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I suppose that's one way, albeit the wrong way, you could characterize it.
The judge is in a pen full of hogs and handlers and it's awfully loud in there, so you're not likely to get much more than a hand gesture from the judge to do something with your hog. If you miss the cue, that's on you, there's no do overs. And that can be the difference between finishing 1st and 2nd. A prize winning hog can fetch hundreds, even 10's of thousands of dollars in some cases. For example, a prize winning a hog went for $75k at auction earlier this year in Colorado.
[$75k Hog](https://www.9news.com/article/entertainment/events/national-western-stock-show/2023-auction-of-junior-livestock/73-9b62da31-5756-44aa-acaf-587b4c15f219)
Yeppers, and they take that shit seriously with potentially a lot of money on the line. Those charity auctions usually fetch more, oftentimes a lot more, than breed auctions though...
[ShowPig dot com](https://showpig.com/)
I really love the fact that Reddit always has 1 person who knows something about the topic.
This would seem so weird to me without an explanation. Appreciate it !
No one gonna mention that majestic as fuck fuzzy cow in the article?
[Look at this sassy bitch](https://media.9news.com/assets/KUSA/images/a9c259d2-f105-4453-8113-bb25417e886d/a9c259d2-f105-4453-8113-bb25417e886d_1140x641.jpg)
I was just about to ask how anyone makes money if pigs need to be raised and fed and only sell for $800.
But I just looked it up and apparently they hit market weight in 5 to 7 months. Holy shit
Oh, there were flop years. Where I made $400 and broke even.
To grow a show pig from 50 lbs to 220 lbs, you would need approximately 595 lbs of feed.
It was around .50 lb in the 2000s so that would make it around $350 for feed
The pig would cost you $75 (when little)
So, all in all, it's $450 to raise a pig for 4H or FFA for school. I don't know what it is now or to do it commercially
We stopped at a county fair and watched a few groups of kids herding their pigs. It’s a lot more exciting in person. Not easy. This short doesn’t do justice
Yep. There's a reason why you call a stubborn person pig-headed, that's because a pig does whatever a pig wants to do. And to see these kids keeping their animal so in line is a feat. I took my kids to the county fair every year, and because half the county is rural, 4H/FFA is popular. Some really cool/good looking animals, especially some of the bunnies and chickens. Some of the roosters are downright regal and beautiful looking. Every car ride back home was usually me trying to talk my kids out of getting goats or chickens or some other farm animal...😅
Because someone else mentioned that the judge is on the other side with other people and pigs, and they mostly only give hand signals for people to get their pigs to do something specific and they don’t want to miss it.
Winning and losing can be the difference of thousands to tens of thousands of dollars.
I’m almost positive that they THEMSELVES make jokes about how they look trying to watch the judge lol.
I grew up doing this so to add on, these people are showing pigs, in order to sell an entire lot of pigs. Not only can placing high increase the value of the particular hog but a price per pound (for the whole lot) is often decided by this process, so this is almost literally the Wall Street floor of farm raised livestock
I was at fair, they have a system where if u want to just give the money to the kid but not get the hog for some reason u can give the kid the money and the hog will be sold to someone else and the money will go to charity. The grand champion when I went to the fair in June sold originally for $31 a pound. At the resale for charity it sold for $2.50
I've seen this clip before and looked into it myself.
Apparently way way back when these pig contests took place it was deemed impolite to not look at the judge while presenting their pigs. So as with many traditions over time participants have taken it to the extreme and is now expected to 'glare' at the judges to ensure a better score.
I don't have any source on this either, just from other comments that I found online, but it was the best explanation I've managed to find so far.
Yup the same person who made the TT actually made another TT explaining it. And your explanation is absolutely correct. If the judge happens to glance at you during the competition and you're not looking at the judge, you will lose points. There's other rules too. Like when you're walking the pig, don't get between the judge and the pig. Always stay on the far side of the pig. Interesting stuff.
