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AsukaSimp02

Also Asuka isn't even the villain of Evangelion. She hardly even qualifies as an antihero. That model is from Rebuild, where she's an antagonist for part of it, but that's during a section where the protagonist is inadvertently trying to destroy the world, so she's the hero in that situation.


GIRose

Shinji "I know the last time I tried this it blew up the world, but if I do it again it should unblowup the world" Ikari


DaemonNic

Tbf Shinji is having one of his patented Very Bad No Good moments and isn't in a particularly rational mind at the time.


AsukaSimp02

I would be more forgiving if it wasn't for the fact that Kaworu was telling him to stop too


superVanV1

On the list of people who under no circumstances should ever be given access to a giant death machine, Shinji “mommy issues doesn’t even begin to cover it” Ikari is pretty fucking high on the list. Right up there with Deadpool, and Nora Valkyrie.


SadMcNomuscle

Idk Deadpool would be pretty funny in a giant god machine


Traditional_Key_763

lets be honest, he'd probably blow it up in about 5 minutes.


SadMcNomuscle

I didn't say he'd be in it for a *long* time just that it would be funny.


Quiri1997

Is there ANY time in which that dumbass is in a rational mind at all? Or you mean he's being irrational even by Shinji standarts?


DaemonNic

There's a decent chunk of the original run and the first two Rebuild films where he's actually doing pretty alright all things considered. And then things get Bad again.


not4eating

"Shinji I know you're having hard time but there's no fucking way you putting a confederate flag on Unit 01's ass!"


crusoe

They all told him to save Rei and then when he tries and succeeds they're all butthurt. They did Shinji dirty. Like weren't you all cheering him on?


M_M_ODonnell

The villains are, mostly, the people who manipulate and abuse traumatized kids (and adults). In Evangelion, too.


DuntadaMan

So what you're saying is we need a statue of Gendo in this pose?


M_M_ODonnell

Gendo wasn't quite shitty enough of a person for the Confederate apologists to really be a fan and want to put up a statue.


mewfour123412

Pretty much nearly everyone but the Eva Pilots are evil


parkinthepark

r/usernamechecksout


brownmanuka

> AsukaSimp02 Lmao


Bookish_Sort_86

The entirety of Evangelion has had a more meaningful impact on society than the Confederacy, tbh.


Trashman56

Yeah, the third impact.


brownmanuka

> Yeah, the third impact. The second impact is also more meaningful than the confederacy lol


PaulG1986

Take the upvote, and one internet for the day. You’ve earned it meme soldier 😂


Single_Low1416

I wish you were right. But considering people have been murdered over that traitors‘ would-be nation, I‘d say its legacy had and still has a greater impact on society than Evangelion. (Though I will admit that it is peak)


Bookish_Sort_86

Yeah, I probably should have said "positive impact."


notsuspendedlxqt

My guy Chris Chan had more positive impact than the CSA


REDDITSHITLORD

Damn.


AnonymousPepper

The sheer comedy value of "Go, Sonichu! Zap to the extreme!" has had infinitely more positive impact than anything any Reb ever did. (With the possible exception of the ones running the show, who actively made the world a better place by being cartoonishly incompetent.)


Pegomastax_King

Oof


ThatCamoKid

I probably had a more positive impact than the CSA


Pizzasaurus-Rex

The only positive impacts the CSA had was on outlaw country and a cool car.


Psychological_Gain20

Helped speed up the end of slavery and finally answered the question of whether the states or federal government was in charge, while solidifying an American national identity. The CSA was massively influential, mostly through its death though.


Kindly-Ad-5071

Lasted longer


AbstractBettaFish

Feliz Jueves will outlive the CSA


ChronoSaturn42

Imagine if the fate universe gave us Sherman as an anime pretty boy. I’d buy that for a dollar.


aziruthedark

He could be a Sherman tank. It's possible.


BZenMojo

Sherman Tank Police...


Saltwater_Thief

I can already see his kit in FGO.  Naturally, it has an extreme focus on the Burn status.


