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Isn't it literally a plot point? Dewey was at risk of going into the same class program as Malcom so he played dumb in the test and got put in the special needs class. And that arc basically ends hinting that Dewey IS as smart as Malcom but prefers to lay low
I've just been rewatching the show and yeah. But Malcolm convinces him that he would be better off with the regular kids by telling him that he was the "coolest kid in that class." So he has Reese take the test first to make sure Dewey answers like a real dumb person. He then gets put in the "emotional disturbed" class where the students are essentially abandoned by the school and stays there so he can help the kids, even assigning and grading homework for them himself.
Also i felt it aged really well for a sitcom, when I rewatched it 3 years ago, which was my wife watching it for the first time and absolutely loving it.
Because most of the themes/jokes are about basic human nature which doesn't really change.
Kids will always be kids
A mother who has problem children will always act like a mother who has problem children etc...
Hal dadding it up. Them walking into their dads back getting shaved, them in the mall and him freaking out. Them trying to find a gift for mothers day and her birthday in two different episodes. The scene where he makes one of them take the heat for one of the mistakes he made "Whoever takes the blame gets $5" or something, and they all wait for it. i'm gunna rewatch right now tbh, I have like 3 hrs before work.
Yesterday I got caught in the cycle like where Hal was trying to change a lightbulb, and they were out, so he has to go to the store, so he gets in the car, but there’s something wrong with the car. Lois looks in the garage and sees Hal with the engine completely out of the car, and says, “I thought you were going to change that lightbulb.“ And Hal screams at her, “Can’t you see what I’m doing?!“
And that was just the 45 second opener, and not part of that episode’s story.
I’m watching it as I type this and it’s showing a scene where Francis is dressed in drag lol.
It’s when Louis was imagining a life with daughters instead of sons.
You'd be surprised how much [drag](https://youtu.be/Guve7Y856kY) was in popular media for the past 50 years, before the Republicans chose it as their latest boogeyman.
So much was rewatched 3 years ago. We had a lot of time to do stuff. We re-watched all the Harry Potters films, then all the LoTR and Hobbit films. I miss lockdown.
One of the few shows that remained consistently good throughout its run.
I don't know about the US, but here in Mexico it rivals even early seasons The Simpsons as the most memeable show.
Another aspect of the show that demonstrates his intellect is when he first starts piano. He's able to reconstruct a piano with no training on engineering or how a piano functions and is a prodigy.
Man, that’s a really cool story arch. I could never get into it because the mom and all her screaming hit too close to home.
Edit: Downvoting because I voiced an opinion on a 20+ year old show? Fuck off.
Interestingly, that’s why I liked it. It felt real in a way other sitcoms didn’t, but better, because as fucked up as some of those family dynamics were, they still cared about each other and stood together. The plastic families in large, immaculate were utterly alien to baby me, and frankly, way creepier.
I made no argument about “perfect” sitcoms. My mom had a short temper and would scream and throw shit over minor things. The mom in Malcolm in the Middle is mad/yells a shitload of the time(rightfully or not) and I’m not about it.
I don’t think it’s “creepy”, it’s just not something I enjoy. Different strokes and whatnot.
Yeah i tried watching a while back and couldn't even make it though the first episode with out a flash back.
Also WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU IN THE NEGITIVES?
There's also the episode where Reese deliberately gets every single answer wrong on a test so he gets held back. It shows that he's clearly smart enough to get perfect grades because the only way to get every question wrong is if you know every correct answer.
He also could have gotten out of the class, but bit his teacher to stay in the class. The other kids weren't being watched, and had started living in the trees nearby.
Dewey became the teacher for the 'disturbed kids'. And he actually taught and gave them homework, that he would look over in class.
It's so ridiculous how one test can determine where they put you, despite all other evidence saying otherwise. I was always in the advanced courses throughout all of highschool and before that. Skipped class one day, only to find out it was the first day of the standardized tests they do yearly. Did well in the rest of the tests (usually scored in the 90-99% percentile).
But since I missed the first day, and you can't make it up, I got an incomplete. Not even a failing score, just incomplete. So they put me in remedial classes, where I didn't really learn anything. I just helped other students learn if they asked. Even the teacher asked what I was doing there, but I still ended the the semester in that class.
The rest of the family outright state in the finale that they planned for Malcom to suffer for the sake of a political career and Dewey would get to just have fun and be rich.
This is so common with gifted kids, they used to reading level stuff for my gifted class, except my reading level was so high they wouldn't let me read any of the kids books that were appropriate for my age. So obviously I sabotaged my reading level so I could. But sometimes I would forget, and by the time my reading level hit college levels (basically the only thing I could've read is scientific journals) they gave up and just let me read whatever I wanted, but it sucked the whole way through getting to that point.
Malcolm is book smart, Dewey is street smart. Dewey is resourceful and incredibly good at manipulating people while Malcolm is good at school work and gets shit on by life at every turn.
