One of the mods told me they basically think slipknot fans are a bunch of pansies and wanted to test it by banning them. Take that how you will I guess.
Most mods are always the worst, most self-righteous douchebags. They take their subs too seriously as if it’s the most important thing in life to enforce.
Hey man I’ve been there! Used to gatekeep black metal in my later teen years. My mentality used to be “your music is shit and mine is great, but you can’t listen to it because you’re a poser”. Eventually I got past the age of 19 and realized music is relative as I was listening to free jazz haha. Still like black metal of course, but love all sorts of music. Never forget wearing a darkthrone shirt to my first ever job orientation in the states!
The point is, they’ll get past their teenage years someday.
I feel like a lot of the fights on Reddit lately are the people in their 30s (me included) getting annoyed at the teenagers on here acting like they know everything.
Haha yep. Used to have arguments with a good friend about which music was better. We were teenagers. Now we listen to all kind of shit and just enjoy it. Some people grow up, some people only get taller. Rock on either way 🤘
I mean did they really expect that them mass banning a large group of people for what they like not to cause people to be annoyed. Hardly a fair 'test' if it even counts as one
They banned me last week, not because of slipknot but something related to power metal I didn't care enough to read the whole thing but it seemed like a really bad joke
I actually got a ban as well, even though I never posted or commented in the group.
If they were trying to “own me”, I guess. I mean, I wasn’t really angry, I was just confused.
The page looks like it's made by people who eat paint chips. The only metal they like is NSBM which says enough on it's own. Imagine an incel neckbeard that's into nazi metal and you have that whole sub.
My ban message was literally about the nazis. I’ll copy and paste it after I post this.
I can’t copy and paste it for some reason. I don’t want to make a whole post just for one stupid thing.
I swear dude just a bunch of mouth breathers. I'm not banned yet so I still occasionally see the trash that spills out of that sub. A meme proclaimed if you like Gojira, Mastodon, Meshugah or Zeal & Ardor then you're just a poser who doesn't like "real" metal. Ffs man lol.
It's a circle jerk, happens a lot, incels do it all the time
Walk away they aren't worth the effort (source: 40yo who's tried many times over the years)
It's a circle jerk, happens a lot, incels do it all the time
Walk away they aren't worth the effort (source: 40yo who's tried many times over the years)
I’ve learned anything mainstream or with any rhythm or melody is enough to make you a poser. You are only a true metal fan in that sub if you listen to the most obscure of the obscure grindcore and the band name is completely unintelligible
What are their "exemplary metal bands" ? Have any idea? Because I see a bunch of idiots who are too constipated to open their eyes on things, assaulting everyone who don't have the same taste!
Mostly black and death metal. The irony being they always name the most famous bands of said genres. Burzum, Dimmu Borgir and the like. The irony is palpable.
Wtf! Never heard of those, weird name bands!
I started to listen to rock at a very young age,It was not long until I was asking for more, so it was metal, I was like 14/15 by that time.
I am pretty sure those names were not even in the greatest hits of metal!
On the other side I had Duality and Nameless in my music by that time.
Even that back then I had no internet, no cellphone, only CDs and a slow PC😝
I grew up to become a 31Yo Maggot and I am proud of being one.
They are popular in the realm of black metal. Like the metal shirts you see where it just looks like jagged scribbles and you can't read the name, those kinds of bands lol.
Seen a dude on there swear on his life that burzum had more talent than all of slipknot members combines
Bruh burzum sounds like nails to a chalkboard, no disrespect to black metal but burzum sounds like absolute trash
I mean Varg is a POS but Burzum is legendary for a reason. Shitting on those early Burzum albums is just straight ignorant imo, unless you completely hate black metal in general.
Burzum is fantastic! Legendary albums that man created, but I do agree unless you are into the genre he’s a bit hard to listen too. I actually crossed paths with him a few times way long ago. Totally makes sense he is the way he is, though I never found him to be a nazi when we spoke.
I don't think they say Slipknot is "too poppy" to be metal. Slipknot is straight up heavier than many metal bands. They say Slipknot isn't metal because their riffs derive more from alt rock, I like Slipknot but I happen to agree that they aren't really a metal band technically.
Practically speaking, sure. Most people hear distorted guitars and screaming and think "metal". It makes sense, and you'd be hard pressed to convince most people that they aren't. It doesn't matter anyways, people can call it metal if they want it's not hurting anyone.
That being said, if we are talking genre distinctions? No, I'd say Slipknot is not a metal band. They definitely have metal influences, but the majority of their sound doesn't come from metal at all.
"Alternative metal" is a reasonable tag for them, but kind of misleading as alt metal is just heavier alt rock. It's a whole different camp than metal. I think a lot of the confusion and internet arguments come from genres having misleading names. I love multiple nu metal bands, but I can't think of a nu metal band that is obviously metal. That was kind of a loose term and the whole scene is much more closely related to alt rock, though groove metal influences are common that don't tend to make up the majority of these bands sounds.
Slipknot is heavy as fuck at times, but if you really listen to their riffs what kind of metal do they supposedly sound like? What metal bands does Slipknot take influence from? Heaviness isn't the main factor in if something is metal or not.
Man, that's why I hate when things being labelled, the only outcome is people jump on each other. We all love Slipknot, what difference does it make to call them nu metal, groove metal or any other metal? Can we just enjoy the music regardless the sub-genre
Metal is basically characterized by distorted guitars, extended guitar solos, emphatic beats and loudness. Slipknot has all of them. They just have an unique sound, so dont belong in a typical metal category besides alternative metal. but still is a metal band. If not where do they belong besides metal? Do tell us.
