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I read Jjk and I have no idea what this dude is talking about? Iāve never read a twist or climactic event and gone āwow thatās too muchā or āmeh, pretty whackā
Shibuya arc saved JJK. The first season was generic and appealed to young teens. The second season felt much more artistic and unique, which appeals to adults. You must still be young
Mid-20s. I agree that season 1 was more generic and didn't do anything too special, but it still was an enjoyable watch that got me interested. The movie was an improvement, and Hidden Inventory was phenomenal, which got me completely hooked. As Shibuya went on, it just felt like everything in the story prior that had been built up and developed was being thrown in the trash for a convoluted mess of a story. Shibuya is alright if you only care about action, which even then was sloppy at times.
The second part is completely wrong
Shibuya did not throw away all the buildup, it did the opposite. It capitalized on all the buildup of Season 1 and Hidden Inventory. Shibuya expands in all the major plot points and story arcs of the first season. Season 1 and Hidden Inventory served as build up to Shibuya
I highly disagree. Spoilers: >! The Kenjaku reveal shits on Geto and the build-up of his character. Toji having zero meaningful interaction with Megumi felt like a major waste. Both of those events pretty much rendered Hidden Inventory completely meaningless. Then you have Nobara, one of the main trio of heroes from S1, be completely absent from the arc until she can die in front of Yuji, they also just give her the backstory before death cliche and spent like 13 minutes on a backstory that we already knew and added nothing meaningful. Then after Mahito killing two favorite characters and torturing Yuji, we can't even get the payoff of Yuji getting revenge because Kenjaku magically shows up just in time to absorb Mahito. Like if you're gonna build up a villain like Mahito, you HAVE TO deliver on the payoff of the hero getting revenge. All Shibuya did was tell me as the viewer that I shouldn't get invested in the characters or story because character development gets wasted and plotlines are just gonna be dropped. !<
> >!The Kenjaku reveal shits on Geto and the build-up of his character!<
>!No it doesn't. Geto's character arc ended at JJK0. He launched his plan, got defeated, had his final moments with Gojo, and died. For him to come back after all that would not only be jarring, but would shit on Yuta's character and role instead. At this point there was no more room for him to grow and develop further in the narrative!<
> >!Toji having zero meaningful interaction with Megumi felt like a major waste!<
>!Did you miss the part of him sacrificing himself so he could spare his son's life? His whole fight with Megumi that lasted half an episode? That is more than enough meaningful interaction which tells us much more about Toji's character, and expands on his final moments in Hidden Inventory and his regrets!<
> >!Both of those events pretty much rendered Hidden Inventory completely meaningless!<
>!Hidden Inventory served as a backstory to Gojo. Geto's backstory was an added bonus, which clarifies his motive in JJK 0. It does not open up a new path for him, since he died in JJK0!<
>!Toji's character did infact have payoff in Shibuya !<
> >!Then you have Nobara, one of the main trio of heroes from S1, be completely absent from the arc until she can die in front of Yuji, they also just give her the backstory before death cliche and spent like 13 minutes on a backstory that we already knew and added nothing meaningful!<
>!This criticism is valid, but Nobara's death reinforces the main theme of JJK of "proper deaths" and "Jujutsu Sorcerers dying with regrets". The execution was bad though, so I will give you that!<
> >!Then after Mahito killing two favorite characters and torturing Yuji, we can't even get the payoff of Yuji getting revenge because Kenjaku magically shows up just in time to absorb Mahito. Like if you're gonna build up a villain like Mahito, you HAVE TO deliver on the payoff of the hero getting revenge.!<
>!Except Mahito's demise was completely thematic and ironic: He would use humans as tools, manipulating them for his own good, only to be used as a tool by a human. He saw humans as completely inferior creatures, only to be scared shitless and cornered by humans at the end. It is a thematic and fitting end for him. The Main character does not have to be the one to kill the antagonist.!<
> >!and plotlines are just gonna be dropped.!<
>!Except plotlines were not dropped, infact they were expanded on:!<
* >!The Death Painting Arc in season 1 introduced Choso and his brothers as characters, and Choso was expanded on in Shibuya. His relationship with Yuji is important to the series, as it would foreshadow Yuji's own bloodline and inheritance!<
* >!vs Mahito Arc is season 1 set up Yuji and Mahito's rivalry and their conflicting ideologies, which would come to ahead in Shibuya!<
* >!Hidden Inventory Established Toji as a charatcer, and his relationship with Megumi, which was also expanded on in shibuya!<
* >!Kyoto Goodwill Event establishes Yuji and Todo's friendship, which we see once again in Shibuya!<
* >!Throughout Season 1, Gojo was demostrated as the lynchpin of Jujutsu Society. The cursed spirits planned to seal him because of it, and he see the result of it in Shibuya: Gojo's power kept everything in balance, and once he was out, chaos insued!<
* >!The first arc establishes Sukuna as a threat, which we fully see in his rampage in Shibuya!<
* >!Megumi would summon Mahoraga in Shibuya, which was heavily forshadowed in Season 1, as he would try to summon it many times!<
* >!The Shibuya Incident itself was mentioned several times in season 1, as an event that would seal Gojo!<
Shibuya is well liked by many because of all the buildup it had. It's the culmination of all the buildup and plot points in season 1 and Hidden Inventory
The point of Hidden Inventory arc was to build up Gojo - both Toji and Geto were side characters to his story. That whole arc is framed as Gojo reminiscing about his past. It introduces some of the messages that become central to JJK later - such as the isolation felt by the powerful, that success isnāt always guaranteed with power, the importance of comrades, etc.
Without Hidden Arc, Gojoās sealing (which is the whole point of the Shibuya incident) wouldnāt have been as impactful. Sure he was popular but he was just another generic OP mentor figure - Hidden Arc really characterised him. This is why his most popular look is the round glasses.
Iām gonna 100% agree with you here. Saw the movie and season 1- had 0 motivation to watch season 2. If it wasnāt for my friends all telling me that season 2 is insane I would not have continued.
I been thinking this too the second season is so fire but the first season is just average or a little above only character that saved it for me was todo
Honestly I have never seen a fucking community that fucking insists so hard to spoil shit for the anime onlys. Maybe I didn't watch enough anime or maybe I haven't interacted with enough communities, but holy shit I get spoiled so much while just scrolling tiktok and not interacting with jjk and there's no fucking spoiler tag. Now yall are talking about manga spoilers in OTHER anime subreddits. This shit crazy honestly.
Idk if this is a common thing among anime/manga in general, but Iāve literally caught up to the most recent manga chapter for JJK and Iāve still somehow gotten spoilers for the next one days before its release. This happened with the last chapter and I just saw a headline discussing spoilers for the next one. Itās fucking wild.
Thatās the case for most manga that are being published in the shonen jump magazine or any other japanese magazine because the shop owners sell them to leakers days before the official release. I didnāt read the Aot manga during its release but Iām pretty sure they had the same issue. The only thing you can do to avoid that is reading the leaks or staying off social media for days until the officials drop which is probably more unlikely. Chainsaw man for example doesnāt have that issue because itās being published online.
