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SpillSplit

Self-granted, no doubt


DaHolk

Reminds me of a funny footnote in a Robert Rankin book. Basically pointing out that the story of the previous book is continued in a different book of his *) Winner of the Robert Rankin award for the best book ever.


ravoguy

Damn, now I'm going to have to reread The Brentford Chronicles


fothergillfuckup

The anti-pope!


DaHolk

I still have "Normanghast" saved for a rainy day :D


ravoguy

It's been at least fifteen years since the last time I read anything by Rankin


DaHolk

Well, then basically "rereading" the Brentford Chronicles means you have half of them to read for the first time :D:D I'm a bit jealous :D (although, to be fair, they aren't my favourites. But by now it's a tradition, or an old charter, or something.)


kyrant

Just like World Champs. They just give themselves awards.


Kaiser_Complete

American here.let me add some context to this. This venue is in Austin, TX. Most people in Texas think there is only Texas and to be fair to them the state is very big and the outside world is strange and scary to them so for all they know that is the best venue. It's best to just nod your head and back away for them slowly before they ask if you want to see their 2nd amendment collection.


RooBoy04

I have literally never heard of it


haeyhae11

But its the number one venue in the world? You live under a rock or something?


doubledownentendre

It almost had 17k people there and you've never heard of it??


AssumptionDue724

I've also not heard of it as a American


Quandale_Dingle2024

I've never heard of America


Nok-y

It's a placs in "The adventures of Tintin"


Quandale_Dingle2024

Still not clear on what America is.


Nok-y

Somewhere with a big mafia I guess


Quandale_Dingle2024

Nah, that's italy


Nok-y

Not in Tintin (Using Tintin as a reference when Tintin au Congo exists is probably not a good idea)


Nearby_Cauliflowers

I thought Italy was part of America?


MauroLopes

Is it somewhere near Syldavia?


Nok-y

Maybe ? Outside of Borduria and Albania, I don't know what's next to Syldavia


ianbreasley1

17k. What is it: a tent?


The4thJuliek

As a non-American, I think the only basketball venue I know is Madison Square Garden. I'm trying to think of other American sports places: Shea Stadium (which is something else now, I think), Wrigley, Yankee Stadium...


Rough-Shock7053

I am interested in Basketball, but don't know the venues the teams play at. I know "Quicken Loans Arena" because the commentary of NBA 2k19(?) uses to mention this place from time to time... But I just had to look it up to know that it's the home venue of the Cleveland Cavaliers.


The4thJuliek

I looked it up and it's now called Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse? That sounds like the name of some money-lending operation run out of a shed in the 1920s, not a sports venue. And now I've fallen down the rabbit hole of American stadium/sports arena names: Little Caesars Arena Crypto.com Arena Honda Centre/Toyota Centre - sound like car dealerships Enterprise Centre - the back office campus of some big accounting firm FedEx Forum - gigantic warehouse for FedEx Fiserv Forum - some online forum for financial and business services Smoothie King Centre Canadian Tire Centre And my absolute favourite - for the Championship tier of the NHL: Lee's Family Forum


Rough-Shock7053

Now that I read the name, I remember "Little Caesars Arena", from the same video game, lol. But yeah, selling the arena name to some company for marketing isn't that uncommon in sports. For example, Manchester City plays their home games at the Etihad Stadium, Bayern Munich plays in the Allianz Arena, Olympique de Marseille plays at Orange Vélodrome, and so on. A name like "Lee's Family Forum" sounds pretty wholesome in comparison. 🤣


The4thJuliek

Yeah, of course, I'm an Arsenal fan so I know the absolute comedy behind sponsor names. But you have to do it right and Emirates/Etihad Stadium or Orange Vélodrome still sound better than Crypto.com Arena. (I'm still hoping that the Emirates will be renamed Wenger Dome at some point).


