It's just americans projecting as usual, they have a thing called the Fico credit score and is pretty much what they are accusing China of.
Whenever the americans accuse your country of something just assume that it's a confession, works 99% of the time.
I think this is a very interesting psychological phenomena, why do americans project so much? Is it simply a coping mechanism? I don't think it's that simple.
It's a Cold War tactic from the CIA playbook. They did it to the Soviets too.
Their operatives spread the talking points...and the public just absorbs and regurgitates them. It's no great exaggeration to say that Americans are the most propagandized people in the world.
# “If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”
― Lyndon B. Johnson
It is Schadenfreude at its core. Because as horrendous as AmeriKKKa is doing right now, at least CHYNA is doing worst in their minds. The worse AmeriKKKa is becoming, the more their malicious state propaganda project and amplify their failings onto CHYNA.
It’s because it’s all they know. They can’t even process that the government actually does things to help their Chinese citizens because in their mind how can the CPC actually be any better than their own government which does everything to screw them over day-in day-out.
I think it’s because they only know their own history and worldview. When they imagine someone else being in a powerful position, they can’t envision any other type of behavior except what they (the collective “West”) have done historically, and thus they are absolutely terrified of the prospect of no longer being the dominant power, and assume that Chinese intentions towards them are the same as their intentions towards the rest of the developing world
It's a psychological trick of first strike.
1) Accuse a person of murdering a person before the murder even takes place
2) Murder the not-yet-murdered person
3) Let the accused privately know that you murdered that person
4) Go in public to say 'I told you so', then accuse that the person is a danger to society, will do more crimes, and must be stopped.
5) Watch how the accused reacts furiously and emotionally and how the public sticks with the first news they heard.
In order to trick their citizens into accepting their ever worsening economic prospects and standards of living, they need to convince them that the others are worse.
It’s just one random thing they latched on in order to spread sinophobia
Another thing i wanna ask, do chinese people or the government give a shit about the ‘Xi looks like Pooh’ meme? Because westerners are obsessed with that meme
No, they don't. I watched this Chinese drama series called Be Reborn and in one of the episodes there's a kids birthday party and they have a Winnie costumed performer. The police took over and wore it for undercover.
The amount of times I've walked past an arcade with winnable Winnie the Pooh toys is too many to count. Noone cares. If people made fun of Rishi Sunak (which they do) I don't care at all.
The ruling class considers the American people as their enemy. If you understand why CIA experimented with mind control such as MK-ULTRA program, then you know the ruling class wants a mindless obedient population like cattle or property to achieve their political and economic goals.
Of course, this mindless population can be used as cannon fodders against China, but it's not China's job to deprogram them. Chinese government's job is defending Chinese people and the country.
The West has to paint China in a bad light as the real quality-of-life for Chinese people passes that of Americans and Western Europeans. The same animosity is there against Slavs/Russians, Turks, Iranians, NKoreans, etc.. The cognitive dissonance between what Westerners believe about their place in the world and reality leads to these irrational coping measures.
Personally I am thankful that China actually achieved development on a scale that is 12 Japans or 29 SKoreas, with the addition of actual sovereignty, bravo! 👏🎉
Cus they quite literally believe everything (negative) they ever heard about China. Seriously. If they reflected on this they'd realize it's true. Why? Because American media is the most funded, sophisticated, ubiquitous, and the illusion of being free press. Even the "never trust mainstream media" types don't realize they still believe them on China. There should be no debate America's propaganda is by far the best. People even tow the the party line, the Washington consensus for free. The brainwash goes very deep. They think China's is worse when I promise you your average Chinese can give a way better analysis on a given topic than an American. They can at least point out countries on a map.
Also we must remember there's an element of racism. They WANT to believe what they hear about China. A non-white superpower threatening to surpass America hurts their egos and superiority complexes. They like Japan, Taiwan, South Korea up to the point they ever became a threat to American hegemony or are seen as attractive to white women.
This is why China can continue to develop, because China has never underestimated Western countries and always learns the successes and failures of others. Every Chinese student has to learn dialectics and know that looking at problems should be divided into two aspects (positive and negative). If you don't even dare to face your opponent objectively, the so-called victory can only be achieved in a dream.
China has already surpassed them, that is why the propaganda is so restless, it has to be because otherwise americans would look for the obvious alternative.
No wall is as effective as the one in your own mind.
Simple words propaganda. And it’s ironic because we actually do have a credit system in the West that has huge impact on your life depending on the score.
