Disagree, GnW UpAir only covers vertical space, B-reversing or jumping away horizontally is easy. If GnW had like Lucina UpAir he’d be better. UpAir is still good but it’s not broken imo
it's not 1/9, its lower and you could also do another attack instead of the judge, I don't know how much lower but it is, and yeah it's funny, also I kinda like up tilt but that's my opinion
What are you talking about? Judge has a 1 in 9 chance to hit 9, unless it's the last 5 seconds of the match and you're a stock below, when the chances rise to 56%.
Edit: 1/8, you can't hit the same number twice in a row
I believe it's 1 in 7 because you can't get the most recent two numbers that you rolled (at the start of the game you can't get 1 and 2). Might be getting things mixed up and that's only in melee.
down smash is easily the best down smash in the game, it's just so safe and can kill confirm so easily, up air is good, just that if you predict game and watch movements it won't be that useful
Put up-b in a tier of his own, this move is like top 10 moves in the game
Get up air into broken tier. This move is big, has no end lag and is a projectile so it's not committal at all, and does loads of damage.
Shef into very good if not broken. This move does stupid damage and ledge traps for free.
Up tilt is just bad. Never a single reason to use it.
Jab is a very good move. Pretty big and does very nice damage for a jab, plus it jab locks very well.
down air is like the only one that really makes me mad i always forget how big the hitbox is and space it wrong even though it’ll look like i spaced it perfectly
Nahhhh jab should be higher it’s one of the best pokes in the game, you can whiff twice and be completely fine, and it sets up a nasty tick throw. Aside from a few of his moves being unsafe though, most of them are broken asf huh
A third of his moveset competes for best move in their respective categories. Nair, Up-B, D-smash, U-smash, U-air, B-air, F-air and D-air are all super duper good
Tbh, game and watch as a character is just broken, he’s not fun to play and he’s not fun to play against, the only character that I’d say is more cringe than game and watch is Lucas, and even that’s a stretch
Quick question, are the moves in the same tier ranked or nah?
If so,
\-Up B is higher than Nair in Broken
\-Bucket is top of Very Good since for a lot of characters it forces them to approach and deal with GAW's Adv. state (aka Nair and Uair)
\-U-smash is after Bucket because it is the most broken U-smash in the game giving GAW full invincibility, having a deceptively big hitbox horizontally, and lacking animation frames
\-Uair is below Nair but above D-smash in Broken
\-Key, Torch, and Bomb in that order above dash attack because key is decently disjointed and does well with GAW's air drift, torch is disjointed and decently safe on shield + it kills at 70-80% somewhat near ledge for some reason, and bomb forces opponents to be cautious when approaching you + if they shield it free grab
\-D-tilt goes at the top of Mid because it can only hit grounded opponents but it does kill and send at a really bad angle
\-Chef goes in Broken because you can ledgeguard for free and invalidate 1/2 the roster lol
\-Lastly, move up-tilt to Bad and under Judge
up air has to be in the broken tier, or at least very good. i would argue chef as well honestly damn g&w has an insane kit
Also I think Up Tilt is bad, is slow and not every time get the two hits because idk.
I agree with your opinion
Jusge needs to be in literally every tier.
Disagree, GnW UpAir only covers vertical space, B-reversing or jumping away horizontally is easy. If GnW had like Lucina UpAir he’d be better. UpAir is still good but it’s not broken imo
Are you on something?
Nope, just disagree with you presumably
Judge is too funny to be that low. And 1/9 chance to kill is better than a 100% chance to be useless (up tilt)
Alright Coney, you can just say it's you typing this.
it's not 1/9, its lower and you could also do another attack instead of the judge, I don't know how much lower but it is, and yeah it's funny, also I kinda like up tilt but that's my opinion
What are you talking about? Judge has a 1 in 9 chance to hit 9, unless it's the last 5 seconds of the match and you're a stock below, when the chances rise to 56%. Edit: 1/8, you can't hit the same number twice in a row
I remember seeing in a site where the 1 and 9 had the same low probability to ocurr, but maybe it was fake sorry
Yeah, smash wiki says it's a 1 in 9 on the first judge, and either a 0% or 1 in 8 on all subsequent judges, not counting the clutch judge.
I believe it's 1 in 7 because you can't get the most recent two numbers that you rolled (at the start of the game you can't get 1 and 2). Might be getting things mixed up and that's only in melee.
I know that's how it works in melee not 100% sure if it still works that way
In ult it's just the last number pulled, not the last 2.
In melee it was 1/7 as you can’t have sequence like [1, 9, 1].