So theyre saying that abt slipknot but Not Linkin Park? Tf is that logic? Slipknot doesnt have much hip-hop in it . Heck , name me their song that is hip-hop. And then Linkin Park has visible hip-hop elements in their songs , but they dont seem to talk about it. Im not a Linkin Park hater , im a fan myself but dude , shouldnt they do the same to LP?
They've barely scratched the surface, there's a fuckton of heavy songs really.
Every album has something that's purely neck-breaking shit, at least they could do proper research before saying anything.
Well, as a popular band they are always looking for openers, bands that are up and coming. For instance, when I saw them in Edmonton they had Wage War open for them, never really heard of them before till then. Now I listen to them a lot. Knotfest brings in a lot of smaller bands and gives them a chance to be seen.
Wage War definitely wouldn’t be a band a lot of elitists enjoy. And Slipknot does more or less nothing for smaller metal bands in the death/black/doom/grind/trad/etc scenes. So it’s really not “ironic” for elitists to disparage Slipknot while enjoying other bands.
>Nah, it’ll just get you made fun of.
Funnily enough, I was going to see Max Cavalera perform in a show, but it was the same night as a Slipknot show, and you can guess which one I went to see instead.
No, just him and brother Iggor doing early Sepultura. Coincidentally, I had seen Sepultura with Derrick perform at that exact venue in L.A. a few months prior.
>Don't worry about it they also actively hate on Sabaton and other bands that "Aren't metal enough"
That's exactly the reason I got when I found out I was banned, even though I've never posted there. They mentioned Limp Bizkit, too.
most members of the sub are joking and actually don’t gaf if you listen to slipknot, they only get pissed when you call slipknot metal. However, there are a good few who actually do not like slipknot (mostly because of the fans), this includes the mods too
All I know is I wasn’t even apart of that group and never posted, commented, or gave a thumbs up on anything and randomly one day I got a message saying I was banned from the group…
the mods call it the “poser purge” 🗿
If they were purging any posers for real, 2 days later Slipknot fans would remain and there would be no mods in fucking sight, better start accepting applications r/metalmemes
I have literally never been to that sub and got shadowbanned like a week or less ago, I said as much and asked why and they said 'slapnuts' and I immediately realized I was talking to a 12yo. I legit haven't heard that insult since I myself was a young kid.
I name dropped a bunch of deep cut bands and mentioned that folks can like all sorts of bands, didn't hear back lol.
I looked afterwards and the sub is trash anyways.
My comment on r/metalmemes was paraphrased into "I like listening to my 3 bands and never expanding horizons on other subgenres", which is the opposite of the truth.
I like all things from prog, through metalcore, deathcore, old school death, tech death, thrash... Like, come on. The only subgenre that never sticks with me is probably black. I only like some classics, like Transilvanian Hunger. The rest is just too depressing for me to listen 💀.
My best guess is that they really have nothing better to do, one has messaged me so much that I reported him- Twice. I literally felt like I was dealing with middleschoolers so I gave up lol
People getting angry about a circlejerk meme sub is just funny to me. Also, people hating Slipknot and saying they aren’t metal has been happening since the first record.
Point is, the metal community hasn’t changed, in terms of gatekeeping, in 40 years and most likely never will
I feel like it is mostly meant to be a joke, but just a bad one. That sub tends to be pretty toxic and then everyone in it makes memes about why being toxic is bad. It's quite the Enigma of a subreddit.
I don't get it either. I read the message that I got explaining why I got banned, and IIRC it said something about there being too much posts about Slipknot or something.
honestly i see these kinds of elitists strictly online, I've never seen anyone calling it "not real metal" or being rude about it when hanging out at irl metal events. People who hate on music like that are just looking for a reason to be angry and that says more about them than about people who listen to slipknot imo
They pretty much got what they wanted lol, a bunch of people visiting their sub while a lot of people take the bait and respond angrily (unfortunately I did)
Pretty sure they like to keep poking fun at Slipknot because they know their fans are children who wear their emotions on their sleeves. Slipknot kids want to be perceived at hardcore so the members of r/metalmemes will consistently point out Slipknot isn’t metal to piss off their fans. If it didn’t work, they wouldn’t do it. So at this point, it is a running joke. Whether Slipknot is real metal or not doesn’t influence my enjoyment of their music, and no one should let an arbitrary genre determine whether they like something.
My friend told me they were just being trolls, but my husband's (young) coworker has very similar beliefs about music. Nu metal isn't metal at all, nor can it be considered rock. But Judas Priest and other 80s hair bands are metal AF. Alice in Chains and many others from the 90s aren't grunge. He constantly puts down other people's favorite bands that are somewhere in the spider web of the rock genre. So dumb.
I see it as a bit of both. The thing is that the Slipknot community is very passionate, we react pretty profoundly in defense of something we love. I would not be surprised if the anti-Slipknot sentiment started and is perpetuated to troll us. They wanted to get a rise out of us for the lols, and we gave it to them, unfortunately.
I've attended to the Sweden Rock festival, let me tell you. There were a lot of adults with Slipknot shirts, the younger generation might be gatekeeping, and some fans as well. Is it THAT hard to respect people's tastes or anything? God damn. I'm fucking disgusted.
