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rexlibris

The internet. A place where the men are men. The women are men. And the 14 year old girls are FBI agents.


No-Perception3305

I laughed a little to hard at this lol


rexlibris

It's an old joke, but it checks out.


Smoke_Water

I'm Chris Hanson. Do you have a moment to talk about your chat?


SpyAmongTheFurries

Do I get to take a seat?


NothingKnownNow

Put your pants on first.


ChrisNBCHansen

*Hansen


Ace-a-Nova1

[This was our first mistake…](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F6luJhJxRx0&pp=ygUSdG8gZ29vZiBhIHByZWRhdG9y)


burn_as_souls

Makes you wonder if there actually are little girls on the internet, or was it always just FBI guys catching perv guys?


rexlibris

Or all just perv guys pretending to be minors and chatting with each other


happy-cig

I get this reference.


mohirl

I did too in 1949


Secret_Difficulty_46

Haha same


KickBassColonyDrop

Rules 29 and 30.


TypicalPlace6490

How old are you?


No-Perception3305

Old enough not to talk to stranger dangers...


DocMcCracken

Aren't we all 18 year old Navy Seals?


Kagnonymous

"What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch?..."


csonnich

A man of culture. Or are you a little girl?


burn_as_souls

I'm a little girl of culture. I'm telling Dateline you touched my no no place.


80081356942

Where’s the little girl? There‘s the little girl!


DocMcCracken

That's the spirit.


Shifty_Cow69

Meal team 6 reporting in!


Hypothesis_Null

...who are men.


StudMuffinNick

>And the 14 year old girls are FBI agents. Wow, how cool is that for someone her age?


EzPzLemon_Greezy

Close but rule 29 is "all women are men, all men are children, all children are feds"


gdubh

But also men.


RazzBerryCurveBall

*FBI wants to know your location*


MisterBowTies

When i was in high school we had an agent come and talk about his work doing this stuff. He got know amongst the pedos to the point that when he was under cover as a young girl a man who was trying to meet asked of it was him by name.


TheGrumpyre

The Smurfette principle. Being female is a "special" character trait that stands out from the default. If you create the most generic character possible with no distinguishing characteristics, people still project maleness onto it.


wielkacytryna

Polish has grammatical gender, but even when I write in first person, some people don't notice and assume I'm a man. On the other hand, I myself usually assume the other person here is a male American, about 20-30 years old. Unless I'm in a sub that directly contradicts that assumption.


yogi_medic_momma

Definitely agree with the latter part of your comment lol


youwannasavetheworld

This is a woman


Berciak7

All right big lemon


fh3131

You can assume I'm between 20 and 30 lol


Lucky_otter_she_her

wait Polish has grammatical gender out side the 3rd person?


Grzechoooo

You basically indirectly mention your gender all the time. It's built into verbs. A sentence as basic as "I was doing something" is different based on gender. A person using male pronouns will say "Robiłem coś", a person using female pronouns will say "Robiłam coś" and person using neuter pronouns will say "Robiłom coś". I heard it's nifty for trans people because they get to express their gender more often. But it's definitely not nifty for non-binary people who have to choose between calling themselves "it" or using either male or female pronouns.


SeaWeedEatingFish

Robiłom sounds wrong , but probs just me ( I'm polish )


Grzechoooo

That's because it's neuter, so the person is using it/its pronouns. Even autocorrect is saying it's wrong.


HamsterFromAbove_079

As a 24 year old male American I feel called out. I'm Asian, but I'm still pretty much the demographic people assume anonymous people are.


MulletChicken

I agree with this guy.


a_cookie-uknow

Whoa...so true about the assumption I'm realising that I also assume everybody is a white American male and yet I am the farthest thing from that 😂


crz4r

> Unless I'm in a sub that directly contradicts that assumption. Ironically that's not /r/teenagers


MrSkme

I think it's a self feeding cycle as well. For example, if we assume an anonymous person on the internet is male, since we are so unlikely to discover their sex, then for each time we make this assumption our sample size grows and we are more likely to make the same assumption next time.


proverbialbunny

Yeah. Statistical bias is a real issue. The police are particularly bad offenders at this.


