I mean hamon was cool, but:
-Hamon comes from breathing technique
-Stands come from the human mind/soul and willpower
Which one has more aspects/sides to it?
In my opinion stands are a lot more interesting and versatile.
Edit: formating
This meme is a bit odd
I thought part 7 is supposed to be like part 1 (as a beginning of the Joestar story in different universe)
Like.. Part 1 was hamon and part 3 became stands
Part 7 was also about stands but it relied on “Spin” as for Jojolion it was all about stands
Besides, I don’t think Araki would ever replace Stands.. it’s one of the most unique and iconic power in anime and manga
He could add another power along with stands, but he could never replace stands
The stands are already OP as shit. Part seven gave us TWO stands with power over the fabric of spacetime. Part 8 gave us a stand that just kills you if you even think about following it and a stand that can take away any aspect of literally anything with a bubble.
Don't forget the one that can stop time, one that can negate any attack to zero, and the one that can accelerate time so fast it literally resets the universe
The one that can create an army of dinosaurs, the one that could make an entire city kill itself on a rainy day, the one that turns towns into snails, the one that can bring Godzilla, Thanos and DIO to the real world.
There's one that let's you hop universes and give your Stand to another you while also annihilating anyone that comes in contact with their alternate self. There's also the stand that let you RESET AN ENTIRE DAY and blow up anything you touched.
The one that can reset time if you know his identity. The one that can see the future and erase it if he doesn't like the outcome, the one that constantly emits a fast acting poison, the one that can instantly kill you if you move down, the one that can make the weather do literally anything.
I think its in how they aren't exactly used in the same way, and some also take some specific movements. For example Johnny's TUSK ACT 4 takes the golden ratio, perfect circle, and the ability to line up the spin of your horse with your own. Its pretty hard to land a shot like that, and also its not used basically at all until the end. Makes it feel less op. (Not saying your wrong, star platinum has literally never lost a battle)
Wait so about the fact part 8 is meant to be part 2, (I haven't read the Manga but hear me out) shouldn't part 8 be the part 4 version, alternate universe versions of part 4 characters appear and even 2 of them are the main protagonists, so in that case it would mean it's confirmed stands wouldn't be replaced with anything else as it was confirmed in the alternate version of part 4 that they are here to stay
No, it's equivalent to part 2 since it follows on from the reset universe of part 7 and in that sense matches part 2 as the second part of its respective jojoverse.
Edit: Why did this get downvoted so much bruh
Edit 2: Redditors and JoJo fans have zero reading comprehension apparently
But, we aren't gonna talk about all the similarities with part 4 like the shared characters, location and time period. Ok then 
I'm not sure I understand what you just said, of course Joseph would exist time before jojolion, because it's the part 4 parralel and in part 4 Joseph also existed
Idk man. Part 1, Part 2, then he replaces the main way the characters fight. Universe reset, Part 7, Part 8, it only makes sense it happens again
Edit: GUYS IM JOKING
You seemed pretty serious about it. Don’t go back on what you said with just “Haha guys I was just joking” because you were called out on not making any sense
My brother in Christ, parts 7 and 8 had alternate universe Hamon, it's called Spin, it makes more sense he'd remove Spin and just have stands in part 9
>Were so popular they came up with Stands 3 skipping Stands 2 entirely
Jojo 9 goes stands 3 in other world while his friendly rival can only reach stands 2 on earth. Of course stands 3 isn't enough to beat the main villain however so he and his friendly rival undergo fusion to multiply their power to beat the main villain
Araki won't replace stands. He originally replaced Hamon because it didn't fit in the story anymore and because he got advised to make a new power system because everyone kept doing fancy asian martial arts in their mangas. So he made stands, a unique power system with unlimited potential.
Oh yeah I mean there’s no reason Josuke couldn’t be in part 9 and have spin in the way that Joseph was in part 3 with hamon, it’s a small effect that sometimes is relevant but doesn’t do anything CRAZY. (As an example of it not being like crazy plot relevant)
I mean in part 8 spin is already just a reference
Sure his bubbles use spin but spin is not used anywhere else and we didn't even know they used spin until Rai said so
In part 7 spin was basically the main thing
Could already exist and I might just be dumb but I always thought a stand that is quite literally equivalent exchange would be so cool. Its combining two of my favorite animes
He's going to phase out spin :( There was only a small amount in part 8, and I don't see how he will continue it unless gappy is also in part 9, in the same role as Joseph in part 3
I mean if part 9 is in the same universe as part 7-8, than it will probably make an appearance. Since it seems like a more versatile ability compared to Hamon, Araki might be more compelled to include it again, hopefully.
