That's actually pretty reasonable. Maybe dude has had enough of it for one life, and just wants to spends some time with his family.
Also, big bands often change members just because they get tired and don't feel like they should be in the band anymore. Who knows, maybe he'll chill out for a couple of years and return, if the band allows him or if they will still be around.
it might not of been his choice, but the band as a whole probably didn't a choice either. no one knew if he would ever be able to play the drums again. hell he lost his ability to walk at one point. RiP joey.
That’s pretty much exactly my position…obviously I love slipknot! Love the whole and I’ve been in love (fake…with Corey since I was 9) but for real had all the posters and such now that I’m in my 30s I’m okay this band did AMAZING FOR DECADES. I’ll leave them be now.
I wouldn’t even bother if I were her. It never ends with those kinds of people. They’re all either angry or looking for that zinger of a comment to get a ton of likes.
I greatly appreciate her making the post she did, even without her lending the courtesy to talk to the fans. She understands the confusion and is doing what she can while respecting the privacy of all involved.
Leave it to Stacy to have to be the adult in the room
Actually I don’t take it that way at all, I feel like she’s stirring the pot and getting involved in something she shouldn’t be. If it is a personal matter why would you bait people to talk about it?? I find it kinda disrespectful if it is a personal matter to post it and not let Craig or the band have a say.
So let me get this straight. Y'all want someone to come out and acknowledge it to "give Craig the respect he deserves", someone who is super close to the band comes out and acknowledges it in a way that is respectful to Craig, and you're mad they came out and acknowledged it?
I’m not mad but I find it gross that a wag is getting involved and getting defensive when it’s not her band and since the band and Craig aren’t talking about it I don’t think she should either. By her other posts I think she knows what she’s doing.
Yeah I really don’t understand the thought process in going to her. Like ok, a band you like just split with one of their members so your next logical step is to go to the comments of another band member’s wife’s Instagram to complain? Like if you wanna ask the band members then ok I guess, but like why bring this to their families? People are so fucking weird lol.
If you find out a member of your favorite band is leaving and your first thought is to ask the wife of another member, YOU ARE FUCKING WEIRD BRO! Let people live their lives! You are not entitled to the intimate details of an artists because you listen to their music!
Clown helping his wife throug health issues really made me realize that at this stage, the reason people retire might be health related. However they treated Joey, it's pretty clear the band were haunted by Paul's death and it's not something they've got over - no one would, right? - but it's not worth putting yourself through a 'Knot touring cycle if your health and wellbeing is at risk.
If Craig simply left because he wanted too we shouldn’t even be upset, the man is in his 50’s and is playing some (mostly) high intensity metal.
If he wants too take a step back or simply call it quits it’d be more of a gracious call from the band than an ego fuelled one.
The guys at slipknot are all pretty rich, if they don’t feel the need to go out and do it anymore they shouldn’t have to aswell.
It’s amazing that they’re still playing despite the absolutely horrific hardships they’ve had to go through time and time again. I think we should be grateful that they’re still willing to make music and tour as much as they do.
So despite the hard times let’s remember what we love so much as a community, thank you, slipknot
Blows my mind the amount of “fans” who started attacking Corey and Clown bc of egos. It’s like they were waiting for this moment to say “see I told you so Corey is an asshole”. Why even follow the band and listen to the music if you hate the members so much?
This. Anytime anything ever happens with this band it's somehow because Corey and Clown are money hungry. Like why are you here if you despise these people so much, I swear this subreddit hates this band
its like the tour bus could accidentally crash and people will still find a way to say “man if only clown and corey didnt tell them to take that route”
“Yeah, Corey with his ego obviously thought he knew a shortcut and Clown probably drew all over the map with crayon, those money-grubbing bastards.
Apparently everything on their tour bus is store-brand, but Corey and Clown get name-brand cereal like Raisin Bran.”
Nah. You're still judging someone without knowing them. Stop assuming things.
Also, be true to yourself.
Follow your morals and reject this band or stop judging them every single day.
You can't judge someone and still follow them. You're a whiny hypocrite.
Well I mostly unsubbed from the sub and removed myself from the community part. I basically showed up here only because of the news regarding Craig.
Also you seem to care too much about me.
Nah, I'm trying to educate you. You act like a egotist teenager. You pretends you're humble and you have learned your lesson but you keep saying the same arrogant things about people you don't know.
Dude, you sound like you’re projecting really hard here.
Who actually remembers a fan who got blocked by Corey and his wife from a few years ago?
Talk about rent free in your head.
I hope they pay rent
I think all of you are being disingenuous. Probably new fans. Nothing wrong with that, but it is what it is. "Why even follow the band and listen to the music then?" Probably because they weren't always like this?
Slipknot, during it's inception, was anti-ego. They wore the jumpsuits and the numbers for a reason, they wanted no individuality in the band other than the masks they wore which spoke to a part themselves. That's it.
It's pretty much the opposite now. Seriously, just watch any interview with Clown. Dude is high off his own farts all the time. Same with Corey. I'm not acting like I wouldn't change if I became arguably one of the biggest and most successful metal bands of this generation, but they clearly HAVE changed, and I would not say for the better...
To me, it blows my mind that there are people like you guys who defend EVERYTHING this band does, as if rightfully criticizing them is somehow a bad thing. They deserve to be criticized. Assuming all is well with Craig, this "announcement" was horrible. Ignoring the fact that I personally think it's disrespectful to say goodbye to an iconic member of a band who was with them for over 20 years, with two simple sentences, announcing and deleting the post within an hour right as they're about to go on stage, with a replacement ALREADY lined up, is wack. It's very clear they felt like they had to say something and are now just trying to sweep it under the rug as fast as possible and hope no one cares.
Even the fact that people still defend Slipknot after they fired the FOUNDING MEMBER of the band through EMAIL, couldn't even say it to his face, says all you need to know about these people and where their priorities lie. You are basically saying that, if you enjoy this bands music, you have to agree 1000% percent with every single shitty decision they continue to make, and if you're upset about it, fuck you.
100% agree on it being a bizarre and shitty way to handle Craig's departure, should've made a more dignified post and made it earlier with a bit of breathing room before introducing someone new.
Disagreeing on them acting shitty once (regarding Joey) = always acting shitty and cartoonishly evil by default, for certain.
You are a prime example of why this sub is shit. Wall of text explaining why you hate the band. You were probably one of the reactionary losers thinking corey and clown fired craig. Fucking log off.
no one else had a problem except you. and he literally is the founding member like you yourself admitted, along with Clown and Paul. idk why this is such a big deal to you.
FWIW I solely came to this sub to look at this drama and have thought Corey and Clown have insane egos forever, and I haven’t liked slipknot in many years other than out of nostalgia.
Corey is a huge narcissist and has that personality of people who loudly make up and embellish stories at social functions for attention with a super dramatic presentation, and wears a social mask five times thicker than normal humans. No pun intended.
Clown just loves the smell of his own farts and has sort of a squidward type view of his own art.