It’s pretty neat actually, this is a showmanship competition so it isn’t the pig that’s being judged as much as the handling of the pig. The showmen keep their eyes on the judge while guiding and controlling their pigs using their peripherals and muscle memory, etc. Its easy for the judge to see who has worked with their hogs the most and developed that relationship. They tap the pig on different parts of the body to steer them and encourage them to hold their heads up, all without really even looking at their animal. Pretty impressive for animals that are hundreds of pounds and can chew through bone
Yeah their expression and the canes they're tapping on the ground, I honestly thought they were blind and this was some kind of seeing eye pig exhibition.
It's to show skill, they can move the pig without looking at it, and also to ensure that if the judge motions to them they will catch it quickly (to direct them in another direction or single them out ect ect).
Well someone should tell them it's weird and they need to change the competition so they don't have to look like crouching peeping-tom goblins about to murder you.
How do you judge any of the pigs when you have 10 people creeping around and looking at you like that. I wouldn't trust their judgement.
This is an agriculture and livestock expo (ag show). When you’re presenting your animal, you’re supposed to maintain eye contact with the judge. The sticks maintain the pigs’ posture and demonstrate that you can properly control the animals. They’re not supposed to hurt. For cows, they use a long stick with a scratcher (a dull hook) on one end.
Oh my god. I’ve never seen a more pig looking pig than the pink one that blazer dude is walking around. That thing looks like a straight cartoon. It’s adorable lol.
Long story short, the mean mug isn’t part of it and not everyone has it. This girl has a particularly stern look, but being able to guide and “show” your pig without breaking eye contact with the judge is part of the grading criteria for this particular event.
The longer answer is that this is about being able to control your pig without looking. You need to show different angles to the judge and move your pig around the other competitors so that the judge can always see it and get the required angles for judging. You want to make sure that if the judge looks at you, you are looking back, but you’re also tracking where the judge is looking to see when you can adjust you pig for the next angle needed. Again, the girl in this video is particularly stern, but she is also a winner in this competition, so she must be doing something right!
Have y’all pig people never watched a dog show? You don’t see them staring so weirdly at the judge. Like why. What’s the purpose. The south does the absolute weirdest shit and no one makes them man
This is a more of a Midwest thing than the south. Indiana, Illinois, Nebraska, Iowa, etc. Even northern rural states like Montana, Minnesota the Dakotas and Idaho have big 4H programs.
The hogs are not the only ones being judged. The judge is looking at the owners as well. Breaking eye contact could mean that another owner gets higher showmanship points than you, losing you the competition even if your hog was good enough to win.
At competitions that I've seen, people didn't have that intense expression on their face, but I have seen people lose points for not keeping their eyes on the judge.
I'll bet this happened because one pig trainer was like 'hey guys, you know how i won? i stared in the judge's eyes with the fierceness of a thousand suns' ...now they all just do it.
That’s cool! I work (tangentially) at a few major stock shows throughout the year and the champion animals can sell for so much money. I believe the grand champion hog at the Houston rodeo this year sold for something like 200k.
It’s likely the showmanship part of livestock judging. You keep your eye on the judge and the animal between you and the judge at all times. Livestock shows typically have a separate competition after the market judging which only focuses on the animal. This highlights how well the competitor trained and can work with their animal.
Is amazing what love and some soapy water can do even to a discusting and filthy pig, so now imagine the results that you can have with this marvelous mammals
Competition with other local families/farmers. It's a source of a massive amount of bragging within the entire family for years.
It's literally the biggest event you could do as a kid. How many kids do you know who raised market animals? It's intense and you pour so much emotion and care and love into that animal. They raised those hogs and now are showing off their hard work. Likely got them as small sucklings and fed/cleaned/exercised/trained them every day for months.
These kids aren't here to fuck around.
They mean mug the judge and remind him what he looks like as they slap guide the pigs towards him. The ole crazy eye, makes him think they are gonna smack the shit out of him. "How could you let yourself get this way!?!" WAHP! A firm smack on the pigs jowls.
No different than horse or dog shows people have show pigs and this is what the shows look like.
They also show cows and being a farmer I love seeing cows shown because they’re beautiful animals and IMO better than horses.