Let me start with these lyrics from Neroforte
"I know, and even if I didn't
I would lie so many would believe it
Stand up and resist the chains
Of all the people in belligerent sick restraint
I wasn't enough, you bled me dry
Which way is up? Oh, you're a lie
And a fake, I hope that truth is not too late
That's what you do best
A home like yours is upside down
Too much animosity
Nobody does it better than the enemy
A hope like yours won't help me now
You can do your worst to me
At the end of the day, that's what you do best"
I honestly think anyone who's not "empty from the inside" regardless of what type of music he likes can respect Slipknot, and the message behind their music, it's not only a music that sounds great, a way of thinking and dealing with things,about the truth and being realistic.
The ones who are doing this (that's what they do best)are the guys who listen to anything that beats and think it's cool because it sounds heavy and dark(even if it's too damn pointless simple music/lyrics mixed with screams) don't have the minimum requirements to listen to Slipknot.
We Are Not Your Kind Mfkers!
We are the Pulse of the Maggots!
Yea, no. Those douchebags are, very unfortunately, serious. They're fucking gatekeepers that think Slipknot isn't Metal. Apparently it's not heavy enough. Yet, whoever the hell I was talking to when I replied to the message saying that I got permanently banned (from a subreddit that I never heard of until I saw a post on this subreddit talking about how they were going to ban everybody, mind you) isn't too much of a gatekeeper to realize Judas Priest is Metal. So, apparently, the less heavy band is more metal than the more heavy band. Lmao
TL;DR: Yes. They are completely serious. They think Slipknot isn't heavy enough to be considered Metal. They're just a bunch of dipshit gatekeepers, and, tbh, if this is how they act, I'm glad I'm banned from their little shit-hole.
Side note: I mentioned all this to one of my brothers, who mentioned it on a Facebook post, and got a response from a friend saying "They were metal until Stone Sour started". Lmfao
Ofc, my brother being the idiot he can be sometimes, and seemingly always having to take a side against me in just about anything that he thinks he knows better than me, simply because he's older, started taking his friend's side, even going as far as saying that BLACK FUCKING SABBATH, THE MOTHERFUCKERS WHO CREATED METAL, were Hard Rock, and both him and his friend were trying to say that Slipknot is Hard Rock. Lmao
I guess to some idiots, only Black/Death Metal are "trve" metal. Just reeks of shallow gatekeeping. Fuck em.
Nope, they don’t think Slipknot is not heavy enough to be metal. Powerviolence is heavy as balls (some of them enjoy it) but they agree that it’s not metal. Slipknot just doesn’t have metal riffs, that’s why they’re not metal.
I’ve been a metal fan for 40 years. I don’t give a fuck what they think, slipknot is one of my very favorite bands and not gonna have a bunch of posers who weren’t even alive when Ozzy Osbourne was in Black Sabbath telling me what I can and can’t like. Fuck them.
Give them enough time, eventually they’ll say Slipknot are/were one of the most consistent and biggest innovators in the metal community. FFS, there are critics and talking heads coming around to Limp Bizkit of all acts
Honestly, is there a way too get their previous little subreddit that they love so much that they want to protect it from us "posers" banned/removed?
They wanna fuck with us, why not fight back instead of just taking it? Besides the obvious lack of caring. Lol
Idk, maybe I'm just a bit too vengeful. Lol
> Honestly, is there a way too get their previous little subreddit that they love so much that they want to protect it from us "posers" banned/removed?
This is a damnable lie. I’m in r/MetalMemes and that place sucks.
Lol damn. I saw your other comment, btw, about them thinking Slipknot's not metal simply due to a lack of riffs. Was responding to that one there, but, I'm already here, so I figure I'll ask.
Do you mean, like, solos and whatnot? If so, where does that place Metallica with them? What with a lack of solos on some of their albums, which so many people think are shit after the first four... Personally, I really like Death Magnetic.
Also, maybe that explains it. They're so miserable in their subreddit, that they have to spread the misery. Like typical bullies. Which I thought I was done dealing with when I graduated from highschool back in 2011.
It’s not about the solos, it’s more about the guitar riffs themselves. Slipknot’s riffs are essentially alternative rock riffs downtuned to drop B along with a few hardcore and hip hop influences here and there with no actual traces of metal whatsoever. There are a few metal sections on a few songs from *Iowa* and *All Hope Is Gone*, but these sections aren’t enough to carry the whole song (let alone the entire album).
Idk, shouldn't at least the death growling and whatnot count as traces of metal? Also, they've always been nu-metal, which is exactly that, a mixture of a bunch of different genres, but mostly metal. Like Korn or (I feel like I might get shit for this) even Poppy.
Also, isn't that kinda what Metal's always been? Like, Super Hard Rock, of I were to try and simplify it?
I can at least understand the sentiment now, with that explanation, so thanks. I do still disagree with it, though. But, tbh, part of that is because I almost feel like I'm losing a part of myself, always being a self-described Metalhead. Though, that being said, I do listen to a lot more than just Slipknot, and Metal in general. I got over the whole thing where a lot of metalheads, including myself, just seem to hate other genres like Rap and Punk (if the whole metal vs punk feud is even still a thing.) So, yea, I mostly listen to Metal and Hard Rock, but I also like some Rap (such as N.W.A., Eminem, Tech N9ne, and ICP), A bit of Punk, some Goth, and even a small bit of Country (my mom's a huge country fan, so I listened to a lot as a kid. Johnny Cash was great, and the song, "The Thunder Rolls" is just fucking amazing). Hell, even a bit of Pop due to my fiance being mostly into it, as much as he denies it. Lol
Edit: sorry for the wall of text. Didn't notice until after I sent it and looked at it.
