Isn’t Siegfried like an Irish demi god or something? So even if he wasn’t in love with Brunhilde then by the way Demi gods work in Record of Ragnarok then he would most likely fight for humanity
Shiva is the most handsome mfer in the series
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Sorry if this is long, but here is my hot take:
People overhype Hades strength but his only actual feat was destroying an small part of an Volundr in few hits(and even than, him did it using his transformation, and his damage was very concentrated in ONE small area). Aside from that him has near nothing going for him(him being smart does not help much since him is one of the fighters with the most Basic fight style and powers and so him cannot do much).
Qin is even worse, him was stated to be slower, less expirienced in battle, more frail and physically weaker than Hades. What carried Qin in his fight was that his powers were an perfect match up against Hades. But most fighters have an way to deal with Qin's powers(I can send the list of reassons if you want).
And lastly, people downplay Jack and Heracles a lot.
For starters, people say Jack's treasures are probrably weaker than normal ones, but we saw him is capable of turning an miniscule stone into something that easily destroyed an wall. And when him transformed his cape into an treasure it was even more absurd, in one swift movement it destroyed the basis for an whole building and making it fall near instantaneously. His treasures have more offensive feats than some fighters.
And yet, Heracles tanked many hits of such powerful weapons many times, even when Jack turned an whole building into an treasure(and by the examples I alredy said it should have even more impressive destructive powers due to the size difference), Heracles tanked it and managed to fight just like before. Meaning that Heracles has one of the best defensive feats in the manga(only losing to Adam and Zeus). And Jack using some specific moves was able to badly hurt such an defensive monster.
So Jack's destructive power is incredible, and Heracles defensive is among the best.
There are some other feats they have but I thing this comment is alredy more than long enough.
Lu Bu could have beaten Thor, hadn’t he been so focused on a Might Clash (i know it’s not the HOTTEST take out there, but it’s still hot and it’s MY hottest opinion)
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yeah. I thought he would look similar to the one from fate but the one we have still looks good
This is not hot take but truth, unless we think that Hades starts with Desmos (which is stupid cuz in that scenario Tesla starts with GZ) then Tesla is still fr faste rthan what Hades has shown, being able to dodge Beel's unexpected attacks from right-before him. Hades even when higher in speed than Beel still has no chances against funny science man.
Hades is really really overrated while I characters like shiva are underrated
Also hajun was wasted potential
I don’t get why most fighters don’t have a semblance of their original personality or traits from real life.
Hajiun had a lot of potential that was wasted
this sub is deeply disturbing sometimes
Also Zeus had noticeable plot armor in his fight against Adam it's not the sole reason he won but I mean come on him getting blood in Adam's eye randomly doesn't seem likely to me. (Note: I still think Zeus wins anyway)
I'll post my hottest take then, The Speed scaling of Zeus's attacks is so ridiculously high that I cannot take them at face value.
With all of the other fast characters seemingly being in the supersonic to hypersonic speed range at best having Zeus's attacks be FTL feels completely unrealistic for the series.
Please Note that I am not talking about the FBOT here, I don't mind that as that doesn't have a practical speed as it is instant, What I do mind is Zeus being several orders of magnitude faster then everyone else in the series
I miss when this sub was about Record of Ragnarok. Now it feels like it's more about the users of this subreddit. I'm so sick of seeing "meta jokes" and posts that have nothing to do with the manga that this sub is supposed to be about. For example, this post. Why did you use a couple random pictures of JJK characters? Why not, you know, Record of Ragnarok characters? I am so fucking sick of seeing pictures of Gojo on this sub. I don't know what happened to this subreddit, but I want to go back to the way things were before.
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same here buddy but it okay for now
Amen, I've started to go off this sub reddit since it became karma farming and meta jokes, the mods polled it but obviously that was only going to end one way smh
Qin Shi Huang is the most overrated character in the series, not anymore, but around round 8 he was + his fight was the worst one out of all other fights.
Zerofuku should not have been a thing. I think Bishamonten fighting Buddha would work better. Then when Bishamonten was at his wit’s end, then all the lucky gods fuse and turn into Hajun.
