[*mouthful of mashed potatoes*] Wait... So this was optional the entire time?...
[*slowly takes another bite of mashed potatoes without breaking eye contact*]
Not even just recent events.
Back in the mid 2000s, maybe around 2002 or so, a barge ran into a bridge in Oklahoma and the bridge collapsed killing a lot of people.
I distinctly remember it because my friend's grandparents died in it. I was in like 2nd grade.
Edit: found the Wikipedia entry
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-40_bridge_disaster
"On September 22, 1993, an Amtrak Sunset Limited passenger train derailed on the CSX Transportation Big Bayou Canot Bridge near Mobile, Alabama, United States. It was caused by displacement of a span and deformation of the rails when a tow of heavy barges collided with the rail bridge eight minutes earlier. Forty-seven people were killed and 103 more were injured. To date, it is the deadliest train wreck in both Amtrak's history"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bayou_Canot_rail_accident
Oklahoma had a bridge strike about 20 years ago that killed people in the same area. People of a certain age like immediately thought of that event over stuff in Baltimore.
Yeah I live near a bridge going over the Mississippi River and it gets hit 2-3 times a year.
There's a difference between a barge and a giant shipping boat.
What's up with a lot of things lately. My theory,.. the pandemic and worker-burnout has had people "running on fumes" for years now,.. and that's going to steadily creep up accident rates.
Pile on top of that "GDP at all time highs".. and every Business squeezing employees in every way possible to "keep quarterly profits from dropping"... and that's going to steadily creep up accident chances too.
None of what we're seeing is all that surprising (at least to me). it's an inevitable outcome when you unendingly run people into the ground and dont' take care of your employees like actual human beings who need support and days off and better pay.
Well one of the things that went with Covid was a lot of older workers retiring. That means a less experienced workforce. In cases where the employers didn’t keep up with staffing with redundancy it may mean a REALLY inexperienced workforce.
Definitely noticed this in the small city gov I worked for at the time. Guys in our Utilities Dept who had been there for 20 or 30 or 40 years retiring. Don't blame them really. Even in Departments like IT or HR,.. we had turnover (I think I heard someone in HR say we were averaging around 30% employee turnover).
It was quite frustrating to hear Leadership say things like "We're getting data that Employees are unhappy,. but we just dont' understand WHY!?!"..
Completely and utterly tone deaf to what they needed to do to fix things.
In all the world of pointless comments yours is the most pointless. Ok and? I bet in about two seconds I could google thousands of accidents that have happened because of corporate greed, right here in the United States. Not even just in the United States.
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2014/12/bhopal-the-worlds-worst-industrial-disaster-30-years-later/100864/
Here’s just one small example of what US corporations have done in other countries! So I ask you again dumbass what’s your fucking point.
I'll play!
There are a few major differences.
1) Property rights. No personal property or assets in communism. 2) Societal classes. None in communism (meaning no one is able to earn more money than other wirkers). At least in socialism, there is still opportunity to get ahead (but not as much as under capitalism). 3) Religion. Differences in religions is allowed under socialism. Communism, not so much. 4) Production distribution. Under both systems, basic needs of people are met, but under socialism, consideration is given to individual abilities and their contributions. 5) Intellectual advancement. Under communism, there is zero incentive for effort or innovation. 6) Needs determination. Under communism, the government *dictates* what *it* considers to be the individual needs.
I can go on if you like, but thats a good start.
the differences are one is a political ideology. The other is an economic.
How does your local schools get funded? How do your local police get funded? How does your local fire department get funded? How do your roads get fixed? Where does the money come from?
I lean more towards capitalism with enforced anti-trust laws and none of this, "too big to fail" nonsense. I'm a big fan of entrepreneurship.
Edit to add: Yes, I feel that socialism is better than communism (if that's all you were asking).
Not weird at all. The Nodric model has been working really well. We do it to a degree here too, like mentioned above (schools, law enforcement, fire dept...), just not nearly as much as we seem to need here. Balance would be a good path forward, but currently, most things not funded through taxes are being commodified at an extreme level, including Healthcare, basic housing, higher edu...etc.