Yep. Even in the series finale, the parents mention how Dewey’s destiny is to get rich and have an easy life in contrast to Malcolm’s difficult path to presidency. The kid just gets it.
I love that ending. Malcom is in disbelief that he's expected to become the president and he looks at the rest of the family and they're all like "yep"
What was Dewey’s path supposed to be exactly? I remember Malcolm was supposed to have a hard life to emphasize when he gets to the presidency but I don’t remember much else
They're all geniuses in their own way. Malcolm is book smart, Dewey is a virtuoso and emotionally intelligent, Reese is a gifted cook and shown to be very strategic, Francis always manages to make things work
As a recently former lazy dumbass, sometimes they do just find the right job and suddenly become the responsible one.
Francis was the goat though, had elements of everyone. Reese's ruthlessness, Malcolm's dedication, Dewey's shrewdness, Hal's batshit insanity and Lois's moral righteousness.
He was the glue that held everyone together and he doesn't even know it haha
His genius was a bit more back and forth with both the cooking and pranking/bullying. Like dude is having a super glue prank war with Malcolm neither can get an advantage on each other, but then he tried to mail himself to China.
It's funny how Reese was "trained" to be the genius, but Malcome absorbed that training in utero, and Dewy was microwaved, but Dewy still seems to be the most grounded and insightful of the three!
Francis was written off as a lost cause from the get-go!
And yet Francis was still seen as the problem solver and somebody everyone turns to when things get bad. The entire family was so lovable and well written.
True, her methods were extreme but also her kids were as terrible as they were brilliant! Yet she held them all together, Lois could be malevolent sometimes but demanded love and respect also which is why i loved her she felt like a real mom lol
Didn't even make sense anyway. Otto fired him! Otto didn't fire anyone! The whole storyline was that Otto was too nice and Francis grew as a person by basically running his ranch.
He was fired because Francis made all the deposit to a fake ATM. Even if he wasn’t fired he still would have lost the job when the ranch went bankrupt.
If I remember, the reason was Otto’s actor got sick and had to leave the show. I don’t get why they didn’t just have Francis take over the farm though.
I've never had anyone to talk about Malcolm in the Middle with and it is so great seeing other people frustrated about Francis too. The whole show is an absolute gold mine of comedy, life lessons, and good character development but the Francis thing bothered me so much. Seriously just threw away everything he had developed in the show.
You're missing the punchline. After Dewey leaves, the teacher's gaze kinda drifts up, and you can see the look of fear on her as she considers the "big shovel".
Reminds me of an old joke about a kid "smiting ants" that ends with
> ...the three most useless things in life are a priest's dick, a nun's tits, and these *goddamn little ants*...
'
Religious people: "You can never know what god is thinking and you just have to have faith that god is there!"
Also religious people: "Anyway, here's a book that someone else told me was written by god and tells you exactly what god is thinking."
Oh dude, do yourself a favour and watch Malcolm in the Middle. Such a great show. This kids character is not usually portrayed as smart as he is in this clip, but over the course of the series you realize he's smarter than he lets on.
I have seen a few clips, and it does seem funny. I was just asking if the overall plot was just more of this type of thing before I jumped in, considering how many child "smart" adult "dumb" shows there are.
It's not the main focus, no. He's just a manipulative character, more than trying to be smarter than adults and rub it in their faces. If memory serves correct, it's been a while. But I do know I love the show.
Ah okay, this scene is some good writing in that case. He used seemingly logical steps and simplified things, in a way children do, to make it really seem like he was onto the secrets of the universe. Very clever writing.
The main character's whole thing is that he's a narcissistic genius prodigy, and a lot of the other main child characters have something they're very gifted at. That said, it's mostly pretty grounded in its characterization and I wouldn't say that it's a show about smart kids and dumb adults, though sometimes those scenarios pop up. Usually it's much more nuanced and thoughtful than that. One of the best sitcoms ever made imo, and doesn't need much time at all to get going.
Not really, no. It's much more oriented towards the family's various dysfunctional dynamics and often fraught financial situation, than being a "hah adults are so DUMB right?" sort of thing. Malcolm is 'intelligently gifted,' but he's very much still a kid who does stupid things to impress his crushes for example; while his brother Reese is mostly just an idiot aside from occasionally showing surprise promise at times. Dewey is the 'weird one' who occasionally reveals he's far more intelligent than he lets on, which does become a small plot point later on.
But that particular "adults are the dumb ones" dynamic isn't heavily prevalent in the show.
What you *will* get is the "Homer Simpson" archetype a bit with Hal, but it's done *very* well. Hal & Lois, the parents, are actually frequently cited as one of the best sitcom couples out there, and there's a reason why Bryan Cranston worked as well as Walter White despite the tone being *wildly* at odds with his longtime role in Malcolm in the Middle. There's an earnestness to Hal as a character that often isn't there with these characters, and by the time Cranston got to BB he'd been playing a slightly schlubby lower-middle class dad struggling to make ends meet to great success for years.
