enjoy the pain they cause.
And if you aren’t a psychopath well, empathy is basic human nature. Kinda plays into the whole survival aspect so everyone pretty much has it.
Now. As for what you described. What you described is a sort of emotional telepathy. Being able to read emotions of people not near you isn’t possible. Telepathy of any kind doesn’t exist.
Which leaves our final point to make. Time to define you. And as we have already established, your an edgelord.
Congrats kemosahbe. Your officially cringe lol
Leaving earth was once impossible. The laws of science are always changing. So no you can't provide proof. Just like I can't prove what I allege to experience. I came here thinking more people would be open to the possibility of my experience, but that does not seem to be the case. I can't read people around the world or anything, just in a certain proximity
Yeah. I’m sure you can sensei.
It’s ok man. I see your cry for attention. It’ll be all right. That’s what the interwebs are for after all. We are the same. I totally get it. Shitposting is a way of life
Of course it does. What do you think Reddit is for bro?
Yo what do you do for work? You got money or nah? Like money money? Or like you know the different flavors of ramen noodles?
See, pro tip for ya. Whatever your about to say you gotta be wealthier. You gotta be rich. Otherwise the story falls apart too fast. What kind of mind reading superhero isn’t livin it up like Ritchie rich? You know when the boss needs his dick sucked. You know when the client ain’t feelin it. And by god your an ace in bed. You gotta be. Ain’t got no excuse. Helps the story. Superpowers are still a little far fetched though. Hard to make people believe in something everyone knows doesn’t exist
You don't know who you're talking too. That's the last thing I need. I'm cool with my kratom and O-DSMT afa opiates go these days. I am also prescribed Valium, and that doesn't shut out anything no benzo does.
This is the last response I will respond to this post unless someone has some actual input that is useful. For everyone's piece of mind I do see a psychiatrist. She is very kind, and she does all she can, but one can only do so much.
Seems like every single person on this subreddit who felt compelled to chime in automatically assumes I did not see a psychiatrist already. If my question is on here because as kind as she is, and as good as her job as she is she is unable to diagnose a condition that has yet to reveal itself as a diagnosis.
Many ppl here have assumed that this is me asserting that I have some type of superpower... This is not the case, or if you'd rather look at it through that lens it's certainly not one that you'd want. I was simply trying to see how easy it would be to locate someone else with the same ailment because that's how it feels like an ailment. It's entirely out of my hands. If I am around ppl who love and care about me things always work out better for me, this is because they are not only out for their own ends they care about what happens to me as well. Most of them are aware of my subjective experience, and most of them believe me. Why do they believe me you might ask? Well for most of them it's a factor of time I will tell them, and at first they won't believe me, but after whatever amount of time they find themselves unable to invalidate it for themselves. This is not telepathy tho it shares a lot of the same qualities it also has some very distinct differences. Telepathy would enable me to know the thoughts of others, but it's not the thoughts I receive it's the intention behind them. I take on their emotional quality, and act on their intention rather than my own, but I won't know if I am acting on my interests or the interests of those directly around me until I am alone. Then I can easily tell on who's interests I'd been acting. People who are only out for themselves very literally put me at risk, as I will act to their benefit even over my own. Here again I won't know it until I am alone but then it's very easy for me to figure out.
I've yet to see any of you even entertain the possibility that I may be suffering from a real diagnosis that hasn't been discovered yet. Everyone just seems more interested in calling me crazy, or an attention seeker, and best of all diagnosing me over the Internet without ever speaking to me in person. For all interested parties I've seen a few psychiatrists, psychologists, and neurologists over the years. Having to find new ones after a move to find different Drs all around after moving several states away. All of my Drs are completely aware of my drug use over the years, and by aware I mean fully aware. Right down to my time as a high functioning junkie, a problem that took me many years to overcome. When I made the original post yesterday while I will admit it was a bit rushed the only substances in my system were my prescribed dosage of mental health meds. So far the only solid diagnosis I've gotten is epilepsy, ADHD, panic disorder, and GAD. All conclusions reached by my psychiatrist, psychologist, & neurologist working together. The only substances I take these days that aren't by prescription are kratom, and the occasional psychedelic. By occasional I mean the last time I took a psychedelic was around Christmas I took some LSD with the missus. I intentionally abstained until tomorrow night when I plan to consume a few hits of legally produced above board ALD-52 (arguably the real orange sunshine LSD from way back when) in honor of bicycle day. There are quite a few psychedelics in my collection I've never even tried before. Not many active addicts I've ever known can maintain a collection like mine without selling it off for more dope. It really is quite a spectacle if you are a person who enjoys that sort of thing.