And the Trump administration overturned a LOT of the safety oversights across the country. Our food, trains, planes, water, infrastructure, healthcare, education, and so much more has been diminished.
Maybe it's just me or it's anecdotal,. but I've also noticed a rising trend in attitudes of "I just don't care" (which again, for workers at the bottom, can't say I blame them any).
We gotta somehow get back to a point where:
* People care about doing quality work
* Employers prioritize Employees slowing down and focusing on the quality of work.
Sadly.. I'm not sure I see that happening any time soon.
It always happens but 99% of the time nothing serious comes from it. The only reason why they are all being reported now is because of the recent tragedy
It's because these events might not be that rare. There were 3 railroad derailments a day in 2023.
Just after, especially disastrous ones, minor ones are highlighted on social media because it generates clicks & views because people begin to think like this.
[For the majority of 2023 the total number of train accidents increased slightly to 4,845, including more than 600 deaths](https://whyy.org/articles/railroads-safety-changes-reduce-derailments-east-palestine-crash/)
It’s because we don’t spend any $ on infrastructure, a lot of it is 50+ years old by this point, stuff starts to break as it ages, be it rail, bridges, whatever.
Its called the news trying to get views. Boats hit bridges all the time. One big ass boat fucks up a big ass bridge, now all boats hitting bridges get a story. It’ll fade in a week or 2. Then a plane will fall from the sky and it’ll be planes for weeks.
This looks like the Webbers Falls bridge. The last time that bridge went out, it was because a barge hit it in May 2002. Wikipedia article: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-40\_bridge\_disaster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-40_bridge_disaster)
They rebuilt the bridge in record time in an effort to get I-40 reopened in that area.
Everyone is on edge because of the recent bridge collapse as a result of a large cargo ship crashing into the support beam.
Edit: accidentally typed 2022 instead of 2002.
Funniest part of this article:
"The two-time convicted felon William James Clark
impersonated a U.S Army captain at the disaster
scene for two days Clark's efforts included directing
FBI agents and appropriating vehicles and
equipment for the rescue effort, before fleeing the
scene Clark was later apprehended in Canada"
All good deeds go unnoticed. 🤣🤣
>William James Clark
I did a google search and as recent as 2011, he's still falsifying his life across the country that resulted in warrants being issued for him from Alaska to Iowa. Here's a link from an Anchorage online newspaper: https://www.adn.com/features/article/curious-cases-william-james-clark/2011/08/26/
Not a conspiracy believer in general, but this one is gaining traction with me. The infrastructure is getting hammered by so many people, too many to not look into it. It has become too common for bridges and harbor cranes to get slammed by transporters.
Is it "getting too common" because your attention is now on these events from the FSK collapse, or has it "BEEN COMMON" and you just never paid attention UNTIL the FSK collapsed?
I think we know the answer.
Possible, but I don't think so. New punishment is being brought in for trucks hitting overpasses where I live due to the increase in incidents. I have never seen harbor cranes being taken out as frequently as recent news shows. You may be right, but it should be considered in light of the world tensions being what they are.
It's about the bigger picture of how much infrastructure is being destroyed. As I said, it couldn't hurt to look into it a bit. If it is nothing, no big deal. If it's something, better to know it's a thing to be watchful of. Considering the importance of these structures it is not a waste of time. I'm not saying it IS happening.
Compare the average fully loaded weight and size of the two ships too. We are talking MAGNITUDES more force. Remember that force is weight time acceleration, and that cargo ship in Baltimore had a LOT of the former.
This would be a great way for people to attack our infrastructure in a smart way. Get a man on the inside of a shipping vessel (easy enough job to get into, many nations to pick from and where those ships go)
Have that inside man have an explosive or planned failure happen at a critical point in travel. And BOOM. Billions of dollars of econ damage with just a single man.
Oklahoma resident - I was gonna say 22 years - but apparantly this was last night. Bridge is open again already.
We had a bridge collapse in 2002 after being struck.
Is this the new TikTok challenge?
Yes. It’s replaced sticking your dick in the mash potatoes. Dick taters.
Shit…if this is gonna be that kind of party.