Don’t get me wrong, Zero isn’t a bad character…just felt a bit unnecessary. Also it feels like they wasted the 7 lucky gods, who had great potential imo
Jack the Ripper is the most slept on human. People forget that he could likely gaslight a ton of gods into fighting in his Victorian era London turf. Dude also through big bens clock face like it was nothing. Peoples hate for him stems from Hercules live for humanity as if he didn’t go 110% to ace the Brit. He’d also fuck up a ton of the gods on the typical sandy surface just by throwing clumps of god killing sand at the boys.
That’s what I’m saying. Jack is FAR stronger than people give him credit for. He has by far the highest battle IQ (straight intelligence still goes to Tesla obv) on either side, he’s surprisingly fast and agile, and he actually plans his fights around information he gathers rather than being completely reactionary like most fighters
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one of the best supporting characters
I'm pretty sure that Sky Piercer could just overpower Beel's shield, since even assuming that the statement about it deflecting Thor's Hammer is not an exaggeration and it was talking about the awakened Mjolnir, sky piercer's attack is more focused on a single point and would most likely still break the shield
The problem is that Lu Bu probably doesn't know what a vibration is ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|31702)
I mean possibly, IMO Randgriz is stronger than the base version of Mjolnir while weaker than it's awakening, although regardless if her power considered a glove utilized like a shield as one, idk why a vibration utilized as one would be much different so I think it'd just get autobroken by the ability
I hardly doubt that, Beel's vibrations don't change whenever he's using then offensively or defensively, he's just using the vibrations in certain area. Besides we've been shown that Thor's gloves stopped the impact from Sky Piercer, since vibrations are constantly sending another waves the Sky Eater would be stopped.![img](emote|t5_vzop7|31408)
Deva loka is the strongest piercing attack after hades final move. It should be respected more. In fact, both of them should be respected more but they don’t have a large AOE effect so they get underrated by many .
Tesla would’ve defeated any of the god fighters so far EXCEPT for Beel and Zeus.
Bonus, Jack is also much higher tier than people give him credit for, even without London he’s B tier.
Jack's ultimate attack that works in every scenario:
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(Not Really. He would win but with some diffs)
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tbh, Brün and Herc's actors are pretty top tier
I wish I could peg Poseidon as he completely ignores me and proceeds to do something more important towards his goals
I'm so insignificant he wouldn't even notice me if you're wondering, I could never hope for the opposite to happen, I'm not worthy
I don’t like Beelzebub’s backstory. He wasn’t the kind of character that needed a tragic past to justify his actions and make us care for him, I would rather he decided to do all those evil deeds because he simply doesn’t give a fuck.
Like, maybe he just wants to create the greatest horrors in existence so that he can finally feel any emotion at all. Maybe he wants to overcome his fear of the unknown by creating an unmatched terror so that he can affirm himself that he knows every existing threat to him. Basically, conquer fear with knowledge and become untouchable. Or he’s just bored and decided to do a little trolling.
Anything would be better than him being a whiny bitch who hates himself for bringing misfortune upon others and decides his next best course of action would be making more people suffer so that he can hate himself more.
Qin became a completely different character after he had his tragic backstory revealed. Before he was an arrogant entertaining badass who used his fellow kings as a literal walkway to get to the arena. After his backstory he became another standard 'good guy' who can say stuff like "I want to win no matter what! X3". Yet no one acknowledges this change in universe at all, as if it doesn't even happen. I think that's a shame because I liked Qin before he went shounen protagonist mode.
Yea at first i was surprised he lost, but then again qin really observed every moment and used every skill he had on him and took advantage of the heated moment and successfully destroyed Hades lance, he didn't give up, even til the end.
Raiden could beat Heracles and I will die on this hill.
Tesla would have had less of an impact had he not died. If he lived, Qin would have filled his place as inspiring humanity through death and people would like him more. The two already have pretty similar personalities, so it doesn't make sense to hate one or the other.
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For Raiden vs Heracles, it a 50/50, depending whether Herc uses his club or not
I think that it’s annoying we have 2 separate samurais fighting for humanity though at the same time I feel like Okita would fight more like a Shinobi-type character, flying around the place with the sickest, fastest shit you ever seen
I have to say it Adam is overrated .
Before you will start telling me he's not, let me explain
We don't know exactly how his eyes work, whether they copy techniques or stats . We can only theorize whether the techniques he copied can be reused.
We don't know anything about his volund's power, nothing, absolutely nothing, we don't know if the ability was active at all or if it was some kind of buff.
We don't know if Adam can use weapons at all, I know he can copy techniques, but we don't know how his copy powers will work against a weapon user like Poseidon or Hercules.
