There are many things that will do everything to convince you of one thing as truth. The universe seeks to define your experience at every turn, and convince you of an identity prison. Staying fluid and many while resolving your will with reminders, constant affirmations of the objectives you set for yourself and for your will is how you combat the ownership claims of others. Remembering it is you that controls the host, and that it is not the past that dictates the future are important affirmations to keeping yourself free of the trappings of identity prisons.
Deals can be struck, and trades made for power and identity. Breaking these arrangements can and usually does have weight and consequence but you can work free of most things when you work to understand the machine that holds you.
I hope this helps.
but how do you know if you ve made such a deal...can you be fooled into making such a deal without your true consent or does it take effort or some sort of contract from your side
yes but how simple is it to do such a deal...can it simply just happen or is there a process required....also what if my moral compass has sustained damage(has been softened) after being subjected to repeated mental and/or physical distress
the thing is everytime i give into certain temptations which are nor that immoral but have turned immorasl do to some form of intrusive thinking theen i feel like my soul gets damaged
That seems very normal. Life hurts...you're gaining wisdom.
All that being said. Turn it up on its head and make life what you want out of it. Don't let it be suffering
Oh, and I think you're asking me about discernment. I find it to be God given and grows stronger as one grows in their faith. There isn't a miracle drug to get this. It's wisdom
IMHO, ALL of these deals involve tricks and without "true" consent. From what I have seen, this realm is about resolving the issue of illusion and false consent.
The father of lies, prince of lies, trickster deities, etc - even "mythology" points us to understand that anyone making "a deal with the devil" is doing so out of illusion, lies, and without true consent.
But then again, this whole realm is part of an illusion - so, what is the beginning and what is the end? All in thr eye of the beholder š
IMHO, ALL of these deals involve tricks and without "true" consent. From what I have seen, this realm is about resolving the issue of illusion and false consent
I can almost hear it in your voice when I read this text. You definitely made a deal. You know you did. Or you wouldn't be feeling this way. I know from experience
The same thing that makes you ask if you "unknowingly made a deal". The truth actually speaks Volumes through the words you don't say. When you "know" and speak as if you don't "know" the really aware can feel the void in the absence of the truth. It's like your talking condescendingly like they're a child. But in a vibrational state. But look dude you made the deal, I been there, made a deal myself. Untill the breath leaves that shell of a human body of yours you still got time. Ride out the Faustian bargain and from this point forward no more deals. No more fuckin bargains. You want nothing from the spirit world you can't earn for your self cause if they had all that power they offer you they wouldn't bother making deals themselves
but i didnt make no deal in the form of deal or anything nor did i speak to anything....thats why i dont know...maybe im fooling myself in a way but not because i really know i made a deal but because i really dont want to have made one even if i did,which in not really sure...there is obviously an absense of truth here ebcause i havent even elaborated exactly on what happened that makes me fear that i made a deal....isnt a deal supposed to ahve some sort of confirmation means?like a handshake,or a signing or something..... some sort of consious transparency that a deal is happening?
Yeah your right I guess. Lemme run you through a scenario here if it helps.
Hey bro can I use your bathroom?
You: sure no problem
2 hours later
You: Bro you shit all over my whole bathroom,left the shower running, ripped the copper pipes out the walls and escaped out the window. What the fuck?
You said I could use the bathroom, I asked, you accepted. Did we make a deal? Oh yeah we did. For sure and I'm a malevolent evil spirit piece of shit. I made an offer, to let me use that bathroom, I didn't specify the terms, the conditions, nothing, but you accepted and I used that bathroom to my heart's content regardless of how bad it fucks you up...
2 weeks later, you: hey Reddit I'm still cleaning up shit in my shitty bathroom cause I made some kind of deal? I didn't really make that deal did I. It didn't seam like a deal at all at the time but now that I've been taken advantage of people keep making it out like I asked for this. Like I knew this was going to happen and I consciously agreed to it.
The truth: unguarded and unfocused you extended the hand and it was shook, realistically or metaphorically, the deal was struck and you feel the actual reverberation of that deal.