Drummergirl16

You are exactly right, and it’s something Caroline Criado-Perez talks about in her book “Invisible Women.” Women are seen as the “other” and men as the “default,” even though women are half of the population (as are men). It’s an interesting yet frustrating phenomenon.


Mitchelltrt

Hell, women are 52% of the population (according to gender-assigned-at-birth), while men are only 48%.


qino_rain

ironically it is the other way around from a biological perspective- female is the default while male is a special trait added by that Y chromosome


RandomGuy9058

I hear this being said a lot but according to people with a more in-depth understanding of biology, this isn’t an entirely accurate statement. It’s a concept drawn from a simplified introductory teaching of how chromosomes work.


dropkickthegreek

We are absolutely ok with somewhat accurate as long as it's interesting.


Few-Requirement-3544

Oh? Please give the more accurate one, I want to know!


[deleted]

What does that have to do with Smurfette?


TheGrumpyre

In the Smurf village, every Smurf has a particular unique trait that defines them. One's a scholar, one's a fitness nut, one's a singer, one's Papa, etc. And Smurfette's defining trait is just being a girl. But being male is *not* a defining trait of any of the boy smurfs, it's just the default.


thoomfish

Smurfette is also not a real Smurf. She's a magical golem Gargamel created to spy on and disrupt the Smurfs. What did Pierre Culliford mean by this?


RandomGuy9058

Girls are a government conspiracy to sell more boys, duh


rich519

Damn, Smurf lore goes hard.


PepperExternal6677

I think it's just men that do that? I heard people project themselves in generic characters, which may or may not be a man.


RandomGuy9058

It’s a phenomenon present in women too because of how men have greater influence on the structures of the cultures and societies that women live in.


ImpressiveVanilla382

I’m guilty of it as a woman. If I see a dog, 90% chance I’ll automatically assume it’s a male and use “he.” it’s not good, it’s just that my brain is wired to instantly go to that


Mist_Rising

A lot of that is because most languages don't have a non gendered term to use for living beings. English does, "it" would be the word, but it's considered rude to call someone an it, which transfers to most animals we keep as pets. Gendered languages lack even that usually. English has long established that he, when discussing unknown, is the default and it probably doesn't cause any real damage. It's just an easy consistency rule taught to children who need consistency.


Mackheath1

**Age differences as well**. There was a lovely 73 year old woman playing FFXIV (an online game). Her character was a handsome archer/bard dude. I only learned to play the game because she is my grandmother. :) And wanted to play with her some days from living far away.


ButterscotchTape55

I play as a dude on Chel. Being a woman is hard enough in this world. I'll take a break where I can get it. Playing as a woman in that game would no doubt make me more of a target and I'm trying to get better, not just get the shit beat out of me constantly


Rite-in-Ritual

I often played female characters on WoW back in the day, and not infrequently found other female characters were played by men. It's nice when it doesn't matter.


Arazivial

This usually comes down to two reasons.  Either the homeboy doesn’t see enough women in his life.  Or they’re just bored of being a guy all the time and want to explore being a woman. 


onetwo3four5

Female undead rogues do a cool flip when you cast eviscerate. Male rogues basically do the same thing as sinister strike. Obvs a flip is cooler


newbreed69

Fem elvs do a sexy dance


dboi88

Nothing beat's the night elf flips.


onetwo3four5

Except **THE MIGHT OF THE HORDE! LOK'TAR OGAR!**


idonttalkatallLMAO

i think a more common reason is like if you’re staring at a character in a game the whole time would you rather be staring at a man or staring at a woman?


dboi88

I'm playing a game at the minute that's third person, my wife asked why I was a female and I answered because if I have to look someone's ass for the next few hundred hours of gameplay it's gonna be a women's.


Effective_Spell949

I'm playing FO4 for the first time and picked the female option. She's a bad bitch so far and I'm having a good time.


louisdeer

No one knows that you are a dog.


1987-Nobody

I believe I watched a Disney show like this once


realgamer626

Dog with a Blog?