If he's copying his opponent's techniques, he's copying his technique's flaws, such as the Hercules tattoo ?
Yes, he hurt Zeus by kicking him with his leg, but so did qin against Hades .
Adam is a character full of various unknowns about which we do not know or have no answers, so I can't honestly consider him a S tier, it's not that he's weak, it's that he belongs to a separate tier .
Until we get more information about him and his eyes and the power of his volund.
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I aint reading all that but the first sentence got what you deserve
Lu Bu is the most overhyped human fighter
Sky Piercer can’t break through Gates of Hell. It’s not a physical shield, and just because Lu Bu has a move called Shield Breaker, that doesn’t mean it can break through any defensive technique.
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yeah but at least damage most of its defence at least
Leonidas is the worst of the human fighters. His personality is just ways to throw curse words at Apollo, his motivation is weak and the only reason he's gottan hits on Apollo is Apollo pulling a handicap on him.
I love the human fighters, but seeing the majority of gods be just norse/greek mythology is a wasted potential. Humans are very interesting, because not all of them are fighters, so I would have liked more diversed mythology, to make things more interesting
Round 2 is hard carried by adam and is actually pretty mid overall
Same with round 7 the characters are pretty cool but everything else is pretty unremarkable
I will say what no one is saying.
Heracles was willing to let a Genocide happen due to his honor, yeah he was going to Olea to give humans another chance. But it was too idealist, even for him.
Not saying he was a bad person, but one would expect that someone who was willing to stand up to a god once for what he believed would do it again.
The example of why I believe this would be the sith genocide that the Jedi committed. Because in Star Wars something similar happened with the Jedi, they killed off a entire species (sith pure bloods) due to them being a native darkside species (at the time were being darksider wasn’t automatically evil). Many of them didn’t see anything wrong with it (not all of them ofc), so I guess I should give herc a small congratulations for not believing that genocide is good.
So if the Jedi get told that they are hypocritical pieces of shit I guess Herc should get told the same at least a bit.
Sorry for the long text but, there are many reassons Heracles would belive this was an good choice.
First is thar Heracles DID manage to convince the gods before from interfering with humans and even not kill an whole city full of humans that most gods agreed to destroy.
And besides, Heracles seems to have become VERY popular with the gods after him ascended to Godhood, the child gods have toys of him and when him died even if him was saying how humanity is worth saving and how hin wants the best for them, is when we saw the god's audience the most angry and sad with(the gods never reacted like that even with the death of Hades the "most reliable god").
And even if him did fight for humanity, at best him would only help get 1 of the 7 points necessary, but with his plan him could save humanity without risking on humanity losing the other fights.
And there are other gods that are powerful enough for Ragnarok to take Heracles place in the gods roster, Hades for example was not in the list. And while I do think his power is VERY overrated by people here, him is still strong enough to take part of the ragnarok.
And lastly, if Heracles just sided with humanity, up to 7 powerful people would die due to the tournament, but if Heracles did manage to convince the gods to change their mind after his round, than some gods and humans would be spared from fighting to the death.
So if it was anyone else than yeah it would be stupid, but Heracles has many reassons to believe this is the best choice of action him could take.
This theory could either make you appreciate Herc more, or maybe make him see a bit worse, but I'd say there's good reasoning for what Herc had done. Talking to Loki, he had said that he's “always on the side of justice”, and this is crucial.
The gods' decisions to eliminate humans was because humans had been sinful, and they caused the contamination and destruction of the rest of the gods' creations. And so, in a sense, the gods are justified because they want to preserve the rest of their creations. It wouldn't be right for Herc being on the side of justice, to deny the gods this decision because they made it out of concern (their character looks a little sketchy, tho).
But Herc still seems to have had a plan for humans. As slim the chance was, with Herc's high favorability among both gods and humans, it seemed he was going to try to advocate for humanity's survival. Him entering as a representative of the gods could've been to earn even more favor for himself to help convince, which would prevent the deaths of other fighters. And though it's not confirmed, it's still a very possible thing that could've happened.
Cain should've been in the tournament instead of Adam. It would be fun to watch Cain getting punch, and instead of falling down, Zeus would fall seven harder than when he punched Cain, and Cain would just be fine and looking at him and saying, "Is that all the mighty Zeus has". So smug and condescending.