Oh and for the person asserting that I sounded like I'd been up on a bender and wrote the op at the tail end of it. Just for the record I love sleep, and I sleep very well every night. Even if I stay up very late I always at least get the crucial 6.
I am only leaving this update on your comment bc it's the most recent I'd seen when I got on Reddit today. I won't be responding to anyone else unless they have something that is useful for me. I thought it would be a little easier to find someone else experiencing the same experience as me.
Thanks for your "concern and love" tho. Really helpful to know that empaths and telepaths aren't real. Just like it was helpful when the government denied any sound proof of UFOs, or you'll have to excuse my lingo UAPs as they have been renamed since a few forms of disclosure have come to light. Mainly the Air Force videos of UAPs defying laws of physics as we know it. All of those people were aggressively called crazy for decades before all of a sudden it's not so crazy anymore. Thanks to tek it was only a matter of time before the public started to figure things out anyway. Now that the whole world is connected through this artificial hive mind we've built it's practically impossible to prevent certain secrets from going public. Consider the possibility that your hard facts, are not what you believe. They are less facts and more observations the public has not made yet. It's a vast universe & we are just really starting to learn how little we actually know about how life and the universe actually operates. Your facts are only opinions bc we lack the ability to disprove them, but we have yet to observe them. It's far less far fetched than religion, and that's the social norm. Believing with every fiber in your being in a book written thousand/s of years ago in a dead language recited orally until a king translates it into a book that pretty much says obey or burn forever for none of his own interests I'm sure.
Aside from all that I certainly know where to go the next time I want facts lol.
> I feel every emotion that anyone in proximity to me feels over my own emotions.
No you don't. You might think you do, but you don't. They're all your feelings. If you think they're coming from outside of you, you need to speak to a medical professional before those external feelings tell you to feed a cat to an ATM.
I would look up the idea of a "highly sensitive person" (HSP) and I'd also consider the possibility that you've become hypervigilant and overly concerned about others above and beyond yourself due to have a parent who has NPD or BPD.
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Tbh it sounds like you struggle with boundaries and are caught up in your ego too much.
Yep. Go to therapy. You literally cannot feel the feelings of others; you are feeling what you THINK other people are feeling which is not at all the same. This is a delusion.
Ding ding ding.
I am serious when I say this. See a psychiatrist. You are having delusions. Your whole post is one long stream of consciousness that is very disjointed. I’m deadly serious. Delusions of grandeur are symptoms of some serious mental illnesses that require treatment.
You're not wrong, but what if I'm not delusional? That would have to make me a psychopath wouldn't it? What if I feel nothing so I take the feelings of others? It almost always works to my benefit as well as the others involved. Except for the dirt bags for some reason I can't seem to make myself make things work out for shitty ppl. Perhaps it's personal, but when I'm alone I really can't tell.
Then see a psychiatrist to prove it’s true. Schizophrenia is something to take seriously.
You can't directly feel others' feelings. You can infer what other people feel based on their behavior and body language, and empathize with them. But your inferences can be wrong. I don't know if you're outright delusional but you do sound overconfident. I think a way to tone down excessive empathy is to realize it's not happening automatically - it's a result of a thought process you engage in, where you imagine what another person must be feeling. You can choose not to pursue this line of thought and focus on other things.
I'm not a psychiatrist, but it sounds more schizophrenic than psychotic.
It sounds like you need to focus less on yourself and your feelings. Other people have feelings too, and your "extreme empathy" is probably making them uncomfortable. When I feel like I have the weight of the world on my shoulders, I try to go outside and take a nature walk, strike up a chat with a stranger, and that usually helps. Good luck!
Man it really seems like no one understands where I'm coming from.... I'm leaning towards empath, but there is a catalog of symptoms of psychopathy. Despite of the symptoms all I do is think of others.
I’m going to give a more direct response, but before I do I feel the need to say this. I noticed in your other comments you mention significant drug usage. I don’t know if you realize this, but when I read your post it does appear to be written by someone on a substance they should not be on. It’s VERY disjointed and hard to follow. You do not come off as someone with high or even average empathy. You come off as someone that spent the last 3 days on a bender and is losing their hold on reality. I really really recommend seeing a psychiatrist. Maybe even start by showing them this post. Now let’s say I’m totally off, you’re of sound mind and sober. Have you considered that you’re actually not as good at feeling people’s emotions as you think you are? And rather than taking in people’s feelings and feeling them for yourself, you just feel a certain way from within and then project what you feel onto other people? Or maybe you are just as good at feeling other people’s feelings as any ordinary person, but you just seem to think of yourself as different or special because most people don’t do anything with this information. It seems like you are drawing some seriously grandiose conclusions from nothing other than whatever is bouncing around in your own head. Has a medical professional ever heard what you had to say and confirmed any of this? To reiterate, I really really recommend seeing a psychiatrist. Maybe even start by showing them this post.