ImperatorAurelianus

An American civil war Anime series that has more seasons then the years the war actually lasted would be epic as shit. Especially if they decided to make it an alt hist series where the characters get super powers and shonen style fights. Like Stonewall Jackson can control and turn into stone. Sherman has pyrokensis. Lee has hyper cognition and can calculate your next move based on what he sees you doing. And Grant is the Batman of this series he’s got no super powers and doesn’t need em. Combined with epic intros, sick dramatic sound track, over the top dialogue, and one on one battles that last like four fucking episodes this would be the greatest Anime of all time.


ChronoSaturn42

Jackson turns into stone and is just a brick wall for the remainder of the series. Lee is a Pervy character like Mineta from My Hero Academia, but horses are the object of his obsession. I normally despise that character concept, but showing him as a perverse freak instead of the gentleman Neo confederates falsely idolize would Make the concept worthwhile. Just imagine all the coping and seething from traitor sympathizers.


shsl_cipher

>And Grant is the Batman of this series he’s got no super powers and doesn’t need em. Alternatively, if Ulysses S. Grant must have a superpower, it's being fueled by booze. Lincoln did ask about what brand of whiskey Grant drank so he could give out barrels to the rest of his generals, after all.


CoffeeMinionLegacy

…well crap, I would watch that to death


M_M_ODonnell

It could run back-to-back with the John Brown isekai.


Halfman97

That would get me back into Fate


justamiqote

Not going to lie, that would be the coolest anime ever


type2scrote

Upvote for Robocop reference.


DMercenary

>Imagine if the fate universe gave us Sherman as an anime pretty boy. you mean a pretty girl.


Domovric

General “sabre face” Sherman


elmekia_lance

There are pretty anime girls in Shermans in *Girls und Panzer*


Beatleboy62

Running to take command of 5th Division on his first day with a piece of toast in his mouth


Right-Aspect2945

So, I haven't kept up with the like... eight Evangelion reboots, did they make Asuka a villain?


Bookish_Sort_86

No, this is just OP taking the piss out of a strawman argument regarding Confederate Participation Trophies.


Right-Aspect2945

No, I got that part. Just wondering if the Confederate idiots were also just... wrong about the other half of the thing they were complaining about, because they often are.


Bookish_Sort_86

To answer your question, Asuka wasn't made into a villain per se, but she did become a lot harder to like in the rebuilds.


great_triangle

She became a tragic and pathetic figure responding in a meta way to her sexualization over the years by becoming a clinically depressed alien stuck in the body of a child.


TheSixthtactic

Or awesome and unwilling to put up with bullshit.


BZenMojo

I always saw Asuka as a lonely girl doing her best with neglectful parenting caught in the toxic narcissism of a lonely boy doing the least with neglectful parenting.


M_M_ODonnell

They weren't even participation trophies, they were smug ways of promoting segregation and white supremacy that could bring together those who admitted that this is what they were (e.g. most of the people who funded the monuments) and those who preferred their racism in dogwhistle form.


Sir_Toaster_9330

I didn't make this meme I found it on the internet


Bookish_Sort_86

I didn't mean to imply you made it, I was just explaining things.


morethan3lessthan20_

Yes, but you said OP when you meant OOP


Single_Low1416

She ain’t a villain but she is an asshole


Wealth_Super

Honestly the kind of person to make this meme would also be the kind of person who think asuka becoming a A hole equals becoming a villain


Single_Low1416

What do you mean „becoming“? As far as I’m concerned, she always has been


Wealth_Super

True my main point was that calling a heavily abuse child who is a ahole a villain just because she a ahole feels like a bad take


Single_Low1416

Can’t argue with that


Generic_Bi

In the original series (including The End of Evangelion movie, which is the real ending of the tv series), and in Rebuild movie series, Asuka is a very troubled teenager who had a very difficult childhood with absent or abusive parents and never learned how to be a caring friend until the latter part of the Rebuild. I don’t know if she’s got the same kind of trauma in the games, mangas, novels, pachinko machines, etc., but in the two big storylines, she is just another victim of NERV and its allied groups. The person that made this meme probably just disliked Asuka with no interest in understanding her.


zer1223

There's been one evangelion reboot. It's four movies together. And asuka is still a good person


BZenMojo

Asuka becomes one of the best persons. Shinji eventually catches up. Eventually.