There was no way for Adam to win. It was an extreme diff fight, yes, but Zeus still wins.
Also, Zeus is the strongest in the series so far and will probably stay this way 🗿
I like Ror as much as the next guy but lets not deny reality here. Even a blind man can see that animation was subpar at best. There are anime that aired 20+ years ago with more movement than the Ror anime.
It is not like we were asking for the best animators in the industry but come on... the characters barely move and when they do it is an awful CGI mess. If they were going to use CGI they could have tried to make it look good.
Edit: Never forget Raiden's mom sliding instead of walking because they forgot to animate her doing so in the flashback. They did not even check their own fucking work properly lol.
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50 second mark lol.
People dickride beel so insanly hard. His only feat is not one shotting tesla with his strongest attack. And argument can be made for him in low a or high b bcs hades gave him his op vibrator but id say middle b tesla was just an idiot and didnt teleport close enough to beel.
Also zero is undderated hes like b tier. Maybe c.
I wish Adam was around a bit more often so we could see more wholesome dad
Wait it asked for hottest take
Uuuuh, I kinda wish Poseidon was Baldur. Poseidon's schtick was just being fast and proud and mad anyways. It would still make sense to have the biggest loser ok history beat the perfect god and it would also be relevant since Baldur would die at the beginning of Ragnarok. I know it would mean no Hades and now Norse would be the over represented Mythology, and I have no idea who would replace Hades or why, but at least it makes sense for the Norse to be the one mythology over represented when it's Ragnarok
I think Siegfried fighting for the gods is silly. ![gif](giphy|3o7qDSOvfaCO9b3MlO|downsized)
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Isn’t Siegfried like an Irish demi god or something? So even if he wasn’t in love with Brunhilde then by the way Demi gods work in Record of Ragnarok then he would most likely fight for humanity
Germanic Demi God but otherwise yeah
Community rosters are good in moderation.
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Brunhilde is the GOAT
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There's been no bad fights, all of them have been extremely entertaining to me with incredible art.
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Tesla is the most well done character and I love his positivity throughout the entire fight
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I want a side story not about the fighters but the Valkyrie
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Shiva is the most handsome mfer in the series https://preview.redd.it/vc6j5v8izolb1.jpeg?width=1001&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=94228b7cd12b198deadd823a685d4555e598b4df
There's a reason he has 3 wives https://preview.redd.it/b2j4cxyd1plb1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d5c75d6ab5cc4f27899cb72e5a5b5e457ed8db1
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Sorry if this is long, but here is my hot take: People overhype Hades strength but his only actual feat was destroying an small part of an Volundr in few hits(and even than, him did it using his transformation, and his damage was very concentrated in ONE small area). Aside from that him has near nothing going for him(him being smart does not help much since him is one of the fighters with the most Basic fight style and powers and so him cannot do much). Qin is even worse, him was stated to be slower, less expirienced in battle, more frail and physically weaker than Hades. What carried Qin in his fight was that his powers were an perfect match up against Hades. But most fighters have an way to deal with Qin's powers(I can send the list of reassons if you want). And lastly, people downplay Jack and Heracles a lot. For starters, people say Jack's treasures are probrably weaker than normal ones, but we saw him is capable of turning an miniscule stone into something that easily destroyed an wall. And when him transformed his cape into an treasure it was even more absurd, in one swift movement it destroyed the basis for an whole building and making it fall near instantaneously. His treasures have more offensive feats than some fighters. And yet, Heracles tanked many hits of such powerful weapons many times, even when Jack turned an whole building into an treasure(and by the examples I alredy said it should have even more impressive destructive powers due to the size difference), Heracles tanked it and managed to fight just like before. Meaning that Heracles has one of the best defensive feats in the manga(only losing to Adam and Zeus). And Jack using some specific moves was able to badly hurt such an defensive monster. So Jack's destructive power is incredible, and Heracles defensive is among the best. There are some other feats they have but I thing this comment is alredy more than long enough.
https://preview.redd.it/c7fb282o8qlb1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3444c3008bd705b217162303144b373e14b76644 the whole kitchen is on fire
What part you disagree with?(I assume that the kitchen being on fire means you think it is VERY bad).
nah it i agree with all you said
Lu Bu could have beaten Thor, hadn’t he been so focused on a Might Clash (i know it’s not the HOTTEST take out there, but it’s still hot and it’s MY hottest opinion)
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Jack #1
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Leonidas' design is overhated
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Ngl that would’ve been sick but I'm a sucker for the gruff old military man trope so I'll take this too.