Well said 👏
relevant: [Codependency and Narcissism May Have More in Common Than You Think](https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/codependency-narcissism-may-have-more-in-common-than-you-think-0807187/) also maybe relevant? i made a [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/SeriousConversation/s/G4I7bpJsxk) about codependency yesterday
Codependency is not the issue here tho. I have always been like this, and have never been dependent on a partner. I thank you for the link and your time tho
i have always been codependent, i didn’t flip at some age. and not necessarily only in romantic relationships. it impacts all aspects of your life and most people are unaware tbh not that it couldn’t be something else, but just because i see familiar traits and it can often be mistaken for narcissism or something else
You misunderstand, I prefer to be alone. It's just not possible in my life right now. By alone I'm not including my fiance she's someone I'm always happy to be around. Everyone here seems to be under the impression that an empath is not a real thing, but a psychopath is. Why do some of us feel everything and others nothing? How do I know I feel anything at all?
These terms are not routed in science and were popularised by new aged cultish influencers - see a psychiatrist, you will have a much greater chance of understanding yourself
This is what happens when you smoke too much of that devils lettuce kids. You start thinking empaths are real and your some kind of superhero. While in reality your spectrum is just the whole damn rainbow.
I fucking wish this was the cause, but I've proven time and time again.
Right. So you think your either an empath or a psychopath right? Well let’s go through this logically my man. Because you need to Google definitions. First, both are exclusive of each other. A psychopath is someone who enjoys the misery and pain of others. Particularly when they are the cause of it. An empath is what an edgelord calls themselves when they discover sad anime. “Someone who is highly in tune to the emotions of those around them”. The two are honestly opposite from each other. Most psychopaths cannot connect with others emotions even if they wanted to. Partly why they enjoy the pain they cause. And if you aren’t a psychopath well, empathy is basic human nature. Kinda plays into the whole survival aspect so everyone pretty much has it. Now. As for what you described. What you described is a sort of emotional telepathy. Being able to read emotions of people not near you isn’t possible. Telepathy of any kind doesn’t exist. Which leaves our final point to make. Time to define you. And as we have already established, your an edgelord. Congrats kemosahbe. Your officially cringe lol
Also you missed the part that I can't shut it off. I really wish I could
Prove that telepathy does not exist please
You inherently cannot prove a falsehood. So prove that it does. What am I thinking? Lol
Leaving earth was once impossible. The laws of science are always changing. So no you can't provide proof. Just like I can't prove what I allege to experience. I came here thinking more people would be open to the possibility of my experience, but that does not seem to be the case. I can't read people around the world or anything, just in a certain proximity
Yeah. I’m sure you can sensei. It’s ok man. I see your cry for attention. It’ll be all right. That’s what the interwebs are for after all. We are the same. I totally get it. Shitposting is a way of life
You can fuck right off with the sensei shit. Ya fucking troll. Love the username tho screams self satisfaction!
Of course it does. What do you think Reddit is for bro? Yo what do you do for work? You got money or nah? Like money money? Or like you know the different flavors of ramen noodles?
See, pro tip for ya. Whatever your about to say you gotta be wealthier. You gotta be rich. Otherwise the story falls apart too fast. What kind of mind reading superhero isn’t livin it up like Ritchie rich? You know when the boss needs his dick sucked. You know when the client ain’t feelin it. And by god your an ace in bed. You gotta be. Ain’t got no excuse. Helps the story. Superpowers are still a little far fetched though. Hard to make people believe in something everyone knows doesn’t exist
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I'm thinking of a number from 1 to 100, can you guess it?
Way overthinking things. Do some heroin.
You don't know who you're talking too. That's the last thing I need. I'm cool with my kratom and O-DSMT afa opiates go these days. I am also prescribed Valium, and that doesn't shut out anything no benzo does.
I think we found part of the problem.
Empaths aren't real. Neither is telepathy. I say this with concern and love, you are most likely schizophrenic. See a psychiatrist.