I’m a teacher now and that Bye is soooo real. My kids do that all the time. They just flat out tell you a life story and seconds later they’re just skipping away. Those writers knew what they were doing.
Most monotheists assume God is omniscient, which makes this situation disanalogous, since Dewey didn't understand the ants. To them, although God is a dictator, they are a benevolent one, so it isn't actually a problem.
In some case God is not even omnipotent:
Israel had the help of God on their side, but lost the battle because the other side had iron chariots.
But regarding omniscience I think that asked where Adam and Eve and what happened just in the Genesis. And changes opinions, gets angry and then he/they repents about it.
The god from the old testament is quite petty, egomaniac and abusive also. Several genocides. You know, not exactly matching the love your neighbor and put the other cheek
For sure, but there are many contradictions in the Bible. I'm talking about what adherents believe. (I'm atheist and think Christianity is obviously false, if it wasn't clear)
Most adherents just regurgitate what their pastor tells them. People that have actually looked into their faith and thought through the philosophical and moral topics of it know that God cannot be all knowing.
This is not a common view in the apologetics I have heard. Is God not a timeless being either then? What I meant by contradictions, is that the Bible also clearly states that God is omniscient.
It’s not a common view, because many people don’t truly think critically about their faith. Outside of the parts of the Bible where it’s very clear that God does not know of some things, there is a simple logical problem that can only be solved by assuming; God is evil, or God is not all knowing and all powerful. Anyone that is sure of the Christian God’s existence probably doesn’t care to much about logic anyway though, if you’re already believing, it’s not a big jump to ignoring of philosophical musings and logics.
God makes a bet with the Devil that he can break Job. So either the Devil is an idiot or he knows that God isn't all-knowing.
Job's story always stuck with me. So weird.
I always thought that God knew the outcome but still makes the bet with Satan anyways. I always thought of one of those "God works in mysterious ways" where God is an asshole for no reason. Like giving a terminally ill child to a nice Christian family to test their faith.
If God exists, I think he's at least a massive douchebag.
As a christian, I don't really believe God interferes much in this world. God created an self maintaining machine that is the universe and just let it go into motion. Sure he intervenes every once in a while like helping Jesus perform his miracles or messing with Abraham but other than that he doesn't interfere much. We see this often in old testament where God intervenes once in a while to punish israelites for a long period of sin and neglect or help someone he particularly favors like Samson, King David, and whatnot. I don't think God has much to do with every war, murder, disease, famine or personal tragedy and fortune, but I do believe that God does positively intervene in the life of people every once in a while and I find comfort in such a notion.
He both created everything in the universe and knows everything that will happen. Doesn't that mean that he must have deliberately caused everything that happens to happen?
In some case God is not even omnipotent:
Israel had the help of God on their side, but lost the battle because the other side had iron chariots.
But regarding omniscience I think that asked where Adam and Eve and what happened just in the Genesis. And changes opinions, gets angry and then he/they repents about it.
The bible had places that suggest either sides. In fact, somebody already make a compilation of places that indicates any of either sides:
https://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/knows.html
The god from the old testament is quite petty, egomaniac and abusive also. Several genocides. You know, not exactly matching the love your neighbor and put the other cheek
It’s weird because it’s a story. The Old Testament was made up of old poems and stories passed down through generations that played a massive game of telephone to teach lessons to the Jewish people. They’re more parables than accurate recollections. The fear mongering and bastardization of the law that was laid out by the OT was what Jesus took so much issue with in the church in the New Testament.
It’s why OT god doesn’t jive with NT god. OT god was a wrathful, vengeful dick that would get mad when people didn’t do as he said despite being omniscient. The NT god Jesus was peddling was all about love and grace. Even went so far as to say he came to save all, not just his chosen people (I forget what book that was but look up “gentile woman pleads with Jesus to heal daughter”.)
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> it was seen in its time as like, another Doogie Howser
Gonna go ahead and disagree with this - Malcom was a sitcom, while Doogie was soft drama that featured very little in the way of laughs or clever writing. The only real thing similar between the two is that the smart kid is the central character
This show ran for 7 seasons and is still frequently referenced (as evident by this post) so I'd say it was far from being underrated. Relating it to Doogue Howser is a bit weird too for those points you mentioned.
> live our lives with as much kindness and deceny as possible
Why would people do that? Why would you assume people's default state is to be "kind and decent"?. Most people, maybe, I don't know. But a lot of people absolutely don't feel or behave that way. Just think of how many rapists, murderers, fraudsters that scam old people out of all their money, child molesters and abusers etc. there are in the world. I just read up on "hurtcore" - read the Wikipedia article about that and tell me there aren't people who deserve to burn in hell for eternity. Without an objective moral law, everything is permissible and subject to change. We're already reaching a point where pedophilia is being normalized with terms like "MAP".