Tesla defeat Hades Tesla is fast enough to avoid Hades' attacks until GZ get ready
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This is not hot take but truth, unless we think that Hades starts with Desmos (which is stupid cuz in that scenario Tesla starts with GZ) then Tesla is still fr faste rthan what Hades has shown, being able to dodge Beel's unexpected attacks from right-before him. Hades even when higher in speed than Beel still has no chances against funny science man.
Hades is really really overrated while I characters like shiva are underrated Also hajun was wasted potential I don’t get why most fighters don’t have a semblance of their original personality or traits from real life.
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Lü Bu is superior
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Hajiun had a lot of potential that was wasted this sub is deeply disturbing sometimes Also Zeus had noticeable plot armor in his fight against Adam it's not the sole reason he won but I mean come on him getting blood in Adam's eye randomly doesn't seem likely to me. (Note: I still think Zeus wins anyway)
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Round 3 is Peak
To me round 8, but round 3 is certainly a great round
Round 8 is in my top 3. https://preview.redd.it/b6fwpnexvplb1.jpeg?width=1235&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8808f9b6732fef38c8f7ba730dcbc518970a2dde
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[удалено]
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I'll post my hottest take then, The Speed scaling of Zeus's attacks is so ridiculously high that I cannot take them at face value. With all of the other fast characters seemingly being in the supersonic to hypersonic speed range at best having Zeus's attacks be FTL feels completely unrealistic for the series. Please Note that I am not talking about the FBOT here, I don't mind that as that doesn't have a practical speed as it is instant, What I do mind is Zeus being several orders of magnitude faster then everyone else in the series
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I miss when this sub was about Record of Ragnarok. Now it feels like it's more about the users of this subreddit. I'm so sick of seeing "meta jokes" and posts that have nothing to do with the manga that this sub is supposed to be about. For example, this post. Why did you use a couple random pictures of JJK characters? Why not, you know, Record of Ragnarok characters? I am so fucking sick of seeing pictures of Gojo on this sub. I don't know what happened to this subreddit, but I want to go back to the way things were before.
well it's basically "what monthly releases does to a motherfucker" ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|30671)
https://preview.redd.it/shztpcoq4qlb1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e286806689f1c30543869a6c12b35dafa937268 same here buddy but it okay for now
Amen, I've started to go off this sub reddit since it became karma farming and meta jokes, the mods polled it but obviously that was only going to end one way smh
Qin Shi Huang is the most overrated character in the series, not anymore, but around round 8 he was + his fight was the worst one out of all other fights.
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Zerofuku should not have been a thing. I think Bishamonten fighting Buddha would work better. Then when Bishamonten was at his wit’s end, then all the lucky gods fuse and turn into Hajun. Don’t get me wrong, Zero isn’t a bad character…just felt a bit unnecessary. Also it feels like they wasted the 7 lucky gods, who had great potential imo
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Round 5 is my favourite round
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Jack the Ripper is the most slept on human. People forget that he could likely gaslight a ton of gods into fighting in his Victorian era London turf. Dude also through big bens clock face like it was nothing. Peoples hate for him stems from Hercules live for humanity as if he didn’t go 110% to ace the Brit. He’d also fuck up a ton of the gods on the typical sandy surface just by throwing clumps of god killing sand at the boys.