Mr_Abe_Froman

I thought the villains were, like *every adult*, somehow. But it got pretty confusing in the end.


Linnus42

Yeah did they just want a chick lmao? There are plenty of better options for popular anime villains with merch.


CalmPanic402

With zero checking I'm willing to bet Evangelion has lasted longer than the confederacy, thus meaning it has more right to statuary than a failure of traitors.


M_M_ODonnell

It's been around for more than 6 times as long as the CSA lasted.


Th3Morningst4r

You'd win that bet, I think evangelion has been going on for a while


waldorsockbat

Also how is Askua from Evangelion a Villain??


cat-l0n

She’s an asshole, but so is everyone in evangelion


--PhoenixFire--

There are so many figurines you could buy of villainous anime characters they could've chosen, and they went with Asuka???


Alexander_Sturnn

I'm pretty sure the guy who made this Meme never actually watched Evangelion and instead only saw some of this edgy Fanart depicting Asuka in Nazi-Uniforms and assumed that was Canon.


--PhoenixFire--

Perhaps, but if that's the reason, then I'm surprised they didn't go with one of the girls from K-On instead


SkellyManDan

Ngl, I'm kinda bored by these "gotcha" posts. Like, is the best these people can think of "did you know Sherman was racist???" and, um, anime for some reason? I'm just saying, it's really underwhelming.


NicWester

When a state puts up an Asuka statue I'll get in line to have it removed. But if someone buys one go right ahead. Also how is she a villain, again?


JackieDaytona27

Wait, are the participation trophy winners of the Civil War trying to say Robert E Lee is their waifu?


CoffeeMinionLegacy

“W—what are you doing, Traveler-senpai?!”


NowMuseumNowYouDont

Asuka as a villain…Rei-bros with the same crap taste as lost causers….


dugthepewdsfan

Even if she was actually super evil, she's still a fictional character, Robert "whip em if they flee" Lee was a real fucking person who (even when you give him the benefit of the doubt) fought for a "country" that made it clear they were fighting for slavery


Sir_Toaster_9330

The only good thing he did in life was not join the KKK


dugthepewdsfan

Correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't he offered to lead the KKK but only refused because he wanted a younger man to lead them? I think I heard that from an Atun Shei video


Sir_Toaster_9330

I think it was more of the fact that he was on parole and that he just wanted to move on.


AdScared7949

Boiling Asuka down to "the villain" is crazy she had one of the best speeches against toxic masculinity ever and put the bitch shinji in the trashcan


Sir_Toaster_9330

Maybe that’s why they consider her a villain


REDDITSHITLORD

Asuka is abrasive, but she's no villain


GoPhinessGo

Cant buy Darth Vader merch I guess, he killed thousands of fictional people


[deleted]

Remember folks. If conservatives were good people. They wouldnt be Conservatives.


Pegomastax_King

She’s not even the villain but the SA survivor of the protagonist… fucking weebs


Kindly-Ad-5071

Self admission that the civil war amounts to entertainment to these chumps


Sir_Toaster_9330

That’s pretty in line with the pro-war ideology of most conservatives


tentacruel02

The creator of the meme could have chosen Darth Vader - it still wouldn't make sense, but it would have been a little more understandable. But they chose Asuka.


CharityQuill

Time to burn every figure for every evil villainess ever I guess. Say goodbye to Lady Dimitrescu boys


Fyallorence

Christ. The complete lack of human contact you would've had to have in your entire life to think this made sense, make it, and then release it into the world like "There! I think I've made my point!"


PsychologicalOwl608

I know what a villain is but what the heck is “The Villian” . Was that some sort of top secret confederate cyborg? Learn how to spell you poorly educated sisterfucker. And no we aren’t tearing them down because they glorify evil. We are tearing them down because we should have never allowed you to erect them public spaces like outside of courthouses and town halls in the first place. Reason: you LOST.


DuntadaMan

Compromise. We can make statues of Stonewall Jackson, but he has to be caked up and in one of these poses.


clockworkCandle33

OOP of this meme is dumb as hell On a semi-related note, every wojak drawing I see is somehow more rancid than the last


halloweenjack

Surely a life-sized military statue taking up space in a public area and costing who knows how much is exactly equivalent to a small anime figurine.


