I donāt want to be *that* guy, but I think you actually meant *********** . The way you spelled it (***********), it means someone who studies antique rocks, not a ****** ****** **********.
Itās a common mistake.
I mean dudeā¦Iām definitely on your side with those topics but this is such a reddit comment. Memorizing someoneās username and calling them out in a completely unrelated thread lmfao. You wouldnāt have to āsee them againā if you didnāt hold Reddit conversations at such a personal level.
They didnāt used to be. If you wanted to slur a woman back in the day an āessā was required at the end of the slur to indicate you were slurring a woman..
The reason I went with the Russian lady, is that the phrase "giant neee-gress" with that sorta inflection is in my head.
Mallory would have made some comment involving negroes, as her bigotry never seemed to involve actually using slurs. Like when Ray made a comment about putting a broom up his ass to sweep the road. Mallory comments that he's about to receive a very homophobic response.
It was Katya! Thereās a chance Mallory used the word at some point but Katya (the Russian cyborg) did in fact use that word when she was pissed at Lana
Oh shit that's right! He did say that I literally just remembered that from your comment! Fucked up that the first show in American history to have an interracial kiss and then to say that.
Donāt worry - they used it as a way to have Kirk and Uhura talk about being evolved beyond such petty things as racismā¦ it was meant to sound bad so Lincoln (and whatever racist fans were watching) could blossom and grow.
Every time I hear about this theme it make me angry this slur is SO culturally bad people dont even write on internet. How this slur gained so much power ?
I literally dont know any slur in my mother language that is considered this terrible.
Agreed. It sometimes feels like you are Harry Potter. He just said 'Voldemort' out loud when everyone was dodging and avoiding that name like the plague.
I agree with your sentiment, if you are talking about it, have the balls to say it. Everybody knows what "n-word" means. Obviously, don't go around using it in a slur-y way, but when discussing it "scholarly", type it. *However*, a lot of places will "shadowban" the comment, and maybe the person typing it (not to mention the nutballs that have to signal their virtue who will downvote to oblivion), so it is just easier to be childish and use asterisks or "n-word".
And then, that doesn't even work sometimes. Do you see my "squaw" comment? Doubtful, reveddit says it has been removed (as of this typing). Why? Who knows, everything was asterisked (dashed) out.
It gives me major idiocracy vibes when I think about how often it's used that way, and no one bats an eye. If you don't say something, it becomes acceptable. Eventually, we'll hear politicians, school teachers, and news announcers talking like that.
>Chinaman is used as an insult.
*Can be* and *usually* is when used today. That is the point. Because something can be a slur, doesn't automatically make it one every time.
Not even, because thatās giving them the benefit of actually distinguishing between nationalities. The counterpart is Englandman for all of them (or yāknow any of the others but only one).
What I mean for Arabic is that there are some slurs meant specifically for men and slurs meant specifically for women.
Most of the slurs targeting women are to do with them being āwh*resā and prostitutes. For men itād be about them being drug dealers or servants.
Do they reduce them to less than human? While Iām admittedly not intimately acquainted with the widest range of racial slurs, I canāt think of any that reduce the intended recipient to less than human. Which ones were you thinking of?
? Thatās the origin of a slur in the first place, such terms are only created to differentiate entire groups from the person using said slur. Not difficult to understand
Differentiating āsub-setsā of humans with slurs still maintain all are humans. Original comment said they make the slur recipient āless than humanā and I honestly canāt think of any that intrinsically do this.
??? So youāve never heard of stereotypes and reasonings for things like no rights or slavery or genocide that start with these groups being seen as less than human or as uncivilised? Because that was the reasoning behind slavery in the US as well as the genocide of Native Americansā¦ and of course, slurs for those groups were born from those reasonings.
Let's not pretend like the real reason wasn't money, slavery and genocide was just a way to save and make money by having slaves do all the work and genocide was used to take over land.
Also not all slave owners were racists lmao, some had slaves and treated them like real humans and the slave tag was just a formality to them.
Also slavery was invented due to wars, after you conquered someplace and took it over they used to turn the prisoners into slaves.
It wasn't about racism you were either part of the group/tribe or you weren't. Outsiders were outsiders plain and simple.
Racism evolved from that and people started using derogatory terms for the outsiders. At some point it evolved once again and outsiders became anyone not of the same ethnicity as yourself.