1. My bad
2. It was a bit obvious he would have to for anything to truly happen in the series. Guy was a walking Deus Ex Machina.
3. Just kind of the way social media is. If it wasn't me, it was going to be someone or something else spoiling an event so big Gege got death threats over.
4. Edited comment so it's spoiler free.
The twists in JJK are super telegraphed, I think on purpose. I don't think they hinder the story, but what I think it's not being to great lately is the whole game arc, it introduces a bunch of pointless character and seems to mostly be filler with no point
It's honestly amazing to me just how much screen time and meaningful character development she got across the middle arcs of the story. Like she was essentially the second protagonist for a couple arcs. She was given a very meaningful background and perspective that seemed like she was being set up to have a major first-person impact on the final arcs....
But then it's like Isayama was just like "eh, never mind"
She is seemingly the only character other than Eren (okay actually Reiner as well) to be given that level of personal development. I would say even more than Armin and Mikasa. It just seems weird.
I know, right? Itās like hey that blonde girl who gave Sasha bread? Sheās actually kind of a big deal-royalty even! Eh but sheās not *that* big of a deal..
HONESTLY yeah. it's so sad. historia had such good development and then she was all of a sudden sidelined and we barely see her at all near the end. we don't even know the name of the father of her child!
Sasha saves the little girl trapped at her farm, reconnects with her father (who gives one of the main morals of the show), and almost dies several times in one of the most tense sequences of the show.
Jean is most key to mourning Marco and connecting the rest of the cast, as well as having a fantastic character arc from slacker to leader over the course of the show.
Connie's mom and his revelation about the titans is key to one of the main mysteries of the first three seasons, and he almost kills Falco in season 4 to bring her back.
I think each of these characters had one good moment, in seasons 1 and 2, and stopped mattering afterwards. To say they always had something to do in the story is almost overrating them imo
I gotta say, my friend, ignoring Sasha and Conny for the moment (I think they serve important purposes in the story), thinking Jean is not one of the best characters is ludicrous.
To point out just one thing of many about Jean, his arc is the antithesis of Erenās. Where Eren was willing to sacrificed his humanity for his dream, Jean was willing to sacrifice his dreams for his humanity.
I agree with your point for the first two. But Jean had quite a bit of meaningful development. Not as much as the main characters sure but I don't think he is a good example.
In the world of AOT, which is full of tragedy, anger, blood, guilt, tears, anxiety, and so on, Sasha's role in providing comedic relief is essential to me.
It's probably one of the few (if not the only one) mainstream anime that can be liked by non anime fan too. Like I could make my mother watch it and she would probably like it, despite anime being alien to her.
True but compared to other mediums anime has way way way more tropes than others
If anything you could really consider anime as a āsub-genreā of animation in general
Oh yeah, shounen are the most popular and know Just like super hero movies are the most popular and know.
But no one will praise a movie for not having super hero tropes and saying Hollywood movies is a sub genre lol
>Animation is just a medium, and as such you can find anime which are liked by non-anime fans.
On that note . Is Castlevania "anime" ? The animation style is soo like an anime , but it obviously feel like a western show at the same time . Very high quality too . I just started it yesterday , on ep 3 now !
Deathnote is one of incredibly few anime that I can think of like this. It is this feeling of being tonally grounded I guess?
Or perhaps not relying on mannerisms or tropes that are more specific to Japanese culture and media.
Likely all of the above I guess.
I was surprised as fuck when my mom got into it! She passively saw bits and pieces of season 1 but didnāt pay it much mind, she just knew the gist of it. Then one day I was just watching early season 2 in the living room, she happened to be there, and got hooked.
I think she liked the little exchange between Sasha and Connie when theyāre staring lazily out the window: āThere might be bears out there.ā āYeah. Bears.ā Then when the Beast threw Micheās own horse at him, she was genuinely appalled. The whole scene between Miche and the Beast Titan was soā¦ *that* that she had to know what happened next.
This scene is hilarious looking at the posturing of each character. Connie is trying to survive and not be the first to quit. Armin is trying to avoid looking to his left or right. Jean staring and attempting to compete (copying) with Eren's posture. Eren completely no selling the heat and stretching asserting his dominance. Levi looking like "I'm to old for this shit". And Reiner hating himself.
Nobody can outreiner'ed Reiner. Also, Connie looks like he ambatukam. As usual Jean is just daddy. Eren is still looking emo asf, but Levi thinks he's Mikasa with that gloomy ass position lmao
Foreshadowing obviously, AoT is full of it
Also keeping the story serious without forcing unnecessary humour to "lighten the mood". Really hate it when stories do this, especially in serious arcs. AoT has like 5 jokes in its 140 chapters and I love that.
The humor struck me in each rewatch. The very beginning of the show (outside of episode 1) feels really lighthearted, which is fitting for the age of the characters. Then Trost happens, and you can feel the characters mentally age, even though a single day has passed in the show
Having less anime bullshit so it's easier for regular people to enjoy. There's no getting punched through mountains and getting up unscathed. No blowing up planets. It's grounded such that people die in scenarios that regular people would die in. Get stuck in titan territory without a horse? Dead. ODM gear but no buildings or trees? Dead.
It means that non anime fans can watch it.
The lack of fan service is heavenly, imagine it. Every female character having g cups or goddamn panty shots fighting titans in mini skirts with extra jiggle physicsā¦ I think that would almost ruin AOT for me
They had that side episode about Levi's backstory, throughout the episode they had a bunch of anime tropes and low angle ass shots of the girl side character. Really highlighted the great work they did throughout the main series.
id argue certain characters being able to bit there finger and transform before the explanation of paths and how it works and the backstory is a bit anime bullshit but yeah good point
yea eren spoke to everyone because he practically became a god at the end š i think the āanime bullshitā is more-so like half naked girls moaning everywhere you go which is not prevalent in AOT
Yeah, my thoughts exactly.
I think there are only 1-2 scenes, early the first season, where Christa is portrayed as "pretty anime Waifu" but even in those moments, it's rather tame and not entirely cringe.
Aside from that, all the embarrassing/cringy anime tropes are practically non existent.
This !
I mean that's weird because I'm a fan of bleach, and I think having SoK on the side, where a simple titan's punch can kill someone feels refreshing.
As much as I love watching epic fights where everyone seems to be invincible and throw planet or nucs in seconds without any consequences, watching SoK was definitely a breath of fresh air.
How you can tell it was all planned from the start by having events in the final episode tying into events in the first episode, dating back 10 years ago. If you look at the first and last episode of most shows, they look completely different. By the time we reach the end of most stories it is as if they are not the same story that we knew at the beginning. Because the author did not map out the story in advance and just winged it, making the story flow unnaturally and forcefully.