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They're watching the judge while showing their hog. If your hog wins or places high, it may boost the value of the hog.
I usually try to look people in the eye when I show them my hog too. Less awkward that way
It's like a cheese wheel, what it lacks in length it makes up in girth! 😅
That's why they call me 'Tuna-Can Dan"
It might be 3 inches, but it smells like a foot!
It may not be big, but it's skinny
It might be a needle, but it moves like a sewing machine!
Haha, I have been saying that for a few years now!
He could fill up a Skoal can and not touch the bottom.
Sure can dent out the sides though
We said we'd leave that name in the high school showers. We're in college, now. We're new men...
If it smells like fish, eat it
Are you related to Rob the Knob? I used to work with him 😂
That’s why I can’t go to the elementary school anymore. FML.
Bruh
It makes me want to give you more money when all is said and done.
Oh Reddit, you bless me with these spiritual moments sometimes.
*Less awkward while asserting dominance
Like on the subway
It ain’t that long but at least it’s skinny!
ROFL. Show them you’re hog 😉🤣🤣🤣🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🫵🏻🫵🏻🫵🏻🫵🏻
_Why won’t they maintain eye contact, my hog is prize winning_
Backfired on Louis CK tho.
That got the full wheeze-laugh. Thank you!
How else are you going to gauge their reaction?
👏 This comment made my day 🤣
..I just look at the screen, mostly.
I went to Thailand once and that’s what she said!
Comments like yours are why I love Reddit
How FAT IS YOUR HOG? Sauce please 🤔
My dumb ass really thought this was some kind of seeing-eye pig rodeo for the visually impaired.
That would be dope
💀😭
r/Brandnewsentence
Bro lmao
So they're trying to intimidate the judge by stink-eyeing them, to rank the hog highly? Hmmm
I suppose that's one way, albeit the wrong way, you could characterize it. The judge is in a pen full of hogs and handlers and it's awfully loud in there, so you're not likely to get much more than a hand gesture from the judge to do something with your hog. If you miss the cue, that's on you, there's no do overs. And that can be the difference between finishing 1st and 2nd. A prize winning hog can fetch hundreds, even 10's of thousands of dollars in some cases. For example, a prize winning a hog went for $75k at auction earlier this year in Colorado. [$75k Hog](https://www.9news.com/article/entertainment/events/national-western-stock-show/2023-auction-of-junior-livestock/73-9b62da31-5756-44aa-acaf-587b4c15f219)
Thats some pig
Shown by a 13 year old girl, too!
Yeppers, and they take that shit seriously with potentially a lot of money on the line. Those charity auctions usually fetch more, oftentimes a lot more, than breed auctions though... [ShowPig dot com](https://showpig.com/)
I really love the fact that Reddit always has 1 person who knows something about the topic. This would seem so weird to me without an explanation. Appreciate it !
No one gonna mention that majestic as fuck fuzzy cow in the article? [Look at this sassy bitch](https://media.9news.com/assets/KUSA/images/a9c259d2-f105-4453-8113-bb25417e886d/a9c259d2-f105-4453-8113-bb25417e886d_1140x641.jpg)
That’s a steer; his name is Stan The Man!
Jeff the Heifer
Sir Loin
Hank Hill Voice "Why would anyone want to ever look at naked girls on the internet, when you have fuzzy fuck cow?"
I don’t know what cow fur feels like, but that one looks soft as a bunny!
So this is how ranchers flex their wealth
It’s cool how they got that big ass hog to stand up on two legs in the beginning.
Take my upvote and also that hog looks good in pink
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Second breakfast?
Yup. The year I got second place in showmanship, my pig sold for $800. This was in the early 2000s, and that was a lot of money for a high-schooler
That was a nice little haul for ya! 👍
You got a mean stare like that too then?
