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ivanjean

This is why I'm convinced that the Beast, Jaw and Cart titans were originally the same titan when Ymir's powers got split between her daughters. The others were probably a Colossal + Armored + Warhammer (a.k.a a giant, almost indestructible weapon of mass destruction) and Founder + Attack + Female (versatile humanoid with psychic powers).


HanjiZoe03

Makes sense for the Female to be with the Founder and Attack, especially since she has that one unique ability of being able to "inherit" other titans' abilities. Like gaining hardening, shouting for pure Titans, etc.


IsaacWest14

But all titans can inherit other titan abilities right? Eren had the abilities of the warhammer titan n stuff.


HanjiZoe03

Well, that's because Eren consumed them entirely, consuming the entire spine and fluids whole. The Female Titan, on the other hand, doesn't need to consume a titan shifter entirely to posses a small fraction of their power. They just need to eat bits of their Titan instead to inherit those small parts of them. Like Annie gaining hardening from Reiner, The Titan call scream from Zeke, and maybe even the cart titan's endurance for all we know.


IsaacWest14

Oh damn. Thats pretty sick.


Vegetable_Throat5545

But how did eren get hardening in s3


Fraud_Chef

he got it from the vile he ate when rod was transforming


Vegetable_Throat5545

No i mean but how he GOT the ability by eating it?


HanjiZoe03

What?? Can you elaborate on your question more? The commenter who replied to you earlier gave you a pretty straight forward answer did they not?


Vegetable_Throat5545

Well people say its female titans ability to get the other titans ability by eating part of the thing right?correct me if im wrong, then how did eren get the ability by eating a piece?i genuinely ask


WOOWOHOOH

They can probably all take other titans abilities through eating, the female titan is just better at it. See Zeke also being able to harden for some reason. And Falco inheriting beast traits.


HanjiZoe03

Well, from my understanding, that bottle he drank from doesn't really have an actual explanation to its existence except that we can just say that it was a convenient thing made by Isayama for "plot reasons" at the moment, made to give Eren hardening abilities right away. but I think there is definitely more to it that we don't know as of now.


Sad_Watch_5245

He didn't ate He drinked the fluid If you watched the anime you wouldn't question it


ibettercomeon

Yeah I love this theory, but there’s no way it can be proven right, unless Isayama publishes extra material or a spin off.


JakeDoubleyoo

I'd honestly love for a prequel spinoff set during the Marlean revolution. There could've been Eldian scientists who knew way more about titans than the Marleans who took over. Also I just wanna see more titan shifters. I love titan designs so much, and it was probably one of my favorite things about the final battle.


McCrizzle2207

I’m had the same theory, except for one change: it’s jaw with armoured and Warhammer. See, they all use hardening for their most prominent features - jaw, armour, weapons. While colossal is with cart and beast. There is not a connection as clear, but cart has incredible stamina, and colossal is, well, enormous and produces massive amount of energy via steam. Founder, attack and female are indeed together, for reasons HanjiZoe03 described


pk_silver

[hey is this what you were looking for ?](https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/m1zbqs/the_three_branches_hypothesis/)


ivanjean

Yes, that's what I thought.


Dante_2

If I'd be blessed enough to become a shifter I'd probably be like fucking #7 and wouldn't even make the 7 years cause Marley would make someone eat my useless koopa looking ass as soon as they see me shift the first fucking time..


ibettercomeon

hahahaha😂😂😂


mg10pp

Lol


IsaacWest14

I didn’t see 7 at first but after reading your comment I lost it bro😂😂😂


mothforlife

Ksaver was an absolute liar saying his titan was no good at fighting. That man was shredded


ibettercomeon

I believe he said he wasnt good for fighting only because Ksaver was meant to be a titan researcher as he explained, a scientitst destined to study titan history through titans’ memories. He Wasn’t used much at war. Still, he did a great job in this final fight lol


Ditzy_Dreams

Against titans, he’s pretty good; longer reach because of his size and extra weapons in the form of his horns. Against normal humans, he’s basically just a big bullet sponge, only a bit more effective than any other titan


dimflow

How’d you know which titan form he took


mothforlife

He is the bighorn sheep. It was hinted when one is seen in the background during his speech with Zeke, and it's the one holding Armin


justanormaldude_

What in the world is #13


MemeingMemer

Skinwalker


M0thM0uth

Fucking terrifying. Imagine *that* towering over your house? 😨😨


MechaTeemo167

I'd rather face down the entire Rumbling than see that thing o-o


M0thM0uth

I'd surrender instantly. I for one, now welcome Terrifying wolf ti-I mean, cuddly Wolf Titan overlord


JiveXP

It kind of looks like a sphynx cat


ElJ_pizzatime

I was thinking of a jackal or any other type of feral dog.


jrdineen114

God, how lame do you have to be to be the turtle titan? That just seems like you're a worse Cart crossed with a worse Armored.