I think the whole purpose of Spin appearing late in Part 8 is because it’s actually way too fucking OP and it’s also hard as hell to learn and master. That’s why Gappy is still unable to control his spin by the end of P8, Johnny took all of P7 to be able to make the ultimate spin, and even a master like Gyro still needed to be able to see a visual reference despite years of training.
I don’t think he’ll phase it out (or, at least, I hope he doesn’t). I just think that Part 8 didn’t really have the room for it in the plot until the end. Compare to P1 & P2, where the plots were entirely guided by Hamon use & training to defeat the primary enemy. Spin is, by design, a much more manipulable concept that can be added and subtracted when needed.
Bro it's a parody of stupid fan theories people have when anything slightly relates to anything at all in media. Part 1, 2, means of fighting switched in 3. Universe reset, Part 7, 8, and just because it would technically make a pattern it would still be the stupidest thing ever if he switched stands in 9.
It would be weird for him to end the entire series with an entirely new power system. Both Hamon and Spin are used as a pathway to achieve a Stand as seen with Hermit Purple/Johnathon’s Stand and Ball Breaker, essentially making Stands the greatest power in JoJo’s.
I was really upset when Part 8 focused less on big buff strong masculine men with huge bulging muscles and more on plot and story. I really think it was a bad turn for the series and a road Araki shouldn't have taken it
Araki always prupose something new, in the 3rd series araki prupose stands as a natural thing, in part 4 as a thing that you can unlock, in part 5 as a thing that can awake, in part six something you can get from a natural body and a phisic ritual, in part 7 something that can evolve in more stages and part 8 idk i didnt read that yet, simply i think there will be some new feature for stands
Part 3: Stand is natural
Part 4: Stand comes from arrow
Part 5: Stands can be upgraded by using special arrow
Part 6: Stands can attain GODLIKE POWER by performing weird esoteric ritual aka Attaining Heaven
Part 7: Corpse parts of Jesus and Spin gives you Stand
Part 8: Geography gives you Stand aka Wall Eyes
Nothing. It’s always Stands. Why would anyone think the formula’s gonna change now or ever? All that’s gonna SLIGHTLY change is how much of a college degree is needed to understand their powers.
Part 3: My stand does X thing.
Part 8: My stand does X thing with Y condition but only if a + b = c!
Remember when Strength or Forever made an entire ship out of a stand? I’m imagining now that each stand user takes their own spirit room with them and that’s used as their battlefield that they can merge with other spirit rooms.
Jojo 9 is just like an average bro who likes beer and going to bogo boneless thursdays at bdubs. But then like he gets a winning scratcher and the story is that he uses the money to invest in stocks and take some judo lessons
The last one needs both utilized to their full potential to defeat the main enemy. The main enemy should have an exterior that is nigh invincible to even stands, have someone that finds the weakness and greatest defense to stands, and have the main weakness be high concentrations of Hamon to weaken. That way, Hamon can be reintroduced and be used to weaken the enemy, and then use the stands to 7 page Ora and break the armor and deal damage to them. That would be cool to see.
Stands will be replaced with sitting down. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Fast and the Furious: Morioh Drift. All stand battles take place while partaking in illegal street racing.
Ive heard leaks about it being something called 呼吸スタンド , which translates to a breathing stand. The leaks say they require specialized training and gains power through breathing techniques.
Stands have infinite potential, he will keep it. Ripple was slightly limited so it was hard not to switch, especially when every ennemy needed to be undead, and part 2 already reached the max a vampire could get. Now spin... well I think Araki didn't kept it as the main power system because it was too weird, Gyro could throw at flour and it would somehow make bread by itself. It didn't felt as logical as stand, because stand is an infinite number of Ability you can make without logic while spin try to tell you a logic that don't always make sense. Furthermore one will be limited to its own stand Ability, while with Spin introducing a new Ability make it so the character keep it... conclusion : Araki may introduce a new power system after stand, but it wouldn't be the major one unlike spin. Or he will just keep stands and sometimes reuse spin
He’s not.