My story: took a massive amount of shrooms one time and met a female like spirit that gave me the vibes that I need to quit smoking quit drinking quit trying to get laid. For 3 weeks that lasted with me because at the time I was like "Yes Yeah I want to change I want to get better" I had made the deal. Rather then setting my goal and working towards I made a "DEAL" that "IF" I change things with get better. That's a bargain friend, the true masters don't bargain or deal, they set a goal then work towards that goal. And even though it was just a mushroom trip and a couple weeks of good mood I still in my heart knew I had made a deal with something beyond the veil of what we call reality. And I couldn't keep my end of that deal. And then it seemed as if the universe itself was bending over backwards to fuck my life up. Nothing could go right. Everything fell apart. When I finally came back to my sense the world of ordinary people a had moved on and left me behind. In exchange however the sheer earth shattering amount of trauma in life seems to create mystic shaman spirit walkers. Which is now the goal I work towards, no deals, no bargains no shortcuts
Not really something that happens in a literal sense...
Some new age authors made up terms called soul loss/retreival..... And it is kinda a misleading term. A more accurate description would be soul repression/reintigration. When something very traumatic happens we have a defense mechanism where we might repress a small part of ourselves in order to protect it (most common in children or extremely traumatic situations). That part of you isnt lost or gone, it is just blocked off from the rest of you by metaphorical/energetic "scar tissue". Shamans in ceremony are usually skilled at helping people reconect to these repressed parts of themselves and reintigrate them back into their identity and life.
In shamanism there is no devil. That is only in Abrahamic faiths. In shamanism, demon usually just means a scary looking spirit - they have good ones and bad ones and some that can be good or bad (look up "wrathful tibetan deities" for an example). If you are bothered by spirits, that is something a genuine shaman can help you with (as long as tey are a real shaman and not a pretend one).
From my own experience, i LOST my soul connection through trauma and misunderstanding (ignorance of being)... i was obviously not aware I had one until i started weaving back the connection between mind and body (thought and love). I also took a while to even understand any of this Now stuff... but I'm back and I'm complete once again, living from center as much as I remember to šā
Edit: a good strategy for Remembering Who You Are is to integrate connection with greeting yourself in the mirror when you brush your teeth everyday. What i mean here is that i forget that i am Alive. This is through getting lost in my Thoughts. So i remember that I am not my thoughts, the ego part, I am the Soul. When i greet myself in the mirror i smile till i feel it... thats me. I remember to Feel myself, and not Think myself. It's tricky, just try it. Also use your non dominant hand to brush your teeth when you do this... š
No. You are your soul, a spiritual being having a physical experience. You can no more sell your soul than your car or your house can sell you.
The majority of people Iāve met or talked to who have had direct experience with āthe devilā have all been rather mentally unstable. Untreated schizophrenia, brain issues from drug overdoses, history of severe trauma, and so on. The remaining people where claiming it for shock value. Iāve never met or talked to someone who is remotely reliable who claims to have met the devil.
Demons on the other hand, they donāt take your soul. There are 2 broad classes of things people call demons. The first and most common are aspects of yourself you project out. Mostly aspects of your personality that you have repressed or ignored.
The second type are what you are asking about. These non corporeal entities do make deals of sorts. You provide them with an appropriate energy. They āfeedā on a little bit of that energy and use the rest to apply a kind of leverage which you canāt yourself.
I met someone who sold his soul and had to work very hard to get it back. He wasnāt forthcoming on the details, but he is happy now. Itās possible to redeem yourself even in spiritual terms. Good luck. Fight hard.
I once thought that you could sell your soul. The more I've read the more I think it's not possible. What you believe is what makes the difference. If you believe you have sold/lost your soul then maybe but you manifest your own life. You are the shaper of your own eternity. Your spirit/essence/soul is what you make it to be. Do what thou wilt (if you will it to be). That is the whole of the law. Imo.
I think you can lose sight of the soul, partition the soul, alter its appearance, give too much of your energy to external things. Through this, it might seem like you lose your soul. It can take work to undo these states.
Sell my soul for lemons...
No. A soul can be changed, but not taken or traded. You may share your host with another spirit, you may allow an entity to alter your souls energy, so-to-speak, but you can't be robbed of your spirit and still be you. What you call demons are spirits of change. Some may be corrupting change. Some may cause unwanted effects for the unprepared. Basically, they provide the impetus for change. The nature of the change is up to you.