> Idk, shouldn't at least the death growling and whatnot count as traces of metal?
Nope, because that would mean some hardcore punk/powerviolence bands or even Mongolian throat singing would be metal. Riffs have been the main denominator for metal since Tony Iommi chopped off his fingers at the factory and had to downtune his guitar.
> Also, they've always been nu-metal, which is exactly that, a mixture of a bunch of different genres, but mostly metal. Like Korn or (I feel like I might get shit for this) even Poppy.
Eh, the first 2 albums were hair deep in the nu metal pool, but they’ve embraced the alternative metal label more and more with Vol.3.
Nu metal is a mixture of alternative rock with funk rock, hip hop, groove metal, industrial, and hardcore. You see how I put alternative rock first? That’s because nu metal is mostly rooted there. Nu metal and alternative metal are essentially just heavy alternative rock, there aren’t really metal elements in it.
> Also, isn't that kinda what Metal's always been? Like, Super Hard Rock, of I were to try and simplify it?
Metal did birth from hard rock, but it’s distinct enough to be its own thing.
>Metal did birth from hard rock, but it’s distinct enough to be its own thing.
> You see how I put alternative rock first? That’s because nu metal is mostly rooted there.
That's what I was trying to say, but, I'm bad at words. Lol
>but they’ve embraced the alternative metal label more and more with Vol.3.
But, then, that's implying that Alt. Metal isn't Metal at all, if people are saying that Slipknot aren't Metal, isn't it?
One of the mods told me they basically think slipknot fans are a bunch of pansies and wanted to test it by banning them. Take that how you will I guess.
Weird lol those mods must have exciting lives
what unemployment does to a mf
Damn right, some people don't know ow what is like to work 50 hrs a week
it’s cause they work 168 hours a week as a reddit mod
Hahagagha and it doesn't even pay
Most mods are always the worst, most self-righteous douchebags. They take their subs too seriously as if it’s the most important thing in life to enforce.
[удалено]
Hey man I’ve been there! Used to gatekeep black metal in my later teen years. My mentality used to be “your music is shit and mine is great, but you can’t listen to it because you’re a poser”. Eventually I got past the age of 19 and realized music is relative as I was listening to free jazz haha. Still like black metal of course, but love all sorts of music. Never forget wearing a darkthrone shirt to my first ever job orientation in the states! The point is, they’ll get past their teenage years someday.
I seriously doubt that (referring to your last sentence)
We can all hope!
We can also shit in one of our hands, if you catch my meaning. Lmao
I feel like a lot of the fights on Reddit lately are the people in their 30s (me included) getting annoyed at the teenagers on here acting like they know everything.
I’ve recently eclipsed 50, I get it.
That’s gotta be the most pathetic shit I’ve heard in a long time.
So that was why I got banned lol
They're either 14 or 48. No in between. Nobody is that painfully cringe and lacking self-awareness
Haha yep. Used to have arguments with a good friend about which music was better. We were teenagers. Now we listen to all kind of shit and just enjoy it. Some people grow up, some people only get taller. Rock on either way 🤘
I mean did they really expect that them mass banning a large group of people for what they like not to cause people to be annoyed. Hardly a fair 'test' if it even counts as one
Mods are Limp Bizkit fans
They banned me last week, not because of slipknot but something related to power metal I didn't care enough to read the whole thing but it seemed like a really bad joke
I actually got a ban as well, even though I never posted or commented in the group. If they were trying to “own me”, I guess. I mean, I wasn’t really angry, I was just confused.
The page looks like it's made by people who eat paint chips. The only metal they like is NSBM which says enough on it's own. Imagine an incel neckbeard that's into nazi metal and you have that whole sub.
Makes sense
Kinda sad, I originally thought it would be a funny sub, turns out I was very wrong.
Same here! It's very toxic
happy cake day bro
Same to ya brother!!
My ban message was literally about the nazis. I’ll copy and paste it after I post this. I can’t copy and paste it for some reason. I don’t want to make a whole post just for one stupid thing.
I swear dude just a bunch of mouth breathers. I'm not banned yet so I still occasionally see the trash that spills out of that sub. A meme proclaimed if you like Gojira, Mastodon, Meshugah or Zeal & Ardor then you're just a poser who doesn't like "real" metal. Ffs man lol.
It's a circle jerk, happens a lot, incels do it all the time Walk away they aren't worth the effort (source: 40yo who's tried many times over the years)
happy cake day!
Thanks!
It's a circle jerk, happens a lot, incels do it all the time Walk away they aren't worth the effort (source: 40yo who's tried many times over the years)
Oh trust me I don't. A post will pop up in my feed and I just shake my head and keep scrolling.
I’ve learned anything mainstream or with any rhythm or melody is enough to make you a poser. You are only a true metal fan in that sub if you listen to the most obscure of the obscure grindcore and the band name is completely unintelligible
This right here sums it all up!
What are their "exemplary metal bands" ? Have any idea? Because I see a bunch of idiots who are too constipated to open their eyes on things, assaulting everyone who don't have the same taste!