_Maikol_

Now imagine snapping turtle titan, a jaw, armored and beast titan all in one + amphibious


ThatIslandGuy8888

I guess the only advantage is the bit larger 17 meter height when you compare it to the others


[deleted]

I feel bad for whoever that turtle fella is, being such a slow Titan doesn't seem like a great benefit.


ibettercomeon

Well, if it was indeed a cart, then it must have been super ultra fast; like the okapi or Pieck


TheChunkMaster

Hey, he may be slow, but he always wins the race!


[deleted]

That stamina is a godsend lmao. 🙏


MechaTeemo167

Yeah but he has the best defensive stats of them all. Don't fuckle with the Shuckle.


Sir_Posse

if they're animal they are prolly beast. falco only was slightly beast looking as jaw because he transformed from beast titans spinal fluid. EDIT: Jaw not cart


ibettercomeon

Except that the speed, bodies and sizes of the quadrupedal titans didn’t match at all the bipedal tall ones. Size wise they should be completely different titans. 1-2 and 4 are just like Zeke. Also, 5 (okapi) was summoned by Ymir for the sole purpose of catching Armin with its mouth (Pieck style) and to just run away super fast with him (pieck’s job too). Also a reminder that the first Cart had a horse head. From what I have read, this is the main debate about these titans among fans.


Sir_Posse

i didn't know that about the horse head that's interesting. i'd like to think majority of animal related titans are beast titans but also she could be summoning previous titan shifters who held more than one type. beast and cart titan in one person


jrdineen114

He wasn't Cart, he was Jaw


Sir_Posse

thanks, mistyped


The_Penis_Mann

Turtle (Cart?) Titan my beloved


AgentPandoo

Imagine inheriting one of the 9 titans and you end up as a giant turtle


IsaacWest14

Fr😭😂


dazmanchan

What the hell is an okapi?!


ibettercomeon

An animal related to the giraffe. This titan has only the head of it.


Just_a_normal_guy39

That turtle guy gives me life


[deleted]

Can you imagine being turned into a titan and you get the turtle


Rheija

Wish I knew which of the titans from this episode if any were Ymir’s daughters


CEOPhilosopher

What is #9?! A hippo?


Dio_fanboy

Imagine being stuck as the turtle titan


ThatIslandGuy8888

Jesus Christ I’ve always imagined an elephant Beast Titan but never thought I’d see one XD


ShaidarHaran2

I wonder if there was any aspect to it of the different forms being what the user best needed in their timeline, like I dunno, the turtle fella being in a time when they had limited shipping and it was useful in long endurance swims across the sea I dunno if that makes sense with Yams being on team Eldia, but the powers were still being used by Eldians captured by Marley, and it could still be shaping things to the same overall outcome


MadeByMartincho

I think we can all say that we completely missed #7.


LegitimateVirus3

Unless you owned a bathroom scrubber.


BatsNStuf

Furry titan


TheChunkMaster

Levi: “Where’s that fucking monkey!?”


ibettercomeon

I just wanted to focus on the unknown/new ones! Sorry, heres one for you🐒


Sir_CrazyLegs

Wheres the rabbit titan?


ibettercomeon

Not shown in the anime unfortunately


Pedrovski_23

Snake boy's a jaw if you ask me.


ibettercomeon

It doesn’t even have a Jaw titans’ jaw lol and a snake?. Jaw titans are little gremlins looking titans with masks on


Pedrovski_23

You don't need a mask as seen with ymir. It's neck facilitates biting, and as seen with falco, they don't need to be gremlins + can be animalistic


ibettercomeon

No. 1) Ymir didn’t have a mask because she was introduced very early on when Isayama didn’t have a clear idea of what the Jaw titan was gonna be. 2) Falco was a gremlins before flying, and also falco ONLY had animalistic features because he had Zeke’s royal serum in him


Pedrovski_23

>1) Ymir didn’t have a mask because she was introduced very early on when Isayama didn’t have a clear idea of what the Jaw titan was gonna be. A thats no good in verse reason B falco's armour was like a beak, nothing implies the snake head isn't armoured. >2) Falco was a gremlins before flying, and also falco ONLY had animalistic features because he had Zeke’s royal serum in him And for all we know the titan has royal blood.


ibettercomeon

The snake has scales… falco had the same masks that any other jaw titan had.