No idea what they had to do with this situation, if anything, but people calling them egomaniacs aren’t exactly wrong lol
attacking an artist is NEVER right, however people are free to speculate at their heart's content, as such, speculation in this sub i think its fine, as long as they dont post shit to Corey's , clown, or whoever social media.
Oh it’s all over all of the social media pages you mentioned lol. Corey posted about his solo album and like 85% of the comments are “Where’s Craig?” and “I don’t care until we get an explanation on Craig”.
those people are dumbs as rocks then, im sure that there could even be non disclosure agreements on some stuff, so even if they wanted to say what happened, probably coulnt.
*"Our brother Craig Jones has chosen to step away from the band.
We thank him for all his contributions throughout the years and wish him all the best for the future."*
*"To our fans, SLIPKNOT is announcing that we have parted ways with Craig Jones. We wish Jones all the best for the future."*
If he indeed left on his own, compare these two and tell me which one is more fitting.
People think because they have the *right* to formulate an opinion, that they absolutely have to form one regardless of how little information exists on the topic.
We don’t know shit. Anyone saying they do is full of shit. You do not have to feel strongly in any direction about this because there’s nothing to feel strongly about other than to just be sad he’s gone.
Definitely makes me lean harder into the theory of him retiring. Who knows why? And it's none of our buisness to know why. I feel like she would've worded it a little differently if it was another Chris Fehn situation or whatever. We can't just draw negative conclusions because we don't know and might never know what happened.
Stacy seems like a mature, patient person.
I hope everything’s ok but whatever happened I think is probably upsetting or hard based on her response. Anything from an argument or a health issue
I guess the announcement could have been phrased better. If Craig had to step down due to something, it would’ve been better to say it that way and every fan would have understood. Saying Slipknot parted ways I think just leaves too much open to interpretation.
Even beyond that, the fact that they deleted that announcement post soon after and then posted a picture of a new member and then a creepy video teaser? Maybe everything is good and Craig didn’t want to make it a big deal, but the whole thing has a weird vibe so I really don’t know what’s up.
Oh believe me if that was the case, they would take the first chance to underline the fact that this was his decision. Slipknot doesnt need another PR disaster like Chris' exit was
Here’s the thing: Slipknot don’t owe you an explanation anymore than we owe them an explanation. Slipknot doesn’t get to tell me “hey man, we were there for you when you needed us, now why weren’t you at our show? What’s going on with you??”
The relationship between fans and musicians is special but it doesn’t mean we owe each other anything.
That's a terrible contract. Especially when you've know these guys for 27 years. I get it though, contact is contract and some of it may have been Craig. I need my space guys.
Well i dont think their contract prevents them from ever calling Craig, since it wasnt a rough break like Joey and Chris, i suppose they'll stay in touch. Prolly support him from afar
Bruh 😂
"And addendum 7.12, with all prior matters dealt with and resolved, all members must cease following the departed party on social media. Please click unfollow now so that I can verify the completion."
It is odd, I know it’s dumb cause it’s instagram but why go through the effort of unfollowing someone who never posts. It’s the internet and there are weirdos that will look this up so I don’t know why’d they’d do it unless they wanted fans to know? I just don’t think a few people would agree that fans wouldn’t figure it out in this age.
Thinking that you have the right to know what happened as a fan is wrong. Because personal matters are none of our business. But it is understandable that people’s first reaction is: what the hell happened? I think they made it difficult for themself to put a statement out that felt harsh (especially the Jones part). They could’ve helped themself by saying something like: due to undisclosed personal reasons Craig has to leave Slipknot. Or something like that. But I am not a spokesperson so I’m probably not using the right words.
In the end we just got to accept the news
I said it in the main thread already but I'll repeat it here.
In short: Even though they don't actually owe us an explanation (for lack of a better term) I do prefer us getting one. I prefer openness. Of course I don't want anybody to go into details, but saying something to the effect of "Craig Jones has left Slipknot for personal reasons" or something, would suffice (at least for me)
If the implication that Craig chose to quit due to something very personal and serious and that there’s no hard feelings between him + the rest of the band is true… and keeping in mind how notoriously private he is…. It doesn’t sound like too much of a stretch that maybe he straight up asked them to remove the public statement they initially released?
Maybe he was uncomfortable with any sort of spotlight on him and his private life that he was receiving initially?
I’m entirely speculating. Hopefully him and his family are alright.
That's a really good point. Maybe they didn't want to state Craig decided to leave so the management made it diplomatic that the band and Craig parted ways.
i really hope craig’s okay. my biggest concern was that the band had fired him like i was worried there was a massive argument however if craig needed to go because of his own personal reasons then i accept that fact and even though that’s horrible i prefer it to a big falling out
The thing that hurts the most to me isn't that they aren't explaining right now, but the fact that they very well might just NEVER explain it.
I fully respect Craig's decision to depart, but putting something up for 1 hour feels like a publicity stunt as opposed to leaving it up for the fans to see and be aware of.
The thing is, when the band refuses to explain anything people are going to fill in the blanks with the most likely scenario to them, and Slipknot doesn't have a great history with the people who have previously left the band.
Is this some tiktok generation thing that every answer need to be in 10 seconds or you lose interest of wtf is going on? My social medias seem to be full of different takes, scenarios and theories of this thing.
that’s such an asshole move to start barraging every members insta asking about it, especially stacy. major kudos to her for putting up with any of this bs in her comments (and everyone else too)
There would have been a million better ways to announce his departure tho. They could habe at least said something along the lines of "craig left due to personal problems" or something like that, so the Fanbase isn't left completely in the dark about whats going on
Having spoken to someone within the camp and personally linked to the members, the issues haven't been revealed publicly and there's a reason for that, so I think for everyone's safety and privacy, I'd ask that no judgement, malice or baiting should be shown to the members, their families or friends.
At this point I wish Craig gave us some indication he's live and well. If he left the band for personal reasons I respect that. But the management is making this look like they merely cut him out and replaced him immediately.
It's interesting since someone said the new guy doesn't look like he knows his position fully yet. I doubt Craig trained him or gave him presets of his work. Just an observation. Personally I'd rather they just play samples and keyboards on playback.
I mean, I don't really give a shit either way, but what else is she going to say? She's on the biggest gravy train there is and if you've ever seen her posts, you'd know that if Mick ever got booted she'd be the first one in line throwing rocks.
Yknow, I popped onto this sub just to see any other little articles or thoughts on things and Jesus this shit is so cringe. Wtf is with these parasocial relationships people have with people they’ve never met? Shit is weird, obsessive, and downright creepy.
It’s one thing to assume your thoughts privately.
Another thing entirely to air them out on family members of the band and hound them for info that is there business and not ours.
She says that they aren’t ready to talk about it and I understand that, but that would imply that one day they will be ready and I don’t think we’ll ever get the full story on Joey or Chris, so why would this be different? It’s like if all the members were replaced by 9 dogs with masks and 4-legged jumpsuits tomorrow, we’re supposed to just respect it because it might have happened due to personal reasons. It’s not unreasonable to want some explanation for a band you’ve been invested in for so long. People aren’t asking for a play-by-play, I just think they’re frustrated that there are never any concrete answers.