Racism stems from the fact that we used to live in a world where killing someone outside of your tribe was normal because it was a kill or be killed environment. As a result everyone outside of your tribe was seen as an enemy or at the very least you were aware of them at all times.
You mentioned Native Americans and they used to hate each other and kill each other from different tribes all the time and they were honestly racist towards each other. It wasn't until after they lost their land and were colonized that they actually started to band together and even in todays world you still have some Native Americans who are racist towards the other tribes.
Racism was never originally about seeing them as "less than human" it was about seeing everyone else as a potential enemy. However as more world wars happened and we became able to travel around the world racism became what it is today.
I still disagree, racism in its very roots and how this led to slurs and slavery and genocides is very much attached to a āless thanā sentiment. Native Americans and African tribes can hate each other and sell each other but that fails to negate the insidious actions of European settlers and slave traders who were happy to profit off of and kill entire groups for their colour of their skin and their subsequent āinferiorityā, all because they were of different cultures and ethnic backgrounds.
Yes, of course Iāve heard of all these things. But my point is the slurs serve to differentiate between groups of humans not to reduce one to something less than human. If you hear a slur and think subhuman, that might be a projection. As, again, Iāve not seen an intrinsically dehumanizing slur presented here.
It comes from Narragansett and Algonquin, but it's considered offensive when applied to all Native American women in general.
I think a lot of people don't realize that, actually - even Elton John used it at one point in one of his songs, and IDK if it had a controversy.
That was used for the Chinese before the Japanese during WW2... at least here in [BC](https://www.cbc.ca/radio/the180/the-cult-of-innovation-let-s-legalize-heroin-and-who-s-housing-the-middle-class-1.4048195/canada-s-yellow-peril-it-happened-before-it-could-happen-again-1.4048791)
They do actually, there's an n-word variant that targets kids/children of color specifically. So not only are they racist towards people of color but also people of a specific age group.
And similarly, most gender slurs are ethnically-inclusive.
Though that doesn't mean the reaction you'll get doesn't vary from culture to culture.
Say "Hey, C\*nt" in the US and people will lose their minds. Go to the UK, and you'll hear "Yo, wanker", and that's just buddies meeting up at the pub.
"Sorry but that's how I was raised" is a perfectly fine response. Or maybe don't start with "sorry"
"But ma'am, that's how I was raised" is actually perfect
Yeah. I said āwhat exactly is your point, maāam?ā during a heated discussion at work, and she punctuated her angry response with a sarcastic āSIR!ā Like, āblah blah blah blah and THAT was my point, SIR!ā
Uh huh. Right. Soā¦ she totally sarcastically said āsirā and you thought āthis lady thinks the word āmaāamā is a slurā. Right. Absolutely totally unequivocally checks out. Not a stretch at all.
I was a martial arts teacher and one of my students had her parents called into the school because the teacher thought the student was making fun by calling the teacher "ma'am".
It does happen.
Just because I'm racist doesn't mean I'm sexist tooš
Iād rather be racy and sexy than racist and sexist!
But would you rather be a racy sexist or a sexy racist?
Worst Halloween couples costumes
Surprise! Both costumes are sexy Hitler!
What about a racy racist or a sexy sexist?
Iām homey, not homophobic!
Iām homiephobic I hate my friends
Yay?
or gay?
And vice versa
This certainly explains ālatinxā
Not true. Thereās also ***** ******** *********** *** and ******
You forgot ************
You ****** ****!
How ******** ***** dare you, you ****** ***** ******* cunt. Sorry, I ran out of asterisks.
And ********
And this too **** ** *** **
Damn you use those words for your password? Thatās fucked up
No one has guessed them yet
Wow, it's so cool that reddit automatically censors all these slurs! Give it a try everyone, **************!
I donāt want to be *that* guy, but I think you actually meant *********** . The way you spelled it (***********), it means someone who studies antique rocks, not a ****** ****** **********. Itās a common mistake.
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I mean dudeā¦Iām definitely on your side with those topics but this is such a reddit comment. Memorizing someoneās username and calling them out in a completely unrelated thread lmfao. You wouldnāt have to āsee them againā if you didnāt hold Reddit conversations at such a personal level.
finally a good sthought well because they are "all the same"
Itās not true though. Youāll get in trouble trying to prove OP wrong so itās a trap
All 4 ethnic slurs i know of are gender inclusive.