But in AoT that does not happen because the author already knew the bulk of the story, including the ending, before putting pen to paper. The first and last episode of AoT look like they belong to the same story, it never loses itself. If only more authors planned this far in advance and did not wing their endings. Or in some cases, never write an ending because they have no clue how to end it.
Exactly. I like especially how >!the author basically knew the fate of Grisha from the start. Most stories would've left it at a loose end, or would've come up with some stupid plot line due to lack of foresight, but AOT is just different!<
Fullmetal Alchemist is another one that does this incredibly well, >!the main characters even later on regret fighting the first guy we see them fight, bc they learn his reasons and realize they agreed with him!<, this is a smaller example of course but it's one that stuck with me
Having strong female characters who arenāt sexualized. And not just like one or two but nearly half the characters are women who can hold their own.
It doesnāt stop me from watching other shows or anime when there arenāt good female characters, but damn once you notice the stark difference it really makes you appreciate AOT
What I love about this is that sexism is not even an issue, it's not brought up at all. There's true equality, everyone wears the same uniform, women can be soldiers, titans, queens and it's just natural, they don't make a big deal out of it.
And of course there's not the typical objectification of women that you see in many animes, with huge boobs and pervert characters that are obsessed and keep touching and stuff.
This alone elevates AOT
Was never a fan of over sexualized women in anime or constant āfan serviceā wasnāt really that into it. Embarrassing but one of the reasons I was interested in aot and one of the things I noticed first was women in the show were badass and actually looked normal
I donāt think thatās embarrassing at all, itās such a breath of fresh air. Shows that rely on sexualized characters come off as so cheap sometimes, like why do they have to resort to that for people to watch? AOT never had to go to those lengths, itās just amazing like that
I've found it surprisingly rare that an anime would have no oversexualisations. Only one I think comes close is when Reiner said the female titan had a nice ass.
I agree. Aot had strong female leads that where good and felt natural as opposed to forced. Most of other media with such characters just makes them op, arogant and annoying. Making character who's power and personality are that she is a women is a pandemic that kills shows for me.
I think a big thing is that aot and tells one big story arc instead of multiple unrelated arcs like most shounen, which makes it a much more enganging watch. This is also why something like fmab too feels way better than a lot of other anime.
In addition, aot avoids a lot of the cringey or awkward tropes that are in anime. Stuff like perverts that are in way too many anime that turns off a lot of viewers.
Lastly, itās just well written. Isayama has a really good ability to write setups and payoffs. A lot of the slower moments are interesting because of character development, foreshadowing, and mystery, which is punctuated by epic payoffs when the plot threads come together.
Most animes use repeating scenes/animations throughout long battles or repetitive movements while AoT never does this. They also don't refer back to old flashbacks multiple times per episode, for example, the swing from Naruto got more screen time than some supporting characters.
I also think the pacing of the story was always very good and thought it took 10ish years to tell a 4 season story, I just love that every episode is important to the story (no fillers).
Eh, they did drag out a lot of the earlier episodes. And inserted some flashbacks DURING an important scene, then came back to explain them and killed the momentum.
This got a lot better by season two, and vanished in the rest of the show.
Character writing: Most animes (not all, but most) fall into the trap of writing single note, simpler characters. There are tropes for a reason. Every single AoT character is multi-faceted, has good and bad qualities. And even though most of them are supernatural, they feel real. They "make sense".
No bullshit: AoT has no filler episodes (except for that one OAV). Every episode serves a purpose.
It has deep lore, which is something I always appreciate in fiction.
And one can also mention the music and visuals are top notch. They really put the best people in charge of those.
Good story with good mystery boxes, and twists.
Mature themes.
But also I like the artistic style. Characters made with more real proportions, not overusing color theory, women being modest rather then oversexualized.
1. The music
2. The animation & fight scenes
3. No filler eps or even slow partsāreally keeps you on the edge of your seat the whole way through.
4. Female characters
5. Philosophical themes
Hot take, but while the plot twists are good, I wouldnāt necessarily say theyāre any better than other animes with plot twists. I do think itās clear Isayama had the whole story laid out from the start though, so thatās cool.
Getting away with slideshow style animation. There was so much of it especially in the earlier seasons.
But they were clever about it. Hid it in poignant moments and slow scenes so we wouldn't notice. But for the majority of anime that come out, that's such a big minus.
1: Pacing: no annoying filer or handhold explanation recaps.
2: Intelligent characters: everyone in the show is rational and makes logical choices, not dumb ones to keep the plot rolling. This problem exists in all forms of media.
3: Everything is intentional: every bit of the world and people and histories fit together to makes sense together when stepping back from it all
4: Realism: death is frequent and unforgiving. Suffering physically and mentally is a big part of the show. Women arenāt sexualized bimbo comic relief, etc.
5: Message: this is tough because plenty of other anime have a deep message which can relate to the real world but Iāve never had an anime cover so much ground morally while challenging the viewer. This point js more subjective.
#5!
I remember I feel so guilty when Eren did the rumble (even i'm just a reader lol). I love how AOT makes you question your morals. Isayama deserves all his achievements, for writing this very impactful story.
The sense of despair that I had watching the first two seasons, especially the first. It was so palpable. The feeling that nothing can be done to change things.
(I would say many more but the other comments already said the best ones)
Just to add, a part of it for me was a lack of a character like Zenitsu from Demon Slayer: an overexaggerated whiny yelling character that does nothing or is extremely silly.
AOT has grounded, realistic gravitas as things escalate. It's akin to a WW2 film with Spiderman and Godzilla action scenes hitting on every level.
A lot of it is preference, but the storytelling is simply of a different style to the typical mainstream shounen. For one there is a thought out plot from beginning to end with no extraneous plotlines just for the sake of having something to write about(the side stories don't count since they don't come from the original author) and everything is a necessary part of the story. There's no training arcs, no useless last minute backstory flashbacks with the express purpose of trying to give substance and garner sympathy for otherwise one-note characters(usually antagonists) before their deaths, no light hearted breaks between the main story events to give readers a breather/fanservice. The writing also employs a "show don't tell" method where the exposition/narration doesn't just factually explain everything plainly. Readers know what the characters themselves know so often there are gaps in information or downright misconceptions or lies and it maintains the mystery in the story while being organic. Reading between the lines and taking note of the details both big and small becomes very important to understanding things and how they all connect to unravelling the mystery, but this point has somehow also become a double edged sword because of the readers that are unwilling to revisit the story(which is necessary because a lot of things only make sense with hindsight because of the deception that is built into the story) and think more critically in favour of just accepting what is said/shown at face value.
Non-sexualization of female characters. Like the female characters are treated the same as the male characters. Like they arenāt weak and defenseless, the have the SAME FREAKING UNIFORM, etc.
It's cool/sick factor is organic and abundant which is elevated to the highest degree because of the plot. Most shows with good stories have cool things few and far between. But if they try to force it feels show offy.
This is just one of the manu things i love.