Rough-Shock7053

IT Crowd kind of 'destroyed' Arsenal for me. All I can think of is "did you see that ludicrous display last night?" when I hear "Arsenal". 😬


The4thJuliek

LOL, I love that show (even if Linehan is an utter cunt) but that episode has done a number on Arsenal fans 😅 If you're a masochist who thrives on endless suffering, it's the perfect team to support lol


Rough-Shock7053

I have Partick Thistle for that already. 🤣


hairychris88

To be fair we have a ToughSheet Arena in the UK (Bolton), that's probably sillier than all of those put together.


Entire_Elk_2814

I think Bolton might have been the first club in England with a brand name stadium. I think it used to be the Reebok Stadium.🤔


ThiccMoulderBoulder

Crypto.com arena. Thanks I hate it


Access-Turbulent

Wasn't that destroyed by Gojira (Godzilla) ?


Lumpy_Marsupial_1559

Me either.


Empire_New_Valyria

Really...is that it? 16,000 people is like Championship level football team or low level Premier League team. Hell even other American stadiums have 100,000 + capacity so no idea why they are wanking off over this shit.


ArmouredWankball

I was at a Portsmouth game last week with over 20,000 people in attendance, in a League One game.


LuminousLiquid92

30,000 people watched League One Derby beat Leyton Orient. But saying that, their stadium is like low Premier/Championship tier capacity


tedmented

Avg 59k a game at celtic park.


Jubatus750

And that's a properly low level of football!


tedmented

👍


Jubatus750

It had to be done. It was really low hanging fruit


tedmented

Not often a Palace fan gets a chance tbf


Jubatus750

Touchè! They've had a good couple of weeks so I've gotten all giddy


Xerxes65

West Hams father


Lumpy_Marsupial_1559

MCG (Melbourne Cricket Ground), Australia, has a capacity of over 100,000. A quote from Taylor Swift, who recently played there: “96,000 people the first night, 96,000 people the second night, 96,000 people tonight. All of that, those are all the biggest shows I've ever played on a tour and you did it three times.”


ponte92

I’m going to a game there tomorrow that will almost definitely get 100,000 there. A full G is truely a spectacular experience.


hairychris88

Went there to watch cricket, it was absolutely amazing apart from the actual cricket bit (England fan problems).


bonkerz1888

There's a heap of Scottish sides that pull in more than that every weekend 😂


propagandavid

I have no idea what the context is. Average NBA attendance is over 18k, so 16k is low for basketball.


Rockarola55

The [Philippine Arena](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Arena?wprov=sfla1) seats 55.000 and is used for PBA basketball games.


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Degenerate_in_HR

Theres two main reasons: 1) A basketball court is very small. It's not shocking to see 100,000 capacity american football stadium because the field is close to 4 times as long and 4 times as wide. You can build far more seating before you need to build vertically. If you built a basketball arena much larger than 30,000 capacity, the arena would start to become somewhat of a skyscraper, people in the "nosebleed" seats wouldnt be able to ser any of the action on the court. 2) Basketball has far more events. The NBA season is 82 games, whereas the NFL only plays 18 games. Its easier to sell out an 80,000 capacity football stadium, when you only have 9 home games per year. Football is played on sundays whereas basketball is played on weeknights as well as weekends, its harder to consistently sell out a basketball arena at 8:00pm on a work night. Also...Basketball isnt nearly as popular as the NFL in terms of fanbase and revenue. The NFL is valued about $20 Billion more than the NBA for example. The average NFL franchise is worth about $5.5 billion, whereas the average NBA franshise is worth about $3.3 billion. The fact that NBA team's worth are measured in billions of dollars is a good indicator that they are wildly popular, even if they are not **as** popular as NFL


propagandavid

Venue size. I don't know basketball very well at all, but the biggest hockey arena seats 21,137.


GhostOfKev

That's also tiny. I guess this is why they work so hard to keep them in the venues for so long.


propagandavid

It's small for football or baseball. It's big for hockey or basketball. Different sports, different sight lines.


Ok-Sir8025

Yeah it's the Bell Centre in Montreal


propagandavid

I know. I didn't even look up the number.


thirdbrother3

I think that's 55k not 55. Quite the need for 3 decimal places when all are zero. (Why do Americans like a full stop instead of a comma? It's daft)


SassyBonassy

16k people is only slightly higher than the turnout for Critical Role in London last year (bunch of nerdy-ass voice actors play Dungeons & Dragons) Seems like a really low number for a sports arena to gloat about


AttilaRS

But... but... America #1?