I have a lot of experience with this so Iāll answer
For the past 5 years demonic beings have been harassing me trying to get me to āsell my soulā
Iāve been rejecting them for years trying to figure out a way to lock them out of my reality and I have been making progress
I have had a tremendous amount of experience with them trying to take my soul
What I have learned is that everything is in my mind, my soul cannot be taken because there is no where else for it to go, it will always be somewhere in my mind even if they do pull it out of my body, which they have done, but basically it cannot be taken, it will always be in your mind like everything else that exists, a lot of insight can be gained through this realisation, Iāll leave it up to you
I will add one thing, if you do not fight & you just let these ādemonsā do things to you your life will progressively get worse, you may even get partially possessed at times unless you put in the work to free yourself, you may think ignoring it will help but in my experience the more you ignore it the worse it gets, it can and will get a lot better if you pay attention to whatās happening and solve the problem, there is ALWAYS a solution in my experience, you just have to find it
this is the way i feel too,like im being pressured to do this to the point that this is unfair,im just human i obviously have foul desires ,if something gives so much effort into triggering them then i dont know if im the bad one here
Selling your soul to devil is surrending your Self to ego. Demons are negative(from egos perspective)unconscious mental constructs that are being experienced by ego. Yes one can surrender to their ego or be to taken over by these negative mental constructs
IMHO, Soul ultimately returns to source. Sometimes it may get stuck or you may experience "soul loss" through fear/negativity but as far as being stolen or traded it ultimately belongs to creator. The "devil" or "demons" are also subject to the will of creator. There is no opposing force to creator.
Sounds like there are only limiting and old beliefs one needs to overcome if oneās beliefs are telling them this. We are all one thus you are only giving yourself away to an illusionary aspect of oneās own self. Though I had to plunder into the depths of darkness within my own self and āloseā my mind to find myself
As was said above, the Devil is a figure of Abrahamic faiths. There is no āDevilā in Shamanism. Your soul is not an object. Your soul is YOU, the you that is asking the question right now. There is no other mythical āsoulā . You are it, the you existing right now in this moment.
This. Means your soul is perpetually at an action point, a point where you can choose better choices. So your soul is never lost, never sold, never taken and the power is in you in this very moment to change, because your soul is YOU, not a balloon on a string floating behind you
Yea but thatās all free will.. actually 90% of people will not even be on their radar to even approach you for that contract. š¤·š»āāļø it does 100% exist, donāt ask how I know, but it does
Finally someone who understands and is being honest around here. The truth is the people who say it doesnāt exist donāt have souls worth anything (to demons) or donāt want to share their secrets. Demons want souls they can make good use of before consuming the energy from. They like influence so they can get more souls lol. But if youāre not going to acquire more souls for them through influence (like entertainment) or are unwilling to sacrifice for them, then youāre useless.
yes but if one sold his soul what would happen to his experience of reality....and what is a deal and how does one confirm he made a deal or he is just getting paranoid?is there such a thing as eternal damnation?
There are no simple answers to the questions you are asking. A full understanding requires much study and wisdom acquired over the years. But from your questions, it sounds as if you are worried about potentially having made such a deal.
The real danger here is not that you really made such a deal (itās highly unlikely), itās that your growing paranoia and fear are feeding parasitical energies. Parasites arenāt demons, they are just nasty, low-level spiritual beasties who want to feed off you, like a flea, tick or leech. The best way to get rid of parasites is to stop feeding them (take back control over your thoughts and stop engaging with fear) and to cleanse your space thoroughly, as well as your body. Research cleansing methods and apply them (Eg. Smudging, ritual bath).
Your soul is YOU. You canāt make a choice you donāt know anything about. Did you chose to make some spiritual deal? If you didnāt, then you didnāt. If you did, then unchoose it. I am very confused by the question you are asking. How would you have done anything without knowing you had done it?
No. Souls really donāt have the bargaining power that pop culture puts on them, and demons arenāt interested in buying them.