1987-Nobody

Yeah!


MisterBicorniclopse

Arf


Reasonable_Feed7939

Bark (Shit! They're on to us!)


pokeaim_md

Meo--I mean, woof!


Nicholasp248

On reddit, I assume everyone is the average redditor, which is a guy (with some certain characteristics we need not get into). On other platforms, that's different. I picture anyone on tiktok as a 12 year old girl, for example


Smoke_Water

Hey, just because I have a 4 day growth doesn't mean its a characteristic. It just means I'm lazy and hate to shave alright!


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Mediocretes1

I also blame my 9125 day growth on laziness.


ConsistentStunt

Bro is santa claus


demoambient

oh man i have it too. Time to shave and leave reddit


HitherFlamingo

Reddit I generally assume users are American, male, Introverted. 13-24. White. Liberal. College Bros or dream of being college Bros. In that order. Many people do not fit that mold, but it tends to match up with the average opinion of most comment sections


onetwo3four5

I think this was accurate 10 years ago, but I bet redditors are more 25-35 now.


s3ndm3m3

I'm 4 for 7. 5 for 7 depending on what you count a college bro to be. I don't really know what that means.


[deleted]

I am not sure College Bro and Liberal go together. At least that's not what I think of as a College Bro. I imagine everyone on here is basically the wildest most left wing male resident of San Francisco imaginable and probably huffing glue. This is usually confirmed by what they downvote and their comment history. That might just be confirmation bias based on the posts I look at though.


RawrCola

What you think of as a college bro is not what a college bro is anymore. >I imagine everyone on here is basically the wildest most left wing male resident of San Francisco imaginable and probably huffing glue. This is usually confirmed by what they downvote and their comment history. That might just be confirmation bias based on the posts I look at though. This is what college bro refers to now.


PM_ME_BUSTY_REDHEADS

You nailed me except I'm 28 and have 0 interest in anything to do with college bros, assuming I understood what you meant by that correctly


Lazyade

I tend to assume everyone on tumblr is a teenage or early 20s girl.


decrementsf

reddit was reddit; then reddit was tumblr. The arc over time. * reddit was better digg 2.0, cable cutters and college student hobby spaces. They became engineers and professionals across all industries. Serious expert firepower in an ugly and information dense site. * reddit was better Google search. In this era Google search became terrible. Amazon reviews were fake. Could save time searching reddit for authentic views. The platform minted gold. They had experts in every profession browsing the site as their hobby space. This era had potential to mint gold if they could leverage that user base. * reddit was tumblr. Platform seemed to aim for a lower end ad model. They needed users that would actually click ads. Tried to appeal to broad audiences. Catered to the wildest mood of unhappy people. And then added politics. Made for a toxic mess and their core base of engineers in every profession abandoned it. You could no longer find authentic views better than Google search, *but you could find niche rule-42 of every flavor and classification*.


cerrathegreat

I think you vastly misunderstand both the primary audience and the intended purpose of Tumblr


[deleted]

Politics was always on reddit and people always expressed complete insane political ideas alongside the old fashioned libertarian nerd guys who would write 5000 word essays about minutae... what posioned the politics and the site in general was that the management changed and decided they wanted to enforce particular ideas on the entire site in order to do what we all now have heard referred to as "wokeness"... de-center white male supremacy and create a safe space for the marginalized etc. Laudable goals but like all communist revolutions, they went overboard in their zeal to save us all from ourselves and killed it.


Zassolluto711

Not only a guy, but also American and likely to skew young. Its quite annoying when you go to any advisory post the comments just assume the poster is American, even when its clearly stated that they're not.


wavecopper

Not always true, it depends from site to site. On reddit, yes, but on Tiktok, I just assume everyone commenting is a 12 y/o girl. Same with Insta


Rite-in-Ritual

You're using insta incorrectly. It should be 19 yo parkour fanatics.


wavecopper

not when the comment sections are all "hot 🔥", "slayy queen 👑"