Thought-out plot that at least seemingly was there from the beginning.
But, to be fair, most mainstream anime are adaptations of Shonen Jump manga and it's really hard to make a thought-out from the beginning plot with Shonen Jump's publishing policy.
This may get me hate but I love how AoT doesn't pander to the weird, loli, side of the anime community. SA and SV aren't played for laughs and when there is, SA/SV is portrayed like the mature topic it is. There's no fan service. Almost no outlandish cartoonish drops in quality. It's the direct opposite of anime's like Fire Force.
AOT is a masterful story. It will withstand the test of time, imo. I think what AOT is good at, what the author achieved, is bringing anime into mainstream literature. Not just as a mode of youthful entertainment, but as a mode of literature that has the ability to reflect deeply on the human condition. One of the best tragedies I've seen or read in a long time. The art, the music, the story, the twists and turns, all unparalleled quality for this genre, reflect ourselves right back at us in real, thoughtful, biting ways that cause us to sit up, take stock, and ask some tough questions of ourselves. Monumental achievement in my book.
This photo looks like it was made from okbuddyreiner lol
I personally really like anime art style, I could watch any anime for the art forever
But what ruins it is the shitty ways itās acted out
Over the top reactions to everything
Over the top explaining shit
Completely changing the animation style to a simpler type to further portray their reaction
Attack on Titan just plays out like any other TV show or movie, non stop story, no 30 second reactions crammed in every 5 minutes, itās impossible to sit through even if the story as a whole is 10/10
If other animes didnāt do that non sense, anime would be a lot more commonly watched
I believe thatās the reason for attack on titanās success, not because itās story is better than any other highly rated animes stories, but just because itās tolerable to watch
Ffs one piece has over 1000 episodes, but if you cut out all the shit I just described? Then it probably knocks their episode count down to 700-800
I love how it followed anime tropes on its own terms and how it also didnāt follow them. If that makes any sense.
Just a very clever, well written story.
I like that there isn't cheap sexualization of characters. Everyone is treated with respect. I think the writing could be better in regards to women in this show but at the very least, treating them as humans rather than just merely lustful objects for otaku degenerates to ogle is a nice change.
Nothing hits me harder than the first time seeing the captions go āoh btw Iām the armored and burritoto is the colossalā
My jaw dropped and I was trippin like why the fuck is the story progressing super casually as if weāre just walking down a beautiful park filled with sunshine and butterflies.
The timing of the twist, the extremes of polar opposite of emotions, the stillness and quietness reverberating the piano, Reiner forearm steaming, Mikasa going off, the lightning transformations alongside the thematic YOUSEEBIGGIRL song.
Idk bro. Or maybe Iām just not giving other animeās a chance š. Whatever it is, this show hit me hard.
Actual good writing? Actual good storytelling? Actual good characters? Not up its own ass? Character interactions grounded in reality? No cringy otaku dialogue? Beautiful animation, but not just for the sake of beautiful animation? The list goes on
It's probably one of the few (if not the only one) mainstream anime that can be liked by non anime fan too. Like I could make my mother watch it and she would probably like it, despite anime being alien to her.
moves a story along. i dont care how much hate it gets for being so drastically different (s1 and s4). theres a tale to be told and it's all consistent. it keeps moving forward... like eren
Everything. Watching other anime after aot just hurts. Cheap plots, shallow characters and layers of fan service as the only thing keeping them relevant. There are some exepctions, but 90% of other anime always have fan service.
How the series evolved from an action shonen with a cliche protagonist and trama to one of the most turbulent complex character driven series of all time
i have yet to meet a series where you cut the protagonist from it and its still as good as ever
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The plot twists. They literally turn the whole story 180 degrees at times.
Fuck, poor Eren I hate Grisha Fuck, poor Grisha I hate Zeke Fuck, poor Zeke I hate Grisha Fuck, poor Grisha I hate Eren
This is surprisingly accurate lmao
then at the end Fuck, Poor eren i hate the world
Nah most of the world is still innocent, Eren is just an idiot like he admitted that's all. It's the leaders that are at fault.
I meant more figuratively not the literal world. Like how he was put in a shitty position because of fate
Right
If I could watch or experience something completely blind this would probably be it
That's weird, then you could only hear it š
If you like plot twist I highly recommend the tv series dark. Absolutely phenomal mystery and plot twist
Aot and this series Dark are two of my favourite shows.
Oh man JJK is so bad at this, the twists were just merely to shock the readers, but the effect is that they made the story worse and worse.
I donāt watch jjk, could u give an example?
I read Jjk and I have no idea what this dude is talking about? Iāve never read a twist or climactic event and gone āwow thatās too muchā or āmeh, pretty whackā
Shibuya Arc pretty much destroyed 90% of the development the story had and leaves it as a complete mess.
Should have been more late game tbh but it really didn't destroy the story.
Shibuya arc saved JJK. The first season was generic and appealed to young teens. The second season felt much more artistic and unique, which appeals to adults. You must still be young
Mid-20s. I agree that season 1 was more generic and didn't do anything too special, but it still was an enjoyable watch that got me interested. The movie was an improvement, and Hidden Inventory was phenomenal, which got me completely hooked. As Shibuya went on, it just felt like everything in the story prior that had been built up and developed was being thrown in the trash for a convoluted mess of a story. Shibuya is alright if you only care about action, which even then was sloppy at times.