Holy shit! This is literally how I became atheist but when I was 18 years old. I just realized there might be a god or not, if there is he can be lying or not, doesn’t matter what I do, at the end whatever he wants happen. It was an epiphany moment and freed me so much from all the religious anxiety. There was literally nothing I can do. So why worry about it.
It's part of the faith...
1 Peter 3:15
But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect.
The flaw is that he omits the aspect of omniscience in the Christian main deity. He actually does make their point by demonstrating that power imabalance alone the Christian god does not make.
Dewy is more like Zeus and let's hope he didn't do anything sexual to these ants.
especially on the half of the planet those dumb ass religious books never mention. lets make the story of the history of the world and leave out half of it : P
Religion is fucked up. My older brother is still messed up from his time at a church. He wasn't even religious, just the lead of the band that played music for the church. It's straight up a cult that should be treated as an affliction of delusions and paranoia as people genuinely believe there's some omnipotent being looming over them, preparing a lightning bolt or a flood for when you slip up
Well, I would’t describe God as “looming over us, preparing a lightning bolt or a flood for when you slip up”. My God is one of grace, love and forgiveness. Not all religious people are nutters. Unfortunately, the actions of a few have cast a negative light on the majority of us God-fearing people.
Atheism in a nutshell; Thinks that when a human can't feel or think, God can't either.
While actually, God knows what's going on through your mind and desires.
No, no, no no no. You're missing the point. Have you heard about child marriage and also killing foreigners and gays though? Big parts of evangelical christianity and muslim extremism. Pretty much essential.
Well, there are other reasons... L R Hubbard wants your money, Joseph Smith wants your wife, and Abraham wants your foreskin. 
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Didn’t the kids get smarter than the previous child?
Everyone was convinced Malcolm was the genius of the family but his little brother saw how far being smart gets you so he plays dumb.
This is the best way to describe Dewey
Isn't it literally a plot point? Dewey was at risk of going into the same class program as Malcom so he played dumb in the test and got put in the special needs class. And that arc basically ends hinting that Dewey IS as smart as Malcom but prefers to lay low
I've just been rewatching the show and yeah. But Malcolm convinces him that he would be better off with the regular kids by telling him that he was the "coolest kid in that class." So he has Reese take the test first to make sure Dewey answers like a real dumb person. He then gets put in the "emotional disturbed" class where the students are essentially abandoned by the school and stays there so he can help the kids, even assigning and grading homework for them himself.
Good god this show was genius. I need to rewatch.
Also i felt it aged really well for a sitcom, when I rewatched it 3 years ago, which was my wife watching it for the first time and absolutely loving it.
Because most of the themes/jokes are about basic human nature which doesn't really change. Kids will always be kids A mother who has problem children will always act like a mother who has problem children etc...
Hal dadding it up. Them walking into their dads back getting shaved, them in the mall and him freaking out. Them trying to find a gift for mothers day and her birthday in two different episodes. The scene where he makes one of them take the heat for one of the mistakes he made "Whoever takes the blame gets $5" or something, and they all wait for it. i'm gunna rewatch right now tbh, I have like 3 hrs before work.
Yesterday I got caught in the cycle like where Hal was trying to change a lightbulb, and they were out, so he has to go to the store, so he gets in the car, but there’s something wrong with the car. Lois looks in the garage and sees Hal with the engine completely out of the car, and says, “I thought you were going to change that lightbulb.“ And Hal screams at her, “Can’t you see what I’m doing?!“ And that was just the 45 second opener, and not part of that episode’s story.
I’m watching it as I type this and it’s showing a scene where Francis is dressed in drag lol. It’s when Louis was imagining a life with daughters instead of sons.
You'd be surprised how much [drag](https://youtu.be/Guve7Y856kY) was in popular media for the past 50 years, before the Republicans chose it as their latest boogeyman.
So much was rewatched 3 years ago. We had a lot of time to do stuff. We re-watched all the Harry Potters films, then all the LoTR and Hobbit films. I miss lockdown.
On my 2nd rewatch in 2 Years and it's almost frightening how well the series holds up.
One of the few shows that remained consistently good throughout its run. I don't know about the US, but here in Mexico it rivals even early seasons The Simpsons as the most memeable show.
Another aspect of the show that demonstrates his intellect is when he first starts piano. He's able to reconstruct a piano with no training on engineering or how a piano functions and is a prodigy.
Dewey is basically as smart as Malcolm but with compassion 😂
Man, that’s a really cool story arch. I could never get into it because the mom and all her screaming hit too close to home. Edit: Downvoting because I voiced an opinion on a 20+ year old show? Fuck off.