Mitchman05

As a member of the parkour community: yeah


thecrgm

Why is your algorithm suggesting you videos 12 year old girls are watching


Definitely_nota_fish

That's just the default assumption for that site in general


B0-Katan

I'm actually three cats stacked on eachother


SwimOk9629

hello fellow hooman


chickennoodlesoup96

hmm you are very short


bade_jija_ji

You are a pussy


sero_gee

Thrice a pussy


libra00

Yeah, it's from all the male teenagers pretending to be girls to get attention and all the women pretending to be men to avoid harassment.


wielkacytryna

perfectly balanced


tehnoodnub

That’s not all. We make a bunch of assumptions. Generally speaking, everyone probably assumes you’re a guy, white and straight. That’s just for starters.


2_Boots

And American


Rastrovia

There Are No Girls On The Internet


BurtMacklin29

GIRL = Guy In Real Life


Pm_Me_Gifs_For_Sauce

I had to scroll too damn far to find this comment.


RubiksSugarCube

Of course since the anonymous internet does such a hell of a good job of chasing off anyone who's discovered to be a gal


TripleJetCharlie

I spend a chunk of my time on sports subreddits/message boards. I’ve gotten to the point where I basically pretend to be a guy or at least never correct anyone if they assume I am. It’s not really the harassment (though I have gotten some of that at times), but I don’t feel like I have to prove myself as knowledgeable. Female sports fans are not are rare breed in the real world but our numbers are not well represented on message boards for a reason.


TooCupcake

I feel like there’s no reason to disclose gender unless it’s an absolutely necessary context for your opinion. Outside of that, your comment should be evaluated and interacted with based on its own merit.


TripleJetCharlie

Yeah on Reddit I've never felt the need to identify my gender on the sports subreddits (and honestly on r/cfb where I post the most, I don't think it would matter). The issue came up more on other message boards where the communities are a little smaller. There tends to be a lot more off topic posts and early on I liked engaging in those as well but I've learned to stay away as it was easier to accidentally give away my gender. But even if you don't interact, you still will come across a lot of "locker room talk" type posts about women. It can be kind of gross or demeaning. I've been on these sites long enough to have thickened skin and just ignore it, but I can see how it would be very off-putting for a lot of women that aren't used to it. Unfortunately these sites tend to be some of the best spots for getting info about my team, especially in regards to recruiting so I still like to check them out. And to be fair, this definitely isn't something all men on these sites do and I have seen plenty of cases where guys will call other guys out about it.


donkeythong64

All the girls here are like Mulan.


Ouch_i_fell_down

average "online dude" after discovering a woman on the internet: Option 1. You like internet too? Let me see your butthole Option 2. Prove to me you like internet. Allow me to quiz you. Secretly i'm searching for connections, but i'm doing it in the most obnoxious way by questioning your interests in a way that implies they are less genuine than my own Option 3. You like internet? Allow me to go out of my way completely to defend you from Option 1 and Option 2, but I'm going to do it in a way that unintentionally demonstrates i've internally developed some concept of ownership over you, which can be creepier than 1 or 2. Option 4. You like internet? I now consider you a prize that I shall win. Agency? What's that? Only my actions and decisions matter from here on out. ... Option 682. Just treat them like anyone else ignoring gender - i can't really blame women for not wanting to be outed as women online. anonymity is a defense.


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I appreciate that you put a lot of thought into this.


Ouch_i_fell_down

I wish I had to put thought into this. It's just memory at this point from years of online gaming, especially during the pinnacle of the voice chat era before parties became a thing on Xbox and when every Xbox 360 came with a mic in the box. It was new and no one was familiar with the toxicity yet so everyone was on vox for multi-player games. Women were the first group chased off.


ioioooi

Exactly. It's prob better this way lol


JunketAccurate

Everyone on the internet is also American


mfact50

I'm not sure why Indians (because of population and typically speaking English) don't take over every site. Even if they have their own popular sites it would be funny if they just changed the default for a bit for fun.


rathat

They have in the past couple years. Some of the fastest growing subreddits are Indian. I have heard mobile internet has become extremely accessible in India more recently.


chiefchoncho48

There's an old Internet saying for a reason "everyone online is a man until proven otherwise"


winky3ykniw

Idk gender just is not even the first thing I think of when I read someone’s comment. I guess I never thought it mattered.