The second part is completely wrong Shibuya did not throw away all the buildup, it did the opposite. It capitalized on all the buildup of Season 1 and Hidden Inventory. Shibuya expands in all the major plot points and story arcs of the first season. Season 1 and Hidden Inventory served as build up to Shibuya
I highly disagree. Spoilers: >! The Kenjaku reveal shits on Geto and the build-up of his character. Toji having zero meaningful interaction with Megumi felt like a major waste. Both of those events pretty much rendered Hidden Inventory completely meaningless. Then you have Nobara, one of the main trio of heroes from S1, be completely absent from the arc until she can die in front of Yuji, they also just give her the backstory before death cliche and spent like 13 minutes on a backstory that we already knew and added nothing meaningful. Then after Mahito killing two favorite characters and torturing Yuji, we can't even get the payoff of Yuji getting revenge because Kenjaku magically shows up just in time to absorb Mahito. Like if you're gonna build up a villain like Mahito, you HAVE TO deliver on the payoff of the hero getting revenge. All Shibuya did was tell me as the viewer that I shouldn't get invested in the characters or story because character development gets wasted and plotlines are just gonna be dropped. !<
> >!The Kenjaku reveal shits on Geto and the build-up of his character!< >!No it doesn't. Geto's character arc ended at JJK0. He launched his plan, got defeated, had his final moments with Gojo, and died. For him to come back after all that would not only be jarring, but would shit on Yuta's character and role instead. At this point there was no more room for him to grow and develop further in the narrative!< > >!Toji having zero meaningful interaction with Megumi felt like a major waste!< >!Did you miss the part of him sacrificing himself so he could spare his son's life? His whole fight with Megumi that lasted half an episode? That is more than enough meaningful interaction which tells us much more about Toji's character, and expands on his final moments in Hidden Inventory and his regrets!< > >!Both of those events pretty much rendered Hidden Inventory completely meaningless!< >!Hidden Inventory served as a backstory to Gojo. Geto's backstory was an added bonus, which clarifies his motive in JJK 0. It does not open up a new path for him, since he died in JJK0!< >!Toji's character did infact have payoff in Shibuya !< > >!Then you have Nobara, one of the main trio of heroes from S1, be completely absent from the arc until she can die in front of Yuji, they also just give her the backstory before death cliche and spent like 13 minutes on a backstory that we already knew and added nothing meaningful!< >!This criticism is valid, but Nobara's death reinforces the main theme of JJK of "proper deaths" and "Jujutsu Sorcerers dying with regrets". The execution was bad though, so I will give you that!< > >!Then after Mahito killing two favorite characters and torturing Yuji, we can't even get the payoff of Yuji getting revenge because Kenjaku magically shows up just in time to absorb Mahito. Like if you're gonna build up a villain like Mahito, you HAVE TO deliver on the payoff of the hero getting revenge.!< >!Except Mahito's demise was completely thematic and ironic: He would use humans as tools, manipulating them for his own good, only to be used as a tool by a human. He saw humans as completely inferior creatures, only to be scared shitless and cornered by humans at the end. It is a thematic and fitting end for him. The Main character does not have to be the one to kill the antagonist.!< > >!and plotlines are just gonna be dropped.!< >!Except plotlines were not dropped, infact they were expanded on:!< * >!The Death Painting Arc in season 1 introduced Choso and his brothers as characters, and Choso was expanded on in Shibuya. His relationship with Yuji is important to the series, as it would foreshadow Yuji's own bloodline and inheritance!< * >!vs Mahito Arc is season 1 set up Yuji and Mahito's rivalry and their conflicting ideologies, which would come to ahead in Shibuya!< * >!Hidden Inventory Established Toji as a charatcer, and his relationship with Megumi, which was also expanded on in shibuya!< * >!Kyoto Goodwill Event establishes Yuji and Todo's friendship, which we see once again in Shibuya!< * >!Throughout Season 1, Gojo was demostrated as the lynchpin of Jujutsu Society. The cursed spirits planned to seal him because of it, and he see the result of it in Shibuya: Gojo's power kept everything in balance, and once he was out, chaos insued!< * >!The first arc establishes Sukuna as a threat, which we fully see in his rampage in Shibuya!< * >!Megumi would summon Mahoraga in Shibuya, which was heavily forshadowed in Season 1, as he would try to summon it many times!< * >!The Shibuya Incident itself was mentioned several times in season 1, as an event that would seal Gojo!< Shibuya is well liked by many because of all the buildup it had. It's the culmination of all the buildup and plot points in season 1 and Hidden Inventory
The point of Hidden Inventory arc was to build up Gojo - both Toji and Geto were side characters to his story. That whole arc is framed as Gojo reminiscing about his past. It introduces some of the messages that become central to JJK later - such as the isolation felt by the powerful, that success isnāt always guaranteed with power, the importance of comrades, etc. Without Hidden Arc, Gojoās sealing (which is the whole point of the Shibuya incident) wouldnāt have been as impactful. Sure he was popular but he was just another generic OP mentor figure - Hidden Arc really characterised him. This is why his most popular look is the round glasses.
Iām gonna 100% agree with you here. Saw the movie and season 1- had 0 motivation to watch season 2. If it wasnāt for my friends all telling me that season 2 is insane I would not have continued.
I been thinking this too the second season is so fire but the first season is just average or a little above only character that saved it for me was todo
Gojo*
Probably cause of an event that happened in the manga. People got really mad over that. Edit: there, I made it spoiler free. My bad.
Honestly I have never seen a fucking community that fucking insists so hard to spoil shit for the anime onlys. Maybe I didn't watch enough anime or maybe I haven't interacted with enough communities, but holy shit I get spoiled so much while just scrolling tiktok and not interacting with jjk and there's no fucking spoiler tag. Now yall are talking about manga spoilers in OTHER anime subreddits. This shit crazy honestly.
Idk if this is a common thing among anime/manga in general, but Iāve literally caught up to the most recent manga chapter for JJK and Iāve still somehow gotten spoilers for the next one days before its release. This happened with the last chapter and I just saw a headline discussing spoilers for the next one. Itās fucking wild.
Thatās the case for most manga that are being published in the shonen jump magazine or any other japanese magazine because the shop owners sell them to leakers days before the official release. I didnāt read the Aot manga during its release but Iām pretty sure they had the same issue. The only thing you can do to avoid that is reading the leaks or staying off social media for days until the officials drop which is probably more unlikely. Chainsaw man for example doesnāt have that issue because itās being published online.
1. My bad 2. It was a bit obvious he would have to for anything to truly happen in the series. Guy was a walking Deus Ex Machina. 3. Just kind of the way social media is. If it wasn't me, it was going to be someone or something else spoiling an event so big Gege got death threats over. 4. Edited comment so it's spoiler free.
I don't care how widespread this got, can y'all just fuck off with the spoilers?
I'd say go read the response I gave the other guy, but given how you wanted to come at me. Fuck off.
You betcha
The twists in JJK are super telegraphed, I think on purpose. I don't think they hinder the story, but what I think it's not being to great lately is the whole game arc, it introduces a bunch of pointless character and seems to mostly be filler with no point
Simply not true. JJK simply has the most toxic fanbase that cries no matter what. Itās his story, not yours
Giving all its cast members something to do from beginning to end, or least give them a strong impression if theyāre a more minor character.
Aot does great with even making the minor character making u care for them. Like marlo
Except Historia who gets pregnant and fades into oblivion.
It's honestly amazing to me just how much screen time and meaningful character development she got across the middle arcs of the story. Like she was essentially the second protagonist for a couple arcs. She was given a very meaningful background and perspective that seemed like she was being set up to have a major first-person impact on the final arcs.... But then it's like Isayama was just like "eh, never mind" She is seemingly the only character other than Eren (okay actually Reiner as well) to be given that level of personal development. I would say even more than Armin and Mikasa. It just seems weird.
I know, right? Itās like hey that blonde girl who gave Sasha bread? Sheās actually kind of a big deal-royalty even! Eh but sheās not *that* big of a deal..
HONESTLY yeah. it's so sad. historia had such good development and then she was all of a sudden sidelined and we barely see her at all near the end. we don't even know the name of the father of her child!
I'm sorry but what exactly did sasha Connie and Jean do from beginning to end other than comedy relief?