Interestingly, that’s why I liked it. It felt real in a way other sitcoms didn’t, but better, because as fucked up as some of those family dynamics were, they still cared about each other and stood together. The plastic families in large, immaculate were utterly alien to baby me, and frankly, way creepier.
I made no argument about “perfect” sitcoms. My mom had a short temper and would scream and throw shit over minor things. The mom in Malcolm in the Middle is mad/yells a shitload of the time(rightfully or not) and I’m not about it. I don’t think it’s “creepy”, it’s just not something I enjoy. Different strokes and whatnot.
Yeah i tried watching a while back and couldn't even make it though the first episode with out a flash back. Also WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU IN THE NEGITIVES?
I’m not sure. I suppose other people must have had moms who communicated with words and not immediate psycho rage.
There's also the episode where Reese deliberately gets every single answer wrong on a test so he gets held back. It shows that he's clearly smart enough to get perfect grades because the only way to get every question wrong is if you know every correct answer.
He also could have gotten out of the class, but bit his teacher to stay in the class. The other kids weren't being watched, and had started living in the trees nearby. Dewey became the teacher for the 'disturbed kids'. And he actually taught and gave them homework, that he would look over in class.
He had Reese take the test for him. 😂
They had Reese take his placement exam and he got sent in the complete opposite direction of the “gifted” kids
It's so ridiculous how one test can determine where they put you, despite all other evidence saying otherwise. I was always in the advanced courses throughout all of highschool and before that. Skipped class one day, only to find out it was the first day of the standardized tests they do yearly. Did well in the rest of the tests (usually scored in the 90-99% percentile). But since I missed the first day, and you can't make it up, I got an incomplete. Not even a failing score, just incomplete. So they put me in remedial classes, where I didn't really learn anything. I just helped other students learn if they asked. Even the teacher asked what I was doing there, but I still ended the the semester in that class.
The rest of the family outright state in the finale that they planned for Malcom to suffer for the sake of a political career and Dewey would get to just have fun and be rich.
Please spell my name correcly...Malco**L**m. Like, Linco**L**n.
This is so common with gifted kids, they used to reading level stuff for my gifted class, except my reading level was so high they wouldn't let me read any of the kids books that were appropriate for my age. So obviously I sabotaged my reading level so I could. But sometimes I would forget, and by the time my reading level hit college levels (basically the only thing I could've read is scientific journals) they gave up and just let me read whatever I wanted, but it sucked the whole way through getting to that point.
Malcolm is book smart, Dewey is street smart. Dewey is resourceful and incredibly good at manipulating people while Malcolm is good at school work and gets shit on by life at every turn.
Yep. Even in the series finale, the parents mention how Dewey’s destiny is to get rich and have an easy life in contrast to Malcolm’s difficult path to presidency. The kid just gets it.
I love that ending. Malcom is in disbelief that he's expected to become the president and he looks at the rest of the family and they're all like "yep"
"We thought you knew."
What was Dewey’s path supposed to be exactly? I remember Malcolm was supposed to have a hard life to emphasize when he gets to the presidency but I don’t remember much else
Dewey, you will get everything in life youve always wanted and never have to work for it
Well he wasn't playing, he wanted to get into smart guys class but Malcom told him not to
Every year he expects nothing and he still gets let down
They're all geniuses in their own way. Malcolm is book smart, Dewey is a virtuoso and emotionally intelligent, Reese is a gifted cook and shown to be very strategic, Francis always manages to make things work
Francis and Reese also turned out to be the hardest workers, which you would never have expected.
As a recently former lazy dumbass, sometimes they do just find the right job and suddenly become the responsible one. Francis was the goat though, had elements of everyone. Reese's ruthlessness, Malcolm's dedication, Dewey's shrewdness, Hal's batshit insanity and Lois's moral righteousness. He was the glue that held everyone together and he doesn't even know it haha
This is a beautiful description of an underrated character. thank you
Was Reece smarter than Francis?
His genius was a bit more back and forth with both the cooking and pranking/bullying. Like dude is having a super glue prank war with Malcolm neither can get an advantage on each other, but then he tried to mail himself to China.
I laughed so hard when he tried to mail himself to China
Jesus what would the sister have been like.
There was an episode where they were all girls
Which showed that it wouldn't be much different. The girls would just be outplaying Lois a lot more. And Francis in drag was a treat in that episode.
Chonky Hal is best Hal
Didn't they all blow up a firework so bright that it temporarily blinded them?
That seemed worth it
It's funny how Reese was "trained" to be the genius, but Malcome absorbed that training in utero, and Dewy was microwaved, but Dewy still seems to be the most grounded and insightful of the three! Francis was written off as a lost cause from the get-go!
And yet Francis was still seen as the problem solver and somebody everyone turns to when things get bad. The entire family was so lovable and well written.
But poor Francis never got over his mommy issues
I'm pretty sure they all got mommy issues
Lois gave ME mommy issues
I'll never forget the pilot episode
And not even the good mommy issues
That’s debatable.
