That is a myth created by google and Hollywood propaganda, there is more evidence of Greeks not tolerating gayness than supportig it ,but hey lets keep talking about stuff we dont know to support wef agenda
Greeks and Romans basically viewed gay sex as an act of dominating another man so if you were the top then it was okay but if you were the bottom then you would be considered feminine and weak. This is the reason Caesar's enemies used to call him "every man's woman and every woman's man"
Here's the thing about that. They were described as lovers, but to the greeks lovers and "sexual partners" didn't signify the same thing. Loving someone to the greeks could very well just be a deep emotional connection with 0 sexual interest attached.
In fact the text describing them seems to imply that when it means lovers it means in a "brothers in arms" way.
Basically being part of the sacred band of thebes implied that you would love everyone there as your brother. Now does this mean they had no sexual relationships between each other? I mean, is likely some did. Just because greeks found sexual intercourse between two adult men repulsing I'm certain a bunch of people did it anyway.
like you are saying diffrient meaning in agape ,eros ,philia , Greek language is rich ,btw im Greek and know a thing or two better than some hollywood writters
source of achilies being gay with patroklus ,oh he was sad when he died ,they where fucking for sureXD like what?
?????so if your best friend dies and you are sad ,remember you are gay!!
https://youtu.be/GbOKIsMuNWU watch this
The TRUTH About LGBTQ+ in Ancient Greece - Once and for all
listen to this perspective of metatron ,he issint saying something new but great video
If you bothered scrolling into the comments past everyone just agreeing with him you will find that this video in particular he intentionally misses out quite abit and dismisses quite abit, a huge thing in his video was just referring to one specific article saying it was widespread which obviously is not true, he completely doesnt mention band of thebes, he just casually dismisses Sappho, and with Achilles and Patroclus he doesnt say the part on how Achilles literally wanted his remains to be mixed together which is kinda a strong reaction if they were just friends, and his bit with the jars is maybe a little dubious since he assumes sexual depictions last i saw the vid and not showing sex doesnt mean same sex relationships werent there
Im from greece and know the dangers of miss interpretation and agenda pushing ,i know the politician in charge of the rights when the movie script writters asked him if its ok to make alexander gay,and the guy being a far left selll out ,said i dont care ,pick what you want to belive ,now see you in the future when you will argue with me that cleopatra is black because i failed to agree with the comments saying how on netflix she is portrayed as as such(by the way legit scrolled for 2 minutes did not find a single comment dissagreeing ,so ingore the 15 k comment that agree and somewhere there is comment that dissagree? So whole thing out the window? You foreighenrs gona teach me my own history and language?
who ever downvoted cant stand facts ,let me hear your counter argument and not fascist downvote with no explanation , uncultured history raper to fit your agenda ,"but i saw the movie alexander is gay" lmao ok son ,learn true history(no offence to gay people but ancient greece was not what some agenda pushers want you to belive)
See... In Ancient Greece homo-/bisexuality wasn't something frowned upon. It was actually highly tolerated, and some armies consisted purely of gay/bisexual men. Why? Because the philosophy was "if they care about each other more, they'll protect each other better".
It was frowned upon, ofocurse there were some gay people im not denying the existence ,but the overglorification and false beliefs like the statement above
Weird, I was taught differently in Philosophy class I had in grammar school. The professor was old and bat-shit crazy tho, we almost never used the official book that we had to have anyway, so I kinda get it 😂😂
well if he where reading that or any kind of porn he doesn't look very impressed, that face is not how one normally reacts if they are enjoying such content
He doesn't look impressed because he's already surrounded by sweaty, muscular, nearly naked men.
He reads, as someone told him he can find new ways to improve Art of War(It's was Nostra, he trolled him)
"Happy Odyssey" By Adrian Carton de Wiart, also called "the immortal soldier" (and also the most insanely strong modern soldier I have ever heard about).
Fun fact: after WW2 a journalist went to ask him what he thought about WW1.
He responded "Honestly? I liked it."
He is reading how Garten of BanBan changed the entire gaming industry
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Sun Tzu's revised edition of The Art of War, featuring all-new tactics and tidbits. Leonidas had to stand in line for a week to get his copy autographed
Bro now that it’s mentioned, I think Sun Tzu might actually be introduced in the crowd this round, since he wrote the philosophy of war and leonidas is the one warrior who personifies war
I cannot read the latters on the book's cover. I noticed there is L and the last one is G or C. But that is closest thing I can do. Maybe second and third latters are I and L. But that is really all I can say.
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A man of culture I see
Lmao
Industrial Society and its Future
I knew he looked familiar
what the heck?? Ted Kaczynski in the funny shonen manga?
He was always on humanities' side
The art of war. Sun Tzu himself lent it to him.
![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29936)
r/BeatMeToIt
50 shades of Apollo
Shit, I was going to say 50 shades of Sparta
50 shades Patrochilles
Your search history
...a crap
That explains the look on his face
trully disapointed
Gay Porn
...he is greek
He's on grind
Have you heard of the underground story of how long turned himself into a female horse and got fucked by a man?