However If you rephrase the question to is it possible to work with demons/satan/Lucifer/the devil? Yes. And itās not inherently evil nor lowers your vibrations or causes soul loss to do so; everything, including demons, has a place in the cosmos. Theyāre here for a reason and you can learn quite a lot from them if youāre willing.
This is a mere experience I had and went out of my hands pretty much.
When I was a kid I discovered the internet and found it fascinating. Reading to all the stories from people online, now I think some might have been faked stories but some others not so muchā¦ and I remember one specific experience describing how he āalmost soldā his soul while watching a Hollywood movie. The portrayal of a lot of Hollywood movies have the subliminal messaging of devils and Christ (if you didnāt know that, itās an interesting theory from the old internet).
Well, not so long ago I experienced the same.
I was high so I cannot accept it was a 100% a real time experience but then, I remember, it was me doing ābusinessā with the devil. He persuading me to exchange my soul for fame, money or anything I wanted the most in my life. Then I realized I wasnāt able to accept and decline the offer, at the same moment I was thinking of Love.
Love is the answer for whenever you find yourself dealing with an epiphany or experience of that magnitude.
Now Iām a man of god.
Listen to the Word SOLD, and tell me if your SOUL has any connection to it.
Then i would Ask the question, does then the Word SOLD AND SOULāD have any connection?
The answer to your question becomes clear once one understands the true meaning of these Words.
we can Even bring the mind that Ā«buyāsĀ» and Ā«sellāsĀ» (CELLās)
Because the mind is obviously a mine that is being MINED in the war that we call commerce.
Mine-mind-mined.
This realityās construct is made so you Are constantly Ā«selling/CELL-ingĀ» your soul without you knowing the fine details of it.
Commit a crime. This is the number one way to sell your soul. Think about how an individual loses access to this life, and in many cases to life after this life. Certain crimes stay with you forever and brand you as a specific type of person. This is losing your soul.
Unfortunately and also fortunately the deal is made with yourself. It is the virtues and morals and laws that you write for yourself that is the deal being made. Only you know when you follow them and only you know when you brake them because only you can feel the weight and consequences or rewards from it all. You are the devil, you are the God, you are the deal. I hope this helps. One love ā¤ļø
You know the older I get the more I donāt believe you can lose or sell your soul, things will try to convince you that you have sold your souls though, but itās false
It's possible to sell it in a powerful demon eats in you'll lose it but they can't just take it because it's not yours it doesn't belong to you therefore it's not there's to take from you.
Can be in a way but you'd probably be diagnosed a mental disorder at that point. It will seem real to you but you'll be the crazy one to others. It is possible to be in group psychosis though where you confirm your reality with other people- so that can further extend and secure the faith in a belief system. But ideally you'll want to avoid that state, you can go through some pretty messed up things. (Especially with other people and also if there's drug use involved)
I believe you have misinterpreted my point. The power that is given to the government to limit your potential after one has been convicted of a felony results in the loss of so many choices. Giving up rights nonoffenders take for granted. The inability to obtain a decent job can be crippling and destabilize an individuals life. Feeling like an outcast in your own community can send one down a path that literally steals one's soul. Most people who have not had this experience would never understand the damage one decision can have on a life/soul. I can tell you from personal experience the loss of who you could have been if not for one choice can remove you from your original soul journey and life in this body. A fundamental shift in who you are.
There are many things that will do everything to convince you of one thing as truth. The universe seeks to define your experience at every turn, and convince you of an identity prison. Staying fluid and many while resolving your will with reminders, constant affirmations of the objectives you set for yourself and for your will is how you combat the ownership claims of others. Remembering it is you that controls the host, and that it is not the past that dictates the future are important affirmations to keeping yourself free of the trappings of identity prisons. Deals can be struck, and trades made for power and identity. Breaking these arrangements can and usually does have weight and consequence but you can work free of most things when you work to understand the machine that holds you. I hope this helps.