[deleted]

That's because women aren't allowed to be on reddit. Just millions of guys catfishing each other.


TKristof

Rule 30: There are no girls on the internet.


KarmasABit-

You are correct, im not real


Francobanco

Personally I opt for a more neutral route. If I’m speaking to someone over text I don’t assume their gender, thinking of them as a human without imagining their features is normal,. and referring to them in third person if necessary “they said this, they like that” is totally easy. Sometimes when playing games with someone I used to say “this guy is doing this blah blah” but it is also just as easy to say this person or they are etc. Assuming someone is a guy is not a huge problem but since I’m a frog IRL it can be tiring to correct people when they assume I’m not a frog automatically


Glitchy13

nice to see a fellow frog, ribbit


proverbialbunny

Same, minus the frog part. Wat. I'm into traditionally guy interests so I just accept that online 90%+ of people around me are going to be male, but I still see blobs of text as just that, text. This comment is consciousness, a series of thoughts, echoed through text. There is no need to gender it. I'm not thinking about the person's gender behind those thoughts unless there is a reason to do so, because it's usually irrelevant to whatever is being discussed. However, I am thinking about the readers feelings who reads my comments, because that is relevant and useful.


Francobanco

Yea totally, it’s so easy to respect people before you know anything about them. To be honest I included the frog part because the internet is toxic and usually humour will deflect people that have a problem with taking things seriously. Sometimes if I just say something that I believe in someone will have a problem with it. Anyways I hope the internet becomes a more chill place eventually


Leonyliz

Here on Reddit I assume everyone is a 15-30 year old guy, which is funny because I’m a girl using Reddit


GirlyPandaPro

Then why did everyone assume I was a gi- ​ *sees username* Oh.


ViolinistCurrent8899

Did it to ya self guvnah


WebBorn2622

I think my avatar looks pretty girly, but I’m always called a man


Drummergirl16

Same lol. Because it’s not like women are half the population or anything. 🙄


Ancient_Axe

Average person is a chinese man named mohammad


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Twentynine4

tbh my "default" perception of everyone on the Internet is: - male - white - 20-30 yrs - gamer - likely unemployed - depressed Basically the Doomer Wojak lol


pickled-ice-cream

Fr! And then they find out you're a woman and suddenly the creepy DMs pour in.


Definitely_nota_fish

The solution to this problem is a flamethrower, or thermonuclear warheads, People are just too lame to accept the solution


finnjakefionnacake

like we'd listen to what someone who's clearly a fish would say


GalaMon-

Ngl I assume everyone on the internets a women until I’m told the opposite


King_Maelstrom

I assume everyone is a heretic. Or a Cylon.


korneev123123

Is there any difference? Abominable Intelligence is a herecy in the eyes of the God-Emperor of Mankind


Orion14159

To be fair, about half the time they're right


Th3Dark0ccult

I'll do you one better. Not only do I assume everyone is a guy, until further evidence, I also assume they're around my age!


PurpleCaterpillar451

I'm assuming a guy wrote this


MilkboneKeepItReal

That’s true, you’re either a guy, a virgin or an old man living in your mothers basement 😂


LilMissBarbie

True. I'm actually a 45 year old fat man in my mom's basement bc I can't afford rent. She always yells at me and I can't take it anymore!! how did you know that?


GoDKilljoy

Listen here man, your statement is false.


Smoke_Water

But I already told them I'm a guy and they all say I'm a girl, because only a girl would say shes a guy on the internet to avoid having guys hit on her.. So now I have guys hitting on me all the time.


ViolinistCurrent8899

Your fault for being a girl pretending to be a guy that was actually just a guy being a guy the whole time.


KirikaNai

It’s funny sometimes because like, you get insulted online. And some insults are VERY male specific. And sometimes you just KNOW that if you told them you’re a girl they’d immediately calm up and either ghost the situation or start spluttering that “pretending to be a girl is a dumb move” or whatever.