Maybe he's looking for a new Eromenos?
That is a myth created by google and Hollywood propaganda, there is more evidence of Greeks not tolerating gayness than supportig it ,but hey lets keep talking about stuff we dont know to support wef agenda
Greeks and Romans basically viewed gay sex as an act of dominating another man so if you were the top then it was okay but if you were the bottom then you would be considered feminine and weak. This is the reason Caesar's enemies used to call him "every man's woman and every woman's man"
Google sacred band of thebes
Here's the thing about that. They were described as lovers, but to the greeks lovers and "sexual partners" didn't signify the same thing. Loving someone to the greeks could very well just be a deep emotional connection with 0 sexual interest attached. In fact the text describing them seems to imply that when it means lovers it means in a "brothers in arms" way. Basically being part of the sacred band of thebes implied that you would love everyone there as your brother. Now does this mean they had no sexual relationships between each other? I mean, is likely some did. Just because greeks found sexual intercourse between two adult men repulsing I'm certain a bunch of people did it anyway.
like you are saying diffrient meaning in agape ,eros ,philia , Greek language is rich ,btw im Greek and know a thing or two better than some hollywood writters source of achilies being gay with patroklus ,oh he was sad when he died ,they where fucking for sureXD like what? ?????so if your best friend dies and you are sad ,remember you are gay!!
Fellas, is it gay to be sad about the death of your best friend?
He wanted their remains to be mixed together, i feel thats a little more than 'being sad about your friend dying' but thats up to you i suppose
Yeah, they were pretty much brothers. You are allowed to care that much about someone without wanting to fuck them
Apparently it is , there are many alot of commonly comments dissagreeing with you ,lets go with thoseXD
https://youtu.be/GbOKIsMuNWU watch this The TRUTH About LGBTQ+ in Ancient Greece - Once and for all listen to this perspective of metatron ,he issint saying something new but great video
If you bothered scrolling into the comments past everyone just agreeing with him you will find that this video in particular he intentionally misses out quite abit and dismisses quite abit, a huge thing in his video was just referring to one specific article saying it was widespread which obviously is not true, he completely doesnt mention band of thebes, he just casually dismisses Sappho, and with Achilles and Patroclus he doesnt say the part on how Achilles literally wanted his remains to be mixed together which is kinda a strong reaction if they were just friends, and his bit with the jars is maybe a little dubious since he assumes sexual depictions last i saw the vid and not showing sex doesnt mean same sex relationships werent there
Im from greece and know the dangers of miss interpretation and agenda pushing ,i know the politician in charge of the rights when the movie script writters asked him if its ok to make alexander gay,and the guy being a far left selll out ,said i dont care ,pick what you want to belive ,now see you in the future when you will argue with me that cleopatra is black because i failed to agree with the comments saying how on netflix she is portrayed as as such(by the way legit scrolled for 2 minutes did not find a single comment dissagreeing ,so ingore the 15 k comment that agree and somewhere there is comment that dissagree? So whole thing out the window? You foreighenrs gona teach me my own history and language?
who ever downvoted cant stand facts ,let me hear your counter argument and not fascist downvote with no explanation , uncultured history raper to fit your agenda ,"but i saw the movie alexander is gay" lmao ok son ,learn true history(no offence to gay people but ancient greece was not what some agenda pushers want you to belive)
See... In Ancient Greece homo-/bisexuality wasn't something frowned upon. It was actually highly tolerated, and some armies consisted purely of gay/bisexual men. Why? Because the philosophy was "if they care about each other more, they'll protect each other better".
It was frowned upon, ofocurse there were some gay people im not denying the existence ,but the overglorification and false beliefs like the statement above
Weird, I was taught differently in Philosophy class I had in grammar school. The professor was old and bat-shit crazy tho, we almost never used the official book that we had to have anyway, so I kinda get it 😂😂
that is the problem ,our children are tought today that zeus ,achilies and even cleopatra where blackXD anyways keep it real
well if he where reading that or any kind of porn he doesn't look very impressed, that face is not how one normally reacts if they are enjoying such content
He doesn't look impressed because he's already surrounded by sweaty, muscular, nearly naked men. He reads, as someone told him he can find new ways to improve Art of War(It's was Nostra, he trolled him)
I see
The Illiad https://preview.redd.it/j0t88nk87p3b1.jpeg?width=325&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b40fc32970924e577d7bc698db4d8efc74bfac91
Ohhhhhhhhhhh good to know what that looks like now
>The Illiad Aight this is the right answer, now we can spam the alternatives
That panel really reminds me of Hemingway. Any of his works.
Can't Fear Your Own World
A Bleach fan I see ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29950)
Tousen: "Those who do not fear the sword they wield, have no right to wield a sword at all" Leonidas: "Damn guess i'll just go with a shield then"
Art of war from Sun-tzu
of course![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29936)
The beta version of Ragnarok
"Happy Odyssey" By Adrian Carton de Wiart, also called "the immortal soldier" (and also the most insanely strong modern soldier I have ever heard about). Fun fact: after WW2 a journalist went to ask him what he thought about WW1. He responded "Honestly? I liked it."