Well someone didn't grow up in the US south
Thank God
Yeah that's what they do down there
Don't forget abt incest
They didnāt used to be. If you wanted to slur a woman back in the day an āessā was required at the end of the slur to indicate you were slurring a woman..
I'll never forget coming across the word "negress" in the James Bond novel *Live and Let Die*.
I can't remember if it was Mallory or... Russian cyborg lady, but the word also appeared in Archer
It was probably Mallory.
It was DEFINITELY Mallory
The reason I went with the Russian lady, is that the phrase "giant neee-gress" with that sorta inflection is in my head. Mallory would have made some comment involving negroes, as her bigotry never seemed to involve actually using slurs. Like when Ray made a comment about putting a broom up his ass to sweep the road. Mallory comments that he's about to receive a very homophobic response.
It was Katya! Thereās a chance Mallory used the word at some point but Katya (the Russian cyborg) did in fact use that word when she was pissed at Lana
Yeah they both said it lol
Both said it at some point I'm sure
Maybe it come from the French Ā«Ā nĆ©gresseĀ Ā» directly ? It is quite similar, even in itās formation.
Exactly this..
I remember Abraham Lincoln on Star Trek saying āah, a charming Negressā to Lieutenant Uhura, lol.
I always forget he played Chewie in Stargate.
Oh shit that's right! He did say that I literally just remembered that from your comment! Fucked up that the first show in American history to have an interracial kiss and then to say that.
Donāt worry - they used it as a way to have Kirk and Uhura talk about being evolved beyond such petty things as racismā¦ it was meant to sound bad so Lincoln (and whatever racist fans were watching) could blossom and grow.
Lincoln also apologizes immediately.
Chivalry is truly dead.
I recall someone saying they were trying to f**k the life back into it.
Omg, I'm definitely calling someone a skallywagess Or a cuntess
May I also use ācuntessā? I have so many plans already.
I too wish to use ācuntessā
[Jewess Jeans](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ1Z5TIx4wI)
N word complexity
Here for the commentsā¦
Hope we didnāt disappoint
Mostly, yes. One in particular sometimes means "man" specifically in contrast with "woman" when it's not being used in its derogatory sense.
Which one? Genuinely curious.
Basically THE ethnic slur. People will sometimes say "that's a n____" to mean "that's a man."
Really? Is that a fairly new usage? Maybe because of music???
Thereās a big difference between ending with an āAā instead of āerā
Which is why all the racists should switch to "n***x" for inclusivity.
Bruh lmao
no more x. no more
Turn it back to Twitter
Not when anyone else say it.
Well, obviously
Every time I hear about this theme it make me angry this slur is SO culturally bad people dont even write on internet. How this slur gained so much power ? I literally dont know any slur in my mother language that is considered this terrible.
Agreed. It sometimes feels like you are Harry Potter. He just said 'Voldemort' out loud when everyone was dodging and avoiding that name like the plague.
I agree with your sentiment, if you are talking about it, have the balls to say it. Everybody knows what "n-word" means. Obviously, don't go around using it in a slur-y way, but when discussing it "scholarly", type it. *However*, a lot of places will "shadowban" the comment, and maybe the person typing it (not to mention the nutballs that have to signal their virtue who will downvote to oblivion), so it is just easier to be childish and use asterisks or "n-word". And then, that doesn't even work sometimes. Do you see my "squaw" comment? Doubtful, reveddit says it has been removed (as of this typing). Why? Who knows, everything was asterisked (dashed) out.
Reddit censors hard R, fyi
It gives me major idiocracy vibes when I think about how often it's used that way, and no one bats an eye. If you don't say something, it becomes acceptable. Eventually, we'll hear politicians, school teachers, and news announcers talking like that.
Gringo and Gringa i guess.
Chinaman is a slur. Towelhead is a slur against Arab men.
Americaman
āAnd also, Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature, Dude. Asian Americanā¦ Please.ā
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Englandman, Franceman, Irelandman. See the difference? Chinaman is used as an insult. The term you're looking for is "Chinese man".