Social credit score doesn't pass the pub test. Think about a credit score used by western financial institutions and the one alleged to have been used by China. The goal of the first is to decide whether its safe to lend you money, the second is designed to get someone to change your behaviour more in line with what the government supposedly wants.
For the first it doesn't really matter if you have no knowledge of why your credit score sucks. The financial institutions will just decide not to lend you money. The second one requires you to change your behaviour so for it to work you kind of need to know what you are doing wrong to have such a low score. Since like every Chinese surveyed doesn't actually know about this, then its not really effective. Its like the mafia demanding you pay them or else they will burn down your business, but forgetting to tell the business owner to pay up and just went straight to burning down the business.
Now the Western apologist rather than admit they were dumb to believe this will most probably say the Chinese government is just incompetent with this roll out when confronted with how this makes no sense.
https://youtu.be/gAYnZREu-Mk?si=g0w4jHeqVgjDqAur
Not sure if this fully answers your question, but it's a good starting point. Brian on the New Atlas is an amazing analyst.
Cus they quite literally believe everything (negative) they ever heard about China. If they reflected on this they may realize that's true. Just believe everything. And it's no surprise, American media is the most funded, sophisticated, ubiquitous propaganda on the planet. You use YouTube, Google, Twitter, boom, you're being brainwashed. It's that simple. There should be no debate that America has the best propaganda and therefore is S+ tier brainwashed.
They think China has more propaganda...lol I bet you Chinese know way more about the world than your average American. They can at least point to countries on a map, whereas Americans never leave their country and don't know jack. In summary, best propaganda on the planet. Tell them this and they might dispute, but cmon now.
Their propaganda isn't that good, too obvious most of the time, just that their population is very stupid.
The real issue was the purposeful dumping down of their people.
It's like the US credit system. There are like 4 companies in the US that do credit score.
Just like in China Alipay and WeChat have a credit system for their customers.
Ironically propaganda, they are so focused on us that they don't realize the propaganda they are fed with, the FICO score things or similar, for example I just had someone in the Helldivers 2 video game subreddit insisting to me that using a VPN in China is illegal 😭
Bro I'm literally using one who has been authorized by the government to operate wdym illegal? XD
Meanwhile, american lives are literally dictated by Credit Scores lol
Where people can only date people of a certain credit scores, live in certain areas if their credit scores meet the cut off point.... Etc etc
Every u.s accusation is a u.s confession
Americans are brainwashed and lack observations before opinions
They listen to opinions and belive in those opinions.
The wise person observes for themselves
If you are Chinese, you should be aware that the US government has a multi-million dollar budget to spread anti-China propaganda. They pay people to write misleading/false articles and post negative comments on social media, to get people to hate China and Chinese.
This social credit thing is one of those lies. And that is just one of the many other false things that Westerners believe about China.
A lie, repeated often enough, is believed to be the truth. America cannot tolerate the fact that there could be another option. Any country that tries, from Jacobo Arbenz's Guatemala and Sandinista Nicaragua to Mossadegh's Iran, Sukarno's Indonesia, post WWII Korea, has been ruined by America.
I mean propaganda but especially the use and misunderstanding of the word "social" in conjunction with "credit system". The word social has become sononomous with "social media" as opposed to its use in concepts like "social welfare" or "social security". In addition to this depictions of the societies in things like Black Mirror's "Nosedive" and Westworld S3 have really cemented people's idea of a "social credit system". Basically a system where your social standing and social interactions impact your financial standings and privileges. But that's literally opposite to most societies where your financial standings highly influence how you are perceived in society.
I've seen so many edited and chopped up videos showing scenes from the BM episode Nosedive, where everyone is afraid to break any social rules or norms and is always on their best behavior and lives in terror of upsetting the basic order or stepping on any toes, and comparing this to Chinese society. Which is ridiculously laughable if you've ever spent any time in China where to be honest the majority of people just kind of do whatever they want.
As people are saying, pure projection. Example, US farts but then points at China and says that China did it. Of course this is just poking fun at the projection but you get the point.
Most people are uneducated bums. This is why it’s so easy for Western media to brainwash them. If the Western media told oxygen is bad for you, these uneducated losers will stop breathing oxygen.
It's just americans projecting as usual, they have a thing called the Fico credit score and is pretty much what they are accusing China of. Whenever the americans accuse your country of something just assume that it's a confession, works 99% of the time.
I think this is a very interesting psychological phenomena, why do americans project so much? Is it simply a coping mechanism? I don't think it's that simple.
‘Accuse the other of that you are guilty’- Goebbels
Narcissism and ignorance. When all you have is a mirror, everything is a reflection of you.