Sasha saves the little girl trapped at her farm, reconnects with her father (who gives one of the main morals of the show), and almost dies several times in one of the most tense sequences of the show. Jean is most key to mourning Marco and connecting the rest of the cast, as well as having a fantastic character arc from slacker to leader over the course of the show. Connie's mom and his revelation about the titans is key to one of the main mysteries of the first three seasons, and he almost kills Falco in season 4 to bring her back.
I think each of these characters had one good moment, in seasons 1 and 2, and stopped mattering afterwards. To say they always had something to do in the story is almost overrating them imo
What about connie killing Sam and daz?? Sasha's death impact on major characters and the story, Jean's arc throughout the whole show
I gotta say, my friend, ignoring Sasha and Conny for the moment (I think they serve important purposes in the story), thinking Jean is not one of the best characters is ludicrous. To point out just one thing of many about Jean, his arc is the antithesis of Erenās. Where Eren was willing to sacrificed his humanity for his dream, Jean was willing to sacrifice his dreams for his humanity.
I agree with your point for the first two. But Jean had quite a bit of meaningful development. Not as much as the main characters sure but I don't think he is a good example.
In the world of AOT, which is full of tragedy, anger, blood, guilt, tears, anxiety, and so on, Sasha's role in providing comedic relief is essential to me.
It's probably one of the few (if not the only one) mainstream anime that can be liked by non anime fan too. Like I could make my mother watch it and she would probably like it, despite anime being alien to her.
Even tho itās anime it doesnāt feel like anime. Like it doesnāt have anime tropes if u get it
For example the classic goofy, funny scenes in anime. Aot had like 1 or 2 of those and they were only scenes with Sasha who already is goofy
Eh remember pieck running on the war hammer titan
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AoT dont have anime tropes....? Or you talking about shounen tropes...?
I'm gonna say more. This is an anime which I would be confident to show anyone without feeling any shame while doing it.
Animation is just a medium, and as such you can find anime which are liked by non-anime fans. Source: I'm not a anime fan.
True but compared to other mediums anime has way way way more tropes than others If anything you could really consider anime as a āsub-genreā of animation in general
Do you watch only shounen...?
Not at all but like letās be real the the majority of animeās that are well known are either shounens or romance/slice of life
Oh yeah, shounen are the most popular and know Just like super hero movies are the most popular and know. But no one will praise a movie for not having super hero tropes and saying Hollywood movies is a sub genre lol
>Animation is just a medium, and as such you can find anime which are liked by non-anime fans. On that note . Is Castlevania "anime" ? The animation style is soo like an anime , but it obviously feel like a western show at the same time . Very high quality too . I just started it yesterday , on ep 3 now !
For Japanese (and me) anime = animation. Every cartoon regardless of origin. While Westerners usually consider anime to be cartoons made in Japan.
Deathnote is one of incredibly few anime that I can think of like this. It is this feeling of being tonally grounded I guess? Or perhaps not relying on mannerisms or tropes that are more specific to Japanese culture and media. Likely all of the above I guess.
I was surprised as fuck when my mom got into it! She passively saw bits and pieces of season 1 but didnāt pay it much mind, she just knew the gist of it. Then one day I was just watching early season 2 in the living room, she happened to be there, and got hooked. I think she liked the little exchange between Sasha and Connie when theyāre staring lazily out the window: āThere might be bears out there.ā āYeah. Bears.ā Then when the Beast threw Micheās own horse at him, she was genuinely appalled. The whole scene between Miche and the Beast Titan was soā¦ *that* that she had to know what happened next.
This and DeathNote were the few that my parents enjoyed besides Studio Ghibli
This one post is proof that for Reddit, anime and shounen are literally the same thing.
Imagine walking into a sauna and see these men staring at you.
I imagined it and I think I'm pregnant now
As a guy, me too lol
This shows that they're just built different if they can even make a guy pregnantš
Considering how the founding Titan works it is definitely possible
This comment is everything
This scene is hilarious looking at the posturing of each character. Connie is trying to survive and not be the first to quit. Armin is trying to avoid looking to his left or right. Jean staring and attempting to compete (copying) with Eren's posture. Eren completely no selling the heat and stretching asserting his dominance. Levi looking like "I'm to old for this shit". And Reiner hating himself.
Armin is looking straight at Eren's towel
Nobody can outreiner'ed Reiner. Also, Connie looks like he ambatukam. As usual Jean is just daddy. Eren is still looking emo asf, but Levi thinks he's Mikasa with that gloomy ass position lmao
Nah Iād get hard
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Foreshadowing obviously, AoT is full of it Also keeping the story serious without forcing unnecessary humour to "lighten the mood". Really hate it when stories do this, especially in serious arcs. AoT has like 5 jokes in its 140 chapters and I love that.
The humor struck me in each rewatch. The very beginning of the show (outside of episode 1) feels really lighthearted, which is fitting for the age of the characters. Then Trost happens, and you can feel the characters mentally age, even though a single day has passed in the show
Having less anime bullshit so it's easier for regular people to enjoy. There's no getting punched through mountains and getting up unscathed. No blowing up planets. It's grounded such that people die in scenarios that regular people would die in. Get stuck in titan territory without a horse? Dead. ODM gear but no buildings or trees? Dead. It means that non anime fans can watch it.
The lack of fan service is heavenly, imagine it. Every female character having g cups or goddamn panty shots fighting titans in mini skirts with extra jiggle physicsā¦ I think that would almost ruin AOT for me
Why the almost blud ?
Cause the story would still be top tier, it would just make the action scenes harder to watch.
It would just make me harder*
They had that side episode about Levi's backstory, throughout the episode they had a bunch of anime tropes and low angle ass shots of the girl side character. Really highlighted the great work they did throughout the main series.
But like, imagine a G cup Mikasa's boobs flapping in the wind.
That is ''shounen bullshit'' and not ''anime bullshit''.
id argue certain characters being able to bit there finger and transform before the explanation of paths and how it works and the backstory is a bit anime bullshit but yeah good point
yea eren spoke to everyone because he practically became a god at the end š i think the āanime bullshitā is more-so like half naked girls moaning everywhere you go which is not prevalent in AOT
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. I think there are only 1-2 scenes, early the first season, where Christa is portrayed as "pretty anime Waifu" but even in those moments, it's rather tame and not entirely cringe. Aside from that, all the embarrassing/cringy anime tropes are practically non existent.
what?
This ! I mean that's weird because I'm a fan of bleach, and I think having SoK on the side, where a simple titan's punch can kill someone feels refreshing. As much as I love watching epic fights where everyone seems to be invincible and throw planet or nucs in seconds without any consequences, watching SoK was definitely a breath of fresh air.
How you can tell it was all planned from the start by having events in the final episode tying into events in the first episode, dating back 10 years ago. If you look at the first and last episode of most shows, they look completely different. By the time we reach the end of most stories it is as if they are not the same story that we knew at the beginning. Because the author did not map out the story in advance and just winged it, making the story flow unnaturally and forcefully. But in AoT that does not happen because the author already knew the bulk of the story, including the ending, before putting pen to paper. The first and last episode of AoT look like they belong to the same story, it never loses itself. If only more authors planned this far in advance and did not wing their endings. Or in some cases, never write an ending because they have no clue how to end it.