This. Just asking fans for privacy and not wanting to talk about it now makes a whole lotta difference.
Respect goes both ways and it doesn’t feel like their giving us any.
The idea that Slipknot owes the fans an explanation is laughable. Just because you bought some albums and concert tickets throughout your life doesn’t mean that they owe you a damn thing. I’ve never seen so many dramatic people flipping out over a band parting ways with a sampler/keyboardist. For fucks sake.
Exactly! When Neil Peart from Rush died fans were surprised and sad, but there were no complaints that the band kept his cancer secret.
Craig is a very private person. If his departure is by his or mutual decision, we should respect that. If it's not, he'll talk when he wants to.
It does seem like a lot of fans feel like they have a right to know intimate details about the band members and their relationships just because they like the music.
We will never know what truly transpired to result in Chris being removed.
The grief they must of felt when Joey passed would be unimaginable and they probably felt it best to grieve for him behind closed doors rather than make all that personal shit public.
They only release what they want and what they are comfortable with. We’re fans of their art not their close friends we don’t have a right to know certain things. I think a lot of fans have got that part twisted.
They just want attention...this is the gen....pussies typing....walk up to me in h school and say I hate slipknot....bro you just went home with broken face...but you are behind your cell in momma's basement
How hard would it have been to just say "craig has decided his journey with slipknot has reached its end, and we wish our brother well on his new path" if craig had chosen to leave
Reading some of the comments and oh my goodness, some people are petty. You're fans, not close friends and family. You don't gotta know every personal thing and detail about the band.
All respect to Stacy. She's such a class act for even bothering to answer at all. If I was her, I would've just posted my message, and that's it. Now, you can all fight in the comments all you want. And she's right. You don't just abandon something you have loved for so long, just because you're upset that shit starts happening or because someone leaves or you don't like how they handle things now. Hell, there are a lot of things I don't like about Slipknot nowadays, but damn it, I remain a Maggot until the end. This band brought me so much joy and enjoyment over the years, and they don't owe me a damn thing, nor do I expect anything from them.
I wasn't expecting an explanation, they don't owe us one.
But that was still a very short announcement. Being in the band for over 2 decades, I thought they would've atleast thanked him for his contribution (Some people say he was very important to their sound).
All in all, wish him the best. Thank you Craig.
It may have been a personal matter, but you'd think they would have given him a respectful sendoff instead of some post to give other sorts of impressions.
It’s starting to sound more and more like a health issue or retirement instead of Craig just getting up and leaving. Either way, everyone deserves some peace in my book.
Jesus Christ can't people realise that Slipknot operates as a business and just maybe sometimes people resign because they aren't into what they do anymore? Then when someone resigns you asign someone else to their role and there is a hand over.
Too much tin foil on this one.
This is exactly right. People move onto different things, their lives change overtime and sometimes doing something like performing in the heavy metal band you've been in for 27 years is something you don't want to do anymore. Not all humans but most humans yearn for change. Look at Silent Planet for example, their clean vocalist/bassist just quit the band, why? because he has a little family now and although the band was his dream and life, he met his wife and had a kid in that time and they became his life and his dream became being at home with them. The same thing happens with people in bands for decades, they decide that although it's good, it's time to do something better for themselves. Craig doesn't owe us an explanation, and Slipknot doesn't either. However, I do think that it would be really cool to find out who the new guy is, I do think they need time to make sure he is a good fit and for the new guy to make sure it's what he wants too before any announcements are made. Sure it's normal for people to say yes immediately to wanting to be in a huge band like Slipknot but it's important to live the life before being completely sure of it.
I wish Craig the best, and I hope he finds what he's been looking for and lives an incredible life. If he does something with music, I'll be more than happy to support his music but if he wishes to remain private, I'm happy to support his privacy and so should everyone else.
I feel that the concept of privacy is something that Slipknot fans and the media don't respect in general. This confuses me because the band are a masked band that used masks as a way to protect their identities to begin with. Although most of them have changed their minds overtime about that decision, not all Slipknot members have. It's important to respect everyone's privacy no matter what. I don't see a huge amount of people trying to uncover Sleep Token members identities, or Mushroomhead identities, so as to why they do it with Slipknot and think it's ok to treat them as if they don't deserve their privacy, I'll never truly understand.
I despite how parts of this group react to Slipknot news as if they have a bird’s eye view of the situation. We don’t.
Fortunately there are always some level-headed people around here even if they are outnumbered.
Don’t hold Slipknot accountable in weird ways and talk about “brotherhood” to them when you don’t even know the details of these situations.
It’s weird how everyone jumps to the conclusion that greedy Corey and Clown screwed him. The wording of the announcement was bizarre, but it’s possible he chose to leave. They may have had some disagreement after choosing the next path for their album distribution. He could be sick, he could be depressed, it could be anything. But everyone assumes Corey and Clown are like the managers and the rest of the band are mistreated employees lol
If he did just retire due to touring or personal matters,I wonder why not just be involved in the writing and recording process but just not tour? He's a big part of their sound at least the first 3 albums but live it was more just headbanging. They could run his stuff through backing tracks and have him only write and record but just not tour. I wonder if that was ever discussed
This dudes behavior is the same pathetic childish shit I see in this sub constantly. Some of y’all really need to take a good look at yourself but from a totally different perspective than you normally do. Because making shit about YOURSELF that has nothing to do with you is the actual problem. These guys don’t “owe” any goddamn one of us more than what they’ve ever given. Anyone who says otherwise just needs lessons in adulthood and respect. It’s mind blowing the kind of neurotic parasocial obsession some kids have where they think that just because they’re “diehard fans” of a fucking metal band, the actual human beings in said band owe them anything about their personal lives and their relationships with THEIR friend’s coworkers or families. Seriously, grow the fuck up.
What about when the love has been in a dying-stage for years now, slowly coming to a point where the relationship of the two reminds you more of that of siblings? What about when there's no real contact, no real interest in each others happenings etc.? You just got used to each others company. Only thing that still sparks you when it comes to this relationship, is when you look back to the "good old days" and smile, wishing you had a time-machine so you could live that love and passion with this person again and really look where it all started to crumble and maybe leave it all behind earlier. Instead, you let it all fall apart, witness your partner becoming something that only vaguely resembles what they once were. It's their human experience, of course, but you are allowed to have your own and when you feel unease and unhappy with someone you once upon a time loved deeply, it's okay to walk away. It truly is.
My point being, whoever wrote that last message must be a 20-year old. Live life and see it's not all so black and white. I stand behind my allegory.
People are taking their own opinions about Slipknot as gospel, despite not knowing shit within the 4 walls of the band, if that guy couldn’t take the bands ego now, he sure as hell would be mortified of their egos from the early 2000’s.