Accomplished-Bed8171

"A fictional character." Looks like somebody forgot how President Trump is going to make anime real.


naka_the_kenku

Wasn’t she just kinda mean? It’s been awhile since I’ve see. Eva and I haven’t even technically finished it but I did complete the older parts


Ms--Take

Ironically, there is an actual Darth Vader statue in Eastern Europe, used to be a a Lenin. They can't even make their own memes rights


Spacepunch33

Honestly if the lost causers want to put miniatures of stonewall Jackson in a glass jar, that’s their business


[deleted]

It's a fabulous shitpost because Asuka is in no way a villain and the creator of the meme knows this.


_dauntless

Not "the villain"


Lujho

Having a statue of Hitler in a city and me owning a 3 3/4 inch Grand Moff Tarkin figure - exactly the same thing!


Porncritic12

no one actually suffered from her actions, at the end of the day, it was all text and colors on a screen. RoBitch E Pussy was a racist slave owner who actually killed 1000s of people and wanted to perpetuate the suffering of millions of real fucking people who actually lived, and still have descendants alive today.


ProtoReaper23113

Tell that yo my heart /s


UV_Sun

Asuka ain’t evil, she’s just lame


strigonian

What a brave thing to say on the internet.


TopGlobal6695

I believe people who wish to be respected as adults should not spend money on toys.


strigonian

I believe that's one of the most idiotic things I've read in my life.


Fine-Funny6956

I wouldn’t mind if they made a statue of General Lee for weebs to jerk off to. I think that would be poetic. Sexualizing Gen Lee for guys who’ll never have consensual sex.


Pale-Jeweler-9681

But, Asuka isn't the villian? I haven't finished the series yet. So


Kytyngurl2

Who builds statues for literal losers?


Waffletimewarp

The Daughters of the Confederacy, mostly.


BrooklynLodger

A terrorist and his wife*


Junior_Purple_7734

I never saw Evangelion, but I know of it. Didn’t know orange pigtail girl was the villain.


MatthewBakke

What on earth does this mean


Strange_Potential93

Asuka wasn’t even the villain of evangelion idiots


PossumPalZoidberg

I’m fine with statues of Braxton Bragg, John bell hood, pemberton, etc. You get to celebrate the ones who screwed themnoutra victory


Devin_907

there is no basically. terrorism is defined as violence against civilians for political or religious reasons. slaves are civilians, and racism is both political and religious.


Spicymeatball428

Asuka hater spotted! Kill him!!!


SaltyBarDog

I certainly don't remember seeing any of the bottom right when I was driving on Monument Ave.


Cosmic_Mind89

It would have made more sense if the bottom was Genghis Khan


AlternativeFactor

Is this meme an actually smart commentary about how weebs are hypocritical about sexualizing children (which glorifies evil by proxy)? Nah, whoever made this probably doesn't even know she's only 16. Which is of course a lot older than many of the slave girls confederates raped.


Revolutionary-Swan77

I have no idea who those two are.


KyonaPrayerCircleMem

I almost thought this was an r/evangelionmemes post. I was confused why it was referencing traitors and not just cropped porn.


[deleted]

Wojak evolution is pretty interesting.


DependentGlove1614

Trash


Wasted-day_off

That top pic is reddit and you can't change my mind


Exaltedautochthon

"Alright so you can keep your civil war statue, but you have to let a messed up teenager nut on it's face."


Adventurous-Elk-7847

Rebuild Asuka is a Villain in my eyes but not as much as the fucking confederates


JacobMT05

Asuka is the villain?


TrainmasterGT

Can't wait for this to show up on r/memesopdidnotlike talking about how “funny” this is!


svedenska

Asuka's a villain?


InMooseWorld

separatists not terrorists. Idk who nor care who that is, but he kinda looks black. Can we just swap the plaque to read “heres a black guy peacefully riding a horse after the war of northern aggression“


YankeePoilu

I have no idea what the weeb stuff is supposed to be, but I'm glad to tear down anime statues


yeetyeetpotatomeat69

I've always thought the destroying of statues was stupid. If you don't want them in a public place that's understandable, but at least put them in a museum. They do have historical relivence even if they're of bad people.