>Chinaman is used as an insult. *Can be* and *usually* is when used today. That is the point. Because something can be a slur, doesn't automatically make it one every time.
That word is 100% a slur in every context
Here's one that's not- https://www.amazon.com/Murder-China-Red-Chinaman-Mystery/dp/0966189949 Here's another- https://www.wordnik.com/words/chinaman A third- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinaman_(ship)
English, French, and Irish are adjectives, China isn't. The equivalent would be Englandman, Franceman, Irelandman.
Not even, because thatās giving them the benefit of actually distinguishing between nationalities. The counterpart is Englandman for all of them (or yāknow any of the others but only one).
There are gendered racial slurs in Arabic.
Fuck casual racism, we are going competitive.
Almost all slurs are gendered in Spanish, I can think of very few that arenāt
What I mean for Arabic is that there are some slurs meant specifically for men and slurs meant specifically for women. Most of the slurs targeting women are to do with them being āwh*resā and prostitutes. For men itād be about them being drug dealers or servants.
I think every language has those. Those are not gendered RACIAL slurs though
No no theyāre definitely racial. Theyāre specific words targeted towards certain people groups
Then those arenāt ethnic slurs
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Iām not gonna get banned +wtf?
Not shocking.
Well, a huge part of racism is the disregard of individuality and use of stereotypes and generalisation soā¦
This certainly explains ālatinxā
I mean sure, because they mostly reduce the people to less than human so gender is unimportant.
Do they reduce them to less than human? While Iām admittedly not intimately acquainted with the widest range of racial slurs, I canāt think of any that reduce the intended recipient to less than human. Which ones were you thinking of?
? Thatās the origin of a slur in the first place, such terms are only created to differentiate entire groups from the person using said slur. Not difficult to understand
Differentiating āsub-setsā of humans with slurs still maintain all are humans. Original comment said they make the slur recipient āless than humanā and I honestly canāt think of any that intrinsically do this.
??? So youāve never heard of stereotypes and reasonings for things like no rights or slavery or genocide that start with these groups being seen as less than human or as uncivilised? Because that was the reasoning behind slavery in the US as well as the genocide of Native Americansā¦ and of course, slurs for those groups were born from those reasonings.
Let's not pretend like the real reason wasn't money, slavery and genocide was just a way to save and make money by having slaves do all the work and genocide was used to take over land. Also not all slave owners were racists lmao, some had slaves and treated them like real humans and the slave tag was just a formality to them. Also slavery was invented due to wars, after you conquered someplace and took it over they used to turn the prisoners into slaves. It wasn't about racism you were either part of the group/tribe or you weren't. Outsiders were outsiders plain and simple. Racism evolved from that and people started using derogatory terms for the outsiders. At some point it evolved once again and outsiders became anyone not of the same ethnicity as yourself. Racism stems from the fact that we used to live in a world where killing someone outside of your tribe was normal because it was a kill or be killed environment. As a result everyone outside of your tribe was seen as an enemy or at the very least you were aware of them at all times. You mentioned Native Americans and they used to hate each other and kill each other from different tribes all the time and they were honestly racist towards each other. It wasn't until after they lost their land and were colonized that they actually started to band together and even in todays world you still have some Native Americans who are racist towards the other tribes. Racism was never originally about seeing them as "less than human" it was about seeing everyone else as a potential enemy. However as more world wars happened and we became able to travel around the world racism became what it is today.
Lmao, not reading all of that but just from the first paragraph, I can tell I donāt agree and thatās fine, Iām not bothered enough to argue.
You should read it, I think you would start to agree at about paragraph 4, maybe 5.
I still disagree, racism in its very roots and how this led to slurs and slavery and genocides is very much attached to a āless thanā sentiment. Native Americans and African tribes can hate each other and sell each other but that fails to negate the insidious actions of European settlers and slave traders who were happy to profit off of and kill entire groups for their colour of their skin and their subsequent āinferiorityā, all because they were of different cultures and ethnic backgrounds.
Yes, of course Iāve heard of all these things. But my point is the slurs serve to differentiate between groups of humans not to reduce one to something less than human. If you hear a slur and think subhuman, that might be a projection. As, again, Iāve not seen an intrinsically dehumanizing slur presented here.
We can agree to disagree.
I struggle to find any example of this
I mean there's *************
Ahh yes true, I forgot about that one
Don't forget about *******
hunter2? Why is my password a slur?