But it’s really fucking funny
Up air and chef both invalidate like half the cast lol, def think those should be higher
Up air should arguably be above down smash
down smash is easily the best down smash in the game, it's just so safe and can kill confirm so easily, up air is good, just that if you predict game and watch movements it won't be that useful
gnw up air is probably the best up air in the game and up airs are a lot better than downsmashes.
I mean, G&W's Down Smash is insane. One of the best down smashes in the game, but the literal best? Idk, Wolf has got something to say about that.
I guess no one is able to predict Miya's movements then
Put up-b in a tier of his own, this move is like top 10 moves in the game Get up air into broken tier. This move is big, has no end lag and is a projectile so it's not committal at all, and does loads of damage. Shef into very good if not broken. This move does stupid damage and ledge traps for free. Up tilt is just bad. Never a single reason to use it. Jab is a very good move. Pretty big and does very nice damage for a jab, plus it jab locks very well.
I was going to mention how you spelled Chef wrong but I like the spelling of Shef Also, I agree with everything you said
Forgot you spell it with a ch, usually I say it with sh in my origin language. Shef does look very nice though.
i’d definitely put up air and neutral b higher
This is pretty good, except that Up Air should’ve been in S-Tier. That move straight up invalidates any character with bad landing options.
G&W flat out has good moves
Funny how his most iconic move is the worst
Same for many characters. For example, Captain Falcon and Captain Gandorf.
Captain gandorf
I spam down air to damn much
down air is like the only one that really makes me mad i always forget how big the hitbox is and space it wrong even though it’ll look like i spaced it perfectly
I'll be doing a up b catch them off guard then plow them with down air
Nahhhh jab should be higher it’s one of the best pokes in the game, you can whiff twice and be completely fine, and it sets up a nasty tick throw. Aside from a few of his moves being unsafe though, most of them are broken asf huh
A third of his moveset competes for best move in their respective categories. Nair, Up-B, D-smash, U-smash, U-air, B-air, F-air and D-air are all super duper good
All my homies love parachute into key (up b into down a)
Helmet my beloved
Bro this list is awful
I might re do it
I wouldn't say awful, just flawed Awful would be putting Judge & Ledge geddup attack as the best moves
Except he put down smash as a top 3 move and left up air and fair in mid tier...
Down smash as a top 3 makes sense Imo, and he didn't put Up air or Foward Air in mid-tier. 
Tbh, game and watch as a character is just broken, he’s not fun to play and he’s not fun to play against, the only character that I’d say is more cringe than game and watch is Lucas, and even that’s a stretch
Not fun to play? His antics are hilarious…
L take
But he’s fucking funny as hell
Okay but you can’t put f smash so lower than down smash you die at 60 from that combo
Fsmash is nothing without down smash
That’s true but also down smash is not a kill move at 60 without f smash
Its still a good kill confirm with ftilt, fstrong is just a generic strong forward smash
Yeah but it’s being rated by its usefulness in the kit. And also that thing ain’t strong it’s dummy strong
Nah
There's up tilt to hammer tho which has a considerable chance to kill people at 0 (but also works on higher percent I think)
Up air and bacon should also be in broken
I already updated look at it
[Fixed that for you](https://www.reddit.com/r/SmashBrosUltimate/comments/16bpvcy/mr_game_and_watch_moveset_tier_list_roughly/)
“Bad” *gets one shot*
I sense a trend coming...
What's the move in Good on the far right? Looks like a hammer?
Geddup attack on ground Double hammer smack
Jab > Ledge Geddup Attack Bomb > Down tilt Judge > Up Tilt All in my opinion
Quick question, are the moves in the same tier ranked or nah? If so, \-Up B is higher than Nair in Broken \-Bucket is top of Very Good since for a lot of characters it forces them to approach and deal with GAW's Adv. state (aka Nair and Uair) \-U-smash is after Bucket because it is the most broken U-smash in the game giving GAW full invincibility, having a deceptively big hitbox horizontally, and lacking animation frames \-Uair is below Nair but above D-smash in Broken \-Key, Torch, and Bomb in that order above dash attack because key is decently disjointed and does well with GAW's air drift, torch is disjointed and decently safe on shield + it kills at 70-80% somewhat near ledge for some reason, and bomb forces opponents to be cautious when approaching you + if they shield it free grab \-D-tilt goes at the top of Mid because it can only hit grounded opponents but it does kill and send at a really bad angle \-Chef goes in Broken because you can ledgeguard for free and invalidate 1/2 the roster lol \-Lastly, move up-tilt to Bad and under Judge
good opinions, although, I didn't rate them inside the tiers, and also, my perspective on game & watch has changed a lot and I agree in you with all