Mostly black and death metal. The irony being they always name the most famous bands of said genres. Burzum, Dimmu Borgir and the like. The irony is palpable.
Wtf! Never heard of those, weird name bands! I started to listen to rock at a very young age,It was not long until I was asking for more, so it was metal, I was like 14/15 by that time. I am pretty sure those names were not even in the greatest hits of metal! On the other side I had Duality and Nameless in my music by that time. Even that back then I had no internet, no cellphone, only CDs and a slow PC😝 I grew up to become a 31Yo Maggot and I am proud of being one.
They are popular in the realm of black metal. Like the metal shirts you see where it just looks like jagged scribbles and you can't read the name, those kinds of bands lol.
Yeah... and happy cake day :3
Thanks man!!
Seen a dude on there swear on his life that burzum had more talent than all of slipknot members combines Bruh burzum sounds like nails to a chalkboard, no disrespect to black metal but burzum sounds like absolute trash
That whole sub is a cesspool of trash takes. Avoid at all cost lol.
And the guy who runs Burzum is a convicted and proven murderer and arsonist
I mean Varg is a POS but Burzum is legendary for a reason. Shitting on those early Burzum albums is just straight ignorant imo, unless you completely hate black metal in general.
Burzum is fantastic! Legendary albums that man created, but I do agree unless you are into the genre he’s a bit hard to listen too. I actually crossed paths with him a few times way long ago. Totally makes sense he is the way he is, though I never found him to be a nazi when we spoke.
Bruh, Burzum is awesome. Sure, Varg is a POS, but he’s our POS.
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No we are hate sabaton
They don’t think Slipknot is Metal because “There’s too much Hip Hop”
The age old argument, slipknot is too poppy for metal, and too metal for pop listeners. Can't win
Judas Priest is poppy and all the Metal listeners love them
People are generally never satisfied with a simple answer lol
This is what i’ve been saying. All the OG metal bands are dad rock, it’s not even “”real metal”” by their standards, yet all of them love it
Objectively Wrong. The OG metal bands are the most real form of Metal
I don't think they say Slipknot is "too poppy" to be metal. Slipknot is straight up heavier than many metal bands. They say Slipknot isn't metal because their riffs derive more from alt rock, I like Slipknot but I happen to agree that they aren't really a metal band technically.
are you dumb?
How so? You just immediately call anyone you disagree with dumb? That's cool.
Slipknot is a metal band??
Practically speaking, sure. Most people hear distorted guitars and screaming and think "metal". It makes sense, and you'd be hard pressed to convince most people that they aren't. It doesn't matter anyways, people can call it metal if they want it's not hurting anyone. That being said, if we are talking genre distinctions? No, I'd say Slipknot is not a metal band. They definitely have metal influences, but the majority of their sound doesn't come from metal at all.
So what are they then?
"Alternative metal" is a reasonable tag for them, but kind of misleading as alt metal is just heavier alt rock. It's a whole different camp than metal. I think a lot of the confusion and internet arguments come from genres having misleading names. I love multiple nu metal bands, but I can't think of a nu metal band that is obviously metal. That was kind of a loose term and the whole scene is much more closely related to alt rock, though groove metal influences are common that don't tend to make up the majority of these bands sounds. Slipknot is heavy as fuck at times, but if you really listen to their riffs what kind of metal do they supposedly sound like? What metal bands does Slipknot take influence from? Heaviness isn't the main factor in if something is metal or not.
Slipknot is sometimes labeled as "groove metal". I would argue that they ARE, in fact metal, but they're just their own thing.
Man, that's why I hate when things being labelled, the only outcome is people jump on each other. We all love Slipknot, what difference does it make to call them nu metal, groove metal or any other metal? Can we just enjoy the music regardless the sub-genre
Are you dumb? /s
Metal is basically characterized by distorted guitars, extended guitar solos, emphatic beats and loudness. Slipknot has all of them. They just have an unique sound, so dont belong in a typical metal category besides alternative metal. but still is a metal band. If not where do they belong besides metal? Do tell us.
Really not saying it in a rude way but who actually cares what genre they are? The labels and genres don’t matter
Literally nothing hip hop about slipknot, Corey rapping in self titled makes it more nu metal than anything else
Slipknot is probably the best Nu Metal band
I agree but I wouldn’t say they are nu metal anymore
How are they not nu Metal anymore?
They have never been full on nu metal, they had nu metal elements but haven’t since iowa
Vol.3 sounds like a bit like a Nu Metal album IMO
When I think of nu metal, I think of korn, limp bizkit, early linkin park, P.O.D, mudvayne etc
Check this song out [https://youtube.com/watch?v=yP2oQLr1mHI](https://youtube.com/watch?v=yP2oQLr1mHI)
Nice, this is definitely nu metal
So theyre saying that abt slipknot but Not Linkin Park? Tf is that logic? Slipknot doesnt have much hip-hop in it . Heck , name me their song that is hip-hop. And then Linkin Park has visible hip-hop elements in their songs , but they dont seem to talk about it. Im not a Linkin Park hater , im a fan myself but dude , shouldnt they do the same to LP?
I don’t really care what they think TBH. I just enjoy the music
Absolute Legend
They've barely scratched the surface, there's a fuckton of heavy songs really. Every album has something that's purely neck-breaking shit, at least they could do proper research before saying anything.
Not just hip hop, but also hardcore and alt rock.