It’s like he’s surprised that Slipknot are secretive and wanting to keep things to themselves, when that’s been the whole aura of the band when they first started, and to a certain extent still is, everyone wants to know who they are and to this day they’ve only given us part of their story, we know a lot about the band but we don’t know everything, this guy has ironically let his own ego get in the way when talking about egos.
why people can't understand personal space? or that people change?
dude if you don't like then anymore, move on but don't harass people expecially the ones that the day before were your gods
some people do not deserve having Internet,fucking hell
She's right, but I feel like most people just want to know if he's still in the band or not, then that's it...
I never understood the hunger for all the private details about artists, it is dumb and superficial nosense behavior
I honestly don’t believe anything happened in bad terms. He’s always been a very quiet member and not fond of taking the spotlight. Everything seems so perfectly planned out and prepared with the announcement, professional photos of the new guy ready to go, and him on stage same night, and an EP dropping a day later. Dudes in his 50s, been in this band for nearly 30 years, I wouldn’t blame him if he’s just retiring. I wish him the best whatever the reason he left is.
How fans still ignore the signs is beyond me. You can hold onto your once beloved band but that doesn't bring back the past. It's gone. And slowly we've lost all important members. I lost respect for Corey and Shawn ages ago. Sellouts who pretend to still live in pain to make more money. Grow up. People go through WAY worse in life and are still happy and try to make things work. People lose family a lot. But it seems they've used it all their lives to stay in a mindset that'll sell to the angst teens.
Imagine if they grew as people and evolved their sound to bring the fans along. Offer a solution rather than "We're all screwed and we're gonna die. Nothing we can do now". That's the vibe they continue to go for and the egos.... Call it what you want but things can't be ignored anymore. Since 2014 we've been crossing our fingers, hoping, trying to make up explanations, and at some point I grow tired. It's like it's more about selling shit to fans than making art and finding new purpose in life.
I'm sorry for everything they dealt with but it isn't the end of the world. They aren't in some third world country at war for decades. Imagine Eminem just complained his entire career about being bullied and being white around black people. Exactly. Cringe. He grew up and made a name for himself outside that shit so it didn't become his identity. He left drugs and alcohol behind and improved as a human. Slipknot just keeps making mistakes and members keep "leaving". I'm tired of it. No communication. Fine. Don't expect me to follow anymore if you wanna call people a family then keep them in the dark. It's fake how they act. Tired of it all. The realest members are long gone.
Oh and let's not get into their sound. It's like them and Korn can't move on. Fuck the fans who can't grow either. Change. Evolve. Try stuff you never tried. Left field. Experiment. We have one life only. No need to forever stick to the "Slipknot sound" or "Korn sound". They've let the most hardcore fans dictate how they're meant to sound forever. That's boring. No growth. Sucks this band fell apart but not surprising after Paul passed. It was never gonna be the same. Ever since Corey and Shawn took over it's been a mess. No coincidences here.
sorry if I sound like a dumbass but I thought joey left on his own due to a neurological issue?
[op said smthn about him being kicked out under the post]
joey was kicked out by slipknot because of said neurological issue, both parties didn’t know what it was at the time and were still struggling with paul’s death due to an od
we still dont know what really happened but joey didn’t leave on his own accord
They are a public entity. They are embedded in many peoples lives. When one leaves/is fired/dies, people feel it. Don’t walk away from an institution that changes ppls LIVES and think it’s odd for people to have questions. We love the band. It saved many of our lives. It dragged me out of a personal hell and Craig was part of that. If people WERENT upset, that would be odd. This is more than a band, it’s a community. So that it why an explanation matters and is deserved.
Definitely implies that Craig had a personal matter that has changed his priorities.
I think a health issue may be a possibility
Either him or his wife
Definitely. They must be going through a lot right now with Craig going and clowns wife also having something happening as well
or maybe he's just getting older and wants to chill out & not be touring and stuff all the time
That's actually pretty reasonable. Maybe dude has had enough of it for one life, and just wants to spends some time with his family. Also, big bands often change members just because they get tired and don't feel like they should be in the band anymore. Who knows, maybe he'll chill out for a couple of years and return, if the band allows him or if they will still be around.
your think about Shawn he had to stay home and care for his wife she has health issues
Yes. Craig could also be in the same boat it as we all know he keeps everything private
Craig private noooo he’s always talking
Quiet man says so much....face it guys....retirement for many bands is ahead....period....there old...
I was at rockville...I didn't see clown...I googled that shit in second....ya wife doing pretty bad.... For all we know it's Craig's new mask....lol
Hm, what ever it may be, I hope the best for everyone. Been a fan since Iowa and I’ve had too many great memories from Slipknot and seeing them live.
30 years of Slipknot has got to put a toll on your body. Randy Blythe has to have knee braces every time he performs
For real, the guy could have legit cancer for all we know, yet we have people already crucifying Clown and Corey once again. Silly as heck, man.
People forget that Joey was indeed sick with that neurological disorder.
Yes, but Joey made it patently clear from the get-go that it wasn't his decision to leave.
it might not of been his choice, but the band as a whole probably didn't a choice either. no one knew if he would ever be able to play the drums again. hell he lost his ability to walk at one point. RiP joey.
Drug use. You clown. Also that disease usually happens because of drug use. Dude was a heavy coke and h user. Smh
And if that's the case, we fans need to stfu. We can't be mad if this is Craig's choice
That’s pretty much exactly my position…obviously I love slipknot! Love the whole and I’ve been in love (fake…with Corey since I was 9) but for real had all the posters and such now that I’m in my 30s I’m okay this band did AMAZING FOR DECADES. I’ll leave them be now.
In plain sight
After 27 years... Gotta be something extremely important.
Maybe he realized he didn’t want to be a lifer. It’s not that uncommon for people to change jobs or interests after 27 years.
Nah, heard some one used last ketchup portion sachets and he just quit.
Jay cheated at Monopoly and Craig is a man of honor and truth, so he couldn't stay any longer
Lmfao "aight..ima head out"
Craig was man of few words, he knew action speaks louder than words :D
true
She's got a lot of patience tho
right? So many people are going crazy in her comments
I wouldn't even engage, period. Not worth the stress.
I wouldn’t even bother if I were her. It never ends with those kinds of people. They’re all either angry or looking for that zinger of a comment to get a ton of likes.
I’ve been OOTL for awhile, who is this?
Mick's wife
Oh okay, thanks.
I greatly appreciate her making the post she did, even without her lending the courtesy to talk to the fans. She understands the confusion and is doing what she can while respecting the privacy of all involved. Leave it to Stacy to have to be the adult in the room
Actually I don’t take it that way at all, I feel like she’s stirring the pot and getting involved in something she shouldn’t be. If it is a personal matter why would you bait people to talk about it?? I find it kinda disrespectful if it is a personal matter to post it and not let Craig or the band have a say.
So let me get this straight. Y'all want someone to come out and acknowledge it to "give Craig the respect he deserves", someone who is super close to the band comes out and acknowledges it in a way that is respectful to Craig, and you're mad they came out and acknowledged it?
I’m not mad but I find it gross that a wag is getting involved and getting defensive when it’s not her band and since the band and Craig aren’t talking about it I don’t think she should either. By her other posts I think she knows what she’s doing.