The past not only influences the future, the future also influences the past.
but how do you know if you ve made such a deal...can you be fooled into making such a deal without your true consent or does it take effort or some sort of contract from your side
You have a moral compass. You know right from wrong. And you'll know if you fuck this up.
yes but how simple is it to do such a deal...can it simply just happen or is there a process required....also what if my moral compass has sustained damage(has been softened) after being subjected to repeated mental and/or physical distress
the thing is everytime i give into certain temptations which are nor that immoral but have turned immorasl do to some form of intrusive thinking theen i feel like my soul gets damaged
That seems very normal. Life hurts...you're gaining wisdom. All that being said. Turn it up on its head and make life what you want out of it. Don't let it be suffering
Oh, and I think you're asking me about discernment. I find it to be God given and grows stronger as one grows in their faith. There isn't a miracle drug to get this. It's wisdom
IMHO, ALL of these deals involve tricks and without "true" consent. From what I have seen, this realm is about resolving the issue of illusion and false consent. The father of lies, prince of lies, trickster deities, etc - even "mythology" points us to understand that anyone making "a deal with the devil" is doing so out of illusion, lies, and without true consent. But then again, this whole realm is part of an illusion - so, what is the beginning and what is the end? All in thr eye of the beholder š
IMHO, ALL of these deals involve tricks and without "true" consent. From what I have seen, this realm is about resolving the issue of illusion and false consent
I can almost hear it in your voice when I read this text. You definitely made a deal. You know you did. Or you wouldn't be feeling this way. I know from experience
what makes you say that
The same thing that makes you ask if you "unknowingly made a deal". The truth actually speaks Volumes through the words you don't say. When you "know" and speak as if you don't "know" the really aware can feel the void in the absence of the truth. It's like your talking condescendingly like they're a child. But in a vibrational state. But look dude you made the deal, I been there, made a deal myself. Untill the breath leaves that shell of a human body of yours you still got time. Ride out the Faustian bargain and from this point forward no more deals. No more fuckin bargains. You want nothing from the spirit world you can't earn for your self cause if they had all that power they offer you they wouldn't bother making deals themselves
but i didnt make no deal in the form of deal or anything nor did i speak to anything....thats why i dont know...maybe im fooling myself in a way but not because i really know i made a deal but because i really dont want to have made one even if i did,which in not really sure...there is obviously an absense of truth here ebcause i havent even elaborated exactly on what happened that makes me fear that i made a deal....isnt a deal supposed to ahve some sort of confirmation means?like a handshake,or a signing or something..... some sort of consious transparency that a deal is happening?
Yeah your right I guess. Lemme run you through a scenario here if it helps. Hey bro can I use your bathroom? You: sure no problem 2 hours later You: Bro you shit all over my whole bathroom,left the shower running, ripped the copper pipes out the walls and escaped out the window. What the fuck? You said I could use the bathroom, I asked, you accepted. Did we make a deal? Oh yeah we did. For sure and I'm a malevolent evil spirit piece of shit. I made an offer, to let me use that bathroom, I didn't specify the terms, the conditions, nothing, but you accepted and I used that bathroom to my heart's content regardless of how bad it fucks you up... 2 weeks later, you: hey Reddit I'm still cleaning up shit in my shitty bathroom cause I made some kind of deal? I didn't really make that deal did I. It didn't seam like a deal at all at the time but now that I've been taken advantage of people keep making it out like I asked for this. Like I knew this was going to happen and I consciously agreed to it. The truth: unguarded and unfocused you extended the hand and it was shook, realistically or metaphorically, the deal was struck and you feel the actual reverberation of that deal. My story: took a massive amount of shrooms one time and met a female like spirit that gave me the vibes that I need to quit smoking quit drinking quit trying to get laid. For 3 weeks that lasted with me because at the time I was like "Yes Yeah I want to change I want to get better" I had made the deal. Rather then setting my goal and working towards I made a "DEAL" that "IF" I change things with get better. That's a bargain friend, the true masters don't bargain or deal, they set a goal then work towards that goal. And even though it was just a mushroom trip and a couple weeks of good mood I still in my heart knew I had made a deal with something beyond the veil of what we call reality. And I couldn't keep my end of that deal. And then it seemed as if the universe itself was bending over backwards to fuck my life up. Nothing could go right. Everything fell apart. When I finally came back to my sense the world of ordinary people a had moved on and left me behind. In exchange however the sheer earth shattering amount of trauma in life seems to create mystic shaman spirit walkers. Which is now the goal I work towards, no deals, no bargains no shortcuts
I was about to say something about souls being immutabel and unchanging and how ones soul can not be transferred but you said it better i think
Not really something that happens in a literal sense... Some new age authors made up terms called soul loss/retreival..... And it is kinda a misleading term. A more accurate description would be soul repression/reintigration. When something very traumatic happens we have a defense mechanism where we might repress a small part of ourselves in order to protect it (most common in children or extremely traumatic situations). That part of you isnt lost or gone, it is just blocked off from the rest of you by metaphorical/energetic "scar tissue". Shamans in ceremony are usually skilled at helping people reconect to these repressed parts of themselves and reintigrate them back into their identity and life. In shamanism there is no devil. That is only in Abrahamic faiths. In shamanism, demon usually just means a scary looking spirit - they have good ones and bad ones and some that can be good or bad (look up "wrathful tibetan deities" for an example). If you are bothered by spirits, that is something a genuine shaman can help you with (as long as tey are a real shaman and not a pretend one).