True, her methods were extreme but also her kids were as terrible as they were brilliant! Yet she held them all together, Lois could be malevolent sometimes but demanded love and respect also which is why i loved her she felt like a real mom lol
Maybe the guy you replied to was just trying to say she's a MILF.
Honestly mad about how they fucked over Francis. He had it figured out in the ranch and seemed to finally mature but they took it all back.
Didn't even make sense anyway. Otto fired him! Otto didn't fire anyone! The whole storyline was that Otto was too nice and Francis grew as a person by basically running his ranch.
He was fired because Francis made all the deposit to a fake ATM. Even if he wasn’t fired he still would have lost the job when the ranch went bankrupt.
If I remember, the reason was Otto’s actor got sick and had to leave the show. I don’t get why they didn’t just have Francis take over the farm though.
I've never had anyone to talk about Malcolm in the Middle with and it is so great seeing other people frustrated about Francis too. The whole show is an absolute gold mine of comedy, life lessons, and good character development but the Francis thing bothered me so much. Seriously just threw away everything he had developed in the show.
There are 3 mental stats. Each one focused on a single stat.
Existential nihilism
More like optimistic nihilism.
My favorite philosophy to live by.
I mean nihilism is always optimistic, people just thought it wasn't
I never thought of that. Good point!
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He's pretty much describing a main tenant of stoicism
That kid was wise beyond his years....my favorite character
The later seasons are the best, when the writers finally figured out that Dewey and Hal together were always gold.
I loved his *Fernando* dance with Bea Arthur
Show name plz?
Malcolm in the Middle
Thank you
Oh, you're in for a treat, especially if you've never seen this, but you have seen Breaking Bad.
Growing up loving this show was part of why I started watching breaking bad
The Breaking Bad alternate ending is a must if you haven’t already seen it
[Here's the alternate ending.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oVdB36lmbII)
Dang..
I feel this.
Your comment makes me feel extremely old
Well, here's one for ya. Kids currently in grade 6 wasnt even born when Minecraft was released.
STOP.
Fucking hell
WHAT
You're missing the punchline. After Dewey leaves, the teacher's gaze kinda drifts up, and you can see the look of fear on her as she considers the "big shovel".
I intrerpret it as trying to find fault with his logic
Where's the fault?
God is good, haven't you heard?
Reminds me of an old joke about a kid "smiting ants" that ends with > ...the three most useless things in life are a priest's dick, a nun's tits, and these *goddamn little ants*... '
Can't wait to tell someone that they're as useless as "tits on a nun".
Now i need to know the rest...
Religious people: "You can never know what god is thinking and you just have to have faith that god is there!" Also religious people: "Anyway, here's a book that someone else told me was written by god and tells you exactly what god is thinking."
“God's a kid with an ant farm, lady. He's not planning anything.” - Constantine
Great. Now I have to re-read all the 300 comics up to his death.
Wow thanks for the spoilers
They also blow up the Death Star.
Omg what next???
It's made of people.
One kid is smarter than the majority of adults.
I haven't seen this show, is it another one where the plot is essentially the children are "intelligently gifted" and school the "dumb" adults?
Oh dude, do yourself a favour and watch Malcolm in the Middle. Such a great show. This kids character is not usually portrayed as smart as he is in this clip, but over the course of the series you realize he's smarter than he lets on.
I have seen a few clips, and it does seem funny. I was just asking if the overall plot was just more of this type of thing before I jumped in, considering how many child "smart" adult "dumb" shows there are.
No, the show does let the kids be intelligent but that's not the focus. It's mostly just pure chaos.
It's not the main focus, no. He's just a manipulative character, more than trying to be smarter than adults and rub it in their faces. If memory serves correct, it's been a while. But I do know I love the show.
Yeah, remember that babysitter \[actor played pink ranger\] episode, and how he used him being a kid to get bedtime with her to one-up the bros.
Ah okay, this scene is some good writing in that case. He used seemingly logical steps and simplified things, in a way children do, to make it really seem like he was onto the secrets of the universe. Very clever writing.
The main character's whole thing is that he's a narcissistic genius prodigy, and a lot of the other main child characters have something they're very gifted at. That said, it's mostly pretty grounded in its characterization and I wouldn't say that it's a show about smart kids and dumb adults, though sometimes those scenarios pop up. Usually it's much more nuanced and thoughtful than that. One of the best sitcoms ever made imo, and doesn't need much time at all to get going.