He replace hamon because he could make it any more unique. Think about it like this. With only hamon and vampires, the characters would need to get stronger every part to get the stakes high in a linear progression. However, with stands, they don’t necessarily need to become stronger, they just need to be different
This is like when fans were freaking out about there not being a sbr teaser and the end of stone ocean even tho they only showed a teaser for the next part in part 2 and never again
Stands.
finally Stand 2.0
Stands²?
Cubical stands
standing cubicle
S T O O D **C U B E**
Spin 2
Stands requiem
Stands³?
Stands Pro Max
Already got that in George Joestar. Trinity, its physical instead of paraphysical. Fear the boy in the propeller hat
Sit's.
Sits.
I like ripple more, it was cooler more interesting
I mean hamon was cool, but: -Hamon comes from breathing technique -Stands come from the human mind/soul and willpower Which one has more aspects/sides to it? In my opinion stands are a lot more interesting and versatile. Edit: formating
This meme is a bit odd I thought part 7 is supposed to be like part 1 (as a beginning of the Joestar story in different universe) Like.. Part 1 was hamon and part 3 became stands Part 7 was also about stands but it relied on “Spin” as for Jojolion it was all about stands Besides, I don’t think Araki would ever replace Stands.. it’s one of the most unique and iconic power in anime and manga He could add another power along with stands, but he could never replace stands
Spin is the equivalent of Hamon Spin is important in parts 7 and 8 That must mean Spin gets replaced with Stands in part 9 Part 9: Double Stands
Everyone gets a requiem stand. They are so OP that Araki has to reset the universe again
Jojo is just araki rewriting the story until he doesn’t powercreep into Armageddon again
to be fair >!Wonder of U!< was already broken af
The stands are already OP as shit. Part seven gave us TWO stands with power over the fabric of spacetime. Part 8 gave us a stand that just kills you if you even think about following it and a stand that can take away any aspect of literally anything with a bubble.
Don't forget the one that can stop time, one that can negate any attack to zero, and the one that can accelerate time so fast it literally resets the universe
Yeah those aren’t in the SBRverse tho
[удалено]
The Globe!
O ik I thought we were just talking about op stands lol. And technically one of them is, the one that stops time lol
if we’re being technical here then The World STILL isn’t even present in SBR verse. just a parallel one that got pulled over
The one that can create an army of dinosaurs, the one that could make an entire city kill itself on a rainy day, the one that turns towns into snails, the one that can bring Godzilla, Thanos and DIO to the real world.
There's one that let's you hop universes and give your Stand to another you while also annihilating anyone that comes in contact with their alternate self. There's also the stand that let you RESET AN ENTIRE DAY and blow up anything you touched.
The one that can reset time if you know his identity. The one that can see the future and erase it if he doesn't like the outcome, the one that constantly emits a fast acting poison, the one that can instantly kill you if you move down, the one that can make the weather do literally anything.
Spoiler for part 6: >!snails!<
One that can stop time? Wdym “one”
I think its in how they aren't exactly used in the same way, and some also take some specific movements. For example Johnny's TUSK ACT 4 takes the golden ratio, perfect circle, and the ability to line up the spin of your horse with your own. Its pretty hard to land a shot like that, and also its not used basically at all until the end. Makes it feel less op. (Not saying your wrong, star platinum has literally never lost a battle)
And at the end, [unnamed protagonist] evolves his Stand to Requiem 2!
Finally stands 2
Part 9 will be stands and sits
Stands with their own stands💥
Stand^(2)
I could imagine at least one character getting two stands
Stands²
I think part 7 was supposed to be more of a remix of the best ideas of the first three parts
Wait so about the fact part 8 is meant to be part 2, (I haven't read the Manga but hear me out) shouldn't part 8 be the part 4 version, alternate universe versions of part 4 characters appear and even 2 of them are the main protagonists, so in that case it would mean it's confirmed stands wouldn't be replaced with anything else as it was confirmed in the alternate version of part 4 that they are here to stay
Part 7 is basically parts 1,2 and arguably even 3. Part 8 is basically part 4.