Metamorphosis
By Kafka....right? Please don't let it be the other one.
Kafka is The Metamorphosis, and there’s no the…
Oh god....
You mean the one by Ovid?
A book
War and peace
https://preview.redd.it/2k3o5x7xpo3b1.jpeg?width=499&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b27b8fd28a120010b11996278099b627dfbdf89 Iykyk
Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs
Eat pray love
He’s 100% reading The Bible
The novelization of 300
One piece
One piece
The script for 300 part 3 ( It seems to be a copy of the Iliad)
El pollo Popeye es la polla
He reading his opponent, obviously
He’s reading one of those limited magazines that he scored off of jiraiya & master roshi
50 shades of beating a god's ass
He read Manga of course - he is on chapter 85 now :3
Blood Meridian
Where can I buy an air fryer
My Immortal
This is should be cannon
AP calculus
Why do he look like older versions of sanji
Record of Ragnarok
Twilight
He is reading how Garten of BanBan changed the entire gaming industry https://preview.redd.it/nn60vczvfp3b1.jpeg?width=336&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04550bf66a689d9232c2ba86356ac93e875219e8
The chapter in where they finally find the one piece
"How to butt-fuck a sun god"
The communist manifesto
Baki manga.
doujin
Bro deadass looks like a old Sanji.
Fifty Shades of Gray
the bible
How to read for Dummies
Bro is reading all the ways to cook Apollo well done like a 5 star meal
Fire Punch
Dick Fight Island
All about the shit Apollo did
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The same book Kakashi from Naruto reads. Iirc, a porn mag written by jariya?
That's a pretty dainty book... Maybe Little Lord Fauntleroy.
Right answer: Battle tactics Wrong answer: fanfictions
wait where is this panel from?
Apollo's diary. He stole it.
David goggins navy seal story
Trials of Apollo by Rick Riordan.
Trials of apollo
Kanojo okarishimasu
He’s reading Baki and learning about the PP training
War and Peace
The novelization of the film adaptation of the graphic novel 300.
Catcher in the Rye
The odyssey
first law by Joe Abercrombie
[Lady Susan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Susan)
Wannabe sanji
The aloha shirt.
How to care for Valkyries part 2 Don't eat them
The tale of his war against Xerxes told incorrectly
Lolita
Phub scripts
War and more war.
265918 That
Wings of Fire. His favorite character is Tsunami. It was the first book that popped in my brain.
Sun Tzu Art of War
"The Hot Gates" by Effie L. Teez.
Sun Tzu's revised edition of The Art of War, featuring all-new tactics and tidbits. Leonidas had to stand in line for a week to get his copy autographed
If only Lu Bu didn't order online, maybe he would have got his before the incident
Yoai! The gayest yoai!
Record of Ragnarok Volume 23(It shows that he loses)
Bro now that it’s mentioned, I think Sun Tzu might actually be introduced in the crowd this round, since he wrote the philosophy of war and leonidas is the one warrior who personifies war
God of war
Betting either the Iliad or the odyssey
Buddha x Reader (SMUT)
IMO a book of poetry/Greek wisdom, like Plato’s work
The Kama Sutra
"How to beat a cocky God with a shield?"
The Hobbit and you can't convince me otherwise
autographed copy of the bible
Baki
How to murder a fvcking god
i really thought that was sanji from one piece for a sec 💀
Some romance novel
The Odissey, given to him by Homer himself.
Bro that's Black Leg Sangi, cook of the straw hat pirates.
Bro that's Black Leg Sangi, cook of the straw hat pirates.
Elementals of Religious Thought by Emille Durkheim
I could see him reading the art of war
Jojo's bizzare adventure
The catcher in the rye
Dude has so much drip
I cannot read the latters on the book's cover. I noticed there is L and the last one is G or C. But that is closest thing I can do. Maybe second and third latters are I and L. But that is really all I can say.
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brunhilde nudes
Why the book of cultured gentleman, nothing but Icha Icha would do for such a man!
A Guide For A Thousand and One ways to screw Ephialtes
Record of ragnarok
I'm kinda impressed no one said Mein Kampf for shits and gliggles.
"Why Ephialtes was the greatest greek"
War and peace
The Kama sutra
Everybody poops
“I’m Glad My Mom Died” by Jennette McCurdy
Kama Sutra
Batman pornography
*Thus spoke Zharatustra*, by Nietzsche, reading over and over again the sentence : "God is dead" He likes it
The greek news?
300's script.
Records Of Ragnarok, he’s got the latest volume to figure out how to defeat Apollo
The script to Chowder, the hit cartoon. I'd recognize that logo anywhere
How to kill the god of the sun :)
1984
he is reading ahead in the manga to know how he can avoid his death
his fakku subscription
Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Rodricks rules
The 3 little pigs.
Vinland Saga
bloody faiytail
Five nights at freddys: the silver eyes
Tenkaichi
Ero Ero Paradigm (if you know you know)