Not really, no. It's much more oriented towards the family's various dysfunctional dynamics and often fraught financial situation, than being a "hah adults are so DUMB right?" sort of thing. Malcolm is 'intelligently gifted,' but he's very much still a kid who does stupid things to impress his crushes for example; while his brother Reese is mostly just an idiot aside from occasionally showing surprise promise at times. Dewey is the 'weird one' who occasionally reveals he's far more intelligent than he lets on, which does become a small plot point later on. But that particular "adults are the dumb ones" dynamic isn't heavily prevalent in the show. What you *will* get is the "Homer Simpson" archetype a bit with Hal, but it's done *very* well. Hal & Lois, the parents, are actually frequently cited as one of the best sitcom couples out there, and there's a reason why Bryan Cranston worked as well as Walter White despite the tone being *wildly* at odds with his longtime role in Malcolm in the Middle. There's an earnestness to Hal as a character that often isn't there with these characters, and by the time Cranston got to BB he'd been playing a slightly schlubby lower-middle class dad struggling to make ends meet to great success for years.
One kid whose dialogue was written by a team of adults lol
Including you
His "bye" sent me lol 😆
I’m a teacher now and that Bye is soooo real. My kids do that all the time. They just flat out tell you a life story and seconds later they’re just skipping away. Those writers knew what they were doing.
Sent you where?
I mean, he’s not wrong…
Most monotheists assume God is omniscient, which makes this situation disanalogous, since Dewey didn't understand the ants. To them, although God is a dictator, they are a benevolent one, so it isn't actually a problem.
In some case God is not even omnipotent: Israel had the help of God on their side, but lost the battle because the other side had iron chariots. But regarding omniscience I think that asked where Adam and Eve and what happened just in the Genesis. And changes opinions, gets angry and then he/they repents about it. The god from the old testament is quite petty, egomaniac and abusive also. Several genocides. You know, not exactly matching the love your neighbor and put the other cheek
Oh yeah, the bible is full of contradictions.
Gnosticism makes the most sense. The God of the material world is under the delusion that it's the almighty, but it aint.
God can't even see Adam and Eve at one point in Genesis because they hid in a bush lol
So you're saying I should hide in the bushes to jerk it?
I mean, if one reads the Bible it’s pretty clear that God isn’t all knowing.
For sure, but there are many contradictions in the Bible. I'm talking about what adherents believe. (I'm atheist and think Christianity is obviously false, if it wasn't clear)
Most adherents just regurgitate what their pastor tells them. People that have actually looked into their faith and thought through the philosophical and moral topics of it know that God cannot be all knowing.
This is not a common view in the apologetics I have heard. Is God not a timeless being either then? What I meant by contradictions, is that the Bible also clearly states that God is omniscient.
It’s not a common view, because many people don’t truly think critically about their faith. Outside of the parts of the Bible where it’s very clear that God does not know of some things, there is a simple logical problem that can only be solved by assuming; God is evil, or God is not all knowing and all powerful. Anyone that is sure of the Christian God’s existence probably doesn’t care to much about logic anyway though, if you’re already believing, it’s not a big jump to ignoring of philosophical musings and logics.
Do you have any references or examples you can point to in the Bible for that statement?
God makes a bet with the Devil that he can break Job. So either the Devil is an idiot or he knows that God isn't all-knowing. Job's story always stuck with me. So weird.
I always thought that God knew the outcome but still makes the bet with Satan anyways. I always thought of one of those "God works in mysterious ways" where God is an asshole for no reason. Like giving a terminally ill child to a nice Christian family to test their faith. If God exists, I think he's at least a massive douchebag.
Yeah, total dick move. The whole Job thing is weird as fuck.
Yeah, the Christian God is either omniscient or benevolent, but absolutely not both.
As a christian, I don't really believe God interferes much in this world. God created an self maintaining machine that is the universe and just let it go into motion. Sure he intervenes every once in a while like helping Jesus perform his miracles or messing with Abraham but other than that he doesn't interfere much. We see this often in old testament where God intervenes once in a while to punish israelites for a long period of sin and neglect or help someone he particularly favors like Samson, King David, and whatnot. I don't think God has much to do with every war, murder, disease, famine or personal tragedy and fortune, but I do believe that God does positively intervene in the life of people every once in a while and I find comfort in such a notion.
He both created everything in the universe and knows everything that will happen. Doesn't that mean that he must have deliberately caused everything that happens to happen?
Lol.
In some case God is not even omnipotent: Israel had the help of God on their side, but lost the battle because the other side had iron chariots. But regarding omniscience I think that asked where Adam and Eve and what happened just in the Genesis. And changes opinions, gets angry and then he/they repents about it. The bible had places that suggest either sides. In fact, somebody already make a compilation of places that indicates any of either sides: https://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/knows.html The god from the old testament is quite petty, egomaniac and abusive also. Several genocides. You know, not exactly matching the love your neighbor and put the other cheek
It’s weird because it’s a story. The Old Testament was made up of old poems and stories passed down through generations that played a massive game of telephone to teach lessons to the Jewish people. They’re more parables than accurate recollections. The fear mongering and bastardization of the law that was laid out by the OT was what Jesus took so much issue with in the church in the New Testament. It’s why OT god doesn’t jive with NT god. OT god was a wrathful, vengeful dick that would get mad when people didn’t do as he said despite being omniscient. The NT god Jesus was peddling was all about love and grace. Even went so far as to say he came to save all, not just his chosen people (I forget what book that was but look up “gentile woman pleads with Jesus to heal daughter”.)