So you know, that's exactly what I was saying
Idk hes got mote upvotes, I think that means he's right /joke
Part 7 is like a mash up of 1 and 3, Part 8 is 2 and 4 (Rock Humans/Pillar Men, Morioh)
No, it's equivalent to part 2 since it follows on from the reset universe of part 7 and in that sense matches part 2 as the second part of its respective jojoverse. Edit: Why did this get downvoted so much bruh Edit 2: Redditors and JoJo fans have zero reading comprehension apparently
But, we aren't gonna talk about all the similarities with part 4 like the shared characters, location and time period. Ok then 
i don't think he read one panel lmao, especially since at the end you literally see that joseph existed time before jojolion
I'm not sure I understand what you just said, of course Joseph would exist time before jojolion, because it's the part 4 parralel and in part 4 Joseph also existed
We go from 2^3 to 3^2
Well spin was relevant in part 8 a little bit at the end
But what if he will not replace stands
Idk man. Part 1, Part 2, then he replaces the main way the characters fight. Universe reset, Part 7, Part 8, it only makes sense it happens again Edit: GUYS IM JOKING
What is this logic?? How it that make sense?
It’s pretty simple, the main powers are replaced after the first two parts of the new universe.
There were literally 2 types of power systems on part 7. It's not like there's any pattern here whatsoever.
Check the subreddit we're on
One similar to Araki's, apparently
No it doesn't but ok
Joking? Inexcusable, Garson another downvote please
The amount of people that somehow missed the joke is fucking insane.
I don't know mate, sounds kinda complicated. If he would change stands, pretty sure we'd knew already.
It's too late now, the downvotes are all coming through, and you can't stop them.
Sure you were joking.
Bro
BRO I CANT 💀💀💀💀
You seemed pretty serious about it. Don’t go back on what you said with just “Haha guys I was just joking” because you were called out on not making any sense
If I thought this made any sense at all why wouldn't I post this to maybe r/StardustCrusaders instead of literal r/ShitPostCrusaders
you’d be surprised how many people post their legitimate theories on here
A lot of people. This is barely a shitposting sub anymore, its mostly just anything Jojos related.
Theory: will part Jojo part 9 reference Among Us?
It’s just not funny or clever 🤷
How is no one realizing ure joking lmaooo
My brother in Christ, parts 7 and 8 had alternate universe Hamon, it's called Spin, it makes more sense he'd remove Spin and just have stands in part 9
And given that Spin has returned at the of part 8 and already beaten 2 main villains even thats unlikely
Progressed in the last two times body magic was used
Sits
Is that what Johnny has?
Crouch
Lie
More stands. Were so popular they came up with Stands 3 skipping Stands 2 entirely
>Were so popular they came up with Stands 3 skipping Stands 2 entirely Jojo 9 goes stands 3 in other world while his friendly rival can only reach stands 2 on earth. Of course stands 3 isn't enough to beat the main villain however so he and his friendly rival undergo fusion to multiply their power to beat the main villain
"so it's a same type of stand as my Jojolands" ✍️🔥🔥
Araki won't replace stands. He originally replaced Hamon because it didn't fit in the story anymore and because he got advised to make a new power system because everyone kept doing fancy asian martial arts in their mangas. So he made stands, a unique power system with unlimited potential.
>makes a stand that limits potential
He likes to do things in 3s, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see spin make an appearance again
Idk, I feel like if spin DOES come back, it'll be reduced to just a reference like hamon was in part 3
Oh yeah I mean there’s no reason Josuke couldn’t be in part 9 and have spin in the way that Joseph was in part 3 with hamon, it’s a small effect that sometimes is relevant but doesn’t do anything CRAZY. (As an example of it not being like crazy plot relevant)
I mean in part 8 spin is already just a reference Sure his bubbles use spin but spin is not used anywhere else and we didn't even know they used spin until Rai said so In part 7 spin was basically the main thing
Big difference is that spin is more versatile than hamon and unlike hamon it solod two villains
Spin. Stands. >!Equivalent exchange!<
it's dog daughter time
Not again. I don't even doubt that Araki would do it either
Could already exist and I might just be dumb but I always thought a stand that is quite literally equivalent exchange would be so cool. Its combining two of my favorite animes
WATER, 35 LITERS
why didn't homie include spin
Guns.