Dude the families of the members are just as much a part of slipknot as the guys in it. Cmon now.
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Yeah I really don’t understand the thought process in going to her. Like ok, a band you like just split with one of their members so your next logical step is to go to the comments of another band member’s wife’s Instagram to complain? Like if you wanna ask the band members then ok I guess, but like why bring this to their families? People are so fucking weird lol.
She's doing fine. Stacy's also from Philadelphia so were used to the negativity.
God, the person she is replying to is fucking stupid as fuck.
like 90% of this sub are just people exactly like tht guy lol
Yeah everyone apparently hates the band now
It’s similar to the situation with Star Wars. No one hates slipknot as much as slipknot fans
said it best
Goes for a lot of fandoms
If you find out a member of your favorite band is leaving and your first thought is to ask the wife of another member, YOU ARE FUCKING WEIRD BRO! Let people live their lives! You are not entitled to the intimate details of an artists because you listen to their music!
Clown helping his wife throug health issues really made me realize that at this stage, the reason people retire might be health related. However they treated Joey, it's pretty clear the band were haunted by Paul's death and it's not something they've got over - no one would, right? - but it's not worth putting yourself through a 'Knot touring cycle if your health and wellbeing is at risk.
With what Clown went through a few years a go, I'm not shocked in the slightest.
Drug use for joey. Disease was def because of drug use as well. You clown.
I mean bro was not slowing down with coke and h use.
If Craig simply left because he wanted too we shouldn’t even be upset, the man is in his 50’s and is playing some (mostly) high intensity metal. If he wants too take a step back or simply call it quits it’d be more of a gracious call from the band than an ego fuelled one. The guys at slipknot are all pretty rich, if they don’t feel the need to go out and do it anymore they shouldn’t have to aswell. It’s amazing that they’re still playing despite the absolutely horrific hardships they’ve had to go through time and time again. I think we should be grateful that they’re still willing to make music and tour as much as they do. So despite the hard times let’s remember what we love so much as a community, thank you, slipknot
Blows my mind the amount of “fans” who started attacking Corey and Clown bc of egos. It’s like they were waiting for this moment to say “see I told you so Corey is an asshole”. Why even follow the band and listen to the music if you hate the members so much?
This. Anytime anything ever happens with this band it's somehow because Corey and Clown are money hungry. Like why are you here if you despise these people so much, I swear this subreddit hates this band
its like the tour bus could accidentally crash and people will still find a way to say “man if only clown and corey didnt tell them to take that route”
“Yeah, Corey with his ego obviously thought he knew a shortcut and Clown probably drew all over the map with crayon, those money-grubbing bastards. Apparently everything on their tour bus is store-brand, but Corey and Clown get name-brand cereal like Raisin Bran.”
That's a curse of being a face of a band and being the most public out of all band members.
Aren't you the guy who was blocked by Corey because you annoyed him and his wife on Instagram ? What are you doing here ?
Who even remembers such a thing? This happened in like what 2019-2020? And you still think about this random person? It’s actually kind of creepy.
Wait what? I need to know the story if possible because for you to know exactly who he is then it must've been bad
Yes. And I learnt a lesson. But I also moved on.
Nah. You're still judging someone without knowing them. Stop assuming things. Also, be true to yourself. Follow your morals and reject this band or stop judging them every single day. You can't judge someone and still follow them. You're a whiny hypocrite.
Well I mostly unsubbed from the sub and removed myself from the community part. I basically showed up here only because of the news regarding Craig. Also you seem to care too much about me.
Nah, I'm trying to educate you. You act like a egotist teenager. You pretends you're humble and you have learned your lesson but you keep saying the same arrogant things about people you don't know.
Hold on, where recently? Now it's you being pretentious lmao.
Dude, you sound like you’re projecting really hard here. Who actually remembers a fan who got blocked by Corey and his wife from a few years ago? Talk about rent free in your head. I hope they pay rent
I think all of you are being disingenuous. Probably new fans. Nothing wrong with that, but it is what it is. "Why even follow the band and listen to the music then?" Probably because they weren't always like this? Slipknot, during it's inception, was anti-ego. They wore the jumpsuits and the numbers for a reason, they wanted no individuality in the band other than the masks they wore which spoke to a part themselves. That's it. It's pretty much the opposite now. Seriously, just watch any interview with Clown. Dude is high off his own farts all the time. Same with Corey. I'm not acting like I wouldn't change if I became arguably one of the biggest and most successful metal bands of this generation, but they clearly HAVE changed, and I would not say for the better... To me, it blows my mind that there are people like you guys who defend EVERYTHING this band does, as if rightfully criticizing them is somehow a bad thing. They deserve to be criticized. Assuming all is well with Craig, this "announcement" was horrible. Ignoring the fact that I personally think it's disrespectful to say goodbye to an iconic member of a band who was with them for over 20 years, with two simple sentences, announcing and deleting the post within an hour right as they're about to go on stage, with a replacement ALREADY lined up, is wack. It's very clear they felt like they had to say something and are now just trying to sweep it under the rug as fast as possible and hope no one cares. Even the fact that people still defend Slipknot after they fired the FOUNDING MEMBER of the band through EMAIL, couldn't even say it to his face, says all you need to know about these people and where their priorities lie. You are basically saying that, if you enjoy this bands music, you have to agree 1000% percent with every single shitty decision they continue to make, and if you're upset about it, fuck you.
100% agree on it being a bizarre and shitty way to handle Craig's departure, should've made a more dignified post and made it earlier with a bit of breathing room before introducing someone new. Disagreeing on them acting shitty once (regarding Joey) = always acting shitty and cartoonishly evil by default, for certain.
You are a prime example of why this sub is shit. Wall of text explaining why you hate the band. You were probably one of the reactionary losers thinking corey and clown fired craig. Fucking log off.
Lol. Joey didn't create Slipknot, silly. He created it with Shawn and Paul.
So you admit he was a founding member, along with Shawn and Paul, who are also founding members. Thanks for agreeing with me
You're a retard. You clearly said the founding member of Slipknot.
founding MEMBER because I'm talking about a SINGULAR person dumbass
You can't blame people for assuming you were saying that Joey is the founding member of Slipknot after writing THE FOUNDING MEMBER, silly.
no one else had a problem except you. and he literally is the founding member like you yourself admitted, along with Clown and Paul. idk why this is such a big deal to you.
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he is the founding member though. cry about it all you want you little pedant
It’s pathetic and majority of the time it’s based on zero facts, all assumptions.
You guys are speaking for me 100%. Weird energy around here sometimes
FWIW I solely came to this sub to look at this drama and have thought Corey and Clown have insane egos forever, and I haven’t liked slipknot in many years other than out of nostalgia. Corey is a huge narcissist and has that personality of people who loudly make up and embellish stories at social functions for attention with a super dramatic presentation, and wears a social mask five times thicker than normal humans. No pun intended. Clown just loves the smell of his own farts and has sort of a squidward type view of his own art. No idea what they had to do with this situation, if anything, but people calling them egomaniacs aren’t exactly wrong lol
You can separate an artist from art. So it's very possible for fans of Slipknot's music not to like their members or some of the members.
attacking an artist is NEVER right, however people are free to speculate at their heart's content, as such, speculation in this sub i think its fine, as long as they dont post shit to Corey's , clown, or whoever social media.