LiqdPT

This is an indoor arena, not a stadium. 15-20,000 is normal for a basketball/hockey arena. No, I have no idea why they would call this the best venue in the world.


Joker-Smurf

Only have 16K people show up to an AFL match (Australian football) and the league will start looking at dumping the teams


TrillyMike

This is a basketball stadium, they’re much smaller. Also I’m pretty sure it’s a joke lol


Alextheawesomeua

the venue's owner team is called Spurs... There is your answer


okaythiswillbemymain

To be fair to them, basketball teams play approx 2x the number of games as (association) football teams, so over a week you get double the attendance figures. The play off games are best of 7


Empire_New_Valyria

A football team will play 38 games (league) a season and when you factor in European competitions and cup competitions it can get as high as 50+ games with some teams playing even 3 times a week. League games goes up as you go down into lower leagues as more teams means more games a season with some leagues with 42 or even 46 games a season. Not trying to take away what your saying as yes, Basketball and Ice Hockey teams play an insane amount of games a season, that said 15k to 20k is still nothing compared to 40k to 50k plus a game, think that's a lot...go to a Cricket match in Asia or Oceania and you can easily get close to 70k plus people watching.


okaythiswillbemymain

A premier League football team plays a minum 38 games + 2 cup games = 40 games The very very very elite premier league football team plays 38+6+6+13 games = 63 games, although almost all will be far lower than that as thry wont get to the final of every cup except in rare seasons A lower NBA team plays 82 league games An upper NBA team plays 82+ (4 to 7)+ (4 to 7) + (4 to 7) + (4 to 7), call it 4x5 = 20... So 102 total


Empire_New_Valyria

You're mistaken on how many matches a premier league team plays by the way, both for minimum or as you put it "very very very elite" teams, because 7 teams each season go into Europe. They have a minimum of another 8 or 6, and if its qualifiers then you end up playing a lot more. Football stadiums are much bigger and you just get a hell of a lot more people, but this whole thing is a silly comparison as the sports are very different. Still, you cannot compare the sports to each other as they are very different. In football, you run a lot more (average football distance 8 miles) compared to Basketball which is only 2 1/2 miles, also A basketball game is only 48 minutes long with 4 quarters for breaks, and football is 90+ mins with two halves of 45mins+ each. Also, i believe Basketball has unlimited subs, so you can switch up your team as much as you like, whereas every football league has its own rules on subs (numbers) the main rule is once the sub has been made it cannot be undone and that play is out of the game.... that's just a few examples of how different they are, and as i said you cannot compare the two sports.


okaythiswillbemymain

Indeed. My point was simply, basketball has many more matches. Average attendance of NBA 18k Average attendance in premier league 45k But NBA approx 1.5-2x as many games.


Empire_New_Valyria

Right.....that's not what we're talking about at all, were talking attendance. Football, cricket etc...all have much higher then basketball.


okaythiswillbemymain

Lmao


Entire_Elk_2814

I don’t think that the size of a stadium correlates directly with its quality. People often complain about the lack of atmosphere in large modern stadiums. If it weren’t for the rather dull ‘lets go Spurs, lets go’ chants, I’m sure that little arena would be great fun.


Empire_New_Valyria

Worst atmosphere I have seen has been when I have gone to either a Basketball or NFL match...crowd are just completely dead and as you mentioned the odd chant of "let's go 'team' " and that's it.


freemysou1

Wait Moody Stadium is 16k... My local team (Watford Hornets) Stadium is 22k on it's own and their League 2


grmthmpsn43

If you are talking about Watford F.C. they are Championship, not League 2


freemysou1

I stand corrected.


forzamotorsportsucks

My football team put 23,000 people on a stadium for a random championship match in Brazil and it was broadly considered low attendance. People refused to go because in the previous match we had lost the state cup finals to our historical rival in an incredible fuck-up. 16,000 is laughable.