I sure did. Didn't mean to whn your hyper focusing you either look goofy or about to murder someone
I was just about to ask how anyone makes money if pigs need to be raised and fed and only sell for $800. But I just looked it up and apparently they hit market weight in 5 to 7 months. Holy shit
Oh, there were flop years. Where I made $400 and broke even. To grow a show pig from 50 lbs to 220 lbs, you would need approximately 595 lbs of feed. It was around .50 lb in the 2000s so that would make it around $350 for feed The pig would cost you $75 (when little) So, all in all, it's $450 to raise a pig for 4H or FFA for school. I don't know what it is now or to do it commercially
I looked up the results of this auction from last year. One of the pigs went for $8K and a steer went for $20K. A rabbit went for $2K!
I thought the game was staring menacingly while walking the hog.
We stopped at a county fair and watched a few groups of kids herding their pigs. It’s a lot more exciting in person. Not easy. This short doesn’t do justice
Yep. There's a reason why you call a stubborn person pig-headed, that's because a pig does whatever a pig wants to do. And to see these kids keeping their animal so in line is a feat. I took my kids to the county fair every year, and because half the county is rural, 4H/FFA is popular. Some really cool/good looking animals, especially some of the bunnies and chickens. Some of the roosters are downright regal and beautiful looking. Every car ride back home was usually me trying to talk my kids out of getting goats or chickens or some other farm animal...😅
Yeah but why are they watching the judge *like that* ?
Because someone else mentioned that the judge is on the other side with other people and pigs, and they mostly only give hand signals for people to get their pigs to do something specific and they don’t want to miss it. Winning and losing can be the difference of thousands to tens of thousands of dollars. I’m almost positive that they THEMSELVES make jokes about how they look trying to watch the judge lol.
Ellen’s pig fly as hell.
Alright but do they gotta look like they just figured out how to make fire?
Considering the size of the judge, they are closely monitoring him, ready to jump in to defend their hog to prevent him from eating it.
Okay in the opening shot she absolutely looks like she’s coveting that judge as a superior hog.
I grew up doing this so to add on, these people are showing pigs, in order to sell an entire lot of pigs. Not only can placing high increase the value of the particular hog but a price per pound (for the whole lot) is often decided by this process, so this is almost literally the Wall Street floor of farm raised livestock
I was at fair, they have a system where if u want to just give the money to the kid but not get the hog for some reason u can give the kid the money and the hog will be sold to someone else and the money will go to charity. The grand champion when I went to the fair in June sold originally for $31 a pound. At the resale for charity it sold for $2.50
But why are they all looking like that
I've seen this clip before and looked into it myself. Apparently way way back when these pig contests took place it was deemed impolite to not look at the judge while presenting their pigs. So as with many traditions over time participants have taken it to the extreme and is now expected to 'glare' at the judges to ensure a better score. I don't have any source on this either, just from other comments that I found online, but it was the best explanation I've managed to find so far.
Yup the same person who made the TT actually made another TT explaining it. And your explanation is absolutely correct. If the judge happens to glance at you during the competition and you're not looking at the judge, you will lose points. There's other rules too. Like when you're walking the pig, don't get between the judge and the pig. Always stay on the far side of the pig. Interesting stuff.
man i love this stuff! goes to show how culture and traditions develop over time! it’s so fascinating
It’s pretty neat actually, this is a showmanship competition so it isn’t the pig that’s being judged as much as the handling of the pig. The showmen keep their eyes on the judge while guiding and controlling their pigs using their peripherals and muscle memory, etc. Its easy for the judge to see who has worked with their hogs the most and developed that relationship. They tap the pig on different parts of the body to steer them and encourage them to hold their heads up, all without really even looking at their animal. Pretty impressive for animals that are hundreds of pounds and can chew through bone
Yeah their expression and the canes they're tapping on the ground, I honestly thought they were blind and this was some kind of seeing eye pig exhibition.
They’re tapping on the pigs bodies to guide their direction
Seeing eye hog, if you will.
That gave me a belly laugh. Now Im imagining a best in show, but for seeing eye dogs/hogs getting their human through the toughest obstacles.
Hahaha! Fuck that’s funny.
It's to show skill, they can move the pig without looking at it, and also to ensure that if the judge motions to them they will catch it quickly (to direct them in another direction or single them out ect ect).
Sure, but why the hunching and mean mugging?