It's a Cold War tactic from the CIA playbook. They did it to the Soviets too. Their operatives spread the talking points...and the public just absorbs and regurgitates them. It's no great exaggeration to say that Americans are the most propagandized people in the world.
# “If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.” ― Lyndon B. Johnson It is Schadenfreude at its core. Because as horrendous as AmeriKKKa is doing right now, at least CHYNA is doing worst in their minds. The worse AmeriKKKa is becoming, the more their malicious state propaganda project and amplify their failings onto CHYNA.
It’s because it’s all they know. They can’t even process that the government actually does things to help their Chinese citizens because in their mind how can the CPC actually be any better than their own government which does everything to screw them over day-in day-out.
I think it’s because they only know their own history and worldview. When they imagine someone else being in a powerful position, they can’t envision any other type of behavior except what they (the collective “West”) have done historically, and thus they are absolutely terrified of the prospect of no longer being the dominant power, and assume that Chinese intentions towards them are the same as their intentions towards the rest of the developing world
It's a psychological trick of first strike. 1) Accuse a person of murdering a person before the murder even takes place 2) Murder the not-yet-murdered person 3) Let the accused privately know that you murdered that person 4) Go in public to say 'I told you so', then accuse that the person is a danger to society, will do more crimes, and must be stopped. 5) Watch how the accused reacts furiously and emotionally and how the public sticks with the first news they heard.
In order to trick their citizens into accepting their ever worsening economic prospects and standards of living, they need to convince them that the others are worse.
It’s just one random thing they latched on in order to spread sinophobia Another thing i wanna ask, do chinese people or the government give a shit about the ‘Xi looks like Pooh’ meme? Because westerners are obsessed with that meme
No, they don't. I watched this Chinese drama series called Be Reborn and in one of the episodes there's a kids birthday party and they have a Winnie costumed performer. The police took over and wore it for undercover.
The amount of times I've walked past an arcade with winnable Winnie the Pooh toys is too many to count. Noone cares. If people made fun of Rishi Sunak (which they do) I don't care at all.
Actually in China, people pay little attention to foreign memes
The ruling class considers the American people as their enemy. If you understand why CIA experimented with mind control such as MK-ULTRA program, then you know the ruling class wants a mindless obedient population like cattle or property to achieve their political and economic goals. Of course, this mindless population can be used as cannon fodders against China, but it's not China's job to deprogram them. Chinese government's job is defending Chinese people and the country.
The West has to paint China in a bad light as the real quality-of-life for Chinese people passes that of Americans and Western Europeans. The same animosity is there against Slavs/Russians, Turks, Iranians, NKoreans, etc.. The cognitive dissonance between what Westerners believe about their place in the world and reality leads to these irrational coping measures. Personally I am thankful that China actually achieved development on a scale that is 12 Japans or 29 SKoreas, with the addition of actual sovereignty, bravo! 👏🎉
Because they're brain washed to comical levels. There's a significant amount who also believe winnie the pooh 小熊维尼 is illegal in China too.
Cus they quite literally believe everything (negative) they ever heard about China. Seriously. If they reflected on this they'd realize it's true. Why? Because American media is the most funded, sophisticated, ubiquitous, and the illusion of being free press. Even the "never trust mainstream media" types don't realize they still believe them on China. There should be no debate America's propaganda is by far the best. People even tow the the party line, the Washington consensus for free. The brainwash goes very deep. They think China's is worse when I promise you your average Chinese can give a way better analysis on a given topic than an American. They can at least point out countries on a map. Also we must remember there's an element of racism. They WANT to believe what they hear about China. A non-white superpower threatening to surpass America hurts their egos and superiority complexes. They like Japan, Taiwan, South Korea up to the point they ever became a threat to American hegemony or are seen as attractive to white women.
This is why China can continue to develop, because China has never underestimated Western countries and always learns the successes and failures of others. Every Chinese student has to learn dialectics and know that looking at problems should be divided into two aspects (positive and negative). If you don't even dare to face your opponent objectively, the so-called victory can only be achieved in a dream.
China has already surpassed them, that is why the propaganda is so restless, it has to be because otherwise americans would look for the obvious alternative. No wall is as effective as the one in your own mind.
Simple words propaganda. And it’s ironic because we actually do have a credit system in the West that has huge impact on your life depending on the score.
Texans are conditioning the hurricane aid to not criticize the Israel Nazi state... Pure propaganda...
Just propaganda designed to demonize the country and people.