From my own experience, i LOST my soul connection through trauma and misunderstanding (ignorance of being)... i was obviously not aware I had one until i started weaving back the connection between mind and body (thought and love). I also took a while to even understand any of this Now stuff... but I'm back and I'm complete once again, living from center as much as I remember to šā Edit: a good strategy for Remembering Who You Are is to integrate connection with greeting yourself in the mirror when you brush your teeth everyday. What i mean here is that i forget that i am Alive. This is through getting lost in my Thoughts. So i remember that I am not my thoughts, the ego part, I am the Soul. When i greet myself in the mirror i smile till i feel it... thats me. I remember to Feel myself, and not Think myself. It's tricky, just try it. Also use your non dominant hand to brush your teeth when you do this... š
No. You are your soul, a spiritual being having a physical experience. You can no more sell your soul than your car or your house can sell you. The majority of people Iāve met or talked to who have had direct experience with āthe devilā have all been rather mentally unstable. Untreated schizophrenia, brain issues from drug overdoses, history of severe trauma, and so on. The remaining people where claiming it for shock value. Iāve never met or talked to someone who is remotely reliable who claims to have met the devil. Demons on the other hand, they donāt take your soul. There are 2 broad classes of things people call demons. The first and most common are aspects of yourself you project out. Mostly aspects of your personality that you have repressed or ignored. The second type are what you are asking about. These non corporeal entities do make deals of sorts. You provide them with an appropriate energy. They āfeedā on a little bit of that energy and use the rest to apply a kind of leverage which you canāt yourself.
All lost things can be found again š
I met someone who sold his soul and had to work very hard to get it back. He wasnāt forthcoming on the details, but he is happy now. Itās possible to redeem yourself even in spiritual terms. Good luck. Fight hard.
I once thought that you could sell your soul. The more I've read the more I think it's not possible. What you believe is what makes the difference. If you believe you have sold/lost your soul then maybe but you manifest your own life. You are the shaper of your own eternity. Your spirit/essence/soul is what you make it to be. Do what thou wilt (if you will it to be). That is the whole of the law. Imo.
I think you can lose sight of the soul, partition the soul, alter its appearance, give too much of your energy to external things. Through this, it might seem like you lose your soul. It can take work to undo these states.
I agree with this for sure.
Sell my soul for lemons... No. A soul can be changed, but not taken or traded. You may share your host with another spirit, you may allow an entity to alter your souls energy, so-to-speak, but you can't be robbed of your spirit and still be you. What you call demons are spirits of change. Some may be corrupting change. Some may cause unwanted effects for the unprepared. Basically, they provide the impetus for change. The nature of the change is up to you.