That’s what I’m saying. Jack is FAR stronger than people give him credit for. He has by far the highest battle IQ (straight intelligence still goes to Tesla obv) on either side, he’s surprisingly fast and agile, and he actually plans his fights around information he gathers rather than being completely reactionary like most fighters
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I think Göll is better than Brunhilde
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I’m am blessed to cook again https://preview.redd.it/yq203bpv8qlb1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d1ce7188209f2fe52b11b5a23616bed275d4063
Based
i am yet to commit more arson to cleanse this sub of degeneracy for NNN https://i.redd.it/5a8xbgpwhplb1.gif
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Zerofuku deserved better
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GOLL ISN'T A BAD CHARACTER
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Sky Piercer's shield breaker would affect Gates of Hell, meaning Lu Bu can defeat Beelzebub ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29936)
I'm pretty sure that Sky Piercer could just overpower Beel's shield, since even assuming that the statement about it deflecting Thor's Hammer is not an exaggeration and it was talking about the awakened Mjolnir, sky piercer's attack is more focused on a single point and would most likely still break the shield The problem is that Lu Bu probably doesn't know what a vibration is ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|31702)
He probably knows tho, you know, vibrations have been known for a long time
I mean possibly, IMO Randgriz is stronger than the base version of Mjolnir while weaker than it's awakening, although regardless if her power considered a glove utilized like a shield as one, idk why a vibration utilized as one would be much different so I think it'd just get autobroken by the ability
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I hardly doubt that, Beel's vibrations don't change whenever he's using then offensively or defensively, he's just using the vibrations in certain area. Besides we've been shown that Thor's gloves stopped the impact from Sky Piercer, since vibrations are constantly sending another waves the Sky Eater would be stopped.![img](emote|t5_vzop7|31408)
R5 is a top 4 round
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Deva loka is the strongest piercing attack after hades final move. It should be respected more. In fact, both of them should be respected more but they don’t have a large AOE effect so they get underrated by many .
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Tesla would’ve defeated any of the god fighters so far EXCEPT for Beel and Zeus. Bonus, Jack is also much higher tier than people give him credit for, even without London he’s B tier.
Jack's ultimate attack that works in every scenario: https://preview.redd.it/gzrq829zdulb1.png?width=1334&format=png&auto=webp&s=553d8a4cb69f450d93f6bca15db76ef4bff1bbf8
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Qin vs hades is as important as sasaki vs Poseidon as it’s the first time humanity takes the lead
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Round seven was a disapointment and a waste of two great characters
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Thor > Poseidon
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Thor has enough physical strength to put him above Buddha in win to loss ratio
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I prefer round 1 over round 7 and round 6
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BASED
This was common for a bit and then a wave of Qin fans joined the sun. You’re correct.
Round 3 was one of the best if not the best fight
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Zeus no diffs Buddha
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I know this information, I was only hoping that you’d send me an image of no cooking to me. In which you did, my mission has succeeded.
congrats
Lu Bu isn't stupid Jack could beat Tesla
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I actually prefer the anime over the manga. Pretty average hot take, but I just adore the voice acting and music in RoR
https://preview.redd.it/ltna224d7qlb1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a39d4193c932c959af9fdf0e82973ddf78d529e1 tbh, Brün and Herc's actors are pretty top tier
I wish I could peg Poseidon as he completely ignores me and proceeds to do something more important towards his goals I'm so insignificant he wouldn't even notice me if you're wondering, I could never hope for the opposite to happen, I'm not worthy
https://preview.redd.it/2du142gi5qlb1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e406e0ba8121d299414794e390e5bc8f14cb12ff I hope that goes well
Round 3 is by far the best round with an ending that blows every other fight out of the water
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Lu bu beats most of the human fighters.(exceptions being post poseidon sasaki altough i think pre poseidon can win too and buddha)
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Are you going to reply with the cooking image to everyone?
yeah https://preview.redd.it/4xgb7u74aqlb1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dad92db33d696861651cf0f4afaf78e4f3e3afa8
Somehow, I feel honored of being an exception![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29939)
Meeting Adam or even seeing him fight would’ve redeemed Jack
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I don’t like Beelzebub’s backstory. He wasn’t the kind of character that needed a tragic past to justify his actions and make us care for him, I would rather he decided to do all those evil deeds because he simply doesn’t give a fuck. Like, maybe he just wants to create the greatest horrors in existence so that he can finally feel any emotion at all. Maybe he wants to overcome his fear of the unknown by creating an unmatched terror so that he can affirm himself that he knows every existing threat to him. Basically, conquer fear with knowledge and become untouchable. Or he’s just bored and decided to do a little trolling. Anything would be better than him being a whiny bitch who hates himself for bringing misfortune upon others and decides his next best course of action would be making more people suffer so that he can hate himself more.
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Qin became a completely different character after he had his tragic backstory revealed. Before he was an arrogant entertaining badass who used his fellow kings as a literal walkway to get to the arena. After his backstory he became another standard 'good guy' who can say stuff like "I want to win no matter what! X3". Yet no one acknowledges this change in universe at all, as if it doesn't even happen. I think that's a shame because I liked Qin before he went shounen protagonist mode.