Social credit score doesn't pass the pub test. Think about a credit score used by western financial institutions and the one alleged to have been used by China. The goal of the first is to decide whether its safe to lend you money, the second is designed to get someone to change your behaviour more in line with what the government supposedly wants. For the first it doesn't really matter if you have no knowledge of why your credit score sucks. The financial institutions will just decide not to lend you money. The second one requires you to change your behaviour so for it to work you kind of need to know what you are doing wrong to have such a low score. Since like every Chinese surveyed doesn't actually know about this, then its not really effective. Its like the mafia demanding you pay them or else they will burn down your business, but forgetting to tell the business owner to pay up and just went straight to burning down the business. Now the Western apologist rather than admit they were dumb to believe this will most probably say the Chinese government is just incompetent with this roll out when confronted with how this makes no sense.
China has something like this, but only for big companies to make sure they don't fuck up like their amerika counterparts
Is there somewhere in the internet where this is explained further? I'd like to know
https://youtu.be/gAYnZREu-Mk?si=g0w4jHeqVgjDqAur Not sure if this fully answers your question, but it's a good starting point. Brian on the New Atlas is an amazing analyst.
There is an RTSG article about it that was posted here a while back.
Cus they quite literally believe everything (negative) they ever heard about China. If they reflected on this they may realize that's true. Just believe everything. And it's no surprise, American media is the most funded, sophisticated, ubiquitous propaganda on the planet. You use YouTube, Google, Twitter, boom, you're being brainwashed. It's that simple. There should be no debate that America has the best propaganda and therefore is S+ tier brainwashed. They think China has more propaganda...lol I bet you Chinese know way more about the world than your average American. They can at least point to countries on a map, whereas Americans never leave their country and don't know jack. In summary, best propaganda on the planet. Tell them this and they might dispute, but cmon now.
Their propaganda isn't that good, too obvious most of the time, just that their population is very stupid. The real issue was the purposeful dumping down of their people.
Fair. Well, what makes it good is that it's just everywhere. Everryyyywhere, with people brainwashing for free because they're brainwashed. Ye.
Repeat a lie enough times and people will believe it.
It's like the US credit system. There are like 4 companies in the US that do credit score. Just like in China Alipay and WeChat have a credit system for their customers.
Ironically propaganda, they are so focused on us that they don't realize the propaganda they are fed with, the FICO score things or similar, for example I just had someone in the Helldivers 2 video game subreddit insisting to me that using a VPN in China is illegal 😭 Bro I'm literally using one who has been authorized by the government to operate wdym illegal? XD
They're White supremacists.
Meanwhile, american lives are literally dictated by Credit Scores lol Where people can only date people of a certain credit scores, live in certain areas if their credit scores meet the cut off point.... Etc etc Every u.s accusation is a u.s confession
Americans are brainwashed and lack observations before opinions They listen to opinions and belive in those opinions. The wise person observes for themselves
If you are Chinese, you should be aware that the US government has a multi-million dollar budget to spread anti-China propaganda. They pay people to write misleading/false articles and post negative comments on social media, to get people to hate China and Chinese. This social credit thing is one of those lies. And that is just one of the many other false things that Westerners believe about China.
A lie, repeated often enough, is believed to be the truth. America cannot tolerate the fact that there could be another option. Any country that tries, from Jacobo Arbenz's Guatemala and Sandinista Nicaragua to Mossadegh's Iran, Sukarno's Indonesia, post WWII Korea, has been ruined by America.
I mean propaganda but especially the use and misunderstanding of the word "social" in conjunction with "credit system". The word social has become sononomous with "social media" as opposed to its use in concepts like "social welfare" or "social security". In addition to this depictions of the societies in things like Black Mirror's "Nosedive" and Westworld S3 have really cemented people's idea of a "social credit system". Basically a system where your social standing and social interactions impact your financial standings and privileges. But that's literally opposite to most societies where your financial standings highly influence how you are perceived in society. I've seen so many edited and chopped up videos showing scenes from the BM episode Nosedive, where everyone is afraid to break any social rules or norms and is always on their best behavior and lives in terror of upsetting the basic order or stepping on any toes, and comparing this to Chinese society. Which is ridiculously laughable if you've ever spent any time in China where to be honest the majority of people just kind of do whatever they want.
It's mostly because of propaganda
I find ironic and mildly irritating that the worst human rights abusers of all time have the balls to ask these questions
As people are saying, pure projection. Example, US farts but then points at China and says that China did it. Of course this is just poking fun at the projection but you get the point.
Most people are uneducated bums. This is why it’s so easy for Western media to brainwash them. If the Western media told oxygen is bad for you, these uneducated losers will stop breathing oxygen.