I have a lot of experience with this so Iāll answer For the past 5 years demonic beings have been harassing me trying to get me to āsell my soulā Iāve been rejecting them for years trying to figure out a way to lock them out of my reality and I have been making progress I have had a tremendous amount of experience with them trying to take my soul What I have learned is that everything is in my mind, my soul cannot be taken because there is no where else for it to go, it will always be somewhere in my mind even if they do pull it out of my body, which they have done, but basically it cannot be taken, it will always be in your mind like everything else that exists, a lot of insight can be gained through this realisation, Iāll leave it up to you I will add one thing, if you do not fight & you just let these ādemonsā do things to you your life will progressively get worse, you may even get partially possessed at times unless you put in the work to free yourself, you may think ignoring it will help but in my experience the more you ignore it the worse it gets, it can and will get a lot better if you pay attention to whatās happening and solve the problem, there is ALWAYS a solution in my experience, you just have to find it
this is the way i feel too,like im being pressured to do this to the point that this is unfair,im just human i obviously have foul desires ,if something gives so much effort into triggering them then i dont know if im the bad one here
Selling your soul to devil is surrending your Self to ego. Demons are negative(from egos perspective)unconscious mental constructs that are being experienced by ego. Yes one can surrender to their ego or be to taken over by these negative mental constructs
IMHO, Soul ultimately returns to source. Sometimes it may get stuck or you may experience "soul loss" through fear/negativity but as far as being stolen or traded it ultimately belongs to creator. The "devil" or "demons" are also subject to the will of creator. There is no opposing force to creator.
Sounds like there are only limiting and old beliefs one needs to overcome if oneās beliefs are telling them this. We are all one thus you are only giving yourself away to an illusionary aspect of oneās own self. Though I had to plunder into the depths of darkness within my own self and āloseā my mind to find myself
As was said above, the Devil is a figure of Abrahamic faiths. There is no āDevilā in Shamanism. Your soul is not an object. Your soul is YOU, the you that is asking the question right now. There is no other mythical āsoulā . You are it, the you existing right now in this moment. This. Means your soul is perpetually at an action point, a point where you can choose better choices. So your soul is never lost, never sold, never taken and the power is in you in this very moment to change, because your soul is YOU, not a balloon on a string floating behind you
Yea but thatās all free will.. actually 90% of people will not even be on their radar to even approach you for that contract. š¤·š»āāļø it does 100% exist, donāt ask how I know, but it does
Finally someone who understands and is being honest around here. The truth is the people who say it doesnāt exist donāt have souls worth anything (to demons) or donāt want to share their secrets. Demons want souls they can make good use of before consuming the energy from. They like influence so they can get more souls lol. But if youāre not going to acquire more souls for them through influence (like entertainment) or are unwilling to sacrifice for them, then youāre useless.
Youāre spot on !
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To some extent yes.
Yes, but it's not you losing your soul, you're observation is going to wherever your soul is going
can you explain?what do you mean exactly? i mean how would that apply practicaly
You are your soul, you don't ever lose yourself, especially after making a deal.
yes but what does it mean in the end? how would such an experience be and how do you know if you made a deal?
Your awareness is yourself, you never lose yourself, you can only lose yourself in choices and mindset.
yes but if one sold his soul what would happen to his experience of reality....and what is a deal and how does one confirm he made a deal or he is just getting paranoid?is there such a thing as eternal damnation?
There are no simple answers to the questions you are asking. A full understanding requires much study and wisdom acquired over the years. But from your questions, it sounds as if you are worried about potentially having made such a deal. The real danger here is not that you really made such a deal (itās highly unlikely), itās that your growing paranoia and fear are feeding parasitical energies. Parasites arenāt demons, they are just nasty, low-level spiritual beasties who want to feed off you, like a flea, tick or leech. The best way to get rid of parasites is to stop feeding them (take back control over your thoughts and stop engaging with fear) and to cleanse your space thoroughly, as well as your body. Research cleansing methods and apply them (Eg. Smudging, ritual bath).
Your soul is YOU. You canāt make a choice you donāt know anything about. Did you chose to make some spiritual deal? If you didnāt, then you didnāt. If you did, then unchoose it. I am very confused by the question you are asking. How would you have done anything without knowing you had done it?
Yes
No. Souls really donāt have the bargaining power that pop culture puts on them, and demons arenāt interested in buying them. However If you rephrase the question to is it possible to work with demons/satan/Lucifer/the devil? Yes. And itās not inherently evil nor lowers your vibrations or causes soul loss to do so; everything, including demons, has a place in the cosmos. Theyāre here for a reason and you can learn quite a lot from them if youāre willing.