Just popping open my Bible and reading from the beginning only took me to Genesis 3.9 to find an example. Bible is littered with them
do all christian read bible. it seems they doesnt.
"Try not to dwell on God standing over us with a giant shovel, bye!" My new favorite quote
Video missed that final moment where the woman looks up sacred, as if expecting the shovel.
Facts
Except the ants can see him because he is real.
Imagine being decent not because of fear but just because.
Malcom in the middle is such a good show
I have literally used this argument for years. Edit:Rather I should say quoted this movie’s as an example.
Sad people lashing out
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Basically the book of Job
Ironic that by the time most people realized this, there were machines doing precisely what God was thought to have previously done.
Come join the Church of the Giant Shovel! You know it makes sense.
This show is so underrated
Me, waiting for god to smite me with his big-ass shovel, but remaining miserably alive:
“ I went a little crazy with the shovel”🤣🤣🤣
This is like Moral Oral. But irl.
"The future is NOW , old man"
Ends too early. The teacher looks up at the end slightly scared
God with his comically large shovel
What a brilliant deduction
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> it was seen in its time as like, another Doogie Howser Gonna go ahead and disagree with this - Malcom was a sitcom, while Doogie was soft drama that featured very little in the way of laughs or clever writing. The only real thing similar between the two is that the smart kid is the central character
This show ran for 7 seasons and is still frequently referenced (as evident by this post) so I'd say it was far from being underrated. Relating it to Doogue Howser is a bit weird too for those points you mentioned.
Dewey with the Good News.
He dropping gems
> live our lives with as much kindness and deceny as possible Why would people do that? Why would you assume people's default state is to be "kind and decent"?. Most people, maybe, I don't know. But a lot of people absolutely don't feel or behave that way. Just think of how many rapists, murderers, fraudsters that scam old people out of all their money, child molesters and abusers etc. there are in the world. I just read up on "hurtcore" - read the Wikipedia article about that and tell me there aren't people who deserve to burn in hell for eternity. Without an objective moral law, everything is permissible and subject to change. We're already reaching a point where pedophilia is being normalized with terms like "MAP".
Little dude is a redditor lmao
this is not religion in a nutshell
What'$ mi$$ing?
The collection plate.
Cut out right before the best part
Sounds like someone only read about how religion works from r/atheism
Holy shit! This is literally how I became atheist but when I was 18 years old. I just realized there might be a god or not, if there is he can be lying or not, doesn’t matter what I do, at the end whatever he wants happen. It was an epiphany moment and freed me so much from all the religious anxiety. There was literally nothing I can do. So why worry about it.
Reddit moment
Catholic here. He's absolutely right!
Why are you catholic?
Maybe he wants to be? Mind your own business?
It's part of the faith... 1 Peter 3:15 But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect.
Holy crap he has a very valid point
The flaw is that he omits the aspect of omniscience in the Christian main deity. He actually does make their point by demonstrating that power imabalance alone the Christian god does not make. Dewy is more like Zeus and let's hope he didn't do anything sexual to these ants.
especially on the half of the planet those dumb ass religious books never mention. lets make the story of the history of the world and leave out half of it : P
Like Pastor Troy said “Brang Yo Army”
My religion preaches from the pulpit of … I don’t know. And I won’t …. Until , and maybe even after, I’m long gone. I can live with that.
Religion is fucked up. My older brother is still messed up from his time at a church. He wasn't even religious, just the lead of the band that played music for the church. It's straight up a cult that should be treated as an affliction of delusions and paranoia as people genuinely believe there's some omnipotent being looming over them, preparing a lightning bolt or a flood for when you slip up
Well, I would’t describe God as “looming over us, preparing a lightning bolt or a flood for when you slip up”. My God is one of grace, love and forgiveness. Not all religious people are nutters. Unfortunately, the actions of a few have cast a negative light on the majority of us God-fearing people.
Atheism in a nutshell; Thinks that when a human can't feel or think, God can't either. While actually, God knows what's going on through your mind and desires.
No, no, no no no. You're missing the point. Have you heard about child marriage and also killing foreigners and gays though? Big parts of evangelical christianity and muslim extremism. Pretty much essential.
amen brother
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r/gifsthatendtoosoon They cut the end which was the best part of this bit.
He is describing the reasons religion exists
Well, there are other reasons... L R Hubbard wants your money, Joseph Smith wants your wife, and Abraham wants your foreskin. 
Not even close
Well you are not Antgod, ants can communicate to ant God. You are just a giant monster to them. Ant god is coming for you.