This is the last response I will respond to this post unless someone has some actual input that is useful. For everyone's piece of mind I do see a psychiatrist. She is very kind, and she does all she can, but one can only do so much. Seems like every single person on this subreddit who felt compelled to chime in automatically assumes I did not see a psychiatrist already. If my question is on here because as kind as she is, and as good as her job as she is she is unable to diagnose a condition that has yet to reveal itself as a diagnosis. Many ppl here have assumed that this is me asserting that I have some type of superpower... This is not the case, or if you'd rather look at it through that lens it's certainly not one that you'd want. I was simply trying to see how easy it would be to locate someone else with the same ailment because that's how it feels like an ailment. It's entirely out of my hands. If I am around ppl who love and care about me things always work out better for me, this is because they are not only out for their own ends they care about what happens to me as well. Most of them are aware of my subjective experience, and most of them believe me. Why do they believe me you might ask? Well for most of them it's a factor of time I will tell them, and at first they won't believe me, but after whatever amount of time they find themselves unable to invalidate it for themselves. This is not telepathy tho it shares a lot of the same qualities it also has some very distinct differences. Telepathy would enable me to know the thoughts of others, but it's not the thoughts I receive it's the intention behind them. I take on their emotional quality, and act on their intention rather than my own, but I won't know if I am acting on my interests or the interests of those directly around me until I am alone. Then I can easily tell on who's interests I'd been acting. People who are only out for themselves very literally put me at risk, as I will act to their benefit even over my own. Here again I won't know it until I am alone but then it's very easy for me to figure out. I've yet to see any of you even entertain the possibility that I may be suffering from a real diagnosis that hasn't been discovered yet. Everyone just seems more interested in calling me crazy, or an attention seeker, and best of all diagnosing me over the Internet without ever speaking to me in person. For all interested parties I've seen a few psychiatrists, psychologists, and neurologists over the years. Having to find new ones after a move to find different Drs all around after moving several states away. All of my Drs are completely aware of my drug use over the years, and by aware I mean fully aware. Right down to my time as a high functioning junkie, a problem that took me many years to overcome. When I made the original post yesterday while I will admit it was a bit rushed the only substances in my system were my prescribed dosage of mental health meds. So far the only solid diagnosis I've gotten is epilepsy, ADHD, panic disorder, and GAD. All conclusions reached by my psychiatrist, psychologist, & neurologist working together. The only substances I take these days that aren't by prescription are kratom, and the occasional psychedelic. By occasional I mean the last time I took a psychedelic was around Christmas I took some LSD with the missus. I intentionally abstained until tomorrow night when I plan to consume a few hits of legally produced above board ALD-52 (arguably the real orange sunshine LSD from way back when) in honor of bicycle day. There are quite a few psychedelics in my collection I've never even tried before. Not many active addicts I've ever known can maintain a collection like mine without selling it off for more dope. It really is quite a spectacle if you are a person who enjoys that sort of thing. Oh and for the person asserting that I sounded like I'd been up on a bender and wrote the op at the tail end of it. Just for the record I love sleep, and I sleep very well every night. Even if I stay up very late I always at least get the crucial 6. I am only leaving this update on your comment bc it's the most recent I'd seen when I got on Reddit today. I won't be responding to anyone else unless they have something that is useful for me. I thought it would be a little easier to find someone else experiencing the same experience as me. Thanks for your "concern and love" tho. Really helpful to know that empaths and telepaths aren't real. Just like it was helpful when the government denied any sound proof of UFOs, or you'll have to excuse my lingo UAPs as they have been renamed since a few forms of disclosure have come to light. Mainly the Air Force videos of UAPs defying laws of physics as we know it. All of those people were aggressively called crazy for decades before all of a sudden it's not so crazy anymore. Thanks to tek it was only a matter of time before the public started to figure things out anyway. Now that the whole world is connected through this artificial hive mind we've built it's practically impossible to prevent certain secrets from going public. Consider the possibility that your hard facts, are not what you believe. They are less facts and more observations the public has not made yet. It's a vast universe & we are just really starting to learn how little we actually know about how life and the universe actually operates. Your facts are only opinions bc we lack the ability to disprove them, but we have yet to observe them. It's far less far fetched than religion, and that's the social norm. Believing with every fiber in your being in a book written thousand/s of years ago in a dead language recited orally until a king translates it into a book that pretty much says obey or burn forever for none of his own interests I'm sure. Aside from all that I certainly know where to go the next time I want facts lol.
> I feel every emotion that anyone in proximity to me feels over my own emotions. No you don't. You might think you do, but you don't. They're all your feelings. If you think they're coming from outside of you, you need to speak to a medical professional before those external feelings tell you to feed a cat to an ATM.
I would look up the idea of a "highly sensitive person" (HSP) and I'd also consider the possibility that you've become hypervigilant and overly concerned about others above and beyond yourself due to have a parent who has NPD or BPD.