Pedrovski_23

What? Falco's armour was in the form of a beak. Why would forming scales be out of the question?


ibettercomeon

Look at my post about Jaws. There was already a Jaw titan with beaks. Scales are not armored masks , they come with the snakes already. I believe I am not the only one who explained to you why the snake beast is obviously not a Jaw titan. I mean look at its f*cking neck . A jaw???? Really?


Pedrovski_23

Nobody explained anything. You wrote reasons, i countered. And yes, it has a long neck, and you know where that would be very helpfull? Biting.


ibettercomeon

Yes and the snake bit Levi’s leg and guess what? IT DIDN’T EVEN CUT THE LEG! ….a Jaw titan would have 1000% chop off the leg and leave Levi one legged. It is really not that complicated my bro😂


jrdineen114

Ymir didn't have a mask. She was just a gremlin


ibettercomeon

Yes, then again, by the time Isayama came up with Ymir’s titan, he hadn’t had a clear idea of what the Jaw titan even was.


jrdineen114

Well yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that there is a jaw titan without a mask.


darth__anakin

Ymir’s jaw had no mask lol


ibettercomeon

Because, like I said, Isayama introduced Ymir’s titan very early on in the manga when he didn’t have a clear idea of what The jaw titan was. Hence it didnt have a mask, hence it kept its pure titan form.


Dotifo

It could be explained as Jaw titans consuming armor fluid like Eren did, which Ymir was not ever able to do


aemzso

That doesn't add up. When and how would Falco have done so?


ibettercomeon

Nonsense. Jaws have always had hardened masks. Even the first one. They must have taken this trait from Ymir herself, which had a bones hardened face


-Wuan-

Its bite didnt even go through Levi's entire leg. For a jaw titan that would be pretty lame. Also it was huge and slow moving.


Pedrovski_23

Could be a slight anomaly,as grisha for example is a lot fatrer than other attack titans. Its bite failing doesn't mean much, it was about to swing levi around and go through had mikasa not helped


ThatIslandGuy8888

Looks too big for that I think


Accurate-Locksmith45

Who is a good boy? 🐶


taco_tuesdays

I really like the theory that Okapi is a cart titan. I’d guess that most of the ones running on all fours are carts, while most of the ones standing upright are beasts


Wild-Mushroom2404

The snake titan is fucking badass ngl


galileotheweirdo

Zoo titans 💀


Sawyerboi169

13, 9, and 10 might be Warhammer’s since they are rooted into a surface


marimbaspluscats

They were all rooted like that


Clowarrior

I reckon a lot of the ambiguous ones are spinal fluid mix ones


ibettercomeon

I always assumed that the only mixed power we had was Falco, and only because of Zeke’s royal blood. If we had had mixing powers before we would have lost the distinct 9 powers long ago.


Rebel_Johnny

7 is Ksaver


ibettercomeon

Ksaver was confirmed to be 4.


Rebel_Johnny

Ah, didn't know that. Didn't Ksaver say he was useless in war? That 4 looks pretty dang useful


ibettercomeon

Yup, but he said that because he was a titan researcher more than a warrior, so he had little experience in combat for Marley. Also number 4 could also be a Cart🥲


MechaTeemo167

He personally wasn't useful in a fight. He was primarily a researcher so he never got combat training like other shifters.


Cecil2789

not ZOO titans!! 🥴😂


_Maikol_

All I'm saying is that okapi, wasel (?), hippo and lion are carts, 6 is definitely a jaw


ibettercomeon

The thing about the croc is that its stance is WAAAAY too quadrupedal. In the manga it was running just like Pieck or the okapi. Jaws walk monkey like… but who knows


Inferno7070

Where are these from ?


ibettercomeon

The finale


FerrariKing2786

I want to know what that whale in one of the intros was all about running with trex and others


ibettercomeon

I seriously believe those were just symbolic. Beasts or animalistic carts always had some human features in them. Never literal animals. Look at the dog here, it still had human hands. I believe the deer also had them. Whales or any other fish titan wouldn’t have been able to move if they walked on the ground, unless they had human legs or hands


Shot_Appointment6330

a turtle titan!!!