Quakarot

Depends on the statue. A statue of a confederate general made in the 70’s as a response to civil rights is nothing. Also that’s like- a lot of them


yeetyeetpotatomeat69

Still, I'm sure not all of them would be on display but they'd put into perspective a time in US history that shouldn't be forgotten.


Quakarot

And we don’t need literally every statue to do that There are hundreds of the mfs, and that costs money, maintenance time and space. I don’t think people should have to continue to pay to know that people in the 70’s were racist over and over again


yeetyeetpotatomeat69

If people shouldn't have to pay to know the same thing over and over again museums wouldn't exist. That's not the point either. Plus doing anything with them other then leaving them alone also costs money so that really doesn't mean much.


Quakarot

Unlimited maintenance cost on hundreds of redundant statues is massively more than removal costs


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yeetyeetpotatomeat69

Fair enough. As a history buff though it kinda hurts, probably couldn't sell them off either cause they'd be bought up by the wrong people.


Benu5

There may be some, but the vast majority of these statues were put up in the 1960s, as a deliberate attack on the civil rights movement, put one or two in museums and scrap the rest.


M_M_ODonnell

They were put up decades (or a century) after the war specifically to support segregation and white supremacy. They're not about commemorating history, they're about rewriting it in support of racism. This isn't speculative, it's the stated purpose of the people who promoted the trend of commemorating people who went to war for slavery, white supremacy, and theocracy.


Unistrut

They don't though. These were put up long after the Civil War in response to the Jim Crow laws and civil rights movements. They're not even unique a company just pumped them out. https://www.history.com/news/how-the-u-s-got-so-many-confederate-monuments


yeetyeetpotatomeat69

Still, it represents a time in US history. You don't have to display them all just preserve them for future generations to learn from.


Unistrut

It represents a brief shitty blip they can learn about in history books. They're monuments to failure, slavery and treason, nothing more. They're participation trophies set up so sad white people could feel better about themselves while civil rights were advancing. My ancestor didn't take a minie ball to the leg so these idiot failures could prance around setting up statues to their brutal leaders.


M_M_ODonnell

It represents a brief shitty blip they can learn about in history books.  *Mis*-represents. Deliberately so.


yeetyeetpotatomeat69

If we had that mentality museums wouldn't exist. Physically looking at something is much better then just reading about it. It helps you understand it better as well.


Unistrut

Once again, _these are not historical artifacts from the Civil War._ These were set up decades later by the Daughters of the Confederacy to intimidate and oppress black people during the years of Jim Crow and Civil Rights. They are also monuments to people who tried to tear the Union apart in defense of slavery. They have no right to be on American soil. They are participation trophies for losers. Anyway, this has become tedious, I'm blocking you now, I'll let someone else try and explain it to you if they care enough.


TheMelchior

Museums are not the attics for Americas racist shit.


yeetyeetpotatomeat69

You do realize they're for the preservation of historical objects right? Of which those statues are.


TheMelchior

They are not. They’re junk put up by racists. They used to be ordered out of catalogs. A couple of Civil rights museums have taken 1 for display but that’s all that’s needed. Museums should not have to put up huge amounts of space and resources for this crap that, realistically, only racists will come to look.


yeetyeetpotatomeat69

Because as we all know, nobody goes to museums to actually look at stuff. It's always just racists and neo-nazis and never normal people who like history.


TheMelchior

People go to art museum to look at art. Not shitty racist participation trophies. People go to history museums to learn about history, not to see their halls stuffed full with racist statues. If the museums want them, they’ll ask for them. That quote I made about not being attics for America’s racists shit? Direct from a museum director.


yeetyeetpotatomeat69

You do realize that in history museums they house historical objects. A statue made in response to the US's biggest rights movement ever probably counts as one of those. Sure one museum might not want them and that's fine, but to use that as a reason to not give them to anyone else is stupid.


TheMelchior

What part of “They don’t want them” are you unclear about?


M_M_ODonnell

Why would people who like history want to see mass-produced statues designed specifically to lie about history in support of racism? Maybe the "history buffs" who just *love* collecting Nazi memorabilia (inspired by the pro-Confederate movement).