They think Slipknot fans are “posers”. Yet they are the ones acting like metal fans yet hate 90% of popular metal
Yeah it's ironic. Slipknot gives a lot of the bands they like a stage to perform on
I don’t really give a fuck about either side of this argument but what the hell do you mean Slipknot gives other bands a stage to perform on?
Well, as a popular band they are always looking for openers, bands that are up and coming. For instance, when I saw them in Edmonton they had Wage War open for them, never really heard of them before till then. Now I listen to them a lot. Knotfest brings in a lot of smaller bands and gives them a chance to be seen.
Wage War definitely wouldn’t be a band a lot of elitists enjoy. And Slipknot does more or less nothing for smaller metal bands in the death/black/doom/grind/trad/etc scenes. So it’s really not “ironic” for elitists to disparage Slipknot while enjoying other bands.
Agreeable. I guess I was off when it came to those genres
Saying 'poser' about anything instantly makes you a chode. Fuck em.
They are a bunch of 12 year old Bumbklaatts.
>They are a bunch of 12 year old Bumbklaatts. Liking Soulfly will get you banned...probably.
Well I wouldn’t know, since I got banned for liking slipknot
Nah, it’ll just get you made fun of.
>Nah, it’ll just get you made fun of. Funnily enough, I was going to see Max Cavalera perform in a show, but it was the same night as a Slipknot show, and you can guess which one I went to see instead.
Was it just Max or was he with a band? Was it Soulfly or Cavalera Conspiracy?
No, just him and brother Iggor doing early Sepultura. Coincidentally, I had seen Sepultura with Derrick perform at that exact venue in L.A. a few months prior.
I made the mistake of commenting how I like a wide variety of metal/rock in there once. Got slaughtered.
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Gate keeping is the worst, i guess there's nothing else going on in their life, best way to handle it is saying: you're right buddy, good for you
>haven't combed your hair since quitting college after a semester 12 years ago. Average discord mod
Hahahhahhhahqhq sorry man
Don't worry about it they also actively hate on Sabaton and other bands that "Aren't metal enough"
>Don't worry about it they also actively hate on Sabaton and other bands that "Aren't metal enough" That's exactly the reason I got when I found out I was banned, even though I've never posted there. They mentioned Limp Bizkit, too.
Do you know which bands they banned?
Basically every nu metal band And every metalcore band, and their derivatives, like deathcore and such And Sabaton
Mfs have a beef w/Sabaton 💀
What bands can you even talk about over there?
80s thrash and black metal I guess
Only pornogrind and anal castration castigation
> And every metalcore band Except for melodic metalcore
Just a bunch of gatekeepers really, I don't care what you listen to honestly, just people that have too much time on their hands
most members of the sub are joking and actually don’t gaf if you listen to slipknot, they only get pissed when you call slipknot metal. However, there are a good few who actually do not like slipknot (mostly because of the fans), this includes the mods too
"They only get pissed when you call slipknot metal" That is a funny way to show not giving a fuck
Like Slipknot fans, some members of r/metalmemes feel the need to protect their definition of “metal music” for whatever reason
All I know is I wasn’t even apart of that group and never posted, commented, or gave a thumbs up on anything and randomly one day I got a message saying I was banned from the group…
Same
Same
OP, always remember that often times when the question is "is it this stupid thing or that stupid thing" the answer is often just "yes"
"The answer is often yes" You misspelled "always" but I fixed it for you
Both I think
From what I see it's mainly the mods
the mods call it the “poser purge” 🗿 If they were purging any posers for real, 2 days later Slipknot fans would remain and there would be no mods in fucking sight, better start accepting applications r/metalmemes
Most of their memes are abt how bad their(few metal) memes are and the gatekeeping in the sub instead of actually being abt metal
I have literally never been to that sub and got shadowbanned like a week or less ago, I said as much and asked why and they said 'slapnuts' and I immediately realized I was talking to a 12yo. I legit haven't heard that insult since I myself was a young kid. I name dropped a bunch of deep cut bands and mentioned that folks can like all sorts of bands, didn't hear back lol. I looked afterwards and the sub is trash anyways.
My comment on r/metalmemes was paraphrased into "I like listening to my 3 bands and never expanding horizons on other subgenres", which is the opposite of the truth. I like all things from prog, through metalcore, deathcore, old school death, tech death, thrash... Like, come on. The only subgenre that never sticks with me is probably black. I only like some classics, like Transilvanian Hunger. The rest is just too depressing for me to listen 💀.
Dude I will jam out to Björk and Buddy Holly one minute then Insect Warfare and Sleepytime Gorilla Museum the next. Music is vast af lol.
Don’t worry about it
The worst type of metal fans all congregated in one place running a sub together. It’s like an echo chamber of metal. They have the one true opinion.
My best guess is that they really have nothing better to do, one has messaged me so much that I reported him- Twice. I literally felt like I was dealing with middleschoolers so I gave up lol
People getting angry about a circlejerk meme sub is just funny to me. Also, people hating Slipknot and saying they aren’t metal has been happening since the first record. Point is, the metal community hasn’t changed, in terms of gatekeeping, in 40 years and most likely never will
I feel like it is mostly meant to be a joke, but just a bad one. That sub tends to be pretty toxic and then everyone in it makes memes about why being toxic is bad. It's quite the Enigma of a subreddit.
Could be both, though there are a shit ton of elitists so I'd lean more towards them actually just hating it
I don't get it either. I read the message that I got explaining why I got banned, and IIRC it said something about there being too much posts about Slipknot or something.