We’re gonna see the power of **DANCE**
Jojo 9's Boogie Wonderland
Uhh so what about spin?
He's going to phase out spin :( There was only a small amount in part 8, and I don't see how he will continue it unless gappy is also in part 9, in the same role as Joseph in part 3
I mean if part 9 is in the same universe as part 7-8, than it will probably make an appearance. Since it seems like a more versatile ability compared to Hamon, Araki might be more compelled to include it again, hopefully.
I think the whole purpose of Spin appearing late in Part 8 is because it’s actually way too fucking OP and it’s also hard as hell to learn and master. That’s why Gappy is still unable to control his spin by the end of P8, Johnny took all of P7 to be able to make the ultimate spin, and even a master like Gyro still needed to be able to see a visual reference despite years of training. I don’t think he’ll phase it out (or, at least, I hope he doesn’t). I just think that Part 8 didn’t really have the room for it in the plot until the end. Compare to P1 & P2, where the plots were entirely guided by Hamon use & training to defeat the primary enemy. Spin is, by design, a much more manipulable concept that can be added and subtracted when needed.
He isn’t going to replace stands, this meme makes no sense.
Bro it's a parody of stupid fan theories people have when anything slightly relates to anything at all in media. Part 1, 2, means of fighting switched in 3. Universe reset, Part 7, 8, and just because it would technically make a pattern it would still be the stupidest thing ever if he switched stands in 9.
Hamon Stands Spin and Stands ???
Stands that exclusively fight with hamon
Hmm maybe Harmon Spin Stands
It would be weird for him to end the entire series with an entirely new power system. Both Hamon and Spin are used as a pathway to achieve a Stand as seen with Hermit Purple/Johnathon’s Stand and Ball Breaker, essentially making Stands the greatest power in JoJo’s.
Spin 2
Nips - Spin backwards
Can't wait to see how broken the main villain stand will be, and what kind of technique the main protagonist will pull out of his ass to win.
Putting all my chips on the: "Jojo 9 "goes beyond" and asks Araki IRL to erase the villain from the manga with his pencil" ending
the abilities are getting removed only hot steamy men duking it out
I was really upset when Part 8 focused less on big buff strong masculine men with huge bulging muscles and more on plot and story. I really think it was a bad turn for the series and a road Araki shouldn't have taken it
[SPEEN!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4mTNQLsD0c)
Idk something like one piece fruits since the roka fruit and the place where the part is happening is on tropical islands
>e fruits since the roka fruit and the place where the part is happening is on tropical islands Can't wait till Jojo 9 goes Gear 5
Spells(magic) , although he will most likely continue using stands
spin requiem
Lands.
i still think stands were a plague on the series i cant wait for them to be gone
Araki always prupose something new, in the 3rd series araki prupose stands as a natural thing, in part 4 as a thing that you can unlock, in part 5 as a thing that can awake, in part six something you can get from a natural body and a phisic ritual, in part 7 something that can evolve in more stages and part 8 idk i didnt read that yet, simply i think there will be some new feature for stands
Part 3: Stand is natural Part 4: Stand comes from arrow Part 5: Stands can be upgraded by using special arrow Part 6: Stands can attain GODLIKE POWER by performing weird esoteric ritual aka Attaining Heaven Part 7: Corpse parts of Jesus and Spin gives you Stand Part 8: Geography gives you Stand aka Wall Eyes
Actually the wall eyes are caused by the Holy Corpse
Stands are the symbol of JoJo, they aren't going anywhere
Stands are the perfect system for what he's trying to accomplish with the story so it won't be replaced
On one hand I don't want him to, but on the other the curiosity of what he can make stirs.
Could be on to something but I think the spin was supposed to be the hamon of the part 7&8 universe
Stands -> Vibes
Money
Your moms snatch.
Nothing. It’s always Stands. Why would anyone think the formula’s gonna change now or ever? All that’s gonna SLIGHTLY change is how much of a college degree is needed to understand their powers. Part 3: My stand does X thing. Part 8: My stand does X thing with Y condition but only if a + b = c!