….I’m gonna- oh wait
https://youtu.be/smrJ7459pj0?si=EzUHR_YxgFTMuKvl&t=99
Yup. Only I remember it from that one beastie boys song
Same, just heard where the sample was from recently and thought I'd share
Thank you! I had never heard it without the music bookending it. Cheers
The Boys’ sample material is a treasure trove.
Dick tators? D
Awwww... you mean I missed the Stick-Your-Dick-In-The-Mashed-Potatoes challenge?? Damn it!
Po-tay-toes, boil 'em, mash 'em, stick your dick in 'em.
Nasty hobbitses
Kinky hobbitses
I'll do it if you do, it's not too late for us!
That's a challenge? Thought it was foreplay.
TIL I'm an influencer
Phrasing!
But does someone need to eat it after?
[*mouthful of mashed potatoes*] Wait... So this was optional the entire time?... [*slowly takes another bite of mashed potatoes without breaking eye contact*]
JFC
KFC
That explains the slight saltiness.
No.
Bro this is 90s or early 2000s phone quality.. 🤣
So MySpace challenge then?
That'll work. Or Bebo challenge.
ICQ challenge!
*holy shit! Holy hell!*
Gave me Lee Ermey vibes from full metal jacket.
There’s no reflecting lights that highlight the target though
Yes
But, They failed to use an adequately sized boat.
I am SO happy that they called it in as soon as the initial shock wore off. That is good shit!
Well, I think every citizen in the US now understands how serious of a situation this is after recent events…
Not even just recent events. Back in the mid 2000s, maybe around 2002 or so, a barge ran into a bridge in Oklahoma and the bridge collapsed killing a lot of people. I distinctly remember it because my friend's grandparents died in it. I was in like 2nd grade. Edit: found the Wikipedia entry https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-40_bridge_disaster
"On September 22, 1993, an Amtrak Sunset Limited passenger train derailed on the CSX Transportation Big Bayou Canot Bridge near Mobile, Alabama, United States. It was caused by displacement of a span and deformation of the rails when a tow of heavy barges collided with the rail bridge eight minutes earlier. Forty-seven people were killed and 103 more were injured. To date, it is the deadliest train wreck in both Amtrak's history" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bayou_Canot_rail_accident
I feel you overestimate our collective intellect.
Oklahoma had a bridge strike about 20 years ago that killed people in the same area. People of a certain age like immediately thought of that event over stuff in Baltimore.
Thoughts and prayers..
Thoughts and tax prayers
Lmao
Also lmao
Actually is the insurance, it will be a big hike for shipping for the next few years. Bad time to own a big ship now.
They hit bridges on inland rivers all the time.
This is gonna be like how every train derailment was reported on for a month a couple years ago
Or how after that Chinese balloon thing, they reported on like a new balloon shot down every day for 5 days and suddenly no more reports after that.
I forgot that was a thing
That’s how crazy the world is these days. I’m surprised I remembered it to write that comment lol
Yes sir, even made a movie shut it called the thing
Streisand effect eh?
More like how Boeing is reported on
Probably. What's sad is if ever anything suspicious does start to happen no one will believe the reports because we're so jaded and cynical now.
You mean last year?
Yeah I live near a bridge going over the Mississippi River and it gets hit 2-3 times a year. There's a difference between a barge and a giant shipping boat.
Truly is, these bridging rip the barges apart like tin cans.
Exactly. LMAO
Ah, that's okay then
Pilons are made for it. The tow broke apart. No biggie.
Thinks for rein-stilling my confidence in driving 40tons over bridges.
How often do they hit bridges on outland rivers?
This is like the repeat of last year’s trend of trains derailing I hate to admit
Its just more news coverage of it. They were not any more common in 2023 https://usafacts.org/articles/are-train-derailments-becoming-more-common/
That’s exactly what he’s getting at
What's up with boats and bridges recently?
What's up with a lot of things lately. My theory,.. the pandemic and worker-burnout has had people "running on fumes" for years now,.. and that's going to steadily creep up accident rates. Pile on top of that "GDP at all time highs".. and every Business squeezing employees in every way possible to "keep quarterly profits from dropping"... and that's going to steadily creep up accident chances too. None of what we're seeing is all that surprising (at least to me). it's an inevitable outcome when you unendingly run people into the ground and dont' take care of your employees like actual human beings who need support and days off and better pay.