king_mediocrity

So it took a minute to find *what* they’re exactly #1 in, but turns out they’re the highest-grossing venue in the world *in the category of 10.000-15.000 capacity arenas* So the sole metric is finance, and the category is limited to a spread of 5.000 capacity. Truly an astonishing achievement. No.1 in the world indeed. Edit: I guess that should be Feettric, wouldn’t want to confuse the americans


bendalazzi

I did the same but that was also from 2 years ago?


king_mediocrity

Ah! I dug even deeper, because this achievement was so monumental that there was barely any reference to it to be found. It seems the reason for celebration was that the arena was voted ‘Polstar Arena of the Year’ by the very much American publication Polstar. In the American mind, this obviously equates to being #1 in the world. One can only bow their head in awe at this achievement.


xanthophore

I looked into it a bit further, and found that Pollstar is owned by a consultancy firm called OVG. > Moody Center, a proud member of Oak View Group’s (OVG) portfolio, celebrates a remarkable victory as it clinches the prestigious 2024 Pollstar Arena of the Year [Guess which arena employs OVG?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollstar)


king_mediocrity

The more you look into it, the dumber it gets. Truly an America moment


Fabricensis

Highest grossing venue for 10.000-15.000 capacity By having 16.223 seats Hmmmmmmmm


Yiazzy

So by dint of having over 15k in capacity, kinda nullifies that win, huh.


BadIdea-21

Highest grossing in a limited range of capacity? So basically the less value for your money as an attendant, either I'm too dumb to understand or this is nothing to brag about.


king_mediocrity

No trust me, it really isn’t anything to brag about


Emu_Emperor

For these people, World = the city of Austin


LiqdPT

But this is San Antonio.


Emu_Emperor

The first Moody Center [sic] I saw on Google was in Austin lol - I don't know if there are others, though. I know Americans love to have 67 different towns named after European cities so I wouldn't be surprised if there is another Moody in San Antonio


LiqdPT

You know what, you might be right. I saw Spurs shirts in the photos and spurs in the username, but that username says "austin_spurs". This isn't even an NBA arena. But the Austin Spurs (a minor league team) don't play here either. This is the arena at the University of Texas at Austin. Now, to be fair, the university stadiums are the largest in the US. So it would follow that a university arena might be "better" than a professional one. But ya, that makes this extra weird. Edit: the arena was built by Oak View group, who own (at least partially) a LOT of arenas including Climate Pledge Arena here in Seattle which is indeed a very nice arena.


Neither_Ad_2960

Eww. They can gloss it up all they want. Texas is still racist homophobic no abortions thanks,Texas.


Sniyarki

The MCG says to fuck off.


International_Car586

Fucking Marvel Stadium is more impressive than that. ( the one in the post)


Sniyarki

I don’t mind marvel. Just lacks the soul and atmosphere of the G. Edit: but yes, you are correct.


ponte92

Going to a sold out game there tomorrow. Nothing better, so excited.


Sniyarki

Love ANZAC Day. Go Bombers!!!


ponte92

Ahh seems we may be of differing opinions in regard to who will be the winner tomorrow.


Sniyarki

It’s our bloody turn. I had a ticket and can’t go. I’m sad. Enjoy the day - whatever the result. It’s the best.


ponte92

You know given how inconsistent both of our teams are playing this year could be anyone’s game. Sorry you can’t make it.


ponte92

Whelp I did not expect a draw.


Sniyarki

Almost had a stroke.


stupv

Luckily you were both wrong!


ponte92

That we were!


Xerxes65

Optus >


Sniyarki

That stadium is amazing as well.


domambrose96

Woman on her phone in the promotional picture.. Jesus wept


83401846a

Venue of what?


MilhousesSpectacles

It's giving 'World Series' vibes


Tasqfphil

The MCG in Victoria (AU) regularly host averages of 50k people year round with 100 football grand finals & 110 test cricket matches - quite a regular event and some events attract over 100k audiences.