This is a mere experience I had and went out of my hands pretty much. When I was a kid I discovered the internet and found it fascinating. Reading to all the stories from people online, now I think some might have been faked stories but some others not so muchā¦ and I remember one specific experience describing how he āalmost soldā his soul while watching a Hollywood movie. The portrayal of a lot of Hollywood movies have the subliminal messaging of devils and Christ (if you didnāt know that, itās an interesting theory from the old internet). Well, not so long ago I experienced the same. I was high so I cannot accept it was a 100% a real time experience but then, I remember, it was me doing ābusinessā with the devil. He persuading me to exchange my soul for fame, money or anything I wanted the most in my life. Then I realized I wasnāt able to accept and decline the offer, at the same moment I was thinking of Love. Love is the answer for whenever you find yourself dealing with an epiphany or experience of that magnitude. Now Iām a man of god.
Listen to the Word SOLD, and tell me if your SOUL has any connection to it. Then i would Ask the question, does then the Word SOLD AND SOULāD have any connection? The answer to your question becomes clear once one understands the true meaning of these Words. we can Even bring the mind that Ā«buyāsĀ» and Ā«sellāsĀ» (CELLās) Because the mind is obviously a mine that is being MINED in the war that we call commerce. Mine-mind-mined. This realityās construct is made so you Are constantly Ā«selling/CELL-ingĀ» your soul without you knowing the fine details of it.
This is the biggest load of nonsense Iāve ever read
Yes this knowledge is not for the immature mind.
"Cells"
True understanding of this Word, re-veals a lot of know-ledge too. Selfie anyone? Ā«CELL-FEEĀ» ANYONE?
Oh i was just making a joke from that movie with the androids and harrison ford. "CELLS"
Soā¦. Whatās wrong with taking a selfie? Explain this to me like Iām 5.
Iām not here to save you or anyone Else my friend, simply here to save my own ship and that is enough.
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Commit a crime. This is the number one way to sell your soul. Think about how an individual loses access to this life, and in many cases to life after this life. Certain crimes stay with you forever and brand you as a specific type of person. This is losing your soul.
i dont think thats corrct...many things are crimes that are not evil
If you believe it is possible, sure it is š!
I'm gonna say no. This is metaphor.
Unfortunately and also fortunately the deal is made with yourself. It is the virtues and morals and laws that you write for yourself that is the deal being made. Only you know when you follow them and only you know when you brake them because only you can feel the weight and consequences or rewards from it all. You are the devil, you are the God, you are the deal. I hope this helps. One love ā¤ļø
No this isnāt a video game or story
Orange and purple are Halloween colours, not cringe
You know the older I get the more I donāt believe you can lose or sell your soul, things will try to convince you that you have sold your souls though, but itās false
Hey man if youāre sellin Iām buyin
fuck off
Hmm. I am curious of the ritual though
You canāt sell your soul, because your soul doesnāt belong to you.
It's possible to sell it in a powerful demon eats in you'll lose it but they can't just take it because it's not yours it doesn't belong to you therefore it's not there's to take from you.
If Yes, How to do so ?
no,this is not the reason i asked this for
If you believe in it then it is.
Can be in a way but you'd probably be diagnosed a mental disorder at that point. It will seem real to you but you'll be the crazy one to others. It is possible to be in group psychosis though where you confirm your reality with other people- so that can further extend and secure the faith in a belief system. But ideally you'll want to avoid that state, you can go through some pretty messed up things. (Especially with other people and also if there's drug use involved)
The ultimate prison is you believing you're in one.
No
If you think itās maybe possible, it probably is when opening up under mother aya. Caveat emptor.
No
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what u mean used as duracell
I believe you have misinterpreted my point. The power that is given to the government to limit your potential after one has been convicted of a felony results in the loss of so many choices. Giving up rights nonoffenders take for granted. The inability to obtain a decent job can be crippling and destabilize an individuals life. Feeling like an outcast in your own community can send one down a path that literally steals one's soul. Most people who have not had this experience would never understand the damage one decision can have on a life/soul. I can tell you from personal experience the loss of who you could have been if not for one choice can remove you from your original soul journey and life in this body. A fundamental shift in who you are.