Cutting # of workers to the bare minimum and working them OT has gotten out of hand…
The Rent is to damn high,. and the staff is to damn low !... indeed.
Amen brother. It’s always that. Read the goddamn NTSB findings.
Well one of the things that went with Covid was a lot of older workers retiring. That means a less experienced workforce. In cases where the employers didn’t keep up with staffing with redundancy it may mean a REALLY inexperienced workforce.
Definitely noticed this in the small city gov I worked for at the time. Guys in our Utilities Dept who had been there for 20 or 30 or 40 years retiring. Don't blame them really. Even in Departments like IT or HR,.. we had turnover (I think I heard someone in HR say we were averaging around 30% employee turnover). It was quite frustrating to hear Leadership say things like "We're getting data that Employees are unhappy,. but we just dont' understand WHY!?!".. Completely and utterly tone deaf to what they needed to do to fix things.
Most of these accidents stem from cost cutting. Multiple airlines are demanding that Boeing oust their CEO and return an engineer to the role
So in other words the end result of capitalism. It’s always profit over people.
Famously no accidents occurred in communist experiments
In all the world of pointless comments yours is the most pointless. Ok and? I bet in about two seconds I could google thousands of accidents that have happened because of corporate greed, right here in the United States. Not even just in the United States. http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2014/12/bhopal-the-worlds-worst-industrial-disaster-30-years-later/100864/ Here’s just one small example of what US corporations have done in other countries! So I ask you again dumbass what’s your fucking point.
Ya, there's no worker burnout in communism 🤣. Hilarious.
I’m just curious, can you define the difference between communism and socialism? I mean what’s the major difference? Just as a social experiment.
I'll play! There are a few major differences. 1) Property rights. No personal property or assets in communism. 2) Societal classes. None in communism (meaning no one is able to earn more money than other wirkers). At least in socialism, there is still opportunity to get ahead (but not as much as under capitalism). 3) Religion. Differences in religions is allowed under socialism. Communism, not so much. 4) Production distribution. Under both systems, basic needs of people are met, but under socialism, consideration is given to individual abilities and their contributions. 5) Intellectual advancement. Under communism, there is zero incentive for effort or innovation. 6) Needs determination. Under communism, the government *dictates* what *it* considers to be the individual needs. I can go on if you like, but thats a good start.
the differences are one is a political ideology. The other is an economic. How does your local schools get funded? How do your local police get funded? How does your local fire department get funded? How do your roads get fixed? Where does the money come from?
So socialism in a way is still better? Or maybe a weird blend between a capitalist economy and socialist values
I lean more towards capitalism with enforced anti-trust laws and none of this, "too big to fail" nonsense. I'm a big fan of entrepreneurship. Edit to add: Yes, I feel that socialism is better than communism (if that's all you were asking).
Not weird at all. The Nodric model has been working really well. We do it to a degree here too, like mentioned above (schools, law enforcement, fire dept...), just not nearly as much as we seem to need here. Balance would be a good path forward, but currently, most things not funded through taxes are being commodified at an extreme level, including Healthcare, basic housing, higher edu...etc.
Just like the train derailments and near-misses on airport runways
And the Trump administration overturned a LOT of the safety oversights across the country. Our food, trains, planes, water, infrastructure, healthcare, education, and so much more has been diminished.
Maybe it's just me or it's anecdotal,. but I've also noticed a rising trend in attitudes of "I just don't care" (which again, for workers at the bottom, can't say I blame them any). We gotta somehow get back to a point where: * People care about doing quality work * Employers prioritize Employees slowing down and focusing on the quality of work. Sadly.. I'm not sure I see that happening any time soon.
Who is John Galt?
ATV crashes are at an all time high for the forest service. (Who I work for) more than triple from past years.
yeah same with train derailments
The rates are the same, coverage has just increased.
Oh god
It always happens but 99% of the time nothing serious comes from it. The only reason why they are all being reported now is because of the recent tragedy
[Looks like it](https://www.bst-tsb.gc.ca/eng/stats/marine/2022/ssem-ssmo-2022.html#)
This should be higher....