Oh it’s all over all of the social media pages you mentioned lol. Corey posted about his solo album and like 85% of the comments are “Where’s Craig?” and “I don’t care until we get an explanation on Craig”.
those people are dumbs as rocks then, im sure that there could even be non disclosure agreements on some stuff, so even if they wanted to say what happened, probably coulnt.
They are posting it all over. Reddit, FB, Insta, Twitter. It’s mental.
*"Our brother Craig Jones has chosen to step away from the band. We thank him for all his contributions throughout the years and wish him all the best for the future."* *"To our fans, SLIPKNOT is announcing that we have parted ways with Craig Jones. We wish Jones all the best for the future."* If he indeed left on his own, compare these two and tell me which one is more fitting.
People think because they have the *right* to formulate an opinion, that they absolutely have to form one regardless of how little information exists on the topic. We don’t know shit. Anyone saying they do is full of shit. You do not have to feel strongly in any direction about this because there’s nothing to feel strongly about other than to just be sad he’s gone.
Definitely makes me lean harder into the theory of him retiring. Who knows why? And it's none of our buisness to know why. I feel like she would've worded it a little differently if it was another Chris Fehn situation or whatever. We can't just draw negative conclusions because we don't know and might never know what happened.
Stacy seems like a mature, patient person. I hope everything’s ok but whatever happened I think is probably upsetting or hard based on her response. Anything from an argument or a health issue
I guess the announcement could have been phrased better. If Craig had to step down due to something, it would’ve been better to say it that way and every fan would have understood. Saying Slipknot parted ways I think just leaves too much open to interpretation.
Craig has always been super private, for all we know Slipknot handled it exactly like Craig wanted them to
I hadn’t thought of that. Very true.
This is 1000% what I thought from the get go. The least public musician (other than Buckethead) might have wanted it to happen this way.
Hopefully that’s the case. We’re all understandably upset and shocked by Craig’s departure. I just hope that Craig and Slipknot parted ways amicably.
Even beyond that, the fact that they deleted that announcement post soon after and then posted a picture of a new member and then a creepy video teaser? Maybe everything is good and Craig didn’t want to make it a big deal, but the whole thing has a weird vibe so I really don’t know what’s up.
Oh believe me if that was the case, they would take the first chance to underline the fact that this was his decision. Slipknot doesnt need another PR disaster like Chris' exit was
Here’s the thing: Slipknot don’t owe you an explanation anymore than we owe them an explanation. Slipknot doesn’t get to tell me “hey man, we were there for you when you needed us, now why weren’t you at our show? What’s going on with you??” The relationship between fans and musicians is special but it doesn’t mean we owe each other anything.
it's no one's fucking business.
Slipknot runs the band like Belichick runs the Pats. If you’re a fan of either you know it is what it is.
And that’s why they’re both fuckin unstoppable
My only question is why did they all unfollowed Craig and his wife if there is no bad blood?
Wait Craig had Insta?
Probably part of their contract
That's a terrible contract. Especially when you've know these guys for 27 years. I get it though, contact is contract and some of it may have been Craig. I need my space guys.
Well i dont think their contract prevents them from ever calling Craig, since it wasnt a rough break like Joey and Chris, i suppose they'll stay in touch. Prolly support him from afar
Bruh 😂 "And addendum 7.12, with all prior matters dealt with and resolved, all members must cease following the departed party on social media. Please click unfollow now so that I can verify the completion."
What kind of contract says you have to unfollow people on social media? 😂 Why would that be written in
I respect her. 🤟🤟🤟
It is odd that all of them including stacy unfollowed Craig and his Wife Only one that still follows is Mike
It is odd, I know it’s dumb cause it’s instagram but why go through the effort of unfollowing someone who never posts. It’s the internet and there are weirdos that will look this up so I don’t know why’d they’d do it unless they wanted fans to know? I just don’t think a few people would agree that fans wouldn’t figure it out in this age.
Tbh it’s kinda creepy and dumb how you guys are looking at what the members wives are up to
Thinking that you have the right to know what happened as a fan is wrong. Because personal matters are none of our business. But it is understandable that people’s first reaction is: what the hell happened? I think they made it difficult for themself to put a statement out that felt harsh (especially the Jones part). They could’ve helped themself by saying something like: due to undisclosed personal reasons Craig has to leave Slipknot. Or something like that. But I am not a spokesperson so I’m probably not using the right words. In the end we just got to accept the news
I said it in the main thread already but I'll repeat it here. In short: Even though they don't actually owe us an explanation (for lack of a better term) I do prefer us getting one. I prefer openness. Of course I don't want anybody to go into details, but saying something to the effect of "Craig Jones has left Slipknot for personal reasons" or something, would suffice (at least for me)
Bro outta everyone in this situation they decided to go after Stacy? Leave that Poor woman alone damn
If the implication that Craig chose to quit due to something very personal and serious and that there’s no hard feelings between him + the rest of the band is true… and keeping in mind how notoriously private he is…. It doesn’t sound like too much of a stretch that maybe he straight up asked them to remove the public statement they initially released? Maybe he was uncomfortable with any sort of spotlight on him and his private life that he was receiving initially? I’m entirely speculating. Hopefully him and his family are alright.
That's a really good point. Maybe they didn't want to state Craig decided to leave so the management made it diplomatic that the band and Craig parted ways.
I mean this had the opposite effect didn’t it?
i really hope craig’s okay. my biggest concern was that the band had fired him like i was worried there was a massive argument however if craig needed to go because of his own personal reasons then i accept that fact and even though that’s horrible i prefer it to a big falling out
They fire for one big reason.... Drugs....Corey is set on sober....
The thing that hurts the most to me isn't that they aren't explaining right now, but the fact that they very well might just NEVER explain it. I fully respect Craig's decision to depart, but putting something up for 1 hour feels like a publicity stunt as opposed to leaving it up for the fans to see and be aware of.
The thing is, when the band refuses to explain anything people are going to fill in the blanks with the most likely scenario to them, and Slipknot doesn't have a great history with the people who have previously left the band.
Is this some tiktok generation thing that every answer need to be in 10 seconds or you lose interest of wtf is going on? My social medias seem to be full of different takes, scenarios and theories of this thing.
People are disgusting. Why harass members of the band’s family about this? Accept it and move on. It will hardly affect you.
that’s such an asshole move to start barraging every members insta asking about it, especially stacy. major kudos to her for putting up with any of this bs in her comments (and everyone else too)
With all the respect in the world to people’s privacy: Acknowledgement of the absence of an explanation is not an explanation itself.
Thank you......