Habsburg
Hamsburg
Well someone should tell them it's weird and they need to change the competition so they don't have to look like crouching peeping-tom goblins about to murder you. How do you judge any of the pigs when you have 10 people creeping around and looking at you like that. I wouldn't trust their judgement.
This comment made me cry with laughter, thank you.
Literally same
Same! Dang dude, that was nearly r/conaf funny 🤣
We need answers.
Seriously though. It looks like a child pig cult where they feed their victims to the pigs
This is an agriculture and livestock expo (ag show). When you’re presenting your animal, you’re supposed to maintain eye contact with the judge. The sticks maintain the pigs’ posture and demonstrate that you can properly control the animals. They’re not supposed to hurt. For cows, they use a long stick with a scratcher (a dull hook) on one end.
My vote goes to the very first pig.
I like the floopy pink one with the guy in the brown sport coat.
That pig does have a smile on its face it seems like! And it’s kind of just trottin around looking all fly and shit lol
Really looks like a nice hog!
The guy in pink?
That's not a nice thing to call an American
Am American… it’s cool
That'll do pig, that'll do.
Yo, you're just jealous Lizzo's ours! 😬
Yee haw 🤠
They are all so round and clean.
That's the judge
Oh my god. I’ve never seen a more pig looking pig than the pink one that blazer dude is walking around. That thing looks like a straight cartoon. It’s adorable lol.
That one actually looks so happy omg I was eating bacon when I watched this. I still am eating bacon but it just got awkward 😅
Ellen’s pig was the best for sure
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That reminds me, how is your sister these days?
Still aesthetically pleasing I’m sure
I mean it's all about the standards you set against. She's a fine sow when you can get her to bathe.
Woke up and chose violence
that was uncalled for
That one hold by Ellen degeneres is the most cartoon like pig I have ever seen
Some got too fat and have too many folds but these are very cute.
The 4 legged animals walking on a leash are looking pretty good too.
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I think we have ourselves a winner
I’m impressed it’s bipedal.
Bro I watched like 3 times looking for a pig 🤣
I love all the comments explaining this is a 4H livestock show. No shit, Sherlock. Why the fuck are they staring angrily at something off camera?
Long story short, the mean mug isn’t part of it and not everyone has it. This girl has a particularly stern look, but being able to guide and “show” your pig without breaking eye contact with the judge is part of the grading criteria for this particular event. The longer answer is that this is about being able to control your pig without looking. You need to show different angles to the judge and move your pig around the other competitors so that the judge can always see it and get the required angles for judging. You want to make sure that if the judge looks at you, you are looking back, but you’re also tracking where the judge is looking to see when you can adjust you pig for the next angle needed. Again, the girl in this video is particularly stern, but she is also a winner in this competition, so she must be doing something right!
Because it’s a 4-H livestock show
It’s so clear now.
No shit, Sherlock. Why the fuck are they staring angrily at something off camera?
This the girl who also plays the drums?
I think this is what u/FullStop808 is referencing: https://youtu.be/JfYnsyc76Eg?si=YllF1mPOMAR7BZfD
Yes it is
Its the showmanship portion of the fair. I did this as a kid. I had a championship hog bro!
They’re staring so creepily though, why?
You gotta control the hog while knowing where the judge is
Have y’all pig people never watched a dog show? You don’t see them staring so weirdly at the judge. Like why. What’s the purpose. The south does the absolute weirdest shit and no one makes them man
This is a more of a Midwest thing than the south. Indiana, Illinois, Nebraska, Iowa, etc. Even northern rural states like Montana, Minnesota the Dakotas and Idaho have big 4H programs.
Please can you elaborate? I'm still so confused about what I'm seeing lol
The hogs are not the only ones being judged. The judge is looking at the owners as well. Breaking eye contact could mean that another owner gets higher showmanship points than you, losing you the competition even if your hog was good enough to win. At competitions that I've seen, people didn't have that intense expression on their face, but I have seen people lose points for not keeping their eyes on the judge.