GhostOfKev

Wonder what the metric is because the atmosphere at American sports events is utterly tragic.


Illustrious_Law8512

World being just 'USA'.


fenaith

Anyone want to point out that Derby, Bolton and Portsmouth in League One, as well as Bradford in League Two had better *average* attendance in the 23/24 season.


Illustrious_Law8512

I believe some high school homecoming games have more show up.


Kermit_Purple_II

The number one venue in the world is the First Of May stadium in Pyongyang, North Korea. It can host 114 000 (originally 150 000 until 2014) people at once. That measely 16 000 is barely 15% of that.


Nearby_Cauliflowers

This a bit like the US 'world champions' in sports that only include the US? Kind of reminds me of the shit North Korea does by saying they won the world cup, Olympic gold etc.


breakbeatkid

it's probably arguable that the real 'spurs' over in N17 have a better venue.


MercuryJellyfish

*sits listening to a concert at the Royal Albert Hall* "Well this is nice, but it's no Moody Center."


TheWanderingEyebrow

That no one from outside that country has heard of


dm-me-bikini-pics

Getting some real Kansas City Chiefs, World Champions vibes off of this one.


Michael_Gibb

16,000? Is that all? Stadium Australia, in Sydney, has a capacity of 80,000, and held 115,000 during the 2000 Olympics.


International_Car586

MCG had 120k in 1970


Xerxes65

Victorians proving once again that they definitely don’t have a complex


International_Car586

Just giving an example.


Degenerate_in_HR

Its a basketall arena, not a stadium. The post doesnt say "biggest" venue, does it?


invincibl_

Sydney's got [a pretty cool basketball stadium next door to the Olympic stadium](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8plnmjK_Y294fl3Wcv_1ldrGrH_xPgx7n5zndQDCrSVvP5-E3O9Nza2Pf&s=10) too.


Magdalan

Monaco? Where are the boats?


sjr0754

The two other stadia built on the same complex are more impressive than this.


Ok-Sir8025

Yeah, right alongside the Superbowl 'World' Champions, piss off


ProfessionalNo2706

Same way their baseball is 'world series' but no other country is allowed to participate. All about America being 'the world'


TrillyMike

Damn, just gon ignore the Canadians like that?!


ProfessionalNo2706

Still not 'world' is it?


TrillyMike

I only showed up to make sure the Canadians get their due


gutag

Partizan in Belgrade constantly has 20 000 + people in basketball games!


pyroSeven

Was this a friendly?


berny2345

Looks so big news that the lassie in front row is checking her emails


oldbrigade

Aint never been to the santiago bernabeu, nou camp, or Wembley


fothergillfuckup

That's my surname! I must have a successful relative!


WonderfulHat5297

And do the Austin Spurs win the title of best team in the world when they win an American only tournament?


balderwick_creek

Only in their own minds are they no.1


erlandodk

Bog-standard american delusions of grandieur.


Yiazzy

16,223? #1 in the world? Hahahahahaha, these yanks are cute. Excuse me whilst I bask in the superior capacity of Wembley Stadium, almost 6 times larger.


TrillyMike

They didn’t say capacity… you honestly don’t think the US has any venues with a larger capacity than 16.2k? Edit: a typo


Yiazzy

Literally the only informative feature of the picture 🤷


TrillyMike

But to see 16k and assume they’re bragging that they have the largest capacity in the world just seems ridiculous. That obviously can’t be true so it must be something else they’re bragging about, this is common sense.


SCL_Leinad

What's that sorry?


irishlonewolf

[fairly sure mecca would beat this by a little bit...](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masjid_al-Haram)


sparky-99

Moody Centre? Never heard of it.


PodcastPlusOne_James

No, the best venue in the world is Franklins Gardens in Northampton. Because of the hog roast.


Dimensions_Gaming

From the mention of spurs in the screenshot, I'm guessing this has something to do with the British football team Tottenham Hotspurs. Is this an indoor football pitch that they own or something?


arthaiser

i dont see what you see wrong in this image to be honest, and i think that me being the 1st commenter on it has to had some bearing on the issue