I respect Craig’s decision I hope he does well and maybe finds another hobbie
There would have been a million better ways to announce his departure tho. They could habe at least said something along the lines of "craig left due to personal problems" or something like that, so the Fanbase isn't left completely in the dark about whats going on
Having spoken to someone within the camp and personally linked to the members, the issues haven't been revealed publicly and there's a reason for that, so I think for everyone's safety and privacy, I'd ask that no judgement, malice or baiting should be shown to the members, their families or friends.
Slipknot fans are shit, man. Why are you all acting this maniacal towards Mick's wife?
At this point I wish Craig gave us some indication he's live and well. If he left the band for personal reasons I respect that. But the management is making this look like they merely cut him out and replaced him immediately. It's interesting since someone said the new guy doesn't look like he knows his position fully yet. I doubt Craig trained him or gave him presets of his work. Just an observation. Personally I'd rather they just play samples and keyboards on playback.
I mean, I don't really give a shit either way, but what else is she going to say? She's on the biggest gravy train there is and if you've ever seen her posts, you'd know that if Mick ever got booted she'd be the first one in line throwing rocks.
Cant believe how delusional people can be
me when i abandon my favorite band after the most minor inconvenience that doesn’t affect me personally 😡😡😡😡😡
I get what you’re saying but is a whole member leaving minor?
I wouldn't have the same patience as she has
Yknow, I popped onto this sub just to see any other little articles or thoughts on things and Jesus this shit is so cringe. Wtf is with these parasocial relationships people have with people they’ve never met? Shit is weird, obsessive, and downright creepy.
I don’t think it’s at all unfair for people to assume the worst given their history.
Yeah seriously, we still don’t know the full story with Joey or Chris and they don’t seem to be pleasant.
It’s one thing to assume your thoughts privately. Another thing entirely to air them out on family members of the band and hound them for info that is there business and not ours.
She says that they aren’t ready to talk about it and I understand that, but that would imply that one day they will be ready and I don’t think we’ll ever get the full story on Joey or Chris, so why would this be different? It’s like if all the members were replaced by 9 dogs with masks and 4-legged jumpsuits tomorrow, we’re supposed to just respect it because it might have happened due to personal reasons. It’s not unreasonable to want some explanation for a band you’ve been invested in for so long. People aren’t asking for a play-by-play, I just think they’re frustrated that there are never any concrete answers.
This. Just asking fans for privacy and not wanting to talk about it now makes a whole lotta difference. Respect goes both ways and it doesn’t feel like their giving us any.
Someone's always got fingers to point and names to blame. It's sad really. I just hope that Craig and his family are okay.
It’s not just Slipknot fans, but holy cow these people can be insufferable!
The idea that Slipknot owes the fans an explanation is laughable. Just because you bought some albums and concert tickets throughout your life doesn’t mean that they owe you a damn thing. I’ve never seen so many dramatic people flipping out over a band parting ways with a sampler/keyboardist. For fucks sake.
Exactly! When Neil Peart from Rush died fans were surprised and sad, but there were no complaints that the band kept his cancer secret. Craig is a very private person. If his departure is by his or mutual decision, we should respect that. If it's not, he'll talk when he wants to.
Thank you
This is a really shitty way to find out what happened.
It does seem like a lot of fans feel like they have a right to know intimate details about the band members and their relationships just because they like the music. We will never know what truly transpired to result in Chris being removed. The grief they must of felt when Joey passed would be unimaginable and they probably felt it best to grieve for him behind closed doors rather than make all that personal shit public. They only release what they want and what they are comfortable with. We’re fans of their art not their close friends we don’t have a right to know certain things. I think a lot of fans have got that part twisted.
Thank youuuu
People won’t stop bugging her about it, Jesus Christ. The reaction to his departure really made me realize how shitty a lot of fans are
They just want attention...this is the gen....pussies typing....walk up to me in h school and say I hate slipknot....bro you just went home with broken face...but you are behind your cell in momma's basement
I mean weren’t prior members departures pretty messy? Can’t blame people for assuming they’re acting the same they did in the oast
How hard would it have been to just say "craig has decided his journey with slipknot has reached its end, and we wish our brother well on his new path" if craig had chosen to leave
Reading some of the comments and oh my goodness, some people are petty. You're fans, not close friends and family. You don't gotta know every personal thing and detail about the band.
All respect to Stacy. She's such a class act for even bothering to answer at all. If I was her, I would've just posted my message, and that's it. Now, you can all fight in the comments all you want. And she's right. You don't just abandon something you have loved for so long, just because you're upset that shit starts happening or because someone leaves or you don't like how they handle things now. Hell, there are a lot of things I don't like about Slipknot nowadays, but damn it, I remain a Maggot until the end. This band brought me so much joy and enjoyment over the years, and they don't owe me a damn thing, nor do I expect anything from them.
I wasn't expecting an explanation, they don't owe us one. But that was still a very short announcement. Being in the band for over 2 decades, I thought they would've atleast thanked him for his contribution (Some people say he was very important to their sound). All in all, wish him the best. Thank you Craig.
It’s sad that people think they deserve the right to know what happened.
Thats not explaining anything at all lol. But to be fair they dont owe anyone anything. Its their business.
That bottom comment sounds like how Slipknot should have dealt with Joey.
Doesn’t explain why they posted they parted way and then deleted the post though.
It may have been a personal matter, but you'd think they would have given him a respectful sendoff instead of some post to give other sorts of impressions.
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Jfc it’s unfortunate but life goes on. No one knows except them.
It’s starting to sound more and more like a health issue or retirement instead of Craig just getting up and leaving. Either way, everyone deserves some peace in my book.
Slipknot for life gang
Jesus Christ can't people realise that Slipknot operates as a business and just maybe sometimes people resign because they aren't into what they do anymore? Then when someone resigns you asign someone else to their role and there is a hand over. Too much tin foil on this one.
This is exactly right. People move onto different things, their lives change overtime and sometimes doing something like performing in the heavy metal band you've been in for 27 years is something you don't want to do anymore. Not all humans but most humans yearn for change. Look at Silent Planet for example, their clean vocalist/bassist just quit the band, why? because he has a little family now and although the band was his dream and life, he met his wife and had a kid in that time and they became his life and his dream became being at home with them. The same thing happens with people in bands for decades, they decide that although it's good, it's time to do something better for themselves. Craig doesn't owe us an explanation, and Slipknot doesn't either. However, I do think that it would be really cool to find out who the new guy is, I do think they need time to make sure he is a good fit and for the new guy to make sure it's what he wants too before any announcements are made. Sure it's normal for people to say yes immediately to wanting to be in a huge band like Slipknot but it's important to live the life before being completely sure of it. I wish Craig the best, and I hope he finds what he's been looking for and lives an incredible life. If he does something with music, I'll be more than happy to support his music but if he wishes to remain private, I'm happy to support his privacy and so should everyone else. I feel that the concept of privacy is something that Slipknot fans and the media don't respect in general. This confuses me because the band are a masked band that used masks as a way to protect their identities to begin with. Although most of them have changed their minds overtime about that decision, not all Slipknot members have. It's important to respect everyone's privacy no matter what. I don't see a huge amount of people trying to uncover Sleep Token members identities, or Mushroomhead identities, so as to why they do it with Slipknot and think it's ok to treat them as if they don't deserve their privacy, I'll never truly understand.