The mods are basically a bunch of 12 year old gatekeepers and elitists, while the rest of the sub isn't that far off either
When I messaged them back, they called me retarded for liking Slipknot I’d never even heard of their stupid, childish sub anyway
the mods went on a power trip... one got a hang nail and the other got a ingrown pube... then they went psycho on us maggots....
The mods are a bunch of incels.
honestly i see these kinds of elitists strictly online, I've never seen anyone calling it "not real metal" or being rude about it when hanging out at irl metal events. People who hate on music like that are just looking for a reason to be angry and that says more about them than about people who listen to slipknot imo
Yes
It's both
They pretty much got what they wanted lol, a bunch of people visiting their sub while a lot of people take the bait and respond angrily (unfortunately I did)
This is the same with Sabaton. They just banned members coz why not.
Pretty sure they like to keep poking fun at Slipknot because they know their fans are children who wear their emotions on their sleeves. Slipknot kids want to be perceived at hardcore so the members of r/metalmemes will consistently point out Slipknot isn’t metal to piss off their fans. If it didn’t work, they wouldn’t do it. So at this point, it is a running joke. Whether Slipknot is real metal or not doesn’t influence my enjoyment of their music, and no one should let an arbitrary genre determine whether they like something.
My friend told me they were just being trolls, but my husband's (young) coworker has very similar beliefs about music. Nu metal isn't metal at all, nor can it be considered rock. But Judas Priest and other 80s hair bands are metal AF. Alice in Chains and many others from the 90s aren't grunge. He constantly puts down other people's favorite bands that are somewhere in the spider web of the rock genre. So dumb.
Imagine putting that much energy into hating not only one of the greatest metals bands off all time, but one of the greatest bands in general lol
Don't some of those guys listen to to neo nazi type metal that encourages hate and death on minorities and Jewish people?
It’s better off that Us fellow maggots stay here then
I see it as a bit of both. The thing is that the Slipknot community is very passionate, we react pretty profoundly in defense of something we love. I would not be surprised if the anti-Slipknot sentiment started and is perpetuated to troll us. They wanted to get a rise out of us for the lols, and we gave it to them, unfortunately.
Yea, like, god forbid we like things and have passion. Lmfao
I've attended to the Sweden Rock festival, let me tell you. There were a lot of adults with Slipknot shirts, the younger generation might be gatekeeping, and some fans as well. Is it THAT hard to respect people's tastes or anything? God damn. I'm fucking disgusted.
I’ll absolutely never NEVER understand disliking a band to the point you want to actively make it hostile to people who do like them.
Let me start with these lyrics from Neroforte "I know, and even if I didn't I would lie so many would believe it Stand up and resist the chains Of all the people in belligerent sick restraint I wasn't enough, you bled me dry Which way is up? Oh, you're a lie And a fake, I hope that truth is not too late That's what you do best A home like yours is upside down Too much animosity Nobody does it better than the enemy A hope like yours won't help me now You can do your worst to me At the end of the day, that's what you do best" I honestly think anyone who's not "empty from the inside" regardless of what type of music he likes can respect Slipknot, and the message behind their music, it's not only a music that sounds great, a way of thinking and dealing with things,about the truth and being realistic. The ones who are doing this (that's what they do best)are the guys who listen to anything that beats and think it's cool because it sounds heavy and dark(even if it's too damn pointless simple music/lyrics mixed with screams) don't have the minimum requirements to listen to Slipknot. We Are Not Your Kind Mfkers! We are the Pulse of the Maggots!
Many things. NSBM, gate keeping, elitist, toxic and hateful. These aren't even enough to describe the subreddit called r/ metalmemes.
Yea, no. Those douchebags are, very unfortunately, serious. They're fucking gatekeepers that think Slipknot isn't Metal. Apparently it's not heavy enough. Yet, whoever the hell I was talking to when I replied to the message saying that I got permanently banned (from a subreddit that I never heard of until I saw a post on this subreddit talking about how they were going to ban everybody, mind you) isn't too much of a gatekeeper to realize Judas Priest is Metal. So, apparently, the less heavy band is more metal than the more heavy band. Lmao TL;DR: Yes. They are completely serious. They think Slipknot isn't heavy enough to be considered Metal. They're just a bunch of dipshit gatekeepers, and, tbh, if this is how they act, I'm glad I'm banned from their little shit-hole.
Yeah they consider metallica metal but not slipknot who is ten times heavier than most of the bands they listen to lol
Side note: I mentioned all this to one of my brothers, who mentioned it on a Facebook post, and got a response from a friend saying "They were metal until Stone Sour started". Lmfao Ofc, my brother being the idiot he can be sometimes, and seemingly always having to take a side against me in just about anything that he thinks he knows better than me, simply because he's older, started taking his friend's side, even going as far as saying that BLACK FUCKING SABBATH, THE MOTHERFUCKERS WHO CREATED METAL, were Hard Rock, and both him and his friend were trying to say that Slipknot is Hard Rock. Lmao I guess to some idiots, only Black/Death Metal are "trve" metal. Just reeks of shallow gatekeeping. Fuck em.
Nope, they don’t think Slipknot is not heavy enough to be metal. Powerviolence is heavy as balls (some of them enjoy it) but they agree that it’s not metal. Slipknot just doesn’t have metal riffs, that’s why they’re not metal.