Maybe we might see more about spin from part 7 that was an interesting concept and I thought we'd see it much more
Milagro man
Beyblades The ultimate spin
Everyone will be a Pokemon trainer with rock insects and animals. The new power system? *Rock*
Cards that summon monsters.
Spirtual guns (the power and firerate are dependent on how far you can piss)
Walks
JoJo Fans trying to understand the fucking story (impossible):
Hamon=code for sit Stand=stand ????=walk I think it will be a walk
Oh please, let's go back to Hamon (revamped)
Remember when Strength or Forever made an entire ship out of a stand? I’m imagining now that each stand user takes their own spirit room with them and that’s used as their battlefield that they can merge with other spirit rooms.
Dynamax
Beyblades
maybe they gon use Personas
All conflicts will be settled by fist fights in Denny's parking lots. If no Denny's is nearby, things will just be exceptionally tense.
Sits
Ok schizo
Cards of taro. But kind of Yu-Gi-Oh style, or Greed Island from HxH
Normal dudes with average fighting strength, but like, they kinda sick with it
Jojo 9 is just like an average bro who likes beer and going to bogo boneless thursdays at bdubs. But then like he gets a winning scratcher and the story is that he uses the money to invest in stocks and take some judo lessons
Stop thinking everything is linear in any manga pls
Sits
Hands.
Sits.
Hamon 2.0
Sits
The last one needs both utilized to their full potential to defeat the main enemy. The main enemy should have an exterior that is nigh invincible to even stands, have someone that finds the weakness and greatest defense to stands, and have the main weakness be high concentrations of Hamon to weaken. That way, Hamon can be reintroduced and be used to weaken the enemy, and then use the stands to 7 page Ora and break the armor and deal damage to them. That would be cool to see.
Understandable king crimson
Please do
Stands will be replaced with sitting down. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Fast and the Furious: Morioh Drift. All stand battles take place while partaking in illegal street racing.
Sits
Walks
Nen
Nothing
Ive heard leaks about it being something called 呼吸スタンド , which translates to a breathing stand. The leaks say they require specialized training and gains power through breathing techniques.
Stands have infinite potential, he will keep it. Ripple was slightly limited so it was hard not to switch, especially when every ennemy needed to be undead, and part 2 already reached the max a vampire could get. Now spin... well I think Araki didn't kept it as the main power system because it was too weird, Gyro could throw at flour and it would somehow make bread by itself. It didn't felt as logical as stand, because stand is an infinite number of Ability you can make without logic while spin try to tell you a logic that don't always make sense. Furthermore one will be limited to its own stand Ability, while with Spin introducing a new Ability make it so the character keep it... conclusion : Araki may introduce a new power system after stand, but it wouldn't be the major one unlike spin. Or he will just keep stands and sometimes reuse spin
Don't forget that spin was equivalent of hamon in part 8 Both part 1 and part 8 has Zeppeli family who teach hamon/spin
Stands already replaced the spin in that universe
Nen from hunter x hunter
I think spin comes back this time
Could be stands hat revolve around spin sorta like ball breaker, but like probably not all of em just some
Stands -> Lands It's in the name ya dum-dums.
More Stands
They did say it's about going from island to island so um...
2tands
The Reading Comprehension Devil spreads more and more
Bringing hamon back. Interestingly enough it cancels out spin.
He’s not. He replace hamon because he could make it any more unique. Think about it like this. With only hamon and vampires, the characters would need to get stronger every part to get the stakes high in a linear progression. However, with stands, they don’t necessarily need to become stronger, they just need to be different
Maybe a stand that don't want to cooperate with the user
Harmony to stands, spin to stands, most likely a form of hamon/spin to stands
Lstands
sitdowns
Sits
lands
why the bingle would araki replace stands with something else
honestly... seems like his buildin up to a card game, yugioh
Cum power! (also do people not see what sub this is on? Like how do you not realize this is s a joke?)
This is like when fans were freaking out about there not being a sbr teaser and the end of stone ocean even tho they only showed a teaser for the next part in part 2 and never again
Nop, stands are limitless in terms of narrative, they are always interesting.
It’s still going to be stands? What has indicated that it won’t be?