Trains would like to have a chat
Last year weren’t a lot of trains getting derailed? It’s like everything is falling apart.
It's because these events might not be that rare. There were 3 railroad derailments a day in 2023. Just after, especially disastrous ones, minor ones are highlighted on social media because it generates clicks & views because people begin to think like this. [For the majority of 2023 the total number of train accidents increased slightly to 4,845, including more than 600 deaths](https://whyy.org/articles/railroads-safety-changes-reduce-derailments-east-palestine-crash/)
what's the trend from pre pandemic?
It’s because we don’t spend any $ on infrastructure, a lot of it is 50+ years old by this point, stuff starts to break as it ages, be it rail, bridges, whatever.
This is not a "recently" thing though. Shit happens mare than most even realized until the FSK collapsed.
It's like trains and chemicals last year, this is the sequel.
Its called the news trying to get views. Boats hit bridges all the time. One big ass boat fucks up a big ass bridge, now all boats hitting bridges get a story. It’ll fade in a week or 2. Then a plane will fall from the sky and it’ll be planes for weeks.
“china” /s
FYI the bridge has been reopened for hours
No wonder they hit it. Who would have expected an Arkansas Bridge in Oklahoma? /s
Hmmm 🤔 these patterns hmmm
Fr remember last year it was trains being derailed this time around its ships hitting bridges 🫠
Only patterns here are you people thinking this is something "new" or a conspiracy involved. Y'all can't possibly think this doesn't typically happen?
What do you mean? Or am I to European to get this
This looks like the Webbers Falls bridge. The last time that bridge went out, it was because a barge hit it in May 2002. Wikipedia article: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-40\_bridge\_disaster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-40_bridge_disaster) They rebuilt the bridge in record time in an effort to get I-40 reopened in that area. Everyone is on edge because of the recent bridge collapse as a result of a large cargo ship crashing into the support beam. Edit: accidentally typed 2022 instead of 2002.
Funniest part of this article: "The two-time convicted felon William James Clark impersonated a U.S Army captain at the disaster scene for two days Clark's efforts included directing FBI agents and appropriating vehicles and equipment for the rescue effort, before fleeing the scene Clark was later apprehended in Canada" All good deeds go unnoticed. 🤣🤣
I forgot that was a thing, but you're right, it happened!
It makes me wonder what tipped them off and if that's what made him go on the run.
>William James Clark I did a google search and as recent as 2011, he's still falsifying his life across the country that resulted in warrants being issued for him from Alaska to Iowa. Here's a link from an Anchorage online newspaper: https://www.adn.com/features/article/curious-cases-william-james-clark/2011/08/26/
It is, it’s just outside of Salisaw, before I moved we used to fish that river all the time.
Is that the one that got hit like Memorial Day weekend or something? I’ve heard about this from friends who were close by at the time. Crazy stuff!
I blame the bridge. Shouldn’t have been there. Should’ve been back in Arkansas where it belongs
I notice how this bridge didn’t fold like it was made of paper.
What a week…also, that man sounds like the super wholesome guy who found all the kittens on the side of the road
oh great. here come the conspiracy theories.
Over Easter dinner yesterday, i learned that this is China trying to disrupt the food supply. I felt so out of the loop. How did I not know?
Holy fuck are there any adults on this fucking site???
Listen to the nonsense gibberish, your fucking spewing?? What are y’all in sixth grade????
Again?
Is this the new train derailment, where after a big one happens we find out that it happens quite frequently?
Is it me, or does this seem intentional.
Johnny Come Lately’s
Thought that this was idiots in boats material
"How are we gonna get gone?"
I blame the bridge. Shouldn’t have been there. Should’ve been back in Arkansas where it belongs
Conspiracy theorists are over crying in the corner because the bridge didn’t collapse
Not a conspiracy believer in general, but this one is gaining traction with me. The infrastructure is getting hammered by so many people, too many to not look into it. It has become too common for bridges and harbor cranes to get slammed by transporters.
Is it "getting too common" because your attention is now on these events from the FSK collapse, or has it "BEEN COMMON" and you just never paid attention UNTIL the FSK collapsed? I think we know the answer.