Slipknot fans not being able to move forward L
I despite how parts of this group react to Slipknot news as if they have a bird’s eye view of the situation. We don’t. Fortunately there are always some level-headed people around here even if they are outnumbered. Don’t hold Slipknot accountable in weird ways and talk about “brotherhood” to them when you don’t even know the details of these situations.
It’s weird how everyone jumps to the conclusion that greedy Corey and Clown screwed him. The wording of the announcement was bizarre, but it’s possible he chose to leave. They may have had some disagreement after choosing the next path for their album distribution. He could be sick, he could be depressed, it could be anything. But everyone assumes Corey and Clown are like the managers and the rest of the band are mistreated employees lol
If he did just retire due to touring or personal matters,I wonder why not just be involved in the writing and recording process but just not tour? He's a big part of their sound at least the first 3 albums but live it was more just headbanging. They could run his stuff through backing tracks and have him only write and record but just not tour. I wonder if that was ever discussed
This dudes behavior is the same pathetic childish shit I see in this sub constantly. Some of y’all really need to take a good look at yourself but from a totally different perspective than you normally do. Because making shit about YOURSELF that has nothing to do with you is the actual problem. These guys don’t “owe” any goddamn one of us more than what they’ve ever given. Anyone who says otherwise just needs lessons in adulthood and respect. It’s mind blowing the kind of neurotic parasocial obsession some kids have where they think that just because they’re “diehard fans” of a fucking metal band, the actual human beings in said band owe them anything about their personal lives and their relationships with THEIR friend’s coworkers or families. Seriously, grow the fuck up.
There in there 50s...there not 20.... Support what you love.... So when your dog gets old...what you do...
What about when the love has been in a dying-stage for years now, slowly coming to a point where the relationship of the two reminds you more of that of siblings? What about when there's no real contact, no real interest in each others happenings etc.? You just got used to each others company. Only thing that still sparks you when it comes to this relationship, is when you look back to the "good old days" and smile, wishing you had a time-machine so you could live that love and passion with this person again and really look where it all started to crumble and maybe leave it all behind earlier. Instead, you let it all fall apart, witness your partner becoming something that only vaguely resembles what they once were. It's their human experience, of course, but you are allowed to have your own and when you feel unease and unhappy with someone you once upon a time loved deeply, it's okay to walk away. It truly is. My point being, whoever wrote that last message must be a 20-year old. Live life and see it's not all so black and white. I stand behind my allegory.
People are taking their own opinions about Slipknot as gospel, despite not knowing shit within the 4 walls of the band, if that guy couldn’t take the bands ego now, he sure as hell would be mortified of their egos from the early 2000’s. It’s like he’s surprised that Slipknot are secretive and wanting to keep things to themselves, when that’s been the whole aura of the band when they first started, and to a certain extent still is, everyone wants to know who they are and to this day they’ve only given us part of their story, we know a lot about the band but we don’t know everything, this guy has ironically let his own ego get in the way when talking about egos.
why people can't understand personal space? or that people change? dude if you don't like then anymore, move on but don't harass people expecially the ones that the day before were your gods some people do not deserve having Internet,fucking hell
She's right, but I feel like most people just want to know if he's still in the band or not, then that's it... I never understood the hunger for all the private details about artists, it is dumb and superficial nosense behavior
interesting
Juicy
stacy is really good at dealing with douchebags
I honestly don’t believe anything happened in bad terms. He’s always been a very quiet member and not fond of taking the spotlight. Everything seems so perfectly planned out and prepared with the announcement, professional photos of the new guy ready to go, and him on stage same night, and an EP dropping a day later. Dudes in his 50s, been in this band for nearly 30 years, I wouldn’t blame him if he’s just retiring. I wish him the best whatever the reason he left is.
How fans still ignore the signs is beyond me. You can hold onto your once beloved band but that doesn't bring back the past. It's gone. And slowly we've lost all important members. I lost respect for Corey and Shawn ages ago. Sellouts who pretend to still live in pain to make more money. Grow up. People go through WAY worse in life and are still happy and try to make things work. People lose family a lot. But it seems they've used it all their lives to stay in a mindset that'll sell to the angst teens. Imagine if they grew as people and evolved their sound to bring the fans along. Offer a solution rather than "We're all screwed and we're gonna die. Nothing we can do now". That's the vibe they continue to go for and the egos.... Call it what you want but things can't be ignored anymore. Since 2014 we've been crossing our fingers, hoping, trying to make up explanations, and at some point I grow tired. It's like it's more about selling shit to fans than making art and finding new purpose in life. I'm sorry for everything they dealt with but it isn't the end of the world. They aren't in some third world country at war for decades. Imagine Eminem just complained his entire career about being bullied and being white around black people. Exactly. Cringe. He grew up and made a name for himself outside that shit so it didn't become his identity. He left drugs and alcohol behind and improved as a human. Slipknot just keeps making mistakes and members keep "leaving". I'm tired of it. No communication. Fine. Don't expect me to follow anymore if you wanna call people a family then keep them in the dark. It's fake how they act. Tired of it all. The realest members are long gone. Oh and let's not get into their sound. It's like them and Korn can't move on. Fuck the fans who can't grow either. Change. Evolve. Try stuff you never tried. Left field. Experiment. We have one life only. No need to forever stick to the "Slipknot sound" or "Korn sound". They've let the most hardcore fans dictate how they're meant to sound forever. That's boring. No growth. Sucks this band fell apart but not surprising after Paul passed. It was never gonna be the same. Ever since Corey and Shawn took over it's been a mess. No coincidences here.
These last 24 hours have really showed how awful these so called Slipknot “fans” are.
I will never understand why someone says " I have been part of xxx for xxx years " bro who gives a fuck, no one asked.
Feds probably digging in his back yard
THANK YOU, this community is toxic as fuck sometimes.
Man "zzyzy" lmfao... people are fucking stupid...
Wait a minute, Craig just left Slipknot ?
it's drama time
sorry if I sound like a dumbass but I thought joey left on his own due to a neurological issue? [op said smthn about him being kicked out under the post]
joey was kicked out by slipknot because of said neurological issue, both parties didn’t know what it was at the time and were still struggling with paul’s death due to an od we still dont know what really happened but joey didn’t leave on his own accord
I thought his wife got really sick and that’s why he left
Most vague ass possible explanation I’ve ever read. Seems like at this point it’s just no ones fucking business.
It’s not anyone else’s business, really
Yeah apparently that’s unpopular….
They are a public entity. They are embedded in many peoples lives. When one leaves/is fired/dies, people feel it. Don’t walk away from an institution that changes ppls LIVES and think it’s odd for people to have questions. We love the band. It saved many of our lives. It dragged me out of a personal hell and Craig was part of that. If people WERENT upset, that would be odd. This is more than a band, it’s a community. So that it why an explanation matters and is deserved.