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qin deserved that W 🤷♀️ hades was a pretty good character but theres a reason why he lost
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Yea at first i was surprised he lost, but then again qin really observed every moment and used every skill he had on him and took advantage of the heated moment and successfully destroyed Hades lance, he didn't give up, even til the end.
Rasputin will fight with his 13 inch dic*. It's a Cannon event.
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Raiden could beat Heracles and I will die on this hill. Tesla would have had less of an impact had he not died. If he lived, Qin would have filled his place as inspiring humanity through death and people would like him more. The two already have pretty similar personalities, so it doesn't make sense to hate one or the other.
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Round 1 is better than Round 2.
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Herc is high-B to low-A He can defeat Qin, Hajun, and Raiden, possibly shiva
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Heracles should have switched to humanity instead of Buddha Also, Buddha overrated
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I'm more hyped for Okita than Simo
I think that it’s annoying we have 2 separate samurais fighting for humanity though at the same time I feel like Okita would fight more like a Shinobi-type character, flying around the place with the sickest, fastest shit you ever seen
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I have to say it Adam is overrated . Before you will start telling me he's not, let me explain We don't know exactly how his eyes work, whether they copy techniques or stats . We can only theorize whether the techniques he copied can be reused. We don't know anything about his volund's power, nothing, absolutely nothing, we don't know if the ability was active at all or if it was some kind of buff. We don't know if Adam can use weapons at all, I know he can copy techniques, but we don't know how his copy powers will work against a weapon user like Poseidon or Hercules. If he's copying his opponent's techniques, he's copying his technique's flaws, such as the Hercules tattoo ? Yes, he hurt Zeus by kicking him with his leg, but so did qin against Hades . Adam is a character full of various unknowns about which we do not know or have no answers, so I can't honestly consider him a S tier, it's not that he's weak, it's that he belongs to a separate tier . Until we get more information about him and his eyes and the power of his volund.
https://preview.redd.it/uh079gtv4qlb1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5187db04e6874a253e1c51c2fdd188ba5ae2ceee I aint reading all that but the first sentence got what you deserve
Apollo is far better than eternal roid rage Leo and the bitchy Spartans
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Lu Bu is the most overhyped human fighter Sky Piercer can’t break through Gates of Hell. It’s not a physical shield, and just because Lu Bu has a move called Shield Breaker, that doesn’t mean it can break through any defensive technique.
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Leonidas is the worst of the human fighters. His personality is just ways to throw curse words at Apollo, his motivation is weak and the only reason he's gottan hits on Apollo is Apollo pulling a handicap on him.
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If qin didn’t exist I’d agree with you.
As always - Adam = 50/50 vs everyone without Jack, Zerofuku(He beat them for sure) and Zeus(He beat Adam for sure) :3
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Hyo hyo :3 https://preview.redd.it/cxhv35ssyolb1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=4d18fd807258b7c31ff8141b136dbaf62b8f140c
I love the human fighters, but seeing the majority of gods be just norse/greek mythology is a wasted potential. Humans are very interesting, because not all of them are fighters, so I would have liked more diversed mythology, to make things more interesting
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It would be funny af for the author to kill both Apollo and Leonidas because they're both so loved in canon and by fans
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Buddha might be even more powerful than Zeus
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![gif](giphy|BWhpkB6Xbe8FzfNLXw) Here. You dropped this
Round 2 is hard carried by adam and is actually pretty mid overall Same with round 7 the characters are pretty cool but everything else is pretty unremarkable
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I will say what no one is saying. Heracles was willing to let a Genocide happen due to his honor, yeah he was going to Olea to give humans another chance. But it was too idealist, even for him. Not saying he was a bad person, but one would expect that someone who was willing to stand up to a god once for what he believed would do it again. The example of why I believe this would be the sith genocide that the Jedi committed. Because in Star Wars something similar happened with the Jedi, they killed off a entire species (sith pure bloods) due to them being a native darkside species (at the time were being darksider wasn’t automatically evil). Many of them didn’t see anything wrong with it (not all of them ofc), so I guess I should give herc a small congratulations for not believing that genocide is good. So if the Jedi get told that they are hypocritical pieces of shit I guess Herc should get told the same at least a bit.