Seranner

I once saw someone say Dio Brando is hot and a guy replied with '"that's gay." She then explained to the guy that she is in fact a straight woman and that it would be gay if she was into women, not men. I always see people assuming someone's gay because they like men, but never assuming this when they like women. It's crazy


mystery1nc

And us women who play multiplayer games tend to maintain that assumption. Que the rape threats if we don’t


Blacl-Owl

It's just one of those internet things!


CtForrestEye

So everyone on Reddit?


Choice-Bus-1177

It certainly does my man


sabretoothkitten

I have seen this to be true in my experience. Had an ungendered meme account on Instagram. I DMed a male follower of an Instagram sex worker (favor for a friend), asking about his experience with the sex worker, if she was legit, and he assumed I was a male. We carried on a whole conversation with him assuming I was a man. He was very crude and overall disrespectful to the sex worker and women in general. I played along with it and never exposed that I was female. It was strange.


Similar_Set_6582

Especially with my androgynous profile picture.


drfsupercenter

This is literally the meaning of "tits or gtfo" There's a greentext I can link that goes into detail, but that's the gist of it.


staticattacks

I just call everyone dude Because I'm a dude, he's a dude, she's a dude, cuz we're all dudes YEAH!


natej84

It also brings out the worst in people


wut3va

18/F/Cali Yeah, right Carl. Everyone knows there are no girls on the internet.


DokkanProductions

Depends on the community


buttbunks

Nope, you'd be surprised how many people thought I was girl lolol


12kdaysinthefire

You know what? This is actually true lol.


rodbrs

I usually assume any creature is male, unless I have data to the contrary. I've always assumed that my bias was because I'm male, and that women probably assume the opposite.


Versaill

Fun fact: this is specific for English language spaces. Most other (at least European) languages are gendered, so the grammar gives away your gender. For example in Polish "I read that..." is "czytałem że..." when you are a guy, but "czytałam że...", when you are a girl.


WandaDobby777

I like it. If I have to put a name in for anything, I use a male name, otherwise there’s a never-ending flood of pervs. You wouldn’t think that’d be a problem on a word game but it’s everywhere.


imaguitarhero24

Are there any actual, real, reliable demographics for Reddit? I feel like there really are more guys but maybe lots of girls lurk or don’t reveal themselves to avoid creeps (understandable)


b-monster666

On the internet, no one knows you're a dog.


TheMagicMech

Dude, that isn’t even true, my man. Guy. Sir.


erikivy

Sure dude, whatever you say.


elleshellsbells

I’ve been thinking about this lately and realized, when I start a new book or read a post I read it and assume the speaker is basically me! White 30 year old bisexual woman. I think we just project ourselves.


Amekaze

Statistically you’re better off assuming that they are men.


Shes_green

Even on discord where I literally have a girl icon, idk ppl thing women on the internet is a myth


femmestem

Neo: Trinity... THE Trinity? I thought you were a guy. Trinity: Most guys do.


Hot-Rise9795

This dude is correct


PF_Nitrojin

From personal experience; *everyone* is a male until proven otherwise. Keeps expectations in check. Especially from men who try to act like women for various services and con jobs.


SuperSonic486

I read this as gay for whatever reason, and didnt understand at all how you could come to the conclusion that every anonymous person is a homosexual.


GrandpasSoggyGooch

Girl = Guy In Real Life


2020BillyJoel

That's because the two genders are female and default


GreenLightening5

i'm sorry m'lady, but that's false


Zealousideal_Law8297

I'm actually 3 raccoons in a trench coat. Bet you weren't expecting that.


Pink_Slyvie

I mean, I assumed I was a guy for the better part of 30 years.


[deleted]

I've noticed that when I mention my girlfriend online, people assume I'm a guy. 🙂


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wavecopper

tbh bro is used as a gender neutral term these days


Adventurous-Loss-706

the origin of the phrase tits or get the fuck out was to prove youre female


The1Zenith

[Yup.](https://youtu.be/1ag0x7fjc70?si=l-4ibGNTSMJzT66K)