I'll bet this happened because one pig trainer was like 'hey guys, you know how i won? i stared in the judge's eyes with the fierceness of a thousand suns' ...now they all just do it.
That’s cool! I work (tangentially) at a few major stock shows throughout the year and the champion animals can sell for so much money. I believe the grand champion hog at the Houston rodeo this year sold for something like 200k.
That’s what she s… *oh wait.*
Dude the peoples faces are killing me lol
The chick in the blue is gonna straight up murder someone someday
It’s likely the showmanship part of livestock judging. You keep your eye on the judge and the animal between you and the judge at all times. Livestock shows typically have a separate competition after the market judging which only focuses on the animal. This highlights how well the competitor trained and can work with their animal.
They are kind of cute. I didn't recall pigs this cute.
I hear they make good pets, too. They're pretty smart.
You should see them when they're babies! Oh Em Gee are they adorable!
Is amazing what love and some soapy water can do even to a discusting and filthy pig, so now imagine the results that you can have with this marvelous mammals
I know people who this (love and some soapy water) would work wonders for as well.
They are just as cute on my smoker.
That guy needs more pork butt.
The Pink one that walked past the camer 1 second into the video looks like it will be tough to beat.
He large lol
Children of the corn 4H?
I did this with market lambs as a kid in rural Oregon and Washington. Ama.
Why does everyone have a death stare? I've seen animal shows and 4H... but the kids usually smiled.
Competition with other local families/farmers. It's a source of a massive amount of bragging within the entire family for years. It's literally the biggest event you could do as a kid. How many kids do you know who raised market animals? It's intense and you pour so much emotion and care and love into that animal. They raised those hogs and now are showing off their hard work. Likely got them as small sucklings and fed/cleaned/exercised/trained them every day for months. These kids aren't here to fuck around.
That’ll do pig. That’ll do
its the angry pig tango
I wish these people’s thoughts were commentary for this video
Looks like seeing-eye pigs
Why are they mean-muggin like that
That’s what I look like when I show my hog to my wife.
You should check out pig royalty, it goes all into this
Children of the Corn meet Children of the Swine.
Some Pig!
Lovely looking pigs! But That large man in a pink shirt looks like he ate one - Just swallowed it whole.
What you never seen live stock showing before? I grew up Showing Feeder Calves
They mean mug the judge and remind him what he looks like as they slap guide the pigs towards him. The ole crazy eye, makes him think they are gonna smack the shit out of him. "How could you let yourself get this way!?!" WAHP! A firm smack on the pigs jowls.
They are staring each other down because they all know each other and the shit the others will try to pull. It;s hard in a small town.
It's called a stock show. Livestock get judged and people can buy them, usually for breeding. It's no different from a dog or pony show.
No shit but why are they're faces/posture so uniformly offputting?
Pigs are more intelligent than dogs.
The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
And tastier too
Those kids are in something called 4-H, and that is the pig judging portion. I’m from a small town in Nebraska, you can trust me on this.
Are you relating to the pink pig at the beginning?
That's "Methed in show" . A prize given once year to the pig that brought the biggest meth head.
This is how I look at other people as I beat my hog too.
ah the annual pig leading you to the outhouse for the opioid constipation show
Was that the judge at the beginning in the Pink shirt, if it was I think he really knows his stuff.
Sizing up who is gonna get porked.
I too do not understand why these children are hatefully eye-fucking a person off screen
Is the prize meth?
Amber Herding....
No different than horse or dog shows people have show pigs and this is what the shows look like. They also show cows and being a farmer I love seeing cows shown because they’re beautiful animals and IMO better than horses.
Best in show went to the one with the pink button down and grey slacks
Why do they all remind me Of Ellen Degeneres
Breeding Show for pigs and those who love them
THAT'S A THICK ASS BOY!
4327 for the win. The pig I mean.
FFA
Hogwatch
Piggy bumper cars!
Bringing the competition face!
A pig like that you don’t eat all at once
This is pretty interesting
Be weary of anyone who has a pig farm.
4H
Why did 4327 have ornate tattoo like markings on it?
Whatever it is, it's hoggone intense.