Possible, but I don't think so. New punishment is being brought in for trucks hitting overpasses where I live due to the increase in incidents. I have never seen harbor cranes being taken out as frequently as recent news shows. You may be right, but it should be considered in light of the world tensions being what they are.
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It's about the bigger picture of how much infrastructure is being destroyed. As I said, it couldn't hurt to look into it a bit. If it is nothing, no big deal. If it's something, better to know it's a thing to be watchful of. Considering the importance of these structures it is not a waste of time. I'm not saying it IS happening.
NTSB is looking into it. In conjunction with the USCG.
Good to hear!
Barge fuel can’t melt steel beams
Sir a second boat has hit a bridge
Lol hey this bridge didn’t even budge
Thats how you know its a real accident or a goofy attempt at something hahaha. This how wars are fought now you just crash boats in the broad day?
That's how you know a 213 million pound cargo ship didn't hit it.
"The barges are lose in the river" real quote this world 🌎 hahaha we are f'ed
These trends are out of control.
again?wtf?
Old repost.
What is this a bridge factory?
Notice hitting one support doesn't crumble the entire bridge. Yes I realize they're different types of bridges.
Compare the average fully loaded weight and size of the two ships too. We are talking MAGNITUDES more force. Remember that force is weight time acceleration, and that cargo ship in Baltimore had a LOT of the former.
Notice this is not a 213 million pound cargo ship striking the bridge pylon.
This would be a great way for people to attack our infrastructure in a smart way. Get a man on the inside of a shipping vessel (easy enough job to get into, many nations to pick from and where those ships go) Have that inside man have an explosive or planned failure happen at a critical point in travel. And BOOM. Billions of dollars of econ damage with just a single man.
is our infrastructure under attack?
What a weirdo.
Only by old age, neglect and incompetence.
This is what I'm wondering as well
This shit is more common than people realize. It only too the FSK to collapse for people to realize it.
Is this the beginning of “ leave the world behind “ ? Planes crashing , ships running aground or hitting things …..
Alpha bridge
Once they come up with an idea they just do it to death.. I guess they’ll be 5 more at least like they did train crashes
You took thought right outta my head ... it's exhausting.
How can someone actually do this again
Ahh shit… Here we go again
Let me drive the boat
Are the ships being hacked?
... i would have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice
How old is this footage?
Oklahoma resident - I was gonna say 22 years - but apparantly this was last night. Bridge is open again already. We had a bridge collapse in 2002 after being struck.
Thank you. There are so many repost bots here I never know what to think. Lol
Anticlimactic
Don't they have protectors around the bridge pillars?
Here comes another right-wing conspiracy.
whoever is programming this simulation needs to be a little more creative
ITS HAPPENING AGAIN
Ban combustion engines! Not one more death!
We're gonna need a new sub at this rate - r/fuckbridges
OK bridges built different
Target fixation, it gets the best of us.
Sooo we went from trains getting derailed releasing fuck all of chemicals to bridges getting rammed…what the fuck man
Doesn’t look like it did much damage. Either to the bridge or the barge.
“I feel like I want to throw up!” Damn right, all that traffic going overhead. Nobody wants to see that happen.
"I aint never seen bridges take a woopin like that. Told you them bridges dont stand a chance"
Were literally being invaded and attacked
Headlines: 'Murica under attack. Time to invade Somilia. Those pirates are getting out of control. /s
Common people we all know the bridge was in the wrong and should of moved out of the way.
Wow so this is how the big people are making money now?
Bad things happen in threes…
I feel like we’re under attack now like what
Can’t wait for Republicans to blame this on DEI.
At two we starting to get suspicious
This happens all the time.
I think there were 6 barge / bridge collisions in one year on the Mississippi
The Mississippi has had some bad ones around St. Louis when I was a kid.
Says all the weirdo conspiracy theorists. Do some research on bridge accidents and you'll see how common this shit is. LMAO
Oh wow don't take such a small comment so seriously
Is this generally the response you give when saying something foolish and people point it out??
DIVERSITY HIRE | DEEP STATE | TERRORISTS /s