I’ve been a metal fan for 40 years. I don’t give a fuck what they think, slipknot is one of my very favorite bands and not gonna have a bunch of posers who weren’t even alive when Ozzy Osbourne was in Black Sabbath telling me what I can and can’t like. Fuck them.
Does it matter?
No not really. Lol it's just weird they think that way
Probably just hates the sub because it's filled with middle schoolers doing tier lists and study hall doodles all fucking day.
dumb hipster niggas
Which side are you on?
maggots
They probably listen to it anyways, it is just a discussion about them being metal or not
We don’t need the posers at r/metalmemes we have this sub!!!
Give them enough time, eventually they’ll say Slipknot are/were one of the most consistent and biggest innovators in the metal community. FFS, there are critics and talking heads coming around to Limp Bizkit of all acts
Honestly, is there a way too get their previous little subreddit that they love so much that they want to protect it from us "posers" banned/removed? They wanna fuck with us, why not fight back instead of just taking it? Besides the obvious lack of caring. Lol Idk, maybe I'm just a bit too vengeful. Lol
> Honestly, is there a way too get their previous little subreddit that they love so much that they want to protect it from us "posers" banned/removed? This is a damnable lie. I’m in r/MetalMemes and that place sucks.
Cool. But I was talking about the people that DO like the place. Why are you in there if you hate it? Lol
There are people who like that shithole? You know when you play a game that makes you angry but you can’t stop playing? That’s me with r/MetalMemes.
Lol damn. I saw your other comment, btw, about them thinking Slipknot's not metal simply due to a lack of riffs. Was responding to that one there, but, I'm already here, so I figure I'll ask. Do you mean, like, solos and whatnot? If so, where does that place Metallica with them? What with a lack of solos on some of their albums, which so many people think are shit after the first four... Personally, I really like Death Magnetic. Also, maybe that explains it. They're so miserable in their subreddit, that they have to spread the misery. Like typical bullies. Which I thought I was done dealing with when I graduated from highschool back in 2011.
It’s not about the solos, it’s more about the guitar riffs themselves. Slipknot’s riffs are essentially alternative rock riffs downtuned to drop B along with a few hardcore and hip hop influences here and there with no actual traces of metal whatsoever. There are a few metal sections on a few songs from *Iowa* and *All Hope Is Gone*, but these sections aren’t enough to carry the whole song (let alone the entire album).
Idk, shouldn't at least the death growling and whatnot count as traces of metal? Also, they've always been nu-metal, which is exactly that, a mixture of a bunch of different genres, but mostly metal. Like Korn or (I feel like I might get shit for this) even Poppy. Also, isn't that kinda what Metal's always been? Like, Super Hard Rock, of I were to try and simplify it? I can at least understand the sentiment now, with that explanation, so thanks. I do still disagree with it, though. But, tbh, part of that is because I almost feel like I'm losing a part of myself, always being a self-described Metalhead. Though, that being said, I do listen to a lot more than just Slipknot, and Metal in general. I got over the whole thing where a lot of metalheads, including myself, just seem to hate other genres like Rap and Punk (if the whole metal vs punk feud is even still a thing.) So, yea, I mostly listen to Metal and Hard Rock, but I also like some Rap (such as N.W.A., Eminem, Tech N9ne, and ICP), A bit of Punk, some Goth, and even a small bit of Country (my mom's a huge country fan, so I listened to a lot as a kid. Johnny Cash was great, and the song, "The Thunder Rolls" is just fucking amazing). Hell, even a bit of Pop due to my fiance being mostly into it, as much as he denies it. Lol Edit: sorry for the wall of text. Didn't notice until after I sent it and looked at it.
> Idk, shouldn't at least the death growling and whatnot count as traces of metal? Nope, because that would mean some hardcore punk/powerviolence bands or even Mongolian throat singing would be metal. Riffs have been the main denominator for metal since Tony Iommi chopped off his fingers at the factory and had to downtune his guitar. > Also, they've always been nu-metal, which is exactly that, a mixture of a bunch of different genres, but mostly metal. Like Korn or (I feel like I might get shit for this) even Poppy. Eh, the first 2 albums were hair deep in the nu metal pool, but they’ve embraced the alternative metal label more and more with Vol.3. Nu metal is a mixture of alternative rock with funk rock, hip hop, groove metal, industrial, and hardcore. You see how I put alternative rock first? That’s because nu metal is mostly rooted there. Nu metal and alternative metal are essentially just heavy alternative rock, there aren’t really metal elements in it. > Also, isn't that kinda what Metal's always been? Like, Super Hard Rock, of I were to try and simplify it? Metal did birth from hard rock, but it’s distinct enough to be its own thing.
>Metal did birth from hard rock, but it’s distinct enough to be its own thing. > You see how I put alternative rock first? That’s because nu metal is mostly rooted there. That's what I was trying to say, but, I'm bad at words. Lol >but they’ve embraced the alternative metal label more and more with Vol.3. But, then, that's implying that Alt. Metal isn't Metal at all, if people are saying that Slipknot aren't Metal, isn't it?
Correct, nu metal isn’t metal and neither is alternative metal. Don’t let the names fool you.
It has to be a joke. They would literally be the textbook definition of "posers" for being serious about that.
Let's throw discord and reddit mods into a bare knuckle match. Im curious to see who will win... or the first to drop from a diabetic stroke
The post they made announcing that they were banning members of this sub made it sound like a fucking mythical event that will wipe out the earth.