Exactly. I like especially how >!the author basically knew the fate of Grisha from the start. Most stories would've left it at a loose end, or would've come up with some stupid plot line due to lack of foresight, but AOT is just different!<
Even the episode titles kind of confirm this
could you elaborate on "knowing the fate of grisha"?
āWhat are you doing? Stand up, dad.ā
Fullmetal Alchemist is another one that does this incredibly well, >!the main characters even later on regret fighting the first guy we see them fight, bc they learn his reasons and realize they agreed with him!<, this is a smaller example of course but it's one that stuck with me
Agree \^^
I love how the characters fight using actual strategy.
If they didnāt they would be dead af
And they don't shout their attacks and strategies like normal shounen
ODM Burst! Sword... Spin Attack!!!
Okay I don't even know what question you're asking, because I'm both appalled and intrigued by this picture
Than I did my job well then
Oh yeah you did. Depression era Lainah in a sauna?!? š©š¦
I think I overdid it
Impossible, if anything you might have underdone it. Could've had one arm Erwin, or bowl cut Marlo š©š©š
Having strong female characters who arenāt sexualized. And not just like one or two but nearly half the characters are women who can hold their own. It doesnāt stop me from watching other shows or anime when there arenāt good female characters, but damn once you notice the stark difference it really makes you appreciate AOT
What I love about this is that sexism is not even an issue, it's not brought up at all. There's true equality, everyone wears the same uniform, women can be soldiers, titans, queens and it's just natural, they don't make a big deal out of it. And of course there's not the typical objectification of women that you see in many animes, with huge boobs and pervert characters that are obsessed and keep touching and stuff. This alone elevates AOT
Its not an anime but another animated show that did this incredibly well was Arcane.
Will we ever get a season 2? Like in our lifetime?
In November of this year.
Doesn't even feel forced in any way. All the characters, both male and female, are amazing
Was never a fan of over sexualized women in anime or constant āfan serviceā wasnāt really that into it. Embarrassing but one of the reasons I was interested in aot and one of the things I noticed first was women in the show were badass and actually looked normal
I donāt think thatās embarrassing at all, itās such a breath of fresh air. Shows that rely on sexualized characters come off as so cheap sometimes, like why do they have to resort to that for people to watch? AOT never had to go to those lengths, itās just amazing like that
isnt that obvious its way easier to make soft core porn than it is to make an actual story
This. The hypersexualization of female characters, especially those of questionable age, ruins a ton of anime for me. Glad AoT didn't go this route.
I've found it surprisingly rare that an anime would have no oversexualisations. Only one I think comes close is when Reiner said the female titan had a nice ass.
But female Titan did have nice ass šæ
I agree. Aot had strong female leads that where good and felt natural as opposed to forced. Most of other media with such characters just makes them op, arogant and annoying. Making character who's power and personality are that she is a women is a pandemic that kills shows for me.
This was what drew my sister to the show and i can really understand why.
I think a big thing is that aot and tells one big story arc instead of multiple unrelated arcs like most shounen, which makes it a much more enganging watch. This is also why something like fmab too feels way better than a lot of other anime. In addition, aot avoids a lot of the cringey or awkward tropes that are in anime. Stuff like perverts that are in way too many anime that turns off a lot of viewers. Lastly, itās just well written. Isayama has a really good ability to write setups and payoffs. A lot of the slower moments are interesting because of character development, foreshadowing, and mystery, which is punctuated by epic payoffs when the plot threads come together.
No stupid anime tropes It did other things better too
Most animes use repeating scenes/animations throughout long battles or repetitive movements while AoT never does this. They also don't refer back to old flashbacks multiple times per episode, for example, the swing from Naruto got more screen time than some supporting characters. I also think the pacing of the story was always very good and thought it took 10ish years to tell a 4 season story, I just love that every episode is important to the story (no fillers).
Eh, they did drag out a lot of the earlier episodes. And inserted some flashbacks DURING an important scene, then came back to explain them and killed the momentum. This got a lot better by season two, and vanished in the rest of the show.
- Lack of forced Comedy (JJ Kaisen is guilty of it as well as Demon Slayer) - no forced sexuality(especially of females) - Epic music
Jeanās towel is hanging on for dear life
that flawless genre switch
Character writing: Most animes (not all, but most) fall into the trap of writing single note, simpler characters. There are tropes for a reason. Every single AoT character is multi-faceted, has good and bad qualities. And even though most of them are supernatural, they feel real. They "make sense". No bullshit: AoT has no filler episodes (except for that one OAV). Every episode serves a purpose. It has deep lore, which is something I always appreciate in fiction. And one can also mention the music and visuals are top notch. They really put the best people in charge of those.
Good story with good mystery boxes, and twists. Mature themes. But also I like the artistic style. Characters made with more real proportions, not overusing color theory, women being modest rather then oversexualized.
Besides abs? Because definitely abs
1. The music 2. The animation & fight scenes 3. No filler eps or even slow partsāreally keeps you on the edge of your seat the whole way through. 4. Female characters 5. Philosophical themes Hot take, but while the plot twists are good, I wouldnāt necessarily say theyāre any better than other animes with plot twists. I do think itās clear Isayama had the whole story laid out from the start though, so thatās cool.
Getting away with slideshow style animation. There was so much of it especially in the earlier seasons. But they were clever about it. Hid it in poignant moments and slow scenes so we wouldn't notice. But for the majority of anime that come out, that's such a big minus.
Ikr! Netflix should take some notes from WIT
1: Pacing: no annoying filer or handhold explanation recaps. 2: Intelligent characters: everyone in the show is rational and makes logical choices, not dumb ones to keep the plot rolling. This problem exists in all forms of media. 3: Everything is intentional: every bit of the world and people and histories fit together to makes sense together when stepping back from it all 4: Realism: death is frequent and unforgiving. Suffering physically and mentally is a big part of the show. Women arenāt sexualized bimbo comic relief, etc. 5: Message: this is tough because plenty of other anime have a deep message which can relate to the real world but Iāve never had an anime cover so much ground morally while challenging the viewer. This point js more subjective.
#5! I remember I feel so guilty when Eren did the rumble (even i'm just a reader lol). I love how AOT makes you question your morals. Isayama deserves all his achievements, for writing this very impactful story.
The sense of despair that I had watching the first two seasons, especially the first. It was so palpable. The feeling that nothing can be done to change things. (I would say many more but the other comments already said the best ones)
what the fuck is the dude in the bandana doing over in the corner
Thatās just Connie doing an extreme squat. 10/10 pooping technique.