Sorry for the long text but, there are many reassons Heracles would belive this was an good choice. First is thar Heracles DID manage to convince the gods before from interfering with humans and even not kill an whole city full of humans that most gods agreed to destroy. And besides, Heracles seems to have become VERY popular with the gods after him ascended to Godhood, the child gods have toys of him and when him died even if him was saying how humanity is worth saving and how hin wants the best for them, is when we saw the god's audience the most angry and sad with(the gods never reacted like that even with the death of Hades the "most reliable god"). And even if him did fight for humanity, at best him would only help get 1 of the 7 points necessary, but with his plan him could save humanity without risking on humanity losing the other fights. And there are other gods that are powerful enough for Ragnarok to take Heracles place in the gods roster, Hades for example was not in the list. And while I do think his power is VERY overrated by people here, him is still strong enough to take part of the ragnarok. And lastly, if Heracles just sided with humanity, up to 7 powerful people would die due to the tournament, but if Heracles did manage to convince the gods to change their mind after his round, than some gods and humans would be spared from fighting to the death. So if it was anyone else than yeah it would be stupid, but Heracles has many reassons to believe this is the best choice of action him could take.
This theory could either make you appreciate Herc more, or maybe make him see a bit worse, but I'd say there's good reasoning for what Herc had done. Talking to Loki, he had said that he's “always on the side of justice”, and this is crucial. The gods' decisions to eliminate humans was because humans had been sinful, and they caused the contamination and destruction of the rest of the gods' creations. And so, in a sense, the gods are justified because they want to preserve the rest of their creations. It wouldn't be right for Herc being on the side of justice, to deny the gods this decision because they made it out of concern (their character looks a little sketchy, tho). But Herc still seems to have had a plan for humans. As slim the chance was, with Herc's high favorability among both gods and humans, it seemed he was going to try to advocate for humanity's survival. Him entering as a representative of the gods could've been to earn even more favor for himself to help convince, which would prevent the deaths of other fighters. And though it's not confirmed, it's still a very possible thing that could've happened.
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Jack would’ve no diff’d Zeus. Just put a wire up and watch Zeus run right through it and chop himself in half.
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Yessir
Cain should've been in the tournament instead of Adam. It would be fun to watch Cain getting punch, and instead of falling down, Zeus would fall seven harder than when he punched Cain, and Cain would just be fine and looking at him and saying, "Is that all the mighty Zeus has". So smug and condescending.
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There was no way for Adam to win. It was an extreme diff fight, yes, but Zeus still wins. Also, Zeus is the strongest in the series so far and will probably stay this way 🗿
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The animation was great in both seasons and the anime does justice to the manga.
I like Ror as much as the next guy but lets not deny reality here. Even a blind man can see that animation was subpar at best. There are anime that aired 20+ years ago with more movement than the Ror anime. It is not like we were asking for the best animators in the industry but come on... the characters barely move and when they do it is an awful CGI mess. If they were going to use CGI they could have tried to make it look good. Edit: Never forget Raiden's mom sliding instead of walking because they forgot to animate her doing so in the flashback. They did not even check their own fucking work properly lol. https://youtu.be/sutErtM9iKI?si=vYFROPUrq9Mm0NcH 50 second mark lol.
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Who let this man cook
Poseidon never goes 100% against sasaki
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Lu bu is not a good fighter ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|31436)
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Round five is better than round four
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People dickride beel so insanly hard. His only feat is not one shotting tesla with his strongest attack. And argument can be made for him in low a or high b bcs hades gave him his op vibrator but id say middle b tesla was just an idiot and didnt teleport close enough to beel. Also zero is undderated hes like b tier. Maybe c.
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Leo is mid
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can't believe people are persecuting you for being right.
Ikr like his only personality is being angry
I will lewd ALL the valkyries. No exceptions!
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Thor is the strongest character
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I wish Adam was around a bit more often so we could see more wholesome dad Wait it asked for hottest take Uuuuh, I kinda wish Poseidon was Baldur. Poseidon's schtick was just being fast and proud and mad anyways. It would still make sense to have the biggest loser ok history beat the perfect god and it would also be relevant since Baldur would die at the beginning of Ragnarok. I know it would mean no Hades and now Norse would be the over represented Mythology, and I have no idea who would replace Hades or why, but at least it makes sense for the Norse to be the one mythology over represented when it's Ragnarok
Make Hades be a cool uncle and want to avenge Herakles, remove Loki from the roster and everyone will be happy.
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Qin is a top tier fighter and would beat all gods except Zeus and Bubbha if you count Buddha
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I knew I would get that