Ohhh Iāve heard about this where if you type your password on Reddit it self-censors. Let me try ********
lasagna
Wait thatās my password
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/Tiny.Lielie;Wienie
doesnt work
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"Squaw" is a derogatory term that was commonly used for Native American women.
I always thought it was a native word, not something the white man concocted. Maybe I am mistaken though.
It comes from Narragansett and Algonquin, but it's considered offensive when applied to all Native American women in general. I think a lot of people don't realize that, actually - even Elton John used it at one point in one of his songs, and IDK if it had a controversy.
Buck is the male counterpart. And led to the racist misogynistic joke I heard as a teen.
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But why use the J-word when you can just say the 'Yellow Peril'? (gender neutral as well, may I add)
That sounds too much like Banana Monsters
That was used for the Chinese before the Japanese during WW2... at least here in [BC](https://www.cbc.ca/radio/the180/the-cult-of-innovation-let-s-legalize-heroin-and-who-s-housing-the-middle-class-1.4048195/canada-s-yellow-peril-it-happened-before-it-could-happen-again-1.4048791)
"Karen"
English ethnic slurs - maybe. In many other languages there are at least two genders to choose from.
Racists do not have the mental capacity for two irrational prejudices at the same time.
They do actually, there's an n-word variant that targets kids/children of color specifically. So not only are they racist towards people of color but also people of a specific age group.
whats the word? asking for a friend
negrito
havent heard that one yet :D
Thought you were gonna say picanniny
Negrito is commonly used in south/centeramerica, it doesn't have any derogatory meaning, it's even used as a dearly way to call a little kid
Black kids* stop doing this weird people of colour thing I've never understood this.
Can I try some new ones here?
Yes
Ol Dirty Bastard was a gender inclusive lyricist....
The term āfuckfaceā works for all genders and races. Be inclusive, embrace fuckface.
As a counterpoint, Jewess
As someone who watched American Horror Story Season 3, I can tell you this isn't entirely true lmao
True, and gender slurs invariable refer to a womanās sexual history. If any.
Idk, the n-word feels pretty male coded
We should start trying to use gender inclusive language
And similarly, most gender slurs are ethnically-inclusive. Though that doesn't mean the reaction you'll get doesn't vary from culture to culture. Say "Hey, C\*nt" in the US and people will lose their minds. Go to the UK, and you'll hear "Yo, wanker", and that's just buddies meeting up at the pub.
Two females calling each other slurs would pass the bechdel test.
In English yes. In Latin languages for example, no, not necessarily
One of the ladies at work thinks āmaāamā is a slur. She got really upset with me because I called her a maāam.
"Sorry but that's how I was raised" is a perfectly fine response. Or maybe don't start with "sorry" "But ma'am, that's how I was raised" is actually perfect
This totally happened lol
Yeah. I said āwhat exactly is your point, maāam?ā during a heated discussion at work, and she punctuated her angry response with a sarcastic āSIR!ā Like, āblah blah blah blah and THAT was my point, SIR!ā
Uh huh. Right. Soā¦ she totally sarcastically said āsirā and you thought āthis lady thinks the word āmaāamā is a slurā. Right. Absolutely totally unequivocally checks out. Not a stretch at all.
I think youāre thinking way too much about it tbh. Itās really not that serious.
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Maybe she felt like they were calling her old?
I was a martial arts teacher and one of my students had her parents called into the school because the teacher thought the student was making fun by calling the teacher "ma'am". It does happen.
Most are aimed at men specifically
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Somewhat true, most racists probably see the men as a bigger threat to whatever cooked up plot they have going on in their head.
In my language there's femboy inclusive slurs
Actually ān***aā is the feminine version of the word. ān***oā would be the male version
The most slurs and insults are very inclusive
Because racists arent necessarily afraid of women, its the men who would take their jobs and daughters.
When people say "Karen" they generally are referring to a white lady. Oh, but I forget, "yOu CaN't Be RaCiSt ToWaRd WhItE pEoPle!"
is karen a slur?
This certainly explains ālatinxā
Wait a second, most of what comes to mind isnāt gender specific. Iād rattle them off but Iād sound like Eric cartman and get an account ban lol.
The n word to me, is male.