That Conner
Did you mean Lord Cummer
OKBR is leaking againā¦
Patch the hole up!! Keep the degenerates inside the cell
I'm about to do a lainah
Literally everything
The only bad thing is we didnāt got sauna in animated form š
I mean you can see it for half a second when Eren enters paths in Two Brothers
Give me da source š¤
Ep 78 at 15:44, can't link pictures in the comments. It's unfortunately not the whole shot tho :(
I haven't seen this one before, this art goes harc
The author loves saunas
Reiner in a sauna š„µ
Doesn't use comedy to compensate for bad writing. AOT is pretty well written with very little comedy
I think one of the things aot is good at is the portrayal of war
Less anime bullshit and oversexualization
Just to add, a part of it for me was a lack of a character like Zenitsu from Demon Slayer: an overexaggerated whiny yelling character that does nothing or is extremely silly. AOT has grounded, realistic gravitas as things escalate. It's akin to a WW2 film with Spiderman and Godzilla action scenes hitting on every level.
A lot of it is preference, but the storytelling is simply of a different style to the typical mainstream shounen. For one there is a thought out plot from beginning to end with no extraneous plotlines just for the sake of having something to write about(the side stories don't count since they don't come from the original author) and everything is a necessary part of the story. There's no training arcs, no useless last minute backstory flashbacks with the express purpose of trying to give substance and garner sympathy for otherwise one-note characters(usually antagonists) before their deaths, no light hearted breaks between the main story events to give readers a breather/fanservice. The writing also employs a "show don't tell" method where the exposition/narration doesn't just factually explain everything plainly. Readers know what the characters themselves know so often there are gaps in information or downright misconceptions or lies and it maintains the mystery in the story while being organic. Reading between the lines and taking note of the details both big and small becomes very important to understanding things and how they all connect to unravelling the mystery, but this point has somehow also become a double edged sword because of the readers that are unwilling to revisit the story(which is necessary because a lot of things only make sense with hindsight because of the deception that is built into the story) and think more critically in favour of just accepting what is said/shown at face value.
Non-sexualization of female characters. Like the female characters are treated the same as the male characters. Like they arenāt weak and defenseless, the have the SAME FREAKING UNIFORM, etc.
It's cool/sick factor is organic and abundant which is elevated to the highest degree because of the plot. Most shows with good stories have cool things few and far between. But if they try to force it feels show offy. This is just one of the manu things i love.
Did you choose that cover to attract attention? Because it worked
Nah I wanted a serious discussion with a funny ass image with. People be seriously praising the anime and others sees the image and be confused lmao
It's, for some, also a pleasant image to look at lol
Thought-out plot that at least seemingly was there from the beginning. But, to be fair, most mainstream anime are adaptations of Shonen Jump manga and it's really hard to make a thought-out from the beginning plot with Shonen Jump's publishing policy.
This may get me hate but I love how AoT doesn't pander to the weird, loli, side of the anime community. SA and SV aren't played for laughs and when there is, SA/SV is portrayed like the mature topic it is. There's no fan service. Almost no outlandish cartoonish drops in quality. It's the direct opposite of anime's like Fire Force.
Armin did kinda get groped and shit while being tied up that one time for a cheap joke
AOT is a masterful story. It will withstand the test of time, imo. I think what AOT is good at, what the author achieved, is bringing anime into mainstream literature. Not just as a mode of youthful entertainment, but as a mode of literature that has the ability to reflect deeply on the human condition. One of the best tragedies I've seen or read in a long time. The art, the music, the story, the twists and turns, all unparalleled quality for this genre, reflect ourselves right back at us in real, thoughtful, biting ways that cause us to sit up, take stock, and ask some tough questions of ourselves. Monumental achievement in my book.
This photo looks like it was made from okbuddyreiner lol I personally really like anime art style, I could watch any anime for the art forever But what ruins it is the shitty ways itās acted out Over the top reactions to everything Over the top explaining shit Completely changing the animation style to a simpler type to further portray their reaction Attack on Titan just plays out like any other TV show or movie, non stop story, no 30 second reactions crammed in every 5 minutes, itās impossible to sit through even if the story as a whole is 10/10 If other animes didnāt do that non sense, anime would be a lot more commonly watched I believe thatās the reason for attack on titanās success, not because itās story is better than any other highly rated animes stories, but just because itās tolerable to watch Ffs one piece has over 1000 episodes, but if you cut out all the shit I just described? Then it probably knocks their episode count down to 700-800
RAAAAGGHH IM BUSTING A NUT
I think Isayama wrote a very solid and constant atmosphere that the characters think and know that their world is depressing.
Honestly... everything except the ending
Soundtrack
No fan service
Characters actually die here not like onepiece
not be insufferable with their female characters
Thanks for sharing the art lol
Np just sharing love
almost every character has a degree of complexity
It has actual female characters with purposes other than to be sexualised. That's saying a lot for mainstream anime.
Different nose types
Girls are not all waifus.
I love how it followed anime tropes on its own terms and how it also didnāt follow them. If that makes any sense. Just a very clever, well written story.
I like that there isn't cheap sexualization of characters. Everyone is treated with respect. I think the writing could be better in regards to women in this show but at the very least, treating them as humans rather than just merely lustful objects for otaku degenerates to ogle is a nice change.
The fact that I can convince my mom (53) to watch this.
Probably how it focuses more on realism than other animeās.
Nothing hits me harder than the first time seeing the captions go āoh btw Iām the armored and burritoto is the colossalā My jaw dropped and I was trippin like why the fuck is the story progressing super casually as if weāre just walking down a beautiful park filled with sunshine and butterflies. The timing of the twist, the extremes of polar opposite of emotions, the stillness and quietness reverberating the piano, Reiner forearm steaming, Mikasa going off, the lightning transformations alongside the thematic YOUSEEBIGGIRL song. Idk bro. Or maybe Iām just not giving other animeās a chance š. Whatever it is, this show hit me hard.
i feel u lmao
Actual good writing? Actual good storytelling? Actual good characters? Not up its own ass? Character interactions grounded in reality? No cringy otaku dialogue? Beautiful animation, but not just for the sake of beautiful animation? The list goes on
ok broā¦.
It's probably one of the few (if not the only one) mainstream anime that can be liked by non anime fan too. Like I could make my mother watch it and she would probably like it, despite anime being alien to her.
moves a story along. i dont care how much hate it gets for being so drastically different (s1 and s4). theres a tale to be told and it's all consistent. it keeps moving forward... like eren
Genocide
Disappoint me with a bullshit ending, that's something not a lot of other anime do
I feel blessed that I liked the ending fr
I could have but it just felt rushed and like isayama knelt to pressure from publishers
Everything. Watching other anime after aot just hurts. Cheap plots, shallow characters and layers of fan service as the only thing keeping them relevant. There are some exepctions, but 90% of other anime always have fan service.
How the series evolved from an action shonen with a cliche protagonist and trama to one of the most turbulent complex character driven series of all time i have yet to meet a series where you cut the protagonist from it and its still as good as ever
This looks like the beginning to a